Billionaires Jack Ma and Elon Musk debate at World Artificial Intelligence Conference in Shanghai

welcome great to have both of you here with us today the session is actually much awaited we've already posted some of the key words of the questions on the big screen and later on you can just click the word you're interested in to talk about now the stage is yours what are you supposed to say um just things about ai perhaps yeah uh okay let's see um yeah the ai right you had a stat one is ai yeah it is okay great ai yeah um actually i'm told that does ai mean love it like there's like a name ai it sort of sounds a bit like love yeah a i i hate the word a.i called artificial intelligence i call it alibaba intelligence yeah might might end up being true you never know i think generally people underestimate the the capability capability of ai they sort of think like it's a smart human but it's it's really much it's going to be much more than that um it'll be much smarter than the smartest human yeah can we be like you know if like can a chimpanzee really understand humans not really you know that just we just seem like strange aliens um they mostly just care about other chimpanzees uh and uh this will be how it is more or less in a relative in fact if it's if if the difference is only that small that would be amazing probably it's much much greater so like the biggest mistake that i see artificial intelligence researchers making is assuming that they're intelligent yeah they're not compared to ai and so a lot of them cannot imagine something smarter than themselves but ai will be vastly smarter vastly so what do you do with a situation like that what do you do with a situation like that i'm not sure you know hope i hope they're nice i mean i i have obviously some you know i think in a situation where you if you you know the old saying if you can't if you can't beat them join them you know that's what neurolink is about is like can we go go along for the ride with ai um i mean i really think that there should be other companies like neuralink essentially to create a high bandwidth interface to the brain because the right right now we are already a cyborg people don't realize we are already a cyborg because we are so well integrated with our phones and our computers the phone is almost like an extension of yourself if you forget your phone it's like a missing limb but the bandwidth the communication bandwidth to the phone is very low especially input so in fact input bandwidth to computers has actually gone down because of typing with two thumbs as opposed to ten fingers is a big reduction in bandwidth input bandwidth has gone up because of video and imagery so input bandwidth is many orders of magnitude greater than output bandwidth that at a certain point if we'll just assume assuming a benign scenario with ai we will just be too slow you know it's like if a millisecond to something let's say a computer that has like an extra flop of or you know many extra flaps of compute capability a millisecond is an eternity and to us it's nothing so you know i think i always think like human speech to a computer will sound like very slow tonal wheezing there's kind of like whale sounds yep you know because what's that bandwidth like a few hundred bits per second basically maybe a few kilobits per second if you're gonna be generous so whereas a computer can easily communicate at a terabit level so the computer will just get impatient if nothing else it would be like talking to a tree that's humans yeah and on that uh a great note barely getting any information out basically with speech yeah i'm always amazed about what your vision about the technology i'm not a tech guy i think i'm all about life i think ai is going to open a new chapter of the society of the world that people try to understand ourselves better rather than the outside world and it's so difficult to predict the future 99.99 of the predictions the human being had in the history about the future all wrong including that one oh yeah only you know the the zero point zero zero percent of the prediction are right they're right because by accident yeah but it's also true that 80 percent of statistics are false yeah so my meaning called room come on guys it was a joke but i'm happy about the artificial intelligence or alibaba intelligence that's going to understand a human the inside of the human better so when people worry a lot about artificial intelligence people should have more confidence in themselves because i think if a lot of solutions we don't have today but there will be solutions tomorrow we don't have solutions for the young people we have solutions so i'm quite optimistic and i don't think artificial intelligence is a threat i don't think that if at fish intelligence is something terrible but human beings are smart enough to learn that and to me artificial intelligence is just like people worry a lot about this today are those people i call them called called college smarteners people like us street smart we're never scared of that we we think it's a great fun and we want to change ourselves to embrace it i don't know man that's like famous last words let me tell you ai is i mean you look at sort of the rate of advancement and just in general the rate of advancement of computers is insane um like a good example would be video games you know if you go back 40 40 years ago 50 years ago maybe you had pong that was just two rectangles and a square now you've got photorealistic real-time simulations with millions of people playing simultaneously if you assume any rate of improvement at all the i mean these games will be indistinguishable from reality you will not be able to tell the difference either that or civilization will end those are the two options um but even if the rate of technology improvements slowed down by a thousand then okay advance a thousand years you know or ten thousand years this is still very tiny um i mean civilization civilization has been around for probably you know arguably i think seven thousand years or something like that if you counted from the first time there was any any writing any recorded symbols besides k paintings there's a very tiny amount of time considering the universe is 13.8 billion years old i mean if civilization lasted for a million years we would we would only increment the third decimal point after 13.8 billion years if we lasted for a million years uh so i don't that seems like a long time um given that we've only been around for seven thousand years it's been pretty it's been kind of a roller coaster on the civilization front so i mean i'm not trying to be i'm a naturally optimistic person to be clear i'm not saying hey doom and gloom i'm just saying the these this is the apparent pattern the the rate of change of technology is incredibly fast um it is outpacing our ability to understand it well i'm not sure is that good or bad i don't know i mean it seemed to me some time ago that you could sort of think of humanity as a biological bootloader for digital super intelligence if you're if for those who know what a bootloader is a very tiny piece of code without which the the computer cannot start but it's sort of like the minimal bit of code necessary for a computer to start like you couldn't evolve silicon circuits they needed to be a biology to get there good yeah well let's talk about something fun i i'm at the mind that you want to go on the mars shall we go to the the mars yeah yeah so what will the life look like on mars are you both moving what do you think about that i i actually i'm not interested in mars i just came back from there so i'm more interested on the earth the things what's going on happening here so what why you're so curious about the mars well i think the thing about mars is that i think it's important for us to take the set of actions that are most likely to continue consciousness into the future what increases the probability of consciousness of of continuing into the future i think we should not take it for granted that consciousness will continue because we have not encountered any aliens where are the aliens this is the fermi paradox this is one of the most important questions how come we've not found any aliens there's people out there who think we've found aliens trust me i would know we have not okay um people ask me you've been to area 51 okay please spacex actually has area 59. it's even better eight better than 51. so i'm among the set of actions we can take that are likely to increase the scope and scale of consciousness such that we are better able to understand the nature of the universe one of those actions is to become a multi-planet species or ensure that life is multi-planetary not because i think something that it's not not from from the standpoint of it just being an escape hatch or because i think that earth is doomed but there is a certain probability that is irreducible that something may happen to earth despite our best intentions despite everything we try to do the there's a probability at a certain point that some either external uh force or some internal unforced error causes civilization to be destroyed um or or sufficiently impaired such that it can no longer extend to another planet it's hard to say like like put another way this is the first time in the four and a half billion year history of earth that it's been possible to extend life beyond earth before this it was not possible how long will this window be open it may be open for a long time or it may be open for a short time i think we should it would be wise to assume that it is open for a short time and and and then let us uh secure the future secure the future of consciousness such that life of the light of consciousness is not extinguished and we should try to do this as quickly as possible that's my view good it's so difficult to secure the future of the earth but we can secure the future of next 100 years i'm not the person that i admire your courage for exploring mars but i admire a lot of people spend efforts on improving the earth it's it's great to send 1 million people to the mars but we have to care about the 7.4 billion people on the earth how can we make the world's most sustainable and i'm not that fond of the mars because i think it's easy to go to the marsh when you go on the top of the hills of all the of the building just the one step you go to mars but you will never be able to come back yeah but that's my idea how it works though and uh also don't do it i hate to go to himalayas too i mean when you climb on the i think someday i will go there when the elevator is ready i will go to have a look but i have i think spending more time on the earth think about how because no matter how long the civilization of the human beings will be like one minute or two million or half million years but we only have 100 years so we cannot solve all the problems for future but we have to be responsible for the future but we should care more about how we can enjoy better my view is that by the artificial intelligence or ai when human beings understand ourselves better then we can improve the world better last 200 years human beings try to understand the other side were better understand the other people better but i think what i feel excited about ai is the ai is to understand people the inside of the human beings the earth i heard you you're gonna dig eternal in deep in the earth which is amazing i think um anyhow every time when i read the news about your interest in the outside space i look at you with great respect we need a heroes like you but we need more heroes like us working hard on the earth improving things every day that's what i want sure i mean to be clear i'm very pro-earth great that sounds great um to be clear on very pro-earth when i say you know us becoming a multi-planet species or making life multi extending life beyond earth expanding the scope and scale of consciousness um from a resource standpoint i'm talking about less than one percent of earth's resources should be dedicated to uh making life multi-planetary or making consciousness multi-planetary so you know i think it should be like somewhere in between uh how much we spend on lipstick and how much we spend on healthcare like you know things like for the preservation of consciousness we should spend maybe slightly more than we spend on on cosmetics that's my you know and i'm pro cosmetics i like it they're great but but uh you know this is probably worth spending i don't know some like at least half a percent of earth gdp on extending life to be multi-planetary maybe one percent i'd say seems like a good a good use of resources uh and but then 90 you know we have like two orders magnitude more resources spent on earth so it's not like it's uh you know somehow gonna fundamentally impair earth if if like just one percent of earth resources on that order should be enough to make life multi-planetary seems like a wise investment for the future and obviously i spend a lot of my time on sustainable energy with tesla with electric cars and solar and batteries and that kind of thing and i'm really excited to be here in in shanghai for the the shanghai gigafactory which is i think that tesla china team has done an amazing job really mind-blowing like i'm just astounded by how good the job is and how much progress has been made and i think it's a good story for the world and to say like look look how much progress you can make in in china this is extremely impressive like my hat is off you know you guys rock so i've never seen anything but so fast in my life before to be totally frank i've seen some crazy things so you know i think it's like i really think china is the future that's very impressive um and there's also some great progress on uh entrepreneurial rocket companies in china as well i believe two have made orbit and it's very difficult very hard to make orbit achieving orbit i have great respect this is very hard um yeah pick up another topic sure yeah job jobs jobs are life jobs sure anything sure so what new jobs will be created because of the ai or has the change already stated what do you think i think why we needed that many jobs right my view is that the jobs actually every technology revolution people start to worry right last 200 years we worry about the new technology gonna take away all the jobs actually we made a lot of jobs second because of the industry revolution job created a lot of jobs what i think is the next 20 30 years human being will live much longer the life science technology is going to make people live probably 100 120 years that may not be a good thing because you get a grandfather's grandfather still working hard but the challenge is my question why should we have a lot of jobs i think people should work three days a week four hours a day when we have electricity the power of electricity is that we make people more time so you can go to the kala okay in the evening you can go to dancing party in the evening so people because of electricity people have more time i think because of artificial intelligence people will have more time enjoy being human beings in your life in my life i think i visited probably 300 cities in my life my grand my father visited 30 cities my grandfather would visit only three cities so my grandchildren private property will visit three thousand cities all his life he's always on the tesla he's always on the robots always traveling around so i don't think we need a lot of jobs at that time the jobs we need is make people happier make people experience the life enjoy the human beings so i'm i don't worry about the job jobs a lot first we're going to have a lot of jobs second we don't need a lot of jobs third there's a very interesting thing which because we'll probably talk about life in the agriculture period average age is like a 30 35 years old in the industry period technology revolution people can live 70 years so in the artificial intelligence period people can live 120 years as i think now the problem comes when people's life is getting better people don't want to have children when your grand grandfather is there you don't want to have children at that time we are going to have a lot of jobs with nobody want to do it so we need artificial intelligence the robots to take care of the old guys for sure you would not be happy or you were happy because when your grand grandfather said oh i need to work tomorrow then that's a disaster so i think we cannot predict the future but we should be ready that we are going to enter into the area that everybody can live 120 years and we have a new more new problems that come up so that's my view about jobs don't worry about it you will have jobs yeah i i i think that yeah over time ai will make jobs kind of pointless probably the last job that will remain will be doing writing ai software and then eventually the ai will just write its own software so i don't know i suppose i would recommend studying engineering physics that kind of thing um or working on something where people just want to interact with other people and people enjoy fundamentally interacting with other people so if you're working on something that involves people or engineering it's probably a good approach you know art of course yeah like i said i think we're gonna have to figure out this new link situation otherwise we will be left behind it's very important we do this quickly i think time we don't have much time we don't have much time of what we don't have much time to solve the neural link uh yeah yeah it is yeah you can think of like technology like technology and technology awareness there's like it's like if it was like a topological map of technology awareness it's mostly flat with a few short buildings and then some very tall spires very tall spires and unless you're on that very tall spire it's not obvious what the topology is yeah i never worry about the things that i cannot solve i left other people to solve it if nobody can solve it just let it be that's my life oh let's talk about education i'm quite interested about education can we yeah so what knowledge or skills will be useful to master the future do you have any advice for young professionals who want to pursue a career in ai young professionals i don't think you will have professionals on ai in the future well i worry a lot about people worry about jobs but i worry about education all the education systems the things we teach our kids the way we teach our kids are mainly designed for the industry period and i'm sure the machine will be much clever than human beings in the future how can human being do better human beings should be smarter human beings should be wiser so how can we be human beings to be wiser or smarter i think that we should change the way of education change the things because in the in the past we focus a lot about you know remember things computer can remember better than you are we want to calculate the faster computer can can calculate much faster we want to ram faster computer can run much faster than you are so human beings should have confidence by being more creative more constructive so how can we teach our kids to be more creative and constructive and i think this is the key of the education and i want spending more time on training kids on arts on painting on singing on dancing you know all these are the creative things that make people live like humans don't worry about machines for sure we should understand one thing that men can never make another man computer is a computer computer is just a toy man cannot even make a mosquito so we should have a confidence computer only have chips men have the heart it's the heart where the wisdom comes from so i think in the next 10 or 20 years human beings or every country every government should focus on reform the education system making sure our kids be able to find jobs in the future be able to live in a life that only working three days a week four hours a day and that is very important if we do not change the education system that we are in we are all going to be in trouble that's my view and don't worry about it we will change it yeah okay let's go you know i would say try to learn as much as much as possible that allows you to predict the future or make the future so they're saying is the best way to predict the future is to make it um just and and then assess whether what you're learning is enabling you to predict the future with less error are you less wrong we're always wrong to some degree but can you reduce the error on your future predictions i think that's the way to look at education as of course but it's both creative create the future and predict the future so that includes art and all those other things but close the loop on being less wrong about future i would say that's the right way to think about education i mean down the road with the neural link you can just upload any subject instantly so we like the matrix you want to fly a helicopter no problem well helicopters will fly themselves but you know if you wanted to do whatever any any given skill we just upload it instantly and the way education works right now it's extremely low bandwidth it's extremely slow lectures are the worst really it was like very slow um yeah just try to predict the future with less error this is the hot this is very hard as you were saying i'm not sure it's 99.9 but it's it's not very good generally a prediction of the future but i think often people don't try the first thing is try if you don't try okay you know got it you gotta try and then and then adjust based on the error of your prior predictions yeah i think just to try is very good we should always have the confidence to try the future and i never worry about the errors and the mistakes errors and mistakes that are the best assets of human lives and humans i think that when people worry about that the disasters that ai is going to bring in i think it's not the disasters it's the mistakes that human beings make and trust human beings will be able to correct the mistakes and improve themselves and that we need education and this is what we think that china today we have 1800 new babies born every year which which is not enough we need we need to have like uh much more than that but i think the best resources of the human beings on the or the best resources on the earth are not the coals not the oil not the electricity it's it's the human brains how can we make the human brains more creative constructive how can we making sure that the machines are always the toys and tools of humans rather than the control so i never in my life and especially last two years when people talk about ai say a human human being will be controlled by mushrooms i never think about that i think it's it's it's it's impossible right it's impossible because because human beings they are different machines are invented by human beings and according to the science right humans can never create another animal that is smarter than humans especially when you have so many smart people it's impossible to make another smart people i i very much disagree with that okay yeah that's good yeah um i mean the first thing we should assume is that we are very dumb um and we can we can definitely make things smarter than ourselves i mean the they didn't used to be humans right so then our early civilization was very primitive um we didn't have any technology really we're just like running around you know trying to not get eaten or trying to survive a winter now we have like heating and we grow food this is all new stuff so you know things have obviously gotten way more smarter than the past way smarter so that's going to continue we are not the last step in evolution so the most important thing like i said the most important mistake i see smart people making is assuming that they're smart they're not yeah so give me example what animals or things that a human being made that is smarter than human beings well computers actually are already much smarter than people on so many dimensions we just keep moving the goal posts so we used to think like for example being good at chess was an example of a smart human and then kasparov was crushed by deep blue in 97. that was a long time ago 22 years i mean right now your cell phone could crush the world champion of chess literally um go used to be thought of as something that humans were better at than computers then lisa doll was beaten four was before one by alpha zero then uh a new version of alpha zero oh i sort of should say alphago alpha go beat at least at all four one then uh as alpha zero alpha zero crushed alpha go hundred to zero now it's just pointless because it just keeps playing itself humans are trying to play a computer go is like trying to fight zeus it's not going to work hopeless we're hopeless hopelessly inadequate um in terms of rendering basically there's just a smaller and smaller corner of what of intellectual pursuits that humans are better than computers and that every year it gets smaller and smaller and and soon we will be far far surpassed in every single way guaranteed 100 or civilizational end those are the two possibilities okay yeah my view is that computer may be clever but human beings are much smarter yeah definitely not clever is very academic is knowledge driven smarter is experience driven computer is smart it's clever but it's human being we invented a computer i never see a computer invented a human being this is my first point second point is that um about a gold plate shares it's stupid to compete with a computer on play gold just like a hundred years ago when human being created cars so human beings said i can run faster than a car it's impossible it's only stupid people to compete with a car who run faster go is designed for human to play with human right the chest is designed for human to human why should a human to fight against a a computer so i never ever play chess or go with computer i'll be happy to see two computers fight each other i'm not interested in play golf with chess so i told those guys they are very sad so uh computer will be smarter than human beings because computer can play chess better i think you are stupid to compete with that don't do that so this is this is we always do things we are good at sure okay what would be an example of something that humans are better than a computer at and and then let's see if that happens well humans computer is only one of the clever tools that human created and computers are clever but there will be more tools that human beings will created much clever than computers that's my view okay well let me tell you like my view on the on ai is essentially the you can view the advancement of ai as solving things with increasing numbers of degrees of increasing degrees of freedom so the the thing that the thing with the most most degrees of freedom is reality but ai is steadily advanced solving things that have more and more degrees of freedom so obviously something like like checkers was very easy to solve that we could solve with with classical software classical computing not really all that challenging and in fact there is a complete solution for checkers meaning it is literally literally impossible every every version of checkers is known um and then uh then there's chess which is also was also um it had many many more degrees of freedom than checkers many orders made to you more than checkers but still a really i would say a low order of magnitude a low degree of freedom game then there's go which had many orders of magnitude more degrees of freedom than than chess so it's really just stepping through orders of magnitude of degrees of freedom this is the way to i think view the advancement of intelligence yeah yeah and it's really gonna get to the point where it just can completely simulate a person in every way possible like many people simultaneously in fact i mean obviously there's a there's a strong argument we're in the simulation right now um it also reminds you that joke of like you know if if life was a video game what would be the review and it's like well the graphics are incredible um the plot is confusing um the respawn takes a long time you know that's a video game that's life i'm gonna fly for the video game respawn takes takes 20 years to spawn a human being and have them be fully conscious um i i'm worried about the birth rate which you alluded to earlier the contrary to like most people think we we have like too many people on the planet but actually this is this is an outdated view this is the the assuming that ai is fine assuming that ai is there's a benevolent future with ai i think that the biggest problem the world will face in 20 years is population collapse collapse i want to emphasize this the biggest issue in 20 years will be population collapse not explosion collapse the it's very easy to see what the world will look like in 20 years because humans have a 20-year boot sequence so like you say okay well who has won last year okay now you know what it will look like in 20 years it's that easy i absolutely agree with that the uh the population problem is going to be facing huge challenge 1.4 billion people in china sounds a lot but i think next 20 years we'll see this thing will bring big trouble to china and the population decreasing of the whole the speed of population decreasing is going to speed up and you call it collapse accelerating clouds accelerating collapse and then off the the common rebuttal is like well what about immigration like from where you know from yeah you want to go to spain you know the mars the mars will immigrate yeah more than lanes here probably mars needs people yeah there's mars these people you know there's zero people there right now so right now it's a machine planet there's only some robots there this is something that we should uh pay special attention that's why the the the 18 million new babies born in china which was less than like only like one percent something we should spend more time create these people and treat life better but also i think about the ai there's another thing which i in my company in our company a i would call alibaba intelligence because we think when things with order with things with logic machine can always do better ai can do better but if things without the order without logic human being can do better for example when you love somebody there's no reason normally i just love him or just love her i i have no reason but when i hate somebody when i want to do bad things on something somebody there's a logic and with when there's a logic i i can do better what we do on our end financing we you we teach machine all the bad things that bad guys want to do machine can learn quickly and arrest all the bad guys immediately but when you want to do good things not necessarily ai means love that's absolutely right so that is why the world the ai's if the if the ai can bring love which i called in in the past if you're a successful person you have to be eq and iq right in the future if you want to survive in this world you have to be the lq the cue of love that's important too otherwise you cannot survive in artificial intelligence time i agree with love is the answer yeah many songs about that you want to pick up the final one another another topic excuse me gentlemen due to the time is very limited so we only have five minutes left so last question please yeah we have you want to pick up the last life or human being mushrooms so you want to talk about your cars ultimate autonomy what do you want to talk this feels like one of those steps in a video game where you've got like pick a path to choice i choose life okay life so how much longer do you think people can live for with the help ai can ai help with environment sustainability can you i think first of all i think humans will solve environmental sustainability i do not mean to suggest complacency um or that we just take it easy in fact this is a self-fulfilling or unfulfilling prophecy we must we must take immediate and traumatic action and we you know we and continue the momentum towards environmental sustainability and china is actually the world leader in this in fact i'm not sure how well it is known outside of china just how much china is a world leader in environmental sustainability it's extremely impressive i mean i think half of all the electric cars in the world were made in china last year something like that so you know so i don't mean to suggest suggested complacency but i do think humans can and will solve sustainability if if we can if we do the neural lace then i think or the neural link essentially the age will not matter that much you can simply save your state uh and restore your state like it's like a saved game essentially something very close to that um i do think we can we can solve biological aging if we really wanted to um you'd have to make dna changes but it's we're obviously just on a on a clock all all organisms are um i mean you could take a fruit fly for example and you could give it yo to sort of have it do daily yoga and have a very healthy diet and it's still gonna live for three weeks maybe four weeks um so environmental factors are relatively minor for extending life you have to change the dna and there's another question is like will people be okay with changing the dna that's the thing about extending life you know and probably people are a little bit reticent about that but that's essentially the thing that needs to occur to extend life or you've got you've got to stop the dna clock somehow i don't know if we should work on this or not i think frankly you know it's it's probably a good thing that we do eventually die um you know there's a saying like in physics like even physicists which are generally quite objective it's like saying like you know all physicists don't change their mind they just die so maybe you know there's a it's good to have this life cycle yeah yeah well i think ai can definitely help the environmental sustainability and when human beings know themselves better human being will be smarter and will be wiser the difference between clever people and smart people or wise people smart people knows what he want and how he can get it wise people know what he doesn't want so when human beings using artificial intelligence they will understand themselves better and i think there will be millions of ways people will live in a healthy earth and protect the health ears the reason why i want i want to stay in this earth i want to work on this earth i want to do anything i can to help this earth to better because even in a go to the space is great but if we can spend at resources just to focus on helping pick up the garbage from the oceans that thing is more difficult than to go to the mars but artificial intelligence can help us achieving that and solve the problems and the second human being can live better can live longer but what we need is not only live longer we want to live healthier how can we live healthier is to understand us better most of the disease are caused by our behavior so i think i'm 100 sure people will live longer people will live healthier but may not necessarily live happier if you want to be happier human beings should focus the valley the vision and the mission and always have the dreams and i don't want people love the technology and put them dreams on the technology i think technology should be with dreams it's the not technology change the world is the dreams behind the technology that change the world so my my hope is that anything we can do to improve this world to helping 7.4 billion people live better and live healthier and this is all about our world and uh i think we will be working very happily because i love your product tesla you know making world cleaner and no noise and the so such great technology i'm happy you have the factory in china and i think we need to do more things to improve this earth improve this world and make sure that people are happier and people care about the family people care about the health that's all we should do and trust us trust human beings and trust young people let's take responsibility for today but let's not take away all the solutions for tomorrow it's great human being make mistakes it's great human beings learn from mistakes it's great to die that's probably true thank you yeah you cannot live long i just like yeah thank you fight for the light of consciousness thank you thank you so much for this very inspiring and futuristic very informative dialogue it seems it's the typical dialogue between us but no matter which planet we're going to live in time and life still go

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Completely disagree with Ma on almost everything

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Elon musk is not an AI expert. Jack ma has personality flaws and also is not an expert.

Kai fu lee has told elon musk to shut up already and to not speak outside his domain. Zuckerberg also has told elon to shut up too.

Deep learning is not something musk even understands.