BIM 360 Design Collaboration. Explained. (FINALLY!)

[Music] [Music] all right all right hello hello hello everyone and welcome welcome to another episode of bim after dark live this is episode 68 of the show thank you guys for joining me today i'm super excited this is a topic that i've been uh trying to figure out um how i wanted to approach and talk about it but i knew i wanted to talk about it initially i was going to try and approach it myself but i decided that having our guest today come on and chat about it would be a safer bet because he can handle all the autodesk heckling that you guys are going to give them when the time comes but we are we are talking about bim 360 um autodesk construction cloud um with a focus on uh design collaboration and i probably used all the wrong terms by the time you guys watch this so hopefully as we go through this you understand what i'm talking about because uh anyone who's on twitter already realized that we're we're not even really sure what to call some of these some things sometimes so hopefully scott my guests today will be able to clarify it but uh my name is jeff also known as the revit kid i'm super excited to run through this and and honestly i'm excited to learn more about it um uh from scott uh um and and also uh hopefully demystify it for everyone um i'm i'm looking down on the chat as you guys know this is a live show so feel free to chat ask questions um and uh and and do what you may on the chat i'll be keeping in mind as we go along uh before we jump into uh introducing my guest i did want to uh uh thank our sponsor our title sponsor of the show today and just to just roll this clip the title sponsor is polly cam and if you don't know what that is i'm gonna show you right now [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] all right so polycam polycam is an application for your iphone or ipad and it is a lidar scanner as well as a photogrammetry app and so for those of you who want to know more about it feel free to head on over to polycam.bimafterdark.com 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the chat is gonna be bonkers so without further ado um because i made you wait so long scott i am gonna introduce scott davis scott what's going on man oh i think you're i think you're muted buddy wow what a rookie i'm muted and i left my mute i left my mute on on zoom god rookie mistake right off the bat um hey welcome thanks everybody thanks for having me this is awesome episode 68 i'm glad i'm finally here that's right that's right and you are you are the very first auto desk uh employee to be on the show so thank you for for taking that jump and being that person i appreciate it uh before we jump into the content maybe just give everyone a little background on on who you are and what you do for those for those in the chat who don't know you yeah uh real quickly i i've been why you've been doing that i've been getting feedback i'm hearing everything double so i'm trying to figure out how to like diagnose that at the moment maybe you have youtube open uh yeah maybe i did mute it maybe you're getting sound there yeah okay sorry guys let me let me get rid of that good we don't hear it too much so you don't hear too much okay i don't know it's so it's it's a you problem sorry yeah uh and uh so i'm just checking out the chat thank you guys uh for joining us some some regulars um we got all kinds some some previous guests i know aaron's here uh uh i think uh aussie bim guru uh gavin who was on last week is here uh so thank you guys for joining uh james van is here what's up james oh my gosh it's gonna be a fun one awesome all right well i think i better yeah i got my audio issues figured out i just dropped the the volume on the chrome side so thank you everybody thanks for having me jeffrey i really appreciate it man you and i go way back we were talking like you know you've done this for a really long time too so um quick introduction for anybody that doesn't know me my name's scott davis i go by scott d davis and i have to do that because there are two other scott davis's inside of autodesk and we all share each other's emails so that's where the middle initial had to come from got it very common name if you uh if you get on twitter and you and you tweet at scott davis there's a musician whose name is scott d davis as well so we trade uh tweets all the time so very common name um 15 years for myself at autodesk now or i'm coming up on my 15 year anniversary next march so congratulations thank you thank you yeah i didn't realize you're at autodesk for that long that's awesome man it's been a long time um you know and part of our annual reviews is now to like start talking about the future and like my reviews have started to talk about the word retirement so i'm hoping to hoping to stick it out here for a while and and see if i can get another 10 or 15 years in and uh we'll see where that takes us but it's been a fun ride so far awesome my background prior to that was that i worked in architecture here in southern california i worked at two different firms here locally got my education at cal poly pomona degree in architecture um i was a day one revit user for those that don't know so uh the the story goes that i found out from a good friend of mine jim balding who cannot be on the call tonight because it's his wife's birthday he's actually he's actually here right now right now what both sadie's gotta run in five minutes so he was like here he must have jumped in yeah i got i got priority over the wife balding that's great so anyway so jim balding is the one that hooked me up he actually introduced me to uh to rev it illegally because he was under non-disclosure and actually told me early about it and so it was a violation there somewhere i think we're beyond statute of limitations at this point but uh in any case uh i was working in a firm we were looking at architectural desktop adt as it was called back in the day now uh uh uh architectural desktop oh my gosh i forget the names and um you know i started using revit day one at wlc architects and uh as they say the rest is history so here we are awesome awesome well i i appreciate you coming on and i also appreciate you coming on to to talk about this topic because um you know the the uh as as the tweets showed and i think even comments already in the chat showed um there and you and i have had a previous discussion sort of about this um personally my opinion on it is is you know we're we're we're getting closer to what i what i would call the holy grail of of bim as far as we've you know for 15 years we've all been talking about um which is this this you know real time access to models and information all the time through all these applications the unfortunate part is it's extremely convoluted complicated and it's just clunky right now and and so uh you know having you on to help explain to folks um hopefully you know what what the structure this platform looks like and um today i think we're gonna focus more on design collaboration i think depending on how it goes uh i think maybe we have another episode and maybe you come back on if you want to talk about model coordination because i do think that you know the the applications that that connect to all of these this unified platform to this you know this localized central piece of information i think is also valuable but i think for today we're going to try to steer the conversation more towards design collaboration obviously guys in the chat i'm going to keep an eye on that and see where it goes but um so so i guess um maybe what we do is just hit hit it right off the bat and and maybe do your best as as the the hopefully uh voice of reason in the room to explain what it is that we are going to talk yeah you know uh it's actually a really good introduction because i think my entire existence at autodesk in the last couple of years and especially this last year has become explaining this to customers because uh one thing that autodesk has done really well if you want to say we've done something really well is to confuse the hell out of people um because it is confusing and if i was in uh you guys shoes customers shoes again you know it would be confusing to me so uh kind of taking it upon myself to to try to dispel some of those myths make some sense of it all i'm hoping that uh i can give you guys all the the information tonight that you're looking for um still not gonna be perfect uh there are way too many things going on we're still working on consolidating platforms going forward you know this whole idea that there's still bim 360 there's now the autodesk construction cloud or acc two different platforms that really do the same thing has added to the confusion plus we've changed names on you at least a dozen times it probably i will be honest it probably won't be the last time that we're going to name change something somebody in the in the marketing group will get a crazy idea that we should you know rename some things again so but anyway i will do my best to try to dispel as much as i can tonight try to make it as clear as possible as you mentioned we're going to try to stick on the design collaboration side revit cloud work sharing we're going to melissa we're going to talk packages we're going to talk consuming at some point so so let's let maybe we should start right there with with with naming and how right now how we should talk about this uh because it is hard it's hard to figure out when you're trying to explain to somebody like honestly even when i say so we use autodesk construction cloud and so uh it is easier now where i can log into pretty much any of my cloud projects using acc.autodesk.com so it makes it a little easier um but but is it are we talking i mean is it bim360 i mean what what do we call this i set up a bim 360 project i set up a construction cloud project like how how what terms should we use to oh my god make sense of this so the the thing that you actually subscribe to now is called for short the acronym because we acronym everything too to even make it more confusing is abc pro that's autodesk bim collaborate pro okay that package of things includes the elements that turn on revit cloud work sharing for you turn on the design collaboration module inside of either bim 360 or acc because it's still available in either platform it turns on the model coordination module for you in either platform which allows you to do uh clash detection and coordination much like the the older product now and i know jeffrey you guys use this a lot the old glue product you know so now we have that as a more cloud-hosted product and model coordination so there's a few things going on there but really by default it's abc pro that you can host a project in the bim360 platform or in the acc the autodesk construction cloud platform really the best way to start describing it does that make sense so so is the autodesk construction cloud in bim360 are those two separate platforms or is that just going to become one in in the future so yeah currently they are two separate platforms and so you guys have to make a decision right up front when you start a project uh do i want to start in the autodesk construction cloud platform which is really the integrated platform we call it's the one that when we acquired plan grid as a company a little bit of background here to to maybe help understand why we did the things we did because people are asking why did you make two separate platforms when we acquired plan grid the idea was that it should always become part of our cloud solution the way i understand it though to make it integrated into what was currently bim 360 was a lot like trying to change the the tires on a formula one car while it was going around the track and so they made the decision to say okay we need a split we need to make a new platform where plan grid is integrated in keep the old platform bim 360 in place so that people can continue to work on their old projects and even spring up new projects today until they feel the need to maybe go into some of those additional tools like autodesk build which is really the more the construction side of the business so so moving forward eventually the the plan is to not have the bim 360 side of it and it'll all be on the one unified yeah you call it at that point one unified platform going forward i mean that's that's the number one goal is to to be there and of course obviously we're not there yet so the next question logically is when and i don't even know because it it well there's two things if i did know i couldn't tell you you guys know how autodesk works but i honestly i don't know because we don't we don't have that um that plan completely ironed out yet of when it will happen what we do know is that you guys as customers have a ton of projects in bim 360 the current bim 360 platform today using design collaboration using revit cloud work sharing and some of those projects that you have there are five and ten year projects maybe even some of them are even longer than that so i don't expect that bim 360 platform as we know it to go anywhere anytime soon um i could probably say with confidence it's not like a year it's probably not two years it's probably a lot longer than that what i think will happen and this is completely opinion at this point because literally i don't have any insider information about this but what i think will happen is at some point we'll say continue your old projects but no new projects in bim 360 because today you can still make a new project in biblical right so at some point i think that will cut off and then at some point down the road in the future then we're going to say okay we need to take those bim 360 projects and migrate or move them over to acc and that's actually another big part of the puzzle that we don't have in place yet we actually don't have the migration tool ready yet to take for those of you that want to take a bim 360 project and move it into the audience construction cloud with no data loss no model integrity loss all of the markups all the issues all of the rfi everything that you've created needs to go seamlessly from one platform to the next so you're not having to rebuild it all right so that's something that's not in place yet either but is being worked on you know as far as i know so so i guess to try and um maybe what i'll do is is uh to try and wrap a bow on this and hopefully not make people scatter out [Laughter] um you know as far and maybe maybe what i'll do is sort of uh attempt to explain how i conceptualize or contextualize i guess depending on is uh this you know this unified software regardless of bim 360 or or construction cloud because they're you know kind of the same as far as that's concerned um the way i see this whole deal and i think it helps people when i explain it this way is um and this is where it's hard it's hard to it's hard to figure out what the naming to to use but basically um the way i try to explain it when when i'm explaining it to other folks in on the team or when we're setting up a project is what we're doing is we're setting up a a a cloud server let's say uh uh for the project so let's say we project a we set up this cloud server and then we're just attaching applications to it that do different things right and so whether you're using autodesk construction cloud whether you're using bin360 whether you're using model coordinate or work revit work sharing or takeoff or plan grid which is now build whatever it's called right essentially what you're doing is you're placing a a centralized cloud location for putting all of your data in files and models and then you're just using all these applications to access that data is that is that the the best sort of or am i am i seeing it correctly yeah no i think you've got a really good description of it it is that idea that we're we're centralizing data in the form of files today and then for those that attended anything autodesk university you heard a lot about being data centric rather than file centric which is kind of the next big thing down the road but today it's a file centric uh structure that you know things live in the cloud allows anytime anywhere access of those files you know you can still get to these things from the bim 360 app if you're in the bim 360 project you can be in the field on your phone on an android on a tablet grab drawings look at models assign issues et cetera et cetera that was the whole concept behind it was that it was centralized data you weren't relying on uh localized data and then sharing out through a firewall through a vpn or other methodologies which open security holes and other things um there so i mean it was that idea that we could centralize everything in one location and so so then so then whether you're using autos construction cloud or 360 essentially they're they're they're just different ways of accessing that centralized piece of data that's it um and they're all built on the same language yeah they're all built in the same language and the the applications uh that access them are similar on either side right now right i mean there's not a major difference other than i think on the construction cloud you have the plan grid piece of it right the correct rfi submittals cost management all that construction stuff but both sides you have model coordinate i believe right both sides you have cloud work sharing or collaborate whatever we want to call it at this point yeah model coordination model coordinates yes all that stuff um okay awesome so so i and i will say and and and you know as much as we joke about all the naming and the complete confusion of it as i mentioned in the beginning i do firmly believe that there is uh there is a there will be a massive shift and this is allowing us to do uh to get to that point we've always dreamed of which is that that real-time access to model information and sharing and all this great stuff it really is and to be completely honest though the revit cloud work sharing is phenomenal uh if anyone who's ever dealt and probably still dealing with vpn central model access or revit server you know any anyone's ever dealt with those things and has dealt with the the the revit cloud work sharing setup um you'll see that there's huge huge benefits it is it is it is well done so um i think what we're going to do is i'm going to take a q we're going to take a quick break for the big bad game tip of the week um and then maybe we'll jump into it because i think it'll help now we kind of set the context and when we're running through the setup of a project um using rev cloud work sharing or all these things i think it'll also help take take what we explain and and demonstrate it in real time for people absolutely i've got some screen shares set up i've got an acc project and a bim 360 project side by side hopefully that will help to dispel it we can go into revit and actually you know before you jump into the the break here you know we're watching i'm watching your comments you see me look on my other screen uh i don't have an agenda tonight like i don't have anything prepared i'm not going to power point you guys to that that's not me i want to jump right into product but i want you guys to help lead the discussion i've already looked at like there's a lot of like tell the myth help us understand that's what i'm here for so let's do that yeah for sure awesome that's what we're gonna do i love it okay so before before we do that um we are gonna jump into our big bad bin tip of the week so for those of you who maybe are watching this for the first time uh this is a segment uh where you guys the audience um send in your favorite revit tips um and so every single tip that i'm sharing here has been submitted by someone here in the audience and if i choose your tip for the week i send you a free t-shirt so this week's tip is from robert and you actually submitted it like three months ago robert so hopefully you see this and i don't have your email so hopefully you see this and you shoot me an email and and claim your free t-shirt um but it's an awesome little tip and it's actually an mep tip it's for plumbing uh and pipes which is something you don't always see on my channel so i appreciate it um this this segment is sponsored by enscape those of you who don't know what enscape is it is a real-time rendering plug-in for revit sits right on top of it phenomenal design tool as well as a rendering tool i posted a video on the channel two weeks ago showing 3.2 and some of the neat things that just came out so definitely check that out um if you're interested head on over to enscape.bimafterdark.com you'll save 10 off your subscription thank you enscape for sponsoring this uh this little segment here so uh the tip this week again is is from robert and it has to do with pipes and connecting pipes and anyone who's who's dealt with this may may have may know this but i think anyone new or or experienced with piping may not realize that revit actually does a pretty good job um auto routing for you and giving you options for the auto routes what you see here is two pipes that are different elevations different they're not parallel they're they're skewed and so on and so forth i'm clicking the two pipes i'm going to select under the modify panel i'm going to select routing solutions and what you're going to see is revit's giving me seven different solutions to connecting these pipes automatically so anyone who sat there and smashed their head against the wall with revit mvp um and i say this all the time to people who are trying to learn revit mep um it actually is a an extremely powerful and it's it's it's actually a fairly simple um way to to to model mechanical uh and electrical and plumbing systems in my opinion um so what you're seeing here is i'm flipping through and then all i do is hit the check box to the solution i like and and now it it modeled it in place so um awesome little tip um from from robert i appreciate it um and uh and i hope that you guys learned a little something here uh go check out um any of my other um i think i did an mep for architects or mep for dummies uh video like a year ago i'll link to that um if you don't know and and that this can build on top of that one but thank you robert for submitting that thank you enscape for sponsoring it and head on over to enscape.bimafterdark.com to send 10 uh save 10 today so that's our tip of the week uh a little break in the middle of the segment here uh i saw a few a few good little chats coming in between some some already some questions that are deep already and i will not get there yet in a second but but let's not jump directly into the weeds let's get to the weeds oh my gosh there's questions coming out on tandem already i mean we could you guys got the next eight hours we could chat for a while if you guys want so i don't know this is crazy all right i'm west coast it's only six a little after 6 30 here it's 9 30. yeah exactly yeah it'll be it's like one in the afternoon in the east coast of australia for australian friends so they got all the rest of the yeah they just finished their lunch they're just hanging out over there in australia and new zealand they're ready to roll awesome all right so let's do this let's um i'll keep an eye on the chat i'm going to read through some of the stuff i might have missed and if there's any questions that i relevant maybe maybe let's just start with sort of setting up a project or how you would sort of go through explaining the the the multiple facets and i'm just gonna let you do your thing for a minute and and and we'll jump in so people are seeing your screen right now oh good yeah and as you as you see chats come in jeffrey please jump in and let me know how it's going and i'll try to focus on this screen and not the the chat yeah i'll keep an eye on the chat unless unless there's something i really want you to read i'll let you check it out perfect all right so what we've got on the screen right now on the left side is an autodesk construction cloud project so this site over here this is acc this is bim360 this is the one you guys most know today right i think the majority of projects still today are still in the bim 360 side of things at least in the design space jeffrey you're different you're on the construction side of the business so it makes sense that you jump into it yeah we still have both though to be fair we still have both and the only way i know is when i'm in it and and i see the the different ui these days yeah and they do look different right so yeah that's kind of how you tell right up front um docs the the thing that the acc uh platform is built on almost always starts you at autodust build so the very first thing you get to is build it's like the big home screen and there's a there's dashboards and things there while the uh the bim 360 side of the project usually starts you off in document management you also have project home maybe we take a look at that first like the whole idea is that there's this drop down at the top of both of them it shows you the different modules that are available so on the bim 360 side you've got project home you've got insight which is all around your reporting functionality being able to produce reports out of this of you know how many issues have come up issues of certain types issues a certain assigned to certain individuals those kind of things are all reports you can get out of it document management really on both sides but there's document management here we call docs or docs on the acc side is really the heart of both platforms this is the file repository this is where everything lives this is where you guys create your own folder structure you set up templates that you can have for project after project that has that folder structure in it your firms can have multiple different templates for different project types it's really up to you it's meant to be flexible for a reason so we typically just start you off we give you a couple simple folders unless you start with a template and then of course it's it's exploding from there and really branching out into your directory trees that you've set up on the bim 360 side we've got the project management module which is really around rfis submittals meetings meeting minutes etc cost management module kind of self-explanatory there design collaboration where we're really going to focus today this is the module that gets turned on with abc pro this is your collaboration space this is where your shared and consumed models melissa i told you were going to get there this is where your shared and your consumed models uh end up inside of design collaboration it's your overall team timeline it's where you actually set up your team environments and we're going to get a little bit more into teams here in a little bit because i think they're critical to the overall workflow it's also over here so design collaboration the exact same module and it really is the same thing and looks almost identical other than you know just subtle ui differences between the two between acc and bim 360. model coordination on both sides of the fence right so that's where all of your clash happens that's where you can actually load up different models different views from the same model run clash sets against them understand what's happening in your models actually use it for model comparison to understand hey this is what i got from structural last week let me compare what you know what instructional update for this week i want to understand what all of their changes are we can use model coordination to do some of that as well on bim 360 we have field management which is really that build piece over here it's the build tool so that's a subtle difference between the acc platform and the bim 360 platform over here we have assets this is our was our where we're getting into actually defining asset data to get into facilities maintenance and operations you don't see that over here it's actually built in a build is that whole assets kind of thing and then if you are either a if you are one or both your if you're an account admin typically you're you're a project admin so if you are those things you will see these different gears here and of course depending on who you are when you log in you may or may not see all of these modules on either side because the administrator has the ability to turn these things on or off for individuals so you may log in and you may only see project home document management and design collaboration and not see any of the other uh the modules that are out there okay so hopefully that starts to make sense of kind of like what's going on between the two uh uh platforms as a question already about a reset if you erase or re erase the shared folder we're gonna get into that here in a little bit yeah because jeffrey and i talked about that ahead of time like people do that because when you go in in the first place in design collaboration and you start the teams the one thing it does the moment you make a team is it makes some folders for you it actually makes a shared folder and underneath that shared folder it reduces the folders for all of your team names and we should talk a little bit about teams what are teams teams again are flexible i think at the you know kind of first blush the way we like to think about them is your consulting team so it's the architect mechanical engineer it's the electrical engineer maybe we lump those all together in mep it's structural it's maybe civil because we do have some civil workflows going on between civil 3d and bim 360 or the autonomous construction cloud now but once you get those teams set up you'll see that shared folder and then you'll also see underneath your own team folder a consumed folder which again we're going to get into what all of that means here in a little bit but that's all kind of the project setup um can you revert back yes so nothing ever really ever gets truly deleted out of our cloud um rather than saying acc bim 360 over and over again just if i say bim 360 realize i'm probably meaning both platforms so i don't explain that over and over again but if you delete something out typically it just goes into a container if you are an admin there is restore functionality it allows you to bring stuff back so if you did delete that shared folder there is a way to bring it back you can also and it knows where it was where it came from so it'll go where it came from and have all the same rules and whatnot that i have and even if you rename stuff it actually doesn't really matter so much because what's actually going on behind the scenes in in the cloud is that all of these folder contents have their own guid they have their own unique id with them so they always understand what that container was no matter kind of what you did with it at some point so i i have a question i think that that will will maybe help help folks uh again visualize uh the whole team's concept um if you add so maybe walk through the process of adding a member real quick sure um and and and and then how the sort of the difference between adding a member versus adding a member to the team and sort of that whole thing because i think that'll help people who maybe haven't done the setup part uh to see sort of you know what it is that you're talking about and i also have a question while you're doing that that may end up being a little in the weeds but it's something that uh has frustrated me recently so maybe maybe you'll have an answer for it or maybe it's your way things are so what i've done is i've actually switched over to bim 360 it's just yeah i can show you i think for the sake of but yeah i think for the sake of for the sake of demonstration i would imagine that staying in bim 360 for today is probably okay considering most people are probably still in in this ui probably still here maybe yeah yeah throw in the chat are you guys you know if you're if you're using acc only let us know if you're primarily still in bim 360 let us know that too in the chat no no for sure awesome so what i've done here is i've actually switched over into a bim 360 project in this tab and go back to that if we need to and i've gone into project admin so you can only add new members if you are a project administrator or an overall account administrator so there's a few tabs along the top once you're in project admin members companies services where i'm currently at which is our teams we're going to get back there in a moment and our overall profile so our ad members i come into the members tab itself let that switch over and then i can start to add a person i can add them by name if they are already part of the overall account meaning that a an account administrator has already added them or i can add them by email address if they're actually not in our system yet so it actually tells you right here enter the name or enter the email address so like i could go um let's say so i know that like my co-worker andre is already in here so i can grab him and just start typing out part of his name and it comes up and actually tells me oh andre is already in this project all right well i don't need him so that i can come in here and go maybe it's dustin so i can start to bring it oh look he's already everyone's going to be in the project they're all reasonable yeah so but if i went uh jeffrey dot i'm not going to be able to spell this right let me see did i do it yeah i did yeah you did all right okay at revit kid i'm not going to add you to my project because this is our internal test project but you know if i did that oh you know so i just did a little i just did a little faux pas so here's the thing that you know just to be aware of when you get done typing the email address i just simply clicked off of it and it all went away you physically have to hit that stupid return button hit the return comma i think does it too right yeah or a comma does it as well right i've done that and then it's going to come over here and it's going to say you know add to project this button becomes active i hit select because i can actually put comma separated names in here and add a bunch of people at the same time then it comes in and says basically oh okay well what company are these people with so i could come in and say you know jeffrey's with uh just say the revit kid so you're with your own company or i could say scott's with autodesk and i could add them in and then i could give them a role right so roles are really important in the cloud platform as well because roles can define what level of access you get right off the bat by your role do you get assigned model coordination are you in that module are you in the design collaboration module automatically by by default because your role is design team member or project architect or project engineer so roles are really important so real quickly my my unofficial account has maybe maybe almost a 50 50 between 360 and acc maybe maybe 360 wins by a couple percentage points but honestly uh it looks like it's fairly even more acc than i thought which is kind of cool also paul alvin said he can you can add him to the to the project if you want oh yeah oops what did i do hit enter in between there somewhere you must have at and it's paula aubin paulauben.com right paul i think it might just be paul paulvin.com oh that's probably it anyway so i'm screwing up i'm not going to take too long trying to add paul to my project here but you go through that process you add the person you give them their their their um who they're with what you know what company with you give them their role hit go that now adds them to the project and this actually comes up a lot because i get this question okay i added somebody the project and now they've tried to go into revit they don't see the project yet right in design collaboration it's because then you have to add them to a team as well because the way that design collaboration works is to actually set up and configure and add people to teams which then gives them automatically certain permissions in that directory stack in bim 360 docs or autodesk stocks okay so my question since we're at this part of it is how or why is there not a way to pick a team when you're adding a member to the project great question i'm gonna jot that one down go back because it drives me absolutely nuts when i'm setting up a project and adding you know 15 members and then having to go to teams and now remember those 15 members and and add them to whatever team it was you know through the drop down and blah blah blah blah there should just be a column in the ad members where you just assign teams to these members while you're adding them just yeah yeah i'm assuming it's not there by your reaction so that's why i wanted to bring it up because it's just it's not there you guys i mean as customers you guys have a ton i've had so many great suggestions of how we could simplify just overall user management in the cloud platform there's a lot of things i think that we we can do and still need to do there and that's absolutely one of them like i just added a member just throw them on a team right away so i mean like if you have cloud collaboration or cloud work sharing turned on that should be an automatic thing if you don't have it turned on because you can use bim 360 docs without having cloud work sharing right you don't have to have abc pro right you can have a docs only license and just kind of have project access not to mention not to mention you can't um even if you were only using design model coordination you need to be on a team to join a coordination space yeah so regardless of whether using design collaboration it's pretty important to add members to teams to use all the applications to some extent right so being able to do that right off the bat is huge but but i think that's important step for people to know is that pretty much uh the the the the process of adding a member is adding a member assigning permissions or roles slash permissions kind of same thing and then also adding them to a team or multiple teams within within the platform and then that that can unlock model coordination and consumption celebration all that stuff people who maybe haven't set up the projects probably have never even seen that you know they might have just used a project that someone else set up so i think that's huge it's a huge segue and it will take us down to rabbit hole but i'll mention because sean mentioned if you use forge dot dot so yes forge is the language is the is the programming access that's behind the scenes of everything in the cloud so if you use forge there are things you can do one of the forge apis is basically an api for administration so you could use that to you know set up teams add users you know do all kinds of things using that forge api when you get me on another call down the road someday then we'll we'll talk all about forge yeah so now here i am i'm in project admin i'm in the services tab and i'm in the design collaboration kind of sub tab of that realize that where you are here me personally i don't think this ui is the greatest because it's not very clear of kind of where you are other than this very kind of subtle highlighting but i can i can be in services and i can go to you know project admin services for document management or project admin services for design collaboration where i'm at now or model coordination and each one of these kind of switches then this main screen around again not not not great ui not like perfectly just it's also it's also you know an area and that's why it's i'm not you know other than the efficiency of adding the the the teams while you're doing it you know i'm okay with this because it's more of an admin portal right so most you know ideally only only people who who are the ones setting these things up are living in this ui it's kind of one of those like hiding revit button things but at the same time yes it is the first or second use it is a little iffy it's a little iffy so now we're an ad we're in either add a new team which can then you can define and in this case we've got this kind of architectural model civil models in this particular project and again it's flexible you can call these teams anything you want they can be internal teams it can be our interiors team it can be our landscape team it can be our civil team inter in you know in a kind of full service a e firm these can be all different consultant teams interior and you know exterior meaning outside organizations it's all up to you how you want to define what these things are so i can add a new team but if i want to add a member to a team these little guys are all in blue are hyperlinks again not perfect ui but if i needed to add somebody to access to models architectural models i come to members i clicked little 10 now it pops up a resulting dialog box now i can come in here and i could come back in and i could type one of my member names from this list grab somebody out of that you can also enter people by role or by company so i could say like you know all people with the document management role you know have these basic rights to this folder that's called architectural models that's part of cloud work sharing right and you can actually do this by company as well and it gives you a little hint here that you can say my roles my companies are by individuals most people today still do this on an individual basis like they're individual giving individual names now in my sample project that i have here this is all internal autodesk people every single one of these people has full folder rights meaning like basically admin writes that folder by default everybody gets a view only or read which i believe is the first two kind of blue dashes here and that's all you really need to get into using uh design collaboration is just that kind of basic level of permissions i would not go through and assign everybody the full kind of folder rights of the full admin level control to these folders okay so you'd add them in they get over here they get those rights and then at that point now you're off and running but a lot of people miss that step they'll go and i added the user they don't have access you have to add them to the team or to multiple teams as well maybe maybe your firms are set up where somebody works on architectural but they also work on civil at the same time so you need to make sure they're in both of those teams at the same time okay okay all right so this is cool because we're we're we're running through the steps of setting up a work shared project and using design collaboration so first step is adding the member well everybody has a cocktail it's after dark i actually just i just emptied mine already it's only it's gonna quarter up man i gotta come to the water now oh my gosh we're 42 minutes in already i should have brought i should have brought the bottle downstairs i left it upstairs the uh so so this is great though so you know adding members is an important step obviously but then taking the steps that you just talked about so add the member add their correct role add them to a team add their permissions now we can jump into design collaboration correct now when you go into rabbit so this is rabbit 2022 now when they get here and they actually go to open revit you're going to get to the revit home screen you know this all got redesigned a couple of years ago and it's gone through a couple iterations now we have both recent files and you have autodesk docs now to me this is another thing that's a little bit of a misnomer if you're in revit 2022 i'm actually in point one here make sure you're on it's so here's the other thing make sure and it's not it's not uh 100 uh necessary but it is like 99.9 percent recommended that everybody is on the same point release with within a project right once they are seeing the version you're saying the version and the point release yeah so the version should be enough but i think it's easy enough to go the step further go the point release that just assures that everybody's on the exact same thing um we don't physically have to assume that that's more pertinent to like 20 21 and 22 because the point prices are so big whereas like 18 19 you're probably talking security and you know yeah you know web patches and stuff it might be a little different but that yeah the the the features for the point releases were basically new software almost at that point in time so i can see yeah that may make it and i believe it's still true today the point releases only give us uh any kind of update that does not affect file format because there are things that we have to change that actually affect rvt the file format those things even if they're ready let's say um now for the next point release won't go in until this the uh well the northern hemisphere spring spring time march april ish depending on when revit 2023 is released those things that affect file format change don't go into effect until that actually happens but that's a great that's auto point that's good to know a lot of good things so this time you're getting everyone on the same version now you want us to get on the same version and the same point yes but so be on the same version but this autodesk docs is a little bit of a misnomer because some people are like well where's my bim 360 projects they're right here we just changed the label this is access to all projects bim 360 or acc it doesn't matter so just be aware of that at this little link over here so depending on where you're at you're in the project and then obviously you browse through you find out where your particular file is that you want to open in this particular case um we set up a sample project and buried this thing way too many way too many levels deep during folders for demos it doesn't make any sense but that's all right too i think it's under models and then you get to the file that you physically actually want to open and there we are and now i can just simply click on this and we can up we can we can open it but before we do that we can actually go through and do a couple other things one is that you can check off one or multiple files here and publish them right so publishing is a big part of the whole entire cloud platform because what you're doing in revit cloud work sharing is not immediately apparent in the cloud platform when you're on the web browser a lot of people think i hit sync with central then i go to you know docs.autodesk.com and that model should be updated it's not right it's not looking at sync with central's it's only looking when you're ready to actually go present that information out to your 360 site because maybe the client is part of that bim360 site you're not ready to go share some of those kind of design changes with them yet so it's set up intentionally that way that you physically had to say okay i'm now ready to publish i'm ready to take that information from revit and then go share it out with a larger community so uh that's great um i guess my quick question is for those who who aren't familiar with the the setup process to initially get the file up there so if you started with a blank revit file and you created the the central file for the rest of the world to use or your project to use um what does that process look like so if i'm if i'm on my machine i click file new new in revit and i draw a wall and then i go i want to create this now as a publish or a a work shareable central file what is that process okay so let's just go through that process here real quick so i can go into file i can go file new project and i can actually grab i don't have all of your templates i've got all the straight out of the box stuff so we'll grab the architectural template out of here and i'm in a non-work shared not even local project yet because it's not even saved right so the moment i get into this i will have to physically save this before it could go live anywhere else so there it is the revit start screen since version 1.1 which is level one and four elevations right right out of the box and so if i physically go and save this now somewhere and i can just quickly drop this on my computer and i'll throw it on my desktop somewhere just for for giggles we'll call it after dark and save it so now it's a viable file it actually has a real name now what i wanted to do is actually initiate that into the cloud i need to set it up as a work shared revit cloud work shared file and it's actually a point because and sometimes the model that the version years of rev it all blur to me i believe it was 2020 or 2021 we also released this idea that you can have a revit cloud model different than a revit cloud work shared model right so i can have a standalone revit file that's not work shared that's part of a bim360 project and can be linked into other files and treated kind of the same way but it's not work shared it's just a single file an individual is working on it we don't need it work shared it's it's just a site file or you know whatever the case may be and then of course you have revit cloud work shared files i need five 10 20 people all working on the same file at the same time revit cloud work shared so in order to initiate that now i go to the collaborate tab and i come to the collaborate button which if it's not already shared will say collaborate if uh if it is already shared it kind of goes away and it just shows this part of the dialog box for this part of the ribbon where it just says work sets right so we're going to go to collaborate it's going to say what do you want to do do you want to collaborate locally do you want to just do a normal you know old school revit work sharing on my local area network or do i have a work share in the cloud so if i choose in the cloud pick okay the next thing it's going to do is it's going to spool up and say okay well where do you want it because we don't we can't read your mind we don't know where you want this project at what's it a part of what account is it part of what project is it a part of so it's going to go and basically open up my bim360 slash acc project site allow me to then to browse to a particular project to an account to a project to a folder here's all my different kind of accounts that i have i can go to so if i go to change account i've got a bunch so we can go into this this one called autodesk construction and then i could come down in here and say that this is part of oh one of these maybe not we'll just pick i'll just pick this uh autobahn project for the moment um of course i picked one of the full an empty folder but anyway i would browse to the right location where this folder needs to go into my team folder right so i'm the architect so i want to browse and find that team folder that was set up for the architect and i want to initiate that project into that particular space click save it's going to go through it's going to bring up a dialog box which is your kind of normal sync with central dialog box that says syncing with central saving to the cloud syncing locally that's another point on this so local file creation in bim 360 and acc and in fact really all of you know design collaboration online or revit cloud work sharing online local files are created for you but they're created automatically and they're actually hidden from view a lot of you guys are much more advanced you already know this you can go find them they are in the user profile they're not named any they're actually named with a guid they're not named like however you named your file so you can go find them if you need to but they're hidden from uh typical end users for a reason right because you could do a lot of damage if you actually go out and start messing with those particular files that are there so creates a local file for you and then from that point forward all you're really doing is just going and opening from the revit home screen a file and going to work so we go back here and if i want to open this one in particular i just click on it i don't have to worry is that the local is that the central file is it something i need to work on no it's that's the file i'm just going to click on it i'm going to go to work now it's actually opening that for me and you can actually while that opens see there's a lot of other information here it is a work shared cloud model this might just say a revit cloud model lets me know when it was last modified who was modified by what the published status is of course live on a demo that's being recorded for all prosperity it's got an error right something happened in publishing that it didn't didn't uh update correctly and then who was last published by is all information here and then some additional information this little ellipses here at the end allows us to do things like audit upon open or in you know future versions of rabbit there's actually going to be some uh some additional kind of functionality on these little ellipses over here so p pay attention this is actually something important for you guys as well so the revit cloud model versus the workshared cloud model would that be that'd be something you just uploaded directly to it uh not not using any so if you just created a revit file and you uploaded the rev file to that just becomes a revit cloud model because there's no work sets and work sharing yeah is that is that is that what it is so so you're working with a not a local file i guess i should say you're working with a non-work shared file that just lives on the cloud is that is that sort of yeah in order to do that what we have to do is actually use the save as functionality under file right so if i want a non-work shared file i just go to file save as oops let me get there again cloud model right and now it's going to go through that kind of same process what project was this a part of and then you go through the same thing what doesn't show up in revit the revit dialog box is if you go back into either bim 360 or acc and go back into docs right so if i go into document management at the top of document management is an upload button so if i just simply go in there and hit that upload button and start uploading rvts and then open revit and expect them to show up there they're never going to show up there got it right they're not part of either a revit cloud model or a revit cloud work shared model so they don't show up in that environment here's that upload button i was just talking about yep awesome awesome oh thanks paul actually says that's the first time he's ever seen an error in that column thanks paul i appreciate that only only when you're going live right you know that you record how many demos and it only it fails when you you're like three hours into a recording and then boom there it is right that's it yep you got to pre-record some of this that's all absolutely absolutely awesome okay so so so let's maybe just to reiterate the steps so far we added a member we added uh we added the role we added them to a team we added the permissions now we're in revit we create a file we publish it or sorry we don't publish we collaborated collaborated right and now we're working so now we we collaborated it whether we're in that file now we went to the home screen and opened that file now we're in a cloud work shared revit model right you got it and let me get there this file was not the one i wanted to be in let me get into uh residence hall why why are you doing that there was a question i don't want to miss um that scott scott valentine asked i think i think when you were talking about the um location of the local files if it'd be nice if there was the ability to change that default location um because of it filling up c drives you know uh instead of like a drive which makes sense because you know that's an old-school revit right you you can change your your local your local file uh saving locations absolutely chew it up so i don't know absolutely the ability to but uh if we look at that so i'm gonna go out and look at if you guys don't know about this already so there's actually the revit road map that's out there it's a trello board for those that know about trello so i can copy and paste this link into the chat you guys can all have it this is a publicly facing website that the revit pms all go to and actually post information into so um i'm not signed in at the moment i'll have to sign in but anyway so here's sasha crotty she's one of the revit pms you know talking a little bit about this board there's all kinds of stuff here you know stuff that's already out stuff that was released in 2022.1 and then upcoming features for everyone for architecture for structural engineers not to belabor this but one of those things is in this list of kind of like the overall what's upcoming is the ability to actually physically change that location of where those files are stored so you can move them off of c users maybe you have your user profile and a d drive or you know some of the location so it's definitely something we're working towards awesome and it does look like aaron aaron mahler's got a some sort of a command prompt thing that he might have actually been able to do it with so we won't go down that road but uh uh before we move on there was actually all there's a whole different i mean mueller's got stuff yeah yeah yeah that's why i said we won't go down that road right now i could probably have aaron and come on and we could do a one hour episode on how to do that right aaron totally the um so so joe joe actually had a great question here um which is what's the storage limit on on a cloud project yeah great question so uh i've never even had that before there is no storage limit you guys can have as much data in a project or in as many projects as you want because as i said like i'm in a a particular account here this particular account is called ts design and i've got this many projects currently today you guys have an account you can have 500 projects in it and they can all be 20 terabytes each we don't care and then the thing is is you can store not only your revit file your revit data but anything else that you might want to get access to there so pdfs cut sheets autocad files sketchup files non-autonomous stuff and we view this stuff too like maybe you guys don't know this if you throw sketchup files in a bim360 project you can click on an skp and it'll come up in the viewing window you don't have to open sketchup in order to go see a sketchup file or a microstation ggn file if you're working with maybe a civil consultants and in microstation right so all those things add to that to add to that one of the features and one of the reasons why we're pushing this really hard now on all of our job sites on the construction side is um is giving model access or not in model access file access to our field staff who normally wouldn't normally they'd reach out to my team and be like hey can you open the sketch a file can you open this microstation file can you open this cad file and like make a pdf of it now i'm just telling them upload it to here because we already have it and you can view you know there's very few file types that i've seen that you can't view at least within within document management so so that's awesome and then i also when you said when you said unlimited i was i was remembering the um one of the aus or one of the keynotes about infini infinite computing um yeah and so somebody else what's a single file size limit there is no limitation of file size and can you store drone videos yes you can store them um point cloud data from drones is something that we're working towards you can store uh recap files rcs files here all day long you can store other point cloud data lasers lis files here all day long the the system does not yet view those inside of the platform yet but it's definitely something we're working towards so those are coming soon and being able to link those things to your revit files and other sources is something they're working towards as well one thing that is live today if you do have point cloud data that was from let's say a uh a blk 360 or a lot of the other scanners obviously do the the photo bubbles rather than seeing the actual point cloud you'll see the 360 spherical photos inside the viewer from the point cloud and you can jump from from bubble to bubble to bubble and move around the space that way rather than trying to you know manipulate manipulate your way through the actual point cloud itself yeah and we know those files are huge that's that's another challenge with point cloud data in the cloud yep somebody mentioned ifc and you can view ifc's but you can't use ifc's in uh in model coordination yet yeah you can sorry i know i have yeah but there's still only ones created by autodesk software uh they have to be created they have to be created in audit software or they have to be with the there's an ifc compliant writer that others can use uh to do those things but yeah they're they're out there yeah they're getting there that's good yeah we have actually we've also used um just for anyone who's looking to use point cloud data a lot um we've also just converted them to meshes you know depending on what point cloud software you're using fbx or something like that called you know export it as a mesh if you're just viewing um because you know honestly the point cloud the mesh is probably more useful in this platform than a point cloud would be anyways as far as just flipping around so the way we've gotten around that a little bit um is is you know having creating the meshes from the point clouds question real quick i just saw eric just popped it what what's a trello board so trello is like a way of organizing data yes that is that link i posted is public information that is the revit public road map that is and i'll put the links i'll put the link in the description as well after the video and everything everything's out there and the stuff that we're working towards is all published in that trello board so if you guys want to get a heads up of what's coming up in the next versions of revit everything is posted in that particular board um i know we're getting really close guys i can go way over i can continue to talk for a while if you guys want to stick around with me tonight but one thing i wanted to point out because i got status error here again uh let's talk about the elephant in the room uh what happened uh what a couple days ago yep um massive outage like two years ago my alexa didn't work my packages didn't get delivered bluebeam didn't work i heard there was a whole bunch of stuff so amazon web services that we use for all of us cloud stuff had a pretty significant uh meltdown at some point i don't know exactly what happened that affected bim360 acc and a whole host of other things non-autodesk um what that did on our end was uh as you guys are publishing out stuff is being published at a at a phenomenal rate there is stuff being published like every second of every day now uh in the background when that service went down it produced a huge backlog so basically our instances of aws that are spooled up to do the publishing are in massive catch-up mode and we've said max it out at this point trying to catch up so we are seeing some still status errors we're seeing some publishing slow downs and some other things and that's just all playing catch up from this this outage that we had earlier in the week so i just want to make as aware of that awesome all right let's continue through the process of of using this cloud work sharing just so that um you know we at least hit that even though these are all fantastic conversations yeah let's do it all right so um open the project here i think i might have already had this one open and so then there's something really important so once you're inside of a project let me just go to kind of a normal 3d view here there's a couple things that are really important about the overall processing of this data back out to your cloud site and it's all under the collaborate tab i just i went to a 3d view so you can see the model rather than the starting page here i don't know something i do so as soon as that stops spinning maybe i can get to my collaborate tab here when i get to collaborate tab there's a couple of uh icons that i want to make you aware of one is manage cloud models and then the other one is the publish settings so the publish settings actually in every revit file is actually pretty big um imagine if you will if you go back to that bim360 site i was out a little while ago and there's that upload button there so if you just simply upload a file to a bim360 site and you don't have anything in the the publish settings dialog box to find all that it does is spits out the 3d model but even in that simply uploaded file not a cloud model not a cloud work shared model but even in that simply uploaded model if you go into publish settings and you have a set or sets defined so up at the top of the list here is your sets this is the exact same ui and in fact the exact same kind of programming language that you find in export and print so if you're in the print dialog box and you go to new and you make a new print set called 50 review and you add some sheets to it and save it it will show up here as well it's the exact same interface and vice versa if i make something here and then go to print it will show up there as well so if you have a set and it's identified and it's checked off and it's got some sheets and some views and you hit save and close whether i publish it or i upload it directly to a bim 360 or an acc site that is what is going to to get processed and get published out so in this case it's a set called bulletin one i can i can check off multiple of these things all at the same time i can create new ones i can delete them i can rename them there's all kinds of things that you can do here you can also see what isn't included so i can come down here and say you know all views and sheets in the model which is then going to re-organize this kind of list down here and you're going to see that some stuff is checked off and some stuff is not because in that case now i've got some things in this list that are part of that particular set wow lots of things so some things are part of that set and other things are not so you can tell like oh you know i wanted to include the enlarged plan east stairs first floor in that set as well and i could check that off and add it to this particular set called bulletin one couple things you want to do here is you want to make sure you go save and close and then oops that's my home printer i don't sure why that's popping up my home laserjet and you also want to make sure you do a sync with central because this setting has to live with that central file in the cloud because that's actually what is going to be used in the publishing of those files when you publish a mouse you don't have to have a local file open to publish you know it's going to use the central file on the cloud it's going to grab those settings and that's what it's actually going to publish out to bim 360 as a name set those are the sheets and the views and the 3d models that you're going to see awesome so so so you sync to central it saves those settings so now um you know let's talk i guess a little bit so this is great now we have a central file where um you know we're working we're doing our thing we're saving a central as as just like it would be a normal central file that we're all used to back in the day so let's talk about publishing so what what what why and what is publishing and maybe we you know just trying to work through the process of a user for for everyone i appreciate that yeah so the very first time that you go over to that collaborate tab and you go to that button over here that said collaborate and you choose to collaborate in the cloud what it's going to do again is going to create a central file it's going to make a local file in your local cache and then it's going to make sure from that point forward that those two things are always kept up to date so you don't have to ever worry about local files again do i delete local files do i rename them do i need to make a new one in fact you know revit's really kind of taken care of that over the last few releases anyway but you don't have to worry about that that part of it anymore the other thing it's going to do in the bim 360 side of things is that you'll see that file appear inside of bim 360. so in case i go here and i go into my design work in progress inside of bim 360 and i go into architectural team again buried way too deep for demo purposes okay so here's that particular file the very first time you do it this will say v2 it's version two that's the other thing with bim360 and acc is that every time i republish it's going to version control this for you and keep track of all those different versions it's never going to overwrite a previous version it's always going to keep them there for history and it's also going to allow you to go back and revert to any current version if you ever need to in the future so there's the ability to come in here and either copy one of these files make it a more current version download the source file if i wanted to know what happened back in version one i could download that source file open it up as a local copy you know see what happened back at that particular point in time in history so by default the very first time you initiate the project you go to collaborate you say i want to collaborate in the cloud it throws a file up here and then it publishes it and it does it twice in the past i would go to kyle bernhardt and say why and he explained it to me at one point and then i forget why he said it did it but it needed to make two versions of it because one was actually the saving of the file and the next one was actually when it published out so it publishes out your first set for you from that point forward in order to keep this file in the cloud if you're using a browser up to date now you have to publish it right so publishing can be done from a couple different places i already showed you from revit that it can be done from the revit home screen so if i come here come in and check off a box or if i had multiple files here check off multiple boxes i can hit the publish button it can also be done from one of the most horrible dialog boxes i think in revit history and i'm not going to click on it it's this one that says manage cloud models i've been told that in revit 2023 this is getting a major overhaul and i don't know any more information at this point but manage cloud models has another uh ability to browse your projects and then it's got these little little tiny icons that show up that you can only see if you actually hover over the name of the file it basically lets you know whether they need to be published or not that you can click on and a third location is actually from within design collaboration so when i head back over into bim 360 go into design collaboration from this particular location in my team view there's a couple different ways one is that i can say update to latest there's a ui that's going to be over here on the right side when this loads up here in a second why am i in a project that has absolutely no data huh that's always fun let's go to a different project here um oh that sorry i just i'm going to switch over it just switched to an acc project i told you i was going to stay in bim 360 the whole time it's the same interface anyway save some time so when this loads up um design collaboration and there we go so a couple things this will give me a list of the the the sets that i have created so these are the names of the sets that came out of revit that we just talked about there's an update to latest which is publish why didn't we just call this publish or make them the same they they're the this call to the api that controls it is a publish so this is the publish button says update to latest you can also schedule publishing so right now this project or this this teams set of projects these particular sets are going to update every day every week on friday at 1500 hours locally so my time is set up for pacific time zone uh i believe that that is what it's going to use because my project is set up for pacific time zone i've also been told that uh the absolute worst time to publish is on friday afternoons uh at 1500 specific design zone uh time zone yeah because that's kind of like i don't know everybody hits hits friday afternoon and and uh does it then a better time is saturday morning at 2 a.m pacific the the servers that we're using from amazon's slide to do the publishing are doing far less at that particular time there are many other times pick any other day of the week uh at you know some ungodly hour of the morning and publish at that time rather than friday afternoons at five o'clock pacific okay so those are the different ways we can publish out you're also going to see some ui from time to time pop up like this one that says a new team has been discovered there's a little bit of ai going on in the background that's basically saying hey somebody made a new folder inside of bim360 we think it's a new team do you want to make it a new team or not so that's what this uh idea is that it's allowing you to say yeah these things are new teams and and you can go through that process and set those things up or not okay so so that's publishing just so just so people are you know clear um so when you're publishing is it clear i feel like i've been all over the place no no it's i'm again i'm trying to now you know figure out uh you know make it make it more clear how about that perfect i appreciate that yeah so pub so when you're hitting publish that's publishing it so it it's now the latest model viewable in all of these cloud applications it doesn't mean uh because when you when you initially think about it you're saying well wait a minute if i have to publish it that means i have to manually hit publish for other team members to view that if let's say you're working with 15 people in that same model that's not what we're talking about right we're talking about publishing so it's viewable for all the applications in the cloud this phantom central model that that that is doing all the working of the work sharing that yes those are two different things one of the questions from a while back which is kind of funny uh somebody asked uh so so where is the central model then if the published model's not the central model this is an essential model where is it it's it's it's there it's it's literally completely hidden from from end users it's it's part of the cloud site it has its own if you look at the url that's in these so here's a unique uh guid this is actually the project guid and at the end of this is actually if you're in a file there's a there's another guide not that one but if you go into a file it's actually the file guide there so there are some things going on behind the scenes so that central file literally lives on an amazon server somewhere is not exposed to us as end users at all except if you're live linking so now we're going to start get that discussion maybe jeffrey it's time i don't know yeah no let's do it let's jump no let's let's i do well minutes over our normally scheduled time it's all good it's perfect i think people are still into it and this is this is the meat of the meat of it that i really wanted oh my gosh i appreciate it so so so so we've set up the the central file um we're working let's say there's 10 of us working in the central file fine we're seeing live information just like a workshare file always would be daily manually whatever we're publishing it for for the the cloud applications as well correct and we don't need to get into this but as well as some other team members possibly but um but let's so now links so so let's talk about live links because i am interested to to run through that for people yeah uh it's a huge cloud cloud workshare model live link situation happens so let's let's maybe run through that perfect all right so in revit with design collaboration there are three ways with which you can link files in revit and you're not exclusive in a project to any single one of them in fact you can have what i call mixed media so the three ways are live linking that's literally central file to central file so jeffrey and i are working he hit sync with central i come into my model and and you know maybe i get the little indicator that he's done something and i go into manage links and i highlight his file and i hit reload bam i see his changes what i'm not going to see is any work sharing environment as as jeffrey's working i'm not seeing walls and windows and doors and things floating around in the background right that's it's not quite that real time and i think that we do that on purpose because that would get really annoying like it does it yeah have you guys all been editing an excel spreadsheet or a word document at the same time i've done that like through office 36 yeah google sheet and everybody's cursors pop up and things are flying yeah i don't i don't think we want that interest some restriction is good yes yes yeah some restrictions definitely good so live linking is then hey we trust each other enough that i know you're working away i'm working away i want to see your changes i'll call it almost live because i either have to reopen the file or i have to go to manage links and reload those links in order for those things to show up okay the second methodology is what we call shared linking right so shared linking puts the responsibility on one of the other teams the other team says hey we are at some point a project milestone an agreed-upon timeline whatever it happens to be or we're just we're just ready to go share we're ready to go share some information with the other team members slash consultants okay so maybe it's architectural we're to some point i'm ready to push that information i'm ready to transmit it however you want to say it over to the structural engineers so they can start acting on it right it gets us away from that that whole idea of live linking of architect does something structural engineer goes and reacts architect changes their mind which never happens right but you know and and then you know you're playing what we call whack-a-mole back and forth with each other so this idea is hey i'm ready to go share it so what ends up happening with the share is a couple things have to happen one is that you need to have your sets set up from revit so you need to be in your collaborate tab where we just were you need to be in your published settings and you need to either have a set or multiple sets come up and this leads us down to the to the whole model coordination future conversation because obviously we're out of time for all of that today but one set is definitely beneficial to be a coordination set it contains different information that you want out for model coordination than it does with the what you're sharing with your consultants but so i need to have my sets set up i need to then publish the sets right so again i can do those a couple of different ways i can come here and publish them and then i need to bundle up those things and this is where we get into package creation and i need to bundle those things up to be able to then share them with the other team members the other disciplines however you have that data set up and organized this is where we end up back into this operation so once the model has been to some point you've sync with central you've set up a set or sets you've published them out they've processed and in fact they don't have to in order to actually bundle them up into a package i don't even think they have to go through the full processing because processing is just making them viewable and you don't necessarily have to make them viewable in order to bundle them into a package but the package creation is let me do that one more time i was good right right i was gonna say hold on pause because this part right here is someone in ui ux design failed miserably in my opinion because i can't tell you the first time i ever used this how much of an idiot i felt like when when someone finally showed you here's the three freaking buttons that you can can i change my cursor make it bigger make it red highlight this any different so this is part of the ui this little guy right here right so this little guy drops down uh your team timeline and by default it always opens up into this view which is basically you your team and then a kind of combined environment which says shared which is then kind of a culmination of all the other teams and if you expand it twice now it expands that shared out into kind of all the other disciplines so to speak right so you can see all of them expand out now for those that may not be able to see this this is literally a calendar that says april may june july august september etc uh it tells me right here that the timeline from this point at the very beginning 3 30 21 until 10 20 10 19 2021 which is the kind of last activity notice it's not current date it's actually last activity is a span of seven months you can expand or contract this timeline by grabbing these grips on either side of this if you're in a shortened timeline there are kind of play and fast forward buttons over here that allow you to skip down the road and you can see now that i'm down to 24 days this calendar is now labeled in weeks week 13 14th week 15th week et cetera et cetera so it's uh it's literally like a dynamic calendar that shows you what's happening the uh the packages that you have i'm sorry the sets see there i go i'm already screwing up the nomenclature it's super easy to do the sets that you're publishing out will show up on this timeline and again why am i in a this project is supposed to have all of this information in it let me let me switch projects here to a different project here that hopefully has some stuff in it this is where i really wanted to be there we go all right so some some symbology so now this particular project is set up and you see little round symbols you see some square symbols uh you see this guy which is kind of roundish square and there's some numbers so there's actually a chart at the help the autodesk help site for this that explains all of the symbology but it's pretty simple to understand the square stuff is when you've actually created a set and published it the round things are things that have been shared out as packages if you go to your particular team you can see that there's some expansion going on here so the bottom of the architectural team i can expand this out and then scroll down so now it breaks it out into kind of two lines things that have been actually packaged up and shared and then other things that have just been published the little nomenclature little numbers basically say in this span of eight months in this time frame these two squares are too close together to display so either shrink your timeline or just simply click on one of these things and then now it says within a 19 hour time span the pacific center az rvt model was published here and then also published again here right so kind of giving you an idea of what has happened always keeping a record history for you of what has happened in this pack in this uh in this project or this rbt file along the way okay all that makes sense so far all right so recap again revit file it's in the cloud i've created sets i've sync with central i've hit the publish button in one of the kind of thousand different ways that you can publish out a file the published version of that has shown up as being published on my team timeline and now i'm ready to go share that out that's where this little piece of iconography right here make sure it's really clear very very right hand side again not super discoverable it's a plus symbol if i hover over it says create a new package so i'm going to click that plus creating a new package to share this is the same thing as let's go way back and let's say there was you know barely email at that point or ftp sites and i was i was grabbing all of my autocad files to send to my structural engineer so right now what i'm doing i'm attaching them to an email that i'm going to transmit to my structural engineer so he can get my latest backgrounds that's the best way i think to describe this is that this whole idea of package creation is sharing is bundling up a set of backgrounds that i want to go share with somebody else okay so now that i'm there uh there's a couple things i can do one is i can leave this as the default name right now it's called something complicated there's a little edit icon i just simply click in here and now i can rename this anything i want i can call this weekly share now a lot of people have the uh the idea that i should go ahead and throw like 12 8 21 on there or some date but guess what er it's not even eight it's the ninth i'm wrong already see that's where that's where manual data entry gets you back so it was created on 12 9 all of this stuff is date stamped and author stamped for you so there's really no need to do that you can call it anything you want so i'm going to call it weekly share and then i have to choose what do i want to share well of course i want to set because we published out something from from revit but i can scroll down this list and i can come down and i can say you know what besides that set this particular project only has one revit file but i could say you know what besides this one building i also need to share the site file i also need to share this other building so i can check off multiple models that i want to share this one was automatically included because it knows it's part of that set that i picked off here and i can also choose to include some documents so maybe i want to send a set of pdfs that's my specification or a word document or excel spreadsheet or whatever it happens to be it's all of the stuff that you're packaging up that you want to physically send or you know share with uh with somebody else that's part of the project okay once you get done with that you're gonna hit save it saves that package as a name and then i can come over here and i can just simply hit share and it's then going to push it out and what that's going to do is it's going to dump those files that you specify in a shared folder under your discipline under the other disciplines folders so if i was the architect sending this to structural structural and their team has a shared folder and underneath that has an architectural folder it's going to pop it in there for me okay a couple other things you can do here is i i want to kind of see what did i send structural last time and what did i send them this time so i'm not going to go into this it would take a while to do it but i can compare so it's physically going to show me the drawings and the models and it's going to color code all of the changes that i've made since the last time i shared this package with the structural engineer to make sure like yeah did i did i pick up all the kind of things that i needed to and you could do that comparison right here okay so if i hit share again it's going to keep the same name i can add a much more detailed description we can come in and say that i want to add this to a particular document set this is a little different there are sets inside of bim 360 and then there are sets that come from revit this document set is an actual bim360 document set that you can name separately so we'll leave that alone for now i hit share and what it's doing right now is it's physically dumping those rvt files and the other things into the shared folder that i specified so now that shared linking we're going to go back into revit we're going to go back into manage links and what we want to do if i wanted to add a new link what i'm going to do is then wait for the add dialog box to pop up and i'm going to browse to that bim360 account that bim 360 project and then into my folder right now i'm an account admin so there's a little bit of a difference here if i if i browse in here and i go design work in progress and then i go architectural team and then i go into where is it architectural this and there's consumed we're gonna oh i'm sorry see i'm already taking this i got too far ahead of myself i gotta back up here a little bit i need to go into shared and then underneath shared i need to maybe go into the structural team because i know they shared something out of course it didn't mechanical team do i have more data in this model imagine if you will there was an rvt i pick on that rvt file the name pops up i open it i'm going to hit cancel it shows up here as a link it is you know by overlay or the attachment type it tells you its status if it's loaded or unloaded and then the saved path will actually say instead of a local path like a c drive it will say bim 360. or now in revit 2022 it says autodesk docs no matter if you're in a bim 360 project or an acc project it will always say auto to stocks and then the full path name and inside of that path name if i take this little uh bracket in between these guys and expand it out uh it will actually have shared in this folder path right now if you're working in revit 20 gosh somebody help me out paul aubin probably knows 2019 or earlier maybe it was 2020 and earlier this saved path was actually i'll call it broken and did not display shared and or consumed pathing correctly right so um oh my gosh unless i'm reading your comments anyway so um so in revit 2021 and revit 2022 this path is correct in older versions of revit your save path is uh may or may not say the correct thing so just be aware of that in the in the later versions of revit this path is correct okay so you can pass to a shared folder click ok i'm going to click cancel because i'm not adding anything now i'm linked to shared okay now the next time structural makes some changes they sync with central they republish their set they make a new package and they re-share it it goes right back into to the shared folder for structural version controls it and the next time i open revit or go into manage links if i happen to be in the file when they share it and do a reload uh reload or reload from boom now i see their changes and i don't see their changes until they actually make the sets publish the sets and make the package and share it okay make sense it makes sense so okay again to try to bring it down to some sort of use cases and reasons i ran into this stuff and how i sort of found may my way along along the way understanding this um i'm trying smaller so so this is oh my god comments are definitely after dark kind of comments or stark um so and youtube makes you check a box that says not safe for children so don't worry about it we're good the the uh so so i understand the use case here um really the use case i see when you're explaining this is right you're you're lim you're not you're limiting you're you're you're you're making it so that someone doesn't see your link unless you want them to it's correct right yep and that's fine um to me to me when i'm thinking in most design consultant and in that situation to me it seems like i can't think of very many situations where where you might not want to be live linked personally not to mention explaining it but but you know to me that's that's what we're breaking down the walls to do is the live link right if you're doing publishing we're going back to the old days of you know mep is a week behind architecture unless we publish it right sort of kind of so sure as maybe contractors subcontractors that kind of thing then i'm starting to see okay this makes sense so they you know the architect is moving a bunch of the instructional engineer is moving a bunch of so you know they may not want me as the contractor to see it until they click publish so that makes sense right so why the hell is consumed exist so now consumed we're gonna listen we're gonna get there so consumed is it is a two-way street right so the consumed methodology says uh sets need to be created sets need to be published a package needs to be created and shared but imagine i'm the architect and i know that and maybe this happens maybe structural is actually a week ahead of us and for some reason this friday we got to go to design review board i don't want to see structural changes yet in my set because we need to print by the end of the day friday i actually want to see structural changes go live on monday but we need a print set for friday without their changes so the consumed methodology allows you as the uh as the receiver to say yes you sent me some new stuff i'm gonna choose when i want that to go live in my revit session that's what consuming a package is all about there i said it melissa he said consume my package to some extent okay i did i did all right so does that so so what ends up happening it does make a little more sense so so okay what you're saying there is is by by using if if you were if you were using only the publish then by default your your you're letting the user who published their package uh control what you see in your link as opposed to consuming where you can say i don't want to consume this or i don't want this model to update into my link yet until i say i want to see it correct some extent and it also allows you to it also allows you to visualize these things prior to doing it so there is an advantage to to set creation publishing and sharing and or consuming and if you don't if you live link you kind of lose this ability the ability to actually understand what changes people have made the other teams the other consultants prior to actually having that stuff get sucked into your revit session if you're live linking it's live like it is what it is and there it is if the architect's pulled half the building off to space on the side and has made some changes hit sync with central structural and mechanical rails is going to see that stuff out to the side right and a shared methodology the architect can then clean all that stuff up we're going to get rid of that design study we did over here in space then we're going to go share it you know now it goes live intersections consumed is then they can they can say we're ready to share with you and then the receiving party can say okay we're ready to bring that in to our revit session so let's go look at this from like a structural standpoint so as an account administrator if i can go in here i can actually change my team so i just double clicked on this so now whatever's on the bottom of this team timeline is who you are and in fact it shows you right here that now i'm part of the structural team what i'm looking at now is that the architectural team has now made and shared a new package called weekly share that was shared today 12 9 20 21 and now i can go to that team timeline and i can pick on it and i can do a couple things one is i can do this these basically do the same thing one is just a more direct way one is to say go explore what they say go explore that package which is then gonna open up this weekly progress set show me the models show me the drawings i can obviously just like flipping through a set on the desk i can say what do they send me i can also go to the compare button which then brings up what did they send last and what did they send now and actually this is a brand new feature this just came out in the past it was always previous version versus most recent now you can come in and do a drop down that actually says actually i want to drop back a couple of other releases and compare what did they do three weeks ago to compare to what they just sent over to me so if we do last version versus this latest version we hit show changes this is going to literally overlay these models it's going to give me a change dialog box over here on the left it's going to color code red green and yellow things that have been deleted things that have been added and things that have been modified it's going to physically show me in the model where those things are when i click on them if they've been modified to some degree let's imagine a wall has been moved if i can click on it before click on it after it's going to animate and move from position a to position b a column change size i'm actually going to watch it grow right so i'm going to be able to physically see on the screen where these things happen now the model i did i'm sure does not have any changes i'm doing this so quickly so this is why it's taking a while to load this up it's comparing the versions but if i had a proper model loaded up it would color code it for me so um oh and paul just warned me this is just a very wonky earlier day yeah amazon aws outages is anyways yeah so this may not work properly today um but it will show you those physical changes on the screen so you know it's been a long time but i was a pm i used to be a project manager at wlc and one of my jobs way back in the day was to actually you know bundle this stuff up and send it out to consultants my role was to create a change log and produce a clouded set of drawings of quote unquote everything that had changed was that ever correct i probably not like i probably could never track down you know in a cloudy set of drawings everything that we change you that's the major stuff that's where you just cloud the whole sheet right right yeah everything change just cloud the whole thing delta done send it over in this world i mean i know that still in many cases a contractual obligation there here we go so a lot of things have been modified but um you know you can use this tool as a supplement to that or if you don't have that contractual obligation to send over a change log in in a cloud a set of drawings this is far more accurate because this is literally going to identify every single thing that's been changed modified uh or deleted right so one thing was added these are all filters we can turn these things on or off so if i only want to see the added things to this list i had one basic wall it was added if i click on it screen let me zoom back out a little bit this is not going to be the greatest example the rest of my model is it normally ghosted out but it's so ghosted out right there it goes that i couldn't see it at all it just took a second to publish it so this mod this actual wall was added between the different versions that i'm looking at if i want to go look at some modified stuff there was way too many things modified so some case work was modified here i pick at the top level this is all of the case work that was modified if i want to drill down into something specific we can pick on that and it literally zooms right into that object like this is way better than a clouded set of drawings where you cloud the whole sheet jeffrey like like i can zoom right into it see exactly what what it is okay oh yeah don't forget this if you're live linking you do you don't get to change management of actually creating packages and sharing them and or and or consuming them right so here's that consume button so i'm as the architect as the structural engineer i like what the architect did i wouldn't explore it i did some comparative analysis it's all looking great now i hit that consume button it's going to say consume my package you're about to consume this package which will bring into it your team space and update any revit links your team may have referenced so it's basically just telling you hey this is what's happening you hit the consume button what this is doing in the cloud is now making a copy of that revit file from the shared folder and copying it into the consumed folder right so now in revit what you want to do is actually go into manage links and you want to make sure your path to that consumed folder rather than shared and or lived if you want to use the consumed methodology that's all it is you can change on the fly i can say no i want to go back to shared nope i want to go back to i want to go back to consume but i want to go back to live linking so you can have and i could have structural live link i could have mechanical shared linked and i can have plumbing consume linked all in the same project okay i i i that actually that that that was helpful for me i have to was it really it was it was uh i guess i you know my hardest part was first understanding all of these things right and then the second part was finding the use cases and the you know the real world uses of each of these because when you start thinking about it uh it almost seemed like why do we need all these extra levels of of it almost felt like it was adding levels of protection but reality which it kind of is but the reality is when you think about it as far as the live links are concerned it kind of makes sense i guess i guess then um uh and i don't know if someone had a question but maybe sort of like it so so i guess the the question i have is so let's say let's say you're using the consume model right uh the consumed model the consumed methodology of linking yeah and you're on the phone with that with a structural engineer and he's like yeah i just changed this this and this and you want to see it like that yeah right you you the process without relinking to the live model would be he publishes you go you pull down you and that that would be how you'd have to pull it there's there's a bit of a process there uh it's not as bad as hey go out to my ftp site and download these 50 files so yeah and it's definitely better than anything else that's for sure i mean again the to me that the holy grail that this is creating is is being on someone's local server without the vpn thing right that's kind of what's happening is you're giving yourself that access with all of these benefits of of the the tools that exist in the cloud but but that's what you're doing and so when i started reading and understanding published and consumed i'm like aren't we now just making these walls again where where the the great part about this was i have live access to your data at all moments in time so but you do have the option right i mean you do have the you do have the option absolutely absolutely yeah so it's not it's not as fast live linking is is is nearly live linking right that's that's your almost immediate feedback and then shared is a little bit slower and then consumed is you know there's a couple extra steps there so notice a couple things jason asks when a package is consumed do all users need to exit the model or can they continue to work they can continue to work if that if you're linked to consumed and you know you're you're either get notified or your consultant say hey i just shared a new new set with you somebody has to go into bim360 and hit that consumed button for it to actually end up in the consume folder but once that happens then you just go to manage links and reload and now it's now it's latest and greatest as long as you're path to consumed another question that came up said um uh i'm gonna have to watch this video uh 10 more times in order to understand all this stuff so here's a here's a great link so this is to the knowledge network this is linking models in bim 360 and it goes through and it basically explains all of the different methodologies to that so let's see here um oh maybe i have the wrong one i have to jeff i have to get this for you there's one that actually sorry i got to grab the wrong link one of these actually says at the top live linking shared linking and then scroll down a little bit farther and consume linking and i think does a pretty good job of explaining all all three of those different methodologies for you guys we'll put we'll put a link to that uh and you guys can watch the video ten more times too why not uh why not right um so it's a long one though maybe does it get does it get indexed so they can skip ahead uh i have to do that uh and i will afterwards believe me but yes it will get indexed i will have chapters or uh time stamps as youtube calls them uh to make sure that everyone can jump between them um so so i guess i had a question i think maybe someone asked it but if if you're switching between live link um shared or live links shared or consumed if you're just switching file paths of that file are you holding filters and all that good stuff in your revit model is holding or no so let's say you have to go through links and stuff and you flip it out and flip it back and flip it out yeah that's a that's a whole nother ball game there i think um i don't know let's test it out because when you're changing you're talking about just changing the reload from or you're saying you're changing the path i mean what like what does that process look like i'm just curious because people asked about it and i'm curious to know if if you wanted to do that like let's say that was the call you had with the destruction engineer and and you're normally using consumed but because of the meeting you're on or something like that you want to flip to a live that'd be pretty neat to be able to to flip to live and then have have them have the live link sort of there yeah yeah totally i got to the same link again melissa was calling me out she's like i can't believe scott can't even find the right link so i try it again you know if you fail the first time just keep trying and go to the same link over and over again it's out here somewhere okay we'll find the link we'll find them yeah we'll get it we'll get it um never rename the shared folder yeah it's it's really bad practice to rename the shared folder uh it gets lost don't rename the shared folder and or the consumed folder don't delete them if if it's a brand new project and somebody's not knowing and they what's this darn shared folder i didn't make that and they delete it you can go back out in as an admin and restore it but best practices leave those things alone one thing they changed not that long ago in bib360 is the ability to say where that shared folder exists in bim360 it used to be always at the default of the root folder so if i come back here to design collaboration go back into document management you've got the project files folder when this changes at the very top of the list shared was always just one level below project files now you can say i want shared actually you know down some other level of folders because we've got a folder structure set up and our work in progress directories down here so you can you can change so here's kind of default in this case we actually did rename it so whoever set up this project x actually put a zero zero in front of it to kind of get that that naming structure to keep things kind of stacked accordingly so by default it should just be shared and then depending on your team your consumed folder will be under your team folder with all the other teams then under that consume folder as well just like shared all of the other teams end up being created under there automatically for you when you make those things it looks like according to the experts in the chat um reload from uh will will maintain your settings oh good perfect i know i know in normal revit world it works i was just curious in this shared cloud revit world if it still did it sounds like it does so immediate answers i love it so yes i mean when you and some of these guys on the chat i guess uh you can you can trust their responses sorry paul i'll take your word for it aaron i love it parallax team says there's gonna be an escape room at au sharing a package is how you get out of there you get out of the room it's like it's the right code combination it's worse than a sudoku puzzle but by then those three ellipses will be hidden somewhere else and no one will actually know how to get to that part of the ui right and it'll have a whole different name and a different icon probably right oh fantastic awesome i i did go full on in i went autodesk today i went with the full logo shirt the new logo you see everything's got new logos that's right i cropped most of it out don't worry about it did you really okay perfect yeah so uh uh wait till 2023 products come out that's gonna be fun this is be an interesting time for all of you that don't want to see the blue revit uh r icon on your taskbar any longer you you've got changes coming so what about the other seven r's that are going to be there those are stuff right it'll just be the new i'll always know what 2023 is but the rest of them will have to go through and install the parallax icons every time awesome probably thanks to parallax you're doing that for us all the time well this was this was great i think we could probably we probably hit a point where we could probably wrap it up uh uh 45 minutes over so you know that's ah come on everyone's still hanging out so that was my gauge i was gonna look at it and see see how long people hung out um and and i'm assuming people will still hang out when they watch the replay too can i share the autodesk logo um do you want so do you want just that the 2d if you just go google search autodesk logo and hit image search it's out there all over the place if you want a physical model of it there's actually a few of those out there already i actually made one and form it and then brought it into revit as well so um the 3d it's the logo is actually supposed to be 3d but you're looking at a 2d version of it uh as it's presented here and everywhere else oh yeah awesome man well this is great i appreciate it i hope it was enlightening for folks it was definitely for me so i and i have to imagine that it was enlightening for the 100 people it was fun i i appreciate doing this and i've been glad to jump in and do a do a follow-up to this if we want to do a little deeper dive into this as well i feel like we we scratched the surface of some of the stuff that we could have covered tonight jeffrey we did but you know what i i think uh if anyone watches this they have the tools they need to set up a cloud work shared model and hopefully understand that timeline and why it exists and and all of the good stuff um so i appreciate it i think that that was that was what my goal was for today was to get to that point so so i appreciate that i think the next one yeah for sure i think we can talk about all the other tools that exist now that all of your data is here like the mono coordinate tool um and like some of the other ones so so i'm excited to uh to do that and we'll definitely do that for part two um you guys can uh hit me up on on twitter i was trying to make my i gotta log back in that's awesome i'll put all i'll put all the links to scott davis yep thank you on twitter i'll make sure all the links are below so you guys can can can heckle scott at after the fact as well on twitter um and all the links that we mentioned will be in the description uh here on youtube as well as on on the blog at therabitkid.com um after this show is finished being live uh scott thanks man i appreciate it thank you guys like i said it's been a lot of fun i i was uh tweeted out earlier i felt like i'm on fallon or jimmy kimmel tonight i'm sitting i'm sitting on your couch and yeah we're just chatting about good stuff and having fun so yeah yeah totally appreciate it and i would love to do it again sometime and appreciate all the crowd we had and thanks for all the great feedback and and questions and and tweckling and heckling along the way yeah thank you guys for sticking around this was great i mean uh everyone hung around and and hang out with us stay tuned um for next week and the week after there's two more episodes left of this season of bim after dark live and uh you won't want to miss them i've got some some really really awesome guests coming up uh and then we'll we'll reconvene in january so i'll be reaching out to you scott to see when we want to talk about models perfect sounds good and not that you're not doing great things here but i can't wait to see all of you guys live in person in face to face here coming up in 2023 uh i hope ayu right now the plan is for au to actually be live this year so we'll see i think the rtc committee i'm sorry the build committee i i think wants to be live this next year so there's lots of things happening and i hope we can all get together awesome uh one quick question that um somebody asked multiple times is do you think we'd ever have the 360 cloud whatever we want to call at this point in time available for students so for anyone who's a student out there who doesn't know you do get to use all of the autodesk applications as long as you go through the approval process which is pretty straightforward um as a student for free completely but but you don't as far as cloud access they give you cloud credits for certain cloud things but uh you don't have cloud access to something like this so i don't know if there's been any discussions at autodesk working towards it actually the education group at autodesk is working towards allowing cloud access to to cloud collaboration uh everything we've been talking about today because obviously it makes a hell of a lot of sense for students you guys need to collaborate on projects together so i know there are some select educational groups that are using it today in kind of a beta so i'll give you an idea that it is being done it is out there i don't have any kind of idea of when it might go public to the rest of the kind of university college system actually i should say educational because we actually have a high school here in local in southern california that they're teaching revit at and actually they're one of them that's on the beta of using bim 360 um as a collaboration tool so it's out there should be coming soon awesome great well scott thanks again man i appreciate it i appreciate that thanks everybody this is awesome everyone else again thanks for uh thanks for sticking around i appreciate you guys uh have a great weekend um i'll see you next week and uh and talk to everyone soon good night see you guys [Music] [Music] you

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Id: 5HgiuYlmfDw

Length: 110min 3sec (6603 seconds)

Published: Thu Dec 09 2021