Book CommuniTEA Tuesday: Publishing is still a mess, trigger warnings, sub boxes..& skincare? [CC]

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okay sorry Hey, hi,hello . Welcome or welcome back to my channel . My name is Jess and this is Nigel and I know this   is a really weird setup, thank you thank you. This  video is going to be really weird. So when I filmed   this yesterday there was nothing that had popped off bookish wise besides some book reviewers/bookstagrammers   showing their ass and and showing they're  trump supporters but I wasn't going to spend my   time on that. Then I filmed my video and it was  really just like a skincare and discussion video   and then last night some people sent me this  thread of tweets about something that happened   with an author, I was like well damn i've gotta  include that so there's gonna be some different,   you're gonna see here, you're seeing my bathroom and you're gonna see in my book room so it's gonna   be kind of patched together. No Nigel, don't eat  my chair. So i'm just gonna edit this in wherever   it fits. So I hope you still enjoy uh this week's  episode of book commuiTEA. I love my dog but he's   chaotic so Ihad to put him to the side . So i'm  just i'm using my laptop for the tweets so I   don't get it wrong here. Okay so the tweets that  were sent to me were about an author named Joan   He who's the author of Descendant of the Crane.  So Descendant of the Crane is a Y.A. fantasy that   was released under Albert Whitman and Company last year, so April 9, 2019. So the author stated "As of   writing this, I am one step away from filing suit  against the publisher for copyright infringement."  So they said "Back in May they failed to pay me  my royalties on time. My agent followed up with   them repeatedly, we gave them the benefit  of the doubt due to Covid, we allowed them   all the time that they were contractually  owed and then some to rectify this breach.   So in August when the publisher remained  in breach, we notified them that the rights   to publish the book had reverted back to me  per clause in my contract but this means the   publisher legally can no longer sell the books. Not the ebooks, not the hardbacks. Anything already in   print has to be withdrawn from shelves. Anything not yet published, this included the paperback   paperback edition, can't be published without  violating my copyright. For the reader   and me this essentially means the book goes out of print. Yeah it sucks big time but the only thing   worse than books going out of print is not knowing if and when you'll be paid by your publisher."   So I didn't know in 2020, I can't believe that this  is happening that an author had to take to Twitter   because their publisher isn't paying them. So  they also said "As a last resort, I hired a lawyer.   We sent the publisher a cease and desist on  September 24th and gave them 30 days to comply.   They have not complied. Which brings me to this, should this go to court, I am almost certain to win.   The case is clear but i'm not vindictive. I don't  want to drag the publisher through this or myself.   Emotionally, mentally and financially the  last six months have been hard enough."   So they tagged "Albert Whitman if you  see this please comply with a cease and desist.   Please acknowledge the reversal of rights, withdraw the copies on shelves and warehouses and stop   printing, distributing and selling the book. Please give me the time of day and do the right thing." How how is this happening in 2020? That you have to take to Twitter to try and have like a civil   conversation with your own publisher about the  rights to your book? This is outrageous, I cannot   believe that. They did add in "Final notes on how to help." Um they said "All of the above is vetted by my   legal counsel so feel free to share and spread the word it would help greatly. In terms of what will   be happening with Descendant of the Crane, my agent and I are working hard to re-home it. If you really   need a copy, I recommend going for my UK publisher." And there's a link and i'll have this tweet thread   linked in the description. So they said "In the  meantime i'm really grateful to be with Macmillan now."   So that's great, "pre-ordering my book with them  would truly be the best show of support especially   when nothing with Descendent of the Crane's future is certain." So there's a different book linked and   it says The Ones We Were Meant To Find um uh oh a sci-fi fantasy and that's under Macmillan so they   have that linked. "Thank you for reading this so  far, we'll keep you posted on how everything goes."   Um "And just to clarify something, after we notified Albert Whitman that the rights had reverted back   to me, they immediately paid the outstanding  royalties and they keep on citing this as the   reason why they can't agree to release my rights. Sorry but that's not how contracts work." so at   least they paid the outstanding royalties, so that  is- oh my gosh, i'd be so pissed and I understand   not wanting to go to court or be vindictive but at  this point I would, i'd take their asses to court   but I know that costs money. Um someone so Wesley  Chu replied "hi sorry to see you're going through   this. I'm just curious is the publisher delinquent  on all royalties are they just paying late?" And   Joan said "they were late and stopped replying to emails asking them where the royalties were.   We invoked a clause in the contract that  explicitly says the rights revert back to   me if they don't pay within a certain number  of days and they immediately paid but too late."   That is outrageous um so someone said  "please don't feel 'vindictive' if you go to   court because you're absolutely in the right  and it may be the only way they'll listen."   That's what I feel but Joan said "Litigation would  take a year and be a lot of money." So even if she   you know they were feeling vindictive that's  going to cost a lot of money which is so royally   fucked, god that is fucked. Um someone did suggest "if you haven't already, have your lawyer reach out   directly to Amazon with proof that the copyright  for your book lies with you and not the publisher,   just bypass them completely in that case." And  they said "i'll let my lawyer know." So I don't   know if um if you let Amazon know directly, would they have to pull the books like from their   website? That's what what I'm guessing. So I wonder if a book was sold now, would that money just go   to Albert Whitman and Joan wouldn't see any of  it? Because oh that is so, that is so rude. So i'm   going to have this linked down in the description  and a link directly to the new book with Macmillan:   um The Ones We're Meant To Find, I think that might not be out until next year if i'm correct this says   May 4, 2021 but you can definitely pre-order  that i'm sure that would definitely help them   since if this looks like this could be a long  journey, if, you know Albert Whitman doesn't comply   they might have to go to court. Wow it's just awful and of course there's just a lot of support from   authors and readers um and tagging Albert Whitman, so obviously all we can do is if you want the book   uh pre-order Descendant of the Crane or  you can order a Descendent of the Crane from   the UK. We can pre-order the new book: The Ones We're Meant to Find, that's with Macmillan   and share and tag Albert Whitman and call their  asses out. This is ridiculous how fucking shady. Ugh,   what is up with publishing this year? Publishing  seems to be losing their fucking minds, it's just   shady shit left and right and i'm  not here for it, it's fucking garbage and   oh that's awful. So please share this um you know tweet about it, tweet Albert Whitman and hopefully   hopefully the attention will make them um boss up and handle their shit how they're supposed to,   so that hopefully Joan doesn't have to take this  to court because how fucking shitty but if you know   anything more about publishing or anything more on the situation, definitely leave it in the comments,   I would appreciate it. And now a random transition to my bathroom for my skincare routine. My face   does look really ashy because I had this thick  sunscreen on uh before I took a shower so don't   mind that okay? Thank you, bye. Hey yeah this is a really weird video angle, you're in my bathroom but I said this is on instagram the other day. I had like two  people ask for my skincare routine. So I was like   "i'm basically an influencer" and i've  got to give the people what they want.   You know people are always like 'so many people have been asking' literally it was two   and I already wanted to do this video, so that was motivation enough. So i'm going to go through my   daytime skincare routine but I also wanted to  talk about a couple things that came up in my last   video of the unpopular opinions um just a little  further discussion. o before I start, I do want to   say i'm obviously not a dermatologist, i'm not an  esthetician, i'm not a skin care guru, this is just   from years of sampling and trying things out  because that's kind of what you have to do   with skin care, sadly. You kind of have to try and  see what works for you and what doesn't um and   my recommendation would be don't try a bunch of whole new products at once because you won't be   able to tell what and what doesn't work. So maybe introduce one new product at a time so you can see   you know if that causes you any irritation  or if it doesn't give you any improvement   but other than that, again i'm not professional  this is just what I have found works for me and   I apologize if this um this setup isn't the best. I am using my front facing camera just so I can see   but i'm not going to stay in here  the whole time. I'm just going to   do this and then i'm going to go in front  of my shelves to finish the discussion. So,   yes here we go um. On a normal morning, if I were just to get up and go to the gym or I go into the grocery store, i'm not going to wash  my face because I put a bunch of stuff on at night.  So I would normally just do micellar water. I just  have the Simple one just like on a cotton pad,   wipe off my face and then do a little bit of  moisturizer and sunscreen, that's what all I would   do because i'm not going to wash my face, go to the gym, wash my face again. I only wash twice a day so   today though, I already went on a walk with Nigel, it was long and sweaty. I just took a shower and so   i'm actually going to wash my face but I just  want to let you know about that a quick option.   But so i'm going to start with a wash.  I used to wash my face in the shower,   I have learned over the last year that you  shouldn't use super hot water on your face   because I shower in molten lava so I don't wash  my face in the shower anymore um and I just do   lukewarm water even, though it pains me. So i'm  gonna wet my face really quick and be right back.   So, I my face is wet and i'm using this CeraVe  renewing cleanser and it uses a salicylic acid.   So I just use a little bit of this and then I rub  it in for 60 seconds and let me see the time okay.   So on my video in the comments one of  the biggest uh replies or the most okay,   one thing that people replied the most about was about the trigger warnings. So one of the unpopular   opinions was that they don't want trigger warnings on books and most people in the comments disagreed   as did I, um saying that I would have no issue  with trigger warnings. I personally don't need   them but if someone else does, I don't mind and  I have seen a couple of books have it like in the   beginning, you know the beginning pages where  there's like the dedication. But in the comments   some great discussion came up about like how we go about it. Who, who would get trigger warnings? Like   it needs to be like uniform and not just you know  picking and choosing or or calling out certain   authors and I thought that was an excellent  question because there's really not some like   huge governing body over like publishing to my  knowledge um. Oh I think that was a minute, wow when   you're talking that goes a lot faster. All right  i'm gonna pause and i'm gonna rinse this off. Now I know in the commercials people are splashing water but I get water everywhere, so I use a microfiber   cloth to rinse off my face, you know whatever.  It's probably not right but that's what I do. I think the cloth is also helpful around edges. I know some people don't want to like mess up their   hair or mess with their edges, I don't care . So I especially like to get in there um and   depending on the sunscreen I wear, sometimes it like gets caught   in my hairline and I get a lot of little  pimples up there, so don't forget your hairline. So I didn't dry my whole face, it's still pretty damp. I was not crying, I was putting eye drops because my   eyes are the most sensitive things on the planet, it's so irritating. So after I cleanse in the morning   then i'm going to tone. So I used to use a witch  hazel for a toner and I also learned um that that   is very drying or any alcohol-based toner. So now, I use a hydrating toner. This one is from Paula's   Choice and it is the Enriched Calming Toner. Wow, I'm sorry, my timer went off because I had my   RedBull in the freezer um I have like  a certain time, i've timed it perfectly,   where i put it in the freezer  and it becomes like slushy. 37 minutes oh my god. So good, this little Brumate thing that's  like a skinny can koozie um okay sorry.   Anyway, I was saying I have combination skin. I  just came up the stairs, I'm sorry, I can't catch   my breath. So my t-zone is very oily, and the rest of my face it's very dry. So I do use the dry, very dry   um from Paula's Choice. There are so many options. I love this brand, it is a little more pricey but   the great thing is you can get so many things in a sample or travel size, like you could get a little   size like this um a little sample of a mask even  just like little packets like this. So it's a great   way to try out products and not spend a whole  bunch of money because that's my thing is like,   something costs $20-30 to me that's a lot of money and I would like to try it first to see if it   works. So anyway, after I wash, I tone. So I just pat it in like this my face and I always include my   neck. I wash my neck, every all the steps that I do on my face, I do on my neck because you know   people out here getting face lifts and botox all  this stuff on their face and their neck is really   really giving away their secrets. But then in the  daytime, I use this hyaluronic acid wait sorry i'm   no beauty guru what do they do like this? No this, hyaluronic acid serum just more hydration. know   I should probably be using the Vitamin C as well  but i'm not and I think a common misconception   can be if you have oily skin or parts of your  skin are oily, to not use hydrating uh products   and that is very false because you still need  to hydrate. So I still use, I don't use like this only on the dry parts of my face, I do  it all. So I use this one um day and night but okay and then I tone again, just lock it in  that hydration. Yes i'm gonna be careful because   obviously you're supposed to keep everything  away from your eyes but i'm just really clumsy   and I feel like even if anything gets like in the  perimeter my eyes like to act up so there's that and then after toning I just use this  Daily Moisturizing Lotion from CeraVe.   Right now because it's not too cold my face  isn't too dry, I do have the moisturizing cream   that is heavier so when it gets colder i'll  switch to that but for now this one works for me.   And like I said face and neck probably, could even do more down here do you call it your décolletage, decolletage or décolletage, I don't know. It's something French and fancy but um yeah there's that and lastly in the daytime: sunscreen. Yes even  us Black and brown people need sunscreen. um I think you need, they recommend at  least 35, 30 and it has been proven that   if you're not putting on the accurate  amount, that you're decreasing   the SPF. So like if I only put on half the  amount I should, i'm really only getting 25.   This is my favorite that I have found. Ialso  like I love Neutrogena's Hydroboost line and I   also like this, I just haven't been able to find it  here higher than 30 but it's very light, it's more   of a gel consistency. Even my husband who hates sunscreen um says this one he can't really feel   it when he puts it on and then I also was trying  to get a higher SPF and I thought this one was   the same and this one's 70. So this is  protect and hydrate sunscreen and this one is   the same but it says lotion, so this one is way  thicker and it leaves a cast on my face like I   try to wipe it in but it's it still leaves a cast  So, I really only use this one if i'm at home   and i'm not going to like be filming or anything  because it's a definite, you can definitely tell   especially like around my hairline but you should  wear sunscreen. The rule is two fingers worth,   so I do like, i don't do my whole finger, I do like  this much, two fingers worth and that's supposed   to be your face and neck but and you're supposed to reapply every two hours, even if you're indoors.   Unless it's night time or like you got black out  blind and no light is getting in. I know people   hate that, I hated it too but I am now doing it. So  this one for me first goes on a little white but   with a little blending in- and my eyes have been  like extra sensitive to this sunscreen lately   so i've got to be careful to not get  it really close to my eye but- yeah rub it in, get those ears, but yeah this well  obviously sunscreen protection from the sun   and especially if you are Black or brown and  you have hyper pigmentation um not wearing   sunscreen is just gonna make that worse. So you can be doing all these treatments, all this   exfoliating and mask but if you're not wearing  sunscreen, you're not helping yourself, you're   just like doing all that extra work for nothing.  So wear it, hey the great thing now is this winter   so you don't have to reapply it as much because  here it starts getting dark at 4:45, so i'm like   don't have to reapply but yeah this  one blends in really good for me.   um really unless you're white, it's sometimes  going to be a a trial and error trying to   find the right sunscreen that works for you um I  know there are some other ones that are supposed   to be really good but they're expensive  and I think this is like $8 for   three ounces. So there are brands like Super Goop , Glossier um other brands that have ones that are   supposed to be really good and translucent, that  blend in well especially with brown and black skin   but they are this size or smaller and they're  like $20, $30, $40- no. With the amount that you should   be wearing of sunscreen, I just can't afford that.  So I am good with the Aveeno or the Neutrogena,   which is $10 for that bottle and that's  it . I'm gonna keep pushing but yeah that's it.   So that's it in the morning and then I always  put on chapstick but if i'm upstairs and it's not   right here, I just use a CeraVe healing ointment  that I use at night on my face, I just put a   little bit on my lips because it's predominantly  petroleum jelly, so that vaseline, that's it. So i'm   gonna move into my book room so we can continue this discussion because I kind of got off track. Hopefully you can see me okay. So we were talking about trigger warnings. So I think the question is   how would it be done uniformly? Because when Ninth  House came out, I remember a lot of people um were   talking about this book needing trigger warnings  because of the content and people brought up the   great point of authors like Stephen King or just  in general men have books like this all the time   and no one's ever asking them to put a trigger  warning on their books. So it just definitely   would need to be fair and I don't know who would control that and like would one publisher do it   and another wouldn't? So there's a lot of questions and then another great comment was who determines   what is a trigger and what isn't? To me, when I  just think of trigger warnings: I think of sexual   assault, um obviously rape, self-harm, suicide, harm of a child but there are so many more that trigger   other people um just even talk of depression or a mental illness, divorce, loss of a parent, there's so   many things that could trigger people. So I don't  know how you would determine what's a trigger   and determine what you think you need to make  readers aware of. Like I think someone suggested   something general like "the content in this book  might trigger people" but I guess that's too   general. Then if there's some things that trigger  you and some that don't, I don't know, it's   it brought up a lot of great questions and  i'm glad that people were discussing it with   me because there was a lot of stuff I didn't  think about. Also where would it go? This is kind   of a smaller issue but I wouldn't want like on the  front of the book like trigger warning. I think um   inside like where I saw one for was it get a Take  A Hint, Dani Brown, I think had it like you know   you open the pages there's a title, the publication stuff, dedication and I think on a page like that   if it said trigger warnings for you know anxiety  or whatever. So I think something like that but   yeah it's it's a unique question. I don't know,  who do you bring it up to even if it's something   that people really wanted to get started? Like  you just email all the publishers? You like cc   all the publishers to tell them like we want  trigger warnings? So I just wanted to expand on   that because I thought it was interesting and  people brought out some great some great topics   um because say it was a book a publishing wide  thing, maybe Macmillan only considered suicide,   sexual assault, self-harm as triggers and then  maybe another publishing group maybe Bloomsbury   includes more? So I think it's definitely difficult.  I know there is a website, i'll have to find it. I   feel like someone started a website where they  are updating trigger warnings for books and   I don't know how many they have on there i'll  have to find that and let you know. So I don't,   I don't know. I try when i'm talking about  talking about a book to remind myself to give   people triggers um i'm reviewing it, it's just  harder because I don't necessarily, those things   don't trigger me, so it's not my first thing to  say trigger warning for or content warning for.   So it's hard it's definitely not as easy  as yes put trigger warnings on books and   and have it done, there's just a lot to discuss so  there would be a lot of moving parts and I don't   know how it would be like regulated but I thought that was interesting to talk about. Something else   I wanted to talk about really quick was book boxes and i'll tell you why Illumicrate's on my shitlist   but so someone in the comments brought  up the great point that book boxes   are really wasteful essentially because like I said so many of them end up on those like buy   sell trade pages on facebook, like entire boxes not even like oh I just have this bookmark, does anyone   want it? It's like the entire box and they come  out not all of them but a lot of them come out   monthly. So that's 12 months a year for I don't  know they've at least been out since 2016, 2017   that's at least 36 boxes right there for someone  for like one person if they've had a subscription   this whole time obviously the math isn't exact but that's a lot of boxes and then there's also other   ones, other companies they do like a quarterly  box or then there's a regular box and a special   edition box, so it just is a lot that they're  producing and myself I just wonder how long   the books the sub box trend will last. I  obviously, I subscribe to a bark box for my dog   and even that we're not gonna do we, I think we  did like a one year subscription even that we're   not gonna do beyond that I don't think because  it's just repetitive but I wonder how long book   boxes will be successful because obviously books are going to keep coming out and I will say they   are helpful to maybe lesser-known authors um debut authors to promote their book and get it out there   to a wider audience. So I understand that and  that's very important but I just wonder how long   I don't know how long it'll be popular?  Because a lot of those items, I mean   not always but a lot of them aren't well made  they're just like mass produced things like   from China or something with like a print on it  or a quote. There are rarely boxes that come out   i'm like wow those are really high quality items  that i'll keep for a long time. Like the couple   boxes that I did get throw blankets love because  I love throw blankets, i'm gonna use them forever.  Maybe if it was like a hoodie um obviously  candles have their value to a certain extent   to use them or for decoration but just the things  like pencils and how many bookmarks does one need?   Even prints because like how many prints do you need? I do love enamel pins, I will say that but   like buttons, stickers just like paper products  that are really wasteful that people get rid of.   I don't know, I just don't know how long how long  they're going it's going to be a successful thing,   that there's so many boxes and obviously there  have been some that have had kind of a downfall   um and gone rogue, really screwed people out  of their money.. was it Whimsify whimsical   Whimsify box that just stopped talking  to people, didn't ship out their boxes   didn't do refunds and she just been a ghost in the wind for like the last two years? so I don't know,   hopefully you know other ones don't end like  that but i'm just wondering uh but for now   they seem to be thriving. people love them I guess . um to illumicrate, so this video won't be too long.  Last year and probably before this Jay Kristoff  kept hinting on Twitter that he was talking with   his publisher voyager Harper Voyager about  getting the first two Nevernight books   Nevernight and Godsgrave reprinted, the  UK edition hardcovers because they were   out of print and people who did have them were  selling them for like a $1,000 on Ebay   and so he kept mentioning it, people were kept  asking and I was like okay okay this is awesome   they're gonna do a reprint, there's obviously a  need like a desire for them. So it came out last fall, I can't remember if it was October or November that Illumicrate was going to get the deal with Harper Voyager and they were  going to get to reprint the first two books and   they were going to be the UK hardcover with the  sprayed edges which I have wanted so much because   I only have the US hardcover and I did get the  UK hardcover of the final book but i wanted   the first two to match. was gonna be really  excited . So my husband kindly bought them for me   and then it was like you got them in, you  pre-ordered them in the fall and they   weren't set to ship to like arch of 2020. So I started seeing people I think in March get their   books and this was obviously right at the height  of the coronavirus starting to, the uptick. So our   mail here slowed down significantly in the first  couple of months um it went from being about 7   to 14 days for things to arrive to honestly  to one to two months things were taking. So   I wasn't expecting to get mine right off the bat,  I was like maybe i'll get it in May so i'm still   waiting, still waiting and I was like okay now it's  been kind of a long time. I was like can you check   your email he didn't have anything, I didn't have  anything and so I finally sent Illumicrate like I digged out the receipt and the confirmation  number and sent Illumicrate and emailed them   I said I just wanted to check the status of my  Nevernight books. I haven't received an email that   they shipped and haven't received them. So then  got an email back that said there was an issue   with the shipping company, they were supposed  to flag armed forces address as they won't   ship. They've been really overstretched during the pandemic so i'm speaking with them and we'll get   back to you when I hear back and so we're like  okay no worries we can give you a US address   to send them to, just like a regular US address  without the problem because i'm stationed in   Sicily as most of you know but we have an American address. When you're a military person overseas   your address for like your town usually says APO or FPO that means it's an American like federal   post office box for basically. So for something  that I ordered from the UK it would literally ship   from the UK to the United States from the United  States to me here in Italy. So it is a US shipping   address, it's the same shipping rate like if  someone mails me something from the states   it costs the same um based on my zip code which I think registers as like new york or something   So it's a united states shipping address but  it just is a military an armed forces address   so we're like no problem obviously we have family, like I wanted these books we already paid for them   so we can give you an address to ship them  to in the states and we just have them   ship it to us. So thought that was gonna solve the problem and we didn't hear anything back and my   husband was like I got a refund for the books from Illumicrate so I emailed them and i said um   I just saw that you refunded me for the books, was there an email where you relayed the information   you received from your shipping company? um these gifts were, these books were purchased as a gift   and uh we have another address that's not an  armed forces one that you can ship to. D?o you   still have them in stock? Like let us know, we've  been waiting for a long time and then they email   back I was just about to email you- were you?- we had to refund these books as we no longer have   them in stock and the shipping company lost the original order I'm afraid. I'm so sorry about this. I got, I will not say I went full Karen because  I was very respectful and I did not ask to speak   to a manager because at that point there was no  no purpose but my issue is that I pre-ordered   these in October or November, when I went to the website and if you have ever shipped to an APO or FPO address you know this when you go to plug things in, if they don't ship they will tell you   It'll like it either doesn't come up as an option  on the drop down menu because when you go choose   state it won't be there, so you're like they don't  ship to FPO addresses or sometimes it even pops   up and then you try to check out and it's like  won't ship. So I have that has happened to me   multiple times with target with so many brands  that will not ship here. So I put in my address,   it was available and it worked and so months  this was June now, so since October/ November   whenever this was there was no one checking all of that before they even started a ship in March?  Before the pandemic even started so like that  to me was bullshit and so had I not said anything,   would they have refunded us or given us our money back since the shipping company lost the order? And we hadn't heard anything from them  in those months since I placed the order.   They would have just kept my  money. What if I didn't keep my um   proof of purchase and I didn't have my  confirmation number? They would have kept my money   and so I sent them an email explaining all this  stuff because i was fucking pissed, I wanted these   books, we paid for them and I had to be the one  to come to you to ask what was going on and they   said we're sorry with this order. We do state in  our frequently asked questions we cannot deliver   to APO, FPO addresses. The list of states in our  check area checkout area is a default list, I don't   think we can remove, it we'll ask our developer  to take another look. Yeah you should because   you can fucking remove it and so that to me is bullshit, I'm sorry. Our shipping company usually flags   any addresses that cannot be shipped to so we  contact the customers for alternative addresses   unfortunately like most businesses, the pandemic has them severely stretched lately. I'm sorry no.   Fuck that bullshit because they got the order  way before the pandemic even fucking started   and the gap between the refund and us notifying  you was due to the fact that the   refund had to be done with paypal which meant our boss had to do it so there was a disconnect there   that there usually isn't, please understand  it was never our intention to keep money   for books that had not been received. We were  we weren't aware there was an issue until   your husband got in touch and we did everything  we could to resolve it before we refunded him.   Unfortunately the current pandemic is throwing  up a lot of issues we are all dealing with them   the best we can. But it just pissed me off and so  now I have a sour taste in my mouth about Illumicrate   and I obviously don't have those books and  I totally I 100% believe had I not emailed them,  that i would have never seen those books  obviously and I would have never gotten and   we would have never gotten our money back. So  to me that's shady business practice and yeah   no you're a big business at this at  this point have your shit together,   fix your fucking drop down menu so if you don't  ship to somewhere that's not even a fucking option   and get it together becausehe paid for  those books and the ridiculous like 17 pound   or whatever it is shipping to the united states  which this is the united states address because   had they flagged it in the beginning we could have given them an alternate address to send it to and   still been able to get the books but no so that's  why i don't fuck with Illumicrate anymore,   they will forever be on my shit list. I really  hope they don't come out with a beautiful book   that's something i love so I don't have  to question my morals but that's the story. I love how I just went on a rant about book  boxes and then I was watching a bookish haul   by Jessie Mae and they were sent a box that's a  new subscription box and the company is i think   it's books and breadsticks? I may have that wrong, i'm gonna have them link in the description it's   a new subscription box that's based on like baking and books which if you follow me on instagram you   know I love to bake. So i'm like damn am I gonna  have to try this box? She opened the box that   was sent to her and it was literally an entire  kit to make a loaf of bread including the pan   and it was like from a local it's sourced locally  from wherever the person who created the box is   from and then the books are I think indie authors, they're from independent bookstores and i'm like   I'm intrigued. Maybe not something I would  subscribe to every month but that definitely   sounds awesome and very unique compared to other book boxes that are out there. So I just wanted to   bring attention to that i'm not trying to shit on every book box there are definitely some   that are more original than others. I think there's  one that I forgot what it's called but you get the   book and they have all these little bookish things that correlate with like something in the book, so   you get to page 95 and you open this little thing  I think that's cute. I can't confirm the items are   always great but that's definitely a more unique  idea so this isn't to just like shit on all   subscription boxes a lot of these people started  them themselves you know as small businesses and   I guess technically you could still call them  small business you know but I just would like   to have the conversation on how long we think  they're going to survive like or thrive? I guess   and then i just want to throw shade at Illumicrate because i'm forever mad but anyway and that's it   for today's video. I know this was really weird  but there's not a lot of bookish drama going on   right now because I think we are all just you know, breathing out a big sigh of relief at the results   of the elections or dare I say we released  a breath we didn't realize we were holding ?  So we'll see what happens um going forward this week, if any any drama pops off but I appreciate   if you watched this video, I know it's super weird. I'll link all the skincare products that I use in   the description if you're interested. Please give  this video a thumbs up and subscribe, check out my   description for anything else, alternatives  to amazon for book buying for audiobooks   um i am an affiliate with bookshop.org so if  you did click on the link in my description and   bought a book, I would get a small commission so thank you if you do don't feel bad if you don't.   Links to my social media are also in the  description and I hope you are feeling better   this week um this is just the first step i know  we have a lot of work to do but we can at least   just pause and breathe for a moment so i thank  you for watching i'll see you in my next one bye!
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Channel: Jess Owens
Views: 7,835
Rating: 4.9642859 out of 5
Keywords: jess owens, lifestyle, Skincare routine, Get ready with me, Grwm, Book CommuniTEA, Book drama, Publishing, What is happening with Albert Whitman, Joan he, Young adult fantasy, Book gossip, Book Twitter, Black booktuber, Booktube, Black book reviewer, Book subscription boxes, Trigger warnings
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Length: 37min 57sec (2277 seconds)
Published: Tue Nov 10 2020
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