Blackfyre Rebellions: House Targaryen’s greatest enemies

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👍︎︎ 582 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ Mar 31 2021 🗫︎ replies

The Greatest Targaryen Enemies are Themselves.

👍︎︎ 139 👤︎︎ u/Lord_Edin 📅︎︎ Mar 31 2021 🗫︎ replies

These videos are too good, hope they keep doing them. The ones on dunk & egg are mint

👍︎︎ 154 👤︎︎ u/walshy941 📅︎︎ Mar 31 2021 🗫︎ replies

I really liked how he talked about the meaning of the Blackfyres in the context of the books and showed it’s not just another obstacle for the hero (Daenerys) to overcome. It seems like the consequences of Daenerys potentially removing fAegon from the throne are going to line up with some of the plots we saw in season 8.

👍︎︎ 83 👤︎︎ u/MoonSwing17 📅︎︎ Mar 31 2021 🗫︎ replies

House Targaryen's greatest enemy: House Targaryen.

👍︎︎ 21 👤︎︎ u/cromni-k 📅︎︎ Mar 31 2021 🗫︎ replies

I like how this video shows that Danaerys burning Kings Landing and Bran becoming king can actually work narratively with the correct set up

👍︎︎ 98 👤︎︎ u/VictorM51 📅︎︎ Mar 31 2021 🗫︎ replies

Really liked this video from him. While some of his theory videos feel like a compilation of theory resources online, this is a really nice historical analysis with some overarching conclusions.

👍︎︎ 61 👤︎︎ u/jihaslun 📅︎︎ Mar 31 2021 🗫︎ replies

He makes great videos. Good for casual and less casual fans alike. they are especially good to watch before looking through this sub for discussion by giving you an overview of fan consensus and popular opinions.

👍︎︎ 26 👤︎︎ u/the_names_Savage 📅︎︎ Mar 31 2021 🗫︎ replies

His videos are great.

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The Game of Thrones books describe hundreds of years of history – full of kings and wars, drama and politics, and an awful lot of incest. Three hundred years ago, Aegon Targaryen took over Westeros, and his dynasty ruled for almost three centuries – until Robert Baratheon took over, and the main series begins. Targaryen rule was often tumultuous – like, the Targaryens almost destroyed themselves in a civil war called the Dance of the Dragons. But in the hundred years before Robert’s Rebellion, the greatest threat to House Targaryen was the Blackfyres. King Aegon Targaryen the Fourth was called “the Unworthy”, cause he was a terrible king. He was corrupt and impulsive, full of gluttony and lust. His wife was his sister Naerys, and they had a son called Prince Daeron. But Aegon also took hundreds of other women as lovers, and had dozens of bastard children. Aegon hated Naerys and Daeron, so he spread rumours that Naerys had cheated on him with their brother Aemon, and that Aemon was Daeron’s real father. Aegon threatened to make one of his bastards heir to the throne instead of Daeron. Aegon’s favourite bastard was Daemon Waters. His mother was Aegon’s cousin Daena “the Defiant”. Daena had been locked away to preserve her innocence from lustful men, but Daena escaped and hooked up with Aegon. Daena named their son Daemon, after a Prince Daemon Targaryen who had lived fifty years earlier. Prince Daemon was renowned as a dangerous man, “the wonder and the terror of his age” – so the name was an ominous “warning” of the man who Daemon Waters would become. From a young age, Daemon was a talented warrior. When he was just twelve years old, King Aegon made Daemon a knight – and gave him the legendary Valyrian steel sword Blackfyre. Blackfyre was the sword of Aegon the Conqueror, carried by Targaryen kings for centuries [~180 years]. It’s a powerful symbol of the Targaryen throne, and King Aegon gave it not to his true heir Prince Daeron Targaryen, but to his bastard son Daemon. From that day, Daemon took the name Daemon Blackfyre. King Aegon died a horrible death, literally rotting under the weight of his obesity. And on his deathbed, he made one last spiteful act – he legitimised all his bastards, giving them the right to inherit like a trueborn child. Daeron was still his eldest son and heir, but now his bastards were also in line for the Throne – a perfect recipe for conflict. After Aegon died, Daeron became king. He worked to repair the realm that Aegon had corrupted, and he tried to keep friendly with Aegon’s bastards. He gave Daemon some land, and married him to a woman called Rohanne of Tyrosh. King Daeron married a Dornish princess, Myriah Martell, and successfully unified Dorne with the rest of Westeros [under Targaryen rule], which the Targaryens had been trying to do since the Conquest. King Daeron gave the Dornish more political influence, and Dorne got special rights and privileges that the other kingdoms didn’t have – which angered some lords. Houses in the reach and the stormlands [Marcher lords] had been fighting the Dornish for thousands of years, and still saw them as enemies. Aegon the Unworthy had hated the Dornish and tried to attack them. And before him, tens of thousands died in a previous war for Dorne. There was a lot of bad blood here. So when King Daeron got in bed with the Dornish, some people were angry. Some didn’t trust Daeron and Myriah’s son, Prince Baelor Breakspear, because he had the dark hair and dark eyes of a Dornishman, not the blonde hair and purple eyes of a Targaryen. So a combination of politics and prejudice turned some lords against King Daeron [and his Dornish allies]. They looked instead to Daemon Blackfyre – he looked like a Targaryen king. And Daemon was way cooler than Daeron. Daeron was weak and scholarly, he read books and listened to women, while Daemon was a big strong warrior with the legendary “sword of kings”, Blackfyre. Some lords thought “Daemon was the better man”, and urged him to rebel and take the Throne. Daemon was also influenced by his siblings. The “Great Bastards” of Aegon the Unworthy included Aegor Rivers, called “Bittersteel”, Brynden Rivers called “Bloodraven”, and Shiera Seastar. Shiera was the most beautiful woman in the realm, and supposedly a sorcerer who bathed in blood to keep her youth. Bittersteel and Bloodraven hated each other, because they both loved Shiera, and Shiera chose Bloodraven over Bittersteel. Bittersteel and Bloodraven also had a family rivalry. Cause Bittersteel’s mother was Barba Bracken, and Bloodraven’s mother was Melissa Blackwood, and the Blackwoods and Brackens have hated each other for thousands of years. When Barba hooked up with King Aegon, the Brackens plotted and schemed to tryn make Barba queen – which could’ve potentially made Bittersteel heir to the throne. But that.. went.. very badly, and [partly because of Daeron] the Brackens lost their political influence. While Melissa Blackwood and Bloodraven kept their influence on the throne. So Bittersteel was.. bitter about the fall of his family, and about Bloodraven getting his girl Shiera. Author George Martin said Bittersteel was “pissed off all his life”, and he hated Bloodraven and Daeron. So Bittersteel urged Daemon to rebel against Daeron, and claim the throne himself. There was also this knight called Quentyn Ball, nicknamed Fireball – he was angry at King Daeron for not letting him join the Kingsguard. So Fireball and Bittersteel and everyone else who had beef with Daeron finally convinced Daemon to rebel. Daemon declared himself the rightful king of Westeros, and the true heir of King Aegon – claiming that Daeron was the bastard son of Aegon’s brother. So rebel lords gathered to Daemon’s black dragon banner, and the red dragon battled the black. The great houses, like the Lannisters, Arryns, Tullys, and Martells, stayed loyal to the Targaryens – they wanted to preserve their power in the status quo. The Blackfyre supporters were mostly the less powerful houses hoping to gain power under a different king – houses like the Yronwoods in Dorne, and the Reynes in the westerlands have a history of rebelling against their liege lords. So there were “many battles” all across Westeros. Fireball kicked some Lannister arse in the westerlands. But just before the final battle, Fireball was killed by some random archer – some fans suspect that Bloodraven was behind this. But the First Blackfyre Rebellion ended at the Battle of the Redgrass Field. Daemon Blackfyre fought brilliantly, and had an epic duel with Gwayne Corbray of the Kingsguard. Corbray had a Valyrian steel sword called Lady Forlorn, and every time it clashed with Blackfyre the sound could be heard from miles around, [“half a song and half a scream”]. Daemon defeated Corbray, but then helped his wounded enemy get to safety. Bloodraven took advantage of this moment to rain arrows on his half-brother – weirwood arrows, “driven as much by sorcery” as by his bow. Daemon Blackfyre and two of his sons were killed. Bittersteel took up Daemon’s sword and led a “mad charge” to rally the rebels. Bloodraven fought a duel with Bittersteel, and Bloodraven lost an eye. Then Prince Baelor Breakspear and Prince Maekar crushed the rebel army, like a hammer and an anvil. So Daemon Blackfyre was defeated – but some of his sons and Bittersteel survived. They went across to Essos, and founded a mercenary group called the Golden Company, made up of exiled lords and knights from Westeros. They took contracts to fight all over the east, but they never forgot their goal to return to Westeros and put a Blackfyre on the Throne. Back in Westeros, King Daeron punished the lords who had rebelled against him. Rebels like Gormon Peake had some of their lands and power taken away and their children taken hostage, to stop them from rebelling again. So it seemed that Daeron had cemented his power, and as long as nothing terrible happened, he would rule for many more years. But then something terrible happened. The heir to the throne Baelor Breakspear died at a tournament, as told in story The Hedge Knight. Then a deadly plague hit Westeros, that killed Baelor’s sons, and killed King Daeron. So the weak and bookish Aerys Targaryen became king, and his reign was troubled by ironborn raiders and drought. Bloodraven practically ruled the realm for him, and was brutal in spying and executing people for treasonous speech. Many people hated Bloodraven. And the recent plague had killed a lot of the hostages held against rebel lords. So Gormon Peake saw these divided times as an opportunity to win back his power and pride. He planned a second Blackfyre rebellion with one of Daemon Blackfyre’s sons, Daemon the Second. With Lord Butterwell, they held a wedding tournament to bring together Blackfyre supporters. Daemon was convinced he would succeed and become king because he had prophetic dreams of a dragon egg hatching. But he didn’t have enough allies – Bittersteel and the Golden Company didn’t support him, possibly because Daemon was gay, or possibly just because his plan sucked. Daemon’s magic dreams didn’t work out like he hoped, and his plans were ruined by Duncan the Tall, and the son of Fireball, and some secret toilet dwarfs – it’s a whole thing, go watch our Mystery Knight video. The point is, the Second Blackfyre Rebellion failed before it even began, and Bloodraven imprisoned Daemon the Second. But after Daemon died, his brother Haegon launched the Third Blackfyre Rebellion. Haegon Blackfyre, Bittersteel, and the Golden Company attacked, and they were defeated by the Targaryens. We’re told that Prince Maekar showed “leadership”, Prince Egg showed “courage”, and Prince Aerion took.. “actions”. Aerion was mad and cruel, so whatever “actions” he did may not have been.. helpful. Bloodraven fought another duel with Bittersteel. This was twenty years after the first rebellion, and these guys were still fighting over who got to root their sister. This personal beef between the white dragon Bloodraven and the red stallion Bittersteel, the Blackwood and the Bracken, continued to drive the conflict of the Blackfyre rebellions. Anyway the Blackfyres were defeated, and Haegon was “slain treacherously” after he had surrendered, which sounds like something Bloodraven might do, or maybe Aerion. We’re told almost nothing about the Third Rebellion, so hopefully we’ll get the full story in a future Dunk & Egg novella. We do know that Bittersteel was captured, and Bloodraven wanted him killed, to finally end his rebellions. But King Aerys chose to just send him to the Night’s Watch on the Wall instead. This was “a foolish mercy”, because Bittersteel just escaped, went back east, and prepared for the next Blackfyre rebellion. After King Aerys died, Maekar became king. When Maekar died, there was a big council to choose the next king. They didn’t want Aerion’s son Maegor to be king, because he was a baby, and his dad was crazy. They didn’t want Daeron’s daughter Vaella, because she was “simple-minded”, and, a girl. Maester Aemon refused to be king, because he was a maester. And they didn’t want Egg, because he grew up travelling with a hedge knight called Dunk, and Egg all these crazy ideas about how peasants should have ‘rights’ and stuff. So then, a fifth option arrived – Aenys Blackfyre, a younger son of Daemon the First, said that he should be king. Bloodraven promised to let Aenys come to King’s Landing and speak unharmed, but Bloodraven lied, and cut off Aenys’ head, ruthlessly crushing a Blackfyre once again. And the council chose Egg to be king. As punishment for dishonourably killing Aenys, King Egg sent Bloodraven to the Night’s Watch on the Wall. Years later, Bloodraven became the magical three-eyed crow, and now continues to do morally questionable things for the sake of the greater good – like turning Bran into a magic tree boy. In Book 5, Bloodraven tells Bran that he once had a brother that he loved, a brother that he hated, and a woman he desired. The woman he desired was Shiera, the brother he hated was Bittersteel. The brother he loved might have been Daeron. But maybe, in a way, Bloodraven loved his brother Daemon – which would add a layer of tragedy to his killing of Daemon on the Redgrass Field. Bloodraven does some terrible things in his fight against the Blackfyres. He kills his brother Daemon. Runs a brutal surveillance state under King Aerys, and captures Daemon the Second. Dishonourably kills Aenys, and possibly Haegon as well. Bloodraven argues that the ends justify the means. Traitors must be crushed, or else they’ll just rebel again, so it’s worth sacrificing his honour for the sake of the realm. And it seems like Bloodraven’s right. Like, King Aerys showed mercy to Bittersteel, and that was “foolish”, cause Bittersteel just went and rebelled again. Back when Daeron was king, he was friendly to his rival Daemon, and even married him to the wife who bore his rebel sons. If Daeron had imprisoned or killed Daemon instead, generations of Blackfyre rebellions might never have happened. “too much mercy” from the Targaryens led to generations of war [“pain, grief, war, and murder”]. Like how Ned Stark’s mercy just gets him killed and leads to war. So is Bloodraven right, that mercy and honour leads to conflict, and that only ruthless violence can keep you safe? Well the story’s not over yet. In the reign of King Egg, the Fourth Blackfyre Rebellion began. Daemon the First’s grandson, Daemon Blackfyre the Third, landed near King’s Landing, with Bittersteel and the Golden Company – but few lords supported this rebellion. King Egg rode out to fight them, alongside his sons – Jaehaerys, Daeron and Duncan the Small – who was probably named after Duncan the Tall. At the Battle of Wendwater Bridge, Dunk killed Daemon the Third, and the Blackfyres were defeated again, Bittersteel fled east again, and a few years later Bittersteel died in battle fighting as a mercenary. He was sixty-nine years old, and he died as he lived – “with a sword in his hand and defiance upon his lips”. Bittersteel failed to get a Blackfyre on the throne. But his legacy lives on. The Golden Company, and the surviving Blackfyres continued to rebel in his name. The Golden Company gilded Bittersteel’s skull, covered it with gold, and they still carry it into battle on their banners, so that one day, Bittersteel’s remains can return to Westeros to see a Blackfyre on the Throne. [Their war cry is “Beneath the gold, the bitter steel” ]. King Egg died in the mysterious tragedy of Summerhall. Egg’s son Jaehaerys became king, and he faced a new Blackfyre threat. Over in Essos, “nine outlaws, exiles, pirates, and sellsword captains” [met “beneath the Tree of Crowns”, and] formed “an unholy alliance”. The “Band of Nine”, or “Ninepenny Kings”, were a motley group of badasses from around the world who worked together to conquer. They included Derrick Fossoway, the Bad Apple – a descendent of the Fossoways from The Hedge Knight. There was Samarro Saan, an ancestor of the pirate Salladhor Saan, from the main series. And there was “the last Blackfyre”, Maelys the Monstrous. Maelys was “grotesquely huge”, strong, and savage. He had supposedly eaten his twin brother in the womb, so his brother’s tiny head grew from his neck. Maelys took over the Golden Company by killing his Blackfyre cousin – he killed his cousin’s horse with one punch, then ripped his cousin’s head off his shoulders. Maelys and the Ninepenny Kings and the Golden Company took over Tyrosh and the Stepstones, and prepared to attack Westeros. So King Jaehaerys sent an army to destroy them, led by Ormund Baratheon. Ormund was killed by Maelys, and he died in the arms of his son Steffon – Steffon is the father of Robert, Stannis and Renly Baratheon. Lord Quellon Greyjoy, grandfather of Theon and Asha, led a fleet of longships into battle. The Starks, Lannisters, Arryns, Tullys and Martells also sent soldiers, so the gang wsall here, united against the Ninepenny Kings. Many young knights won fame and glory in the fighting, including Catelyn’s uncle, Brynden Blackfish, and Tywin Lannister, along with his brothers Kevan and Tygett. During the war, Tywin and Steffon Baratheon made friends with the king’s son, Aerys Targaryen – but that friendship later broke down when Aerys became the Mad King. Lord Hoster Tully made friends with a Lord Baelish, so Baelish’s son Petyr went to live with the Tullys in Riverrun – the beginning of Littlefinger’s rise to power. Jon Arryn made friends with Rickard Stark and Steffon Baratheon, which eventually led to the Arryn-Stark-Baratheon alliance that took down the Mad King in Robert’s Rebellion. So a lot of the relationships that shaped the past generation of the game of thrones began in this war. The war ended when a young Barristan Selmy cut a bloody path through the Golden Company and killed Maelys the Monstrous. So after five generations of rebellions, House Blackfyre was finally dead, and they’ll never be a threat again. …Right? We’re told that Maelys was “the last Blackfyre”. But then we’re told that Maelys was just the last Blackfyre through the male line, which implies that some Blackfyres survived through the female line – meaning, Daemon’s daughters or granddaughters might’ve survived and had kids. So maybe the Blackfyres could return. In the books, Varys and Illyrio’s secret plan is make this kid Young Griff the King of Westeros. They say that Young Griff is Aegon Targaryen, the son of Rhaegar and Elia, who was believed to have died, but Varys claims they secretly saved him. Some characters don’t believe this kid is really Aegon Targaryen. And in visions and prophecy, we’re warned of a “false” dragon, or a “mummer’s dragon”, meaning a fake Targaryen. Varys was a mummer, or street performer, and a master of illusion and deception. Varys says that “Power resides where men believe it resides”, that power is a mummer’s trick. Young Griff is his “mummer’s dragon”. So what’s the trick? There’s a theory that the Young Griff is not Aegon Targaryen – he’s actually a Blackfyre. Cause in Book 5, Young Griff invades Westeros to take the Throne, calling himself Aegon Targaryen. And he’s supported by the Golden Company. For a hundred years, the Golden Company have fought against the Targaryens for the Blackfyres. So Tyrion asks why would they fight for a Targaryen? And that’s when Illyrio says that the Blackfyres are extinct through the male line. He says the Golden Company supports them because of contracts writ in blood, “I say no more”. Illyrio and Varys made their alliance with the Golden Company with Company commander Blackheart Toyne. And the Toynes would have a particular grudge against the Targaryens because the Targaryens caused the downfall of their family a hundred years ago. It is so weird for the Golden Company to support Young Griff – unless Young Griff is a Blackfyre. This might also explain Illyrio’s motivations. Cause Tyrion wonders why Illyrio is in this conspiracy to make Young Griff the King of Westeros. Illyrio is a cheese merchant from Essos, why does he care about putting this teenager on a foreign throne? Illyrio says he’s just in it for the money, but Tyrion thinks he has some deeper reason. Illyrio says he has “debts of affection to repay”. Illyrio is very fond of Young Griff – he wants to spend time with him, praises him, gives him gifts. He’s almost like a father to Young Griff. Illyrio once had a wife called Serra, who he loved deeply before she died. And Serra had silver-gold hair like a Targaryen.. or like a Blackfyre. So the theory is that Serra was a Blackfyre, and Young Griff was her son with Illyrio. Illyrio wants Young Griff on the Iron Throne to honour his beloved Serra Blackfyre. And it looks like Young Griff might actually succeed where past generations of Blackfyres failed. Cause, in some ways, Young Griff is similar to Daemon Blackfyre the Second – he’s young, handsome, and confident. He uses a fake name, and dyes his hair to hide the Blackfyre blonde. But Daemon the Second failed because he didn’t have an army, he didn’t have enough alliances, and he didn’t have important symbols like the sword Blackfyre. Young Griff could soon have all three. He has the Golden Company’s army, and they’ve already taken castles in the stormlands. He’s working on an alliance with Dorne, and has “friends in the Reach”. As for the sword Blackfyre, its location is a mystery. But in a draft of a chapter read by George Martin, Illyrio says he has a gift for Young Griff, and mentions a “sword”. So some fans believe that Illyrio has the sword Blackfyre, and will give it to Young Griff, to show his legitimacy as king – and to subtly hint at his Blackfyre heritage. Young Griff might just win the Iron Throne. But when Daenerys finally arrives, blazing in from the east with her dragons, she’s gonna want Young Griff off her chair. In Daenerys’ vision of the “mummer’s dragon”, Daenerys is called the “slayer of lies”. Maybe she’ll slay the lie that Young Griff is a Targaryen, and will destroy this false king, finally truly ending House Blackfyre. But, if that’s what happens, what’s the meaning here? Is the whole Blackfyre plotline, and Young Griff, just one last obstacle between Daenerys and the Throne? Is the “mummer’s dragon” only there “to give the heroes something to fight”, as Daenerys says? Maybe this could tie back to the theme of mercy. Like, all throughout the Blackfyre rebellions, Bloodraven has argued that mercy is stupid and you should brutally kill your enemies. But maybe this time, brutal murder would be a bad idea? Like, Young Griff might be seen as a popular legitimate Targaryen king [“amidst a cheering crowd”]. So if Daenerys the scary dragon lady incinerates him in front of everyone, that could backfire on her, even if Daenerys is right. Maybe this time, mercy to the Blackfyres would be wise. And maybe being right, and having the true Targaryen bloodline, isn’t what’s important. Maybe it doesn’t matter whether Young Griff is a Targaryen or a Blackfyre. “Power resides where men believe it resides”. And “Treason … is only a word”. This whole hundred-year conflict traces back to whether Daeron or Daemon was the true heir of King Aegon. And for all we know, Daemon might have been right. Maybe Naerys really did cheat on Aegon with their brother, and Daemon was the rightful king all along. But why should a question of who porked who a hundred years ago cause generations of war? Jorah once told Daenerys that the common people don’t care whether they’re ruled by “a true king or a usurper” – they just want to be “left in peace”. But the idea of monarchy where the Throne is inherited by the king’s trueborn heir has caused wars for centuries, and another Targaryen-Blackfyre conflict would just continue this cycle of violence. So maybe the Throne should be destroyed in the end, along with the Targaryens and Blackfyres, trueborn and falseborn. So that a different a kind of king can rule. Bran Stark won’t have kids, trueborn or bastard. There won’t be wars to inherit his throne, so long as keeps ruling for centuries, with immortality from the weirwoods, like his master Bloodraven. The magic of the weirwoods and the three-eyed crow is super creepy and controlling. If Bran becomes king in the books, he might just be a puppet of Bloodraven and the old gods. So after a hundred years, and six Blackfyre rebellions, King Bran would be Bloodraven’s victory in his ancient rivalry with Bittersteel and the Blackfyres [and Brackens]. He might even get Shiera back in the end – there’s a theory that she’s still alive as the masked sorceress Quaithe. But that’s all just speculation. We don’t know how the books will end. We don’t know if Bran will be king in the books, and we don’t know for sure if Young Griff if is a Blackfyre. But the history of the Blackfyre rebellions explores the story’s big themes of power, mercy, and monarchy, and they could be an important part of the endgame of A Song of Ice and Fire. 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