THING. SAME CATEGORY. WHAT CAN WE TALK ABOUT, WHAT'S OKAY, WHAT ISN'T. HAWLEY IS DOING THAT ALSO. BUT HE'S CREATING A WEAPON THAT I THINK THE LEFT AND THE MEDIA DON'T SEE COMING. >> RIGHT, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT. AND THERE IS A SENSE THAT JUST BEING MALE IS TOXIC OR JUST BEING WHITE IS TOXIC. YOUR WHITENESS. IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, I'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO BE AN ALLY, THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING, AND NOW YOU'RE COMING AFTER ME? THIS WHOLE IDEA OF, LIKE, YOU HAVE TWO CHOICES, YOU'RE EITHER A RACIST OR YOU'RE A RACIST AND YOU DON'T KNOW IT. PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED A RIGHT-THINKING LIFE THEIR WHOLE LIFE, WHY ARE YOU COMING AFTER ME? HAVE I TURNED MY LIFE OVER TO THIS ISSUE? NO, BUT I CAN'T, I HAVE A JOB AND KIDS AND A WIFE AND STUFF TO DO. I CAN'T DO THAT. NOW, JOSH HAWLEY IS A DANGEROUS GUY. LET'S GET TO THE ESSENCE OF JOSH HAWLEY. HE'S NOT WRONG ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. BUT IT'S MINOR TO SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6th. A MUCH BIGGER QUESTION IS, WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE IN OUR GOVERNMENT WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT? AND HE IS ONE OF THEM. >> HE'LL SAY, NO, NO, I BELIEVE IN IT, JANUARY 6th WAS BAD AND WRONG, SAID AND SETTLED, YOU GUYS ARE ONLY UPSET ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU GET TO USE IT AS A CUDGEL BUT YOU DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THE BACK PEOPLE AND THEIR ALLIES RUNNING AROUND BURNING DOWN ALL THOSE CITIES IN THE IS IT YOUR TESTIMONY BEFORE. >> IT'S A FALSE COMPARISON AND IT WASN'T THE CAPITOL AND THEY WEREN'T TRYING TO STOP A DULY ELECTED OFFICER AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT FROM TAKING OFFICE. I MEAN, IT'S A PRETTY SOBERING THOUGHT THAT THE REPUBLICAN WITH THE MOST BACKBONE WAS MIKE PENCE. >> BUT FOR PENCE IT COULD HAVE BEEN A VERY DIFFERENT SCENARIO, BY THE WAY. >> YES. WHEN I MENTION LIZ CHENEY NOW, THE AUDIENCE CLAPS. I'M LIKE, OH, WE LOVE HER NOW. >> LET'S SEE IF SHE COMES AFTER BIDEN A COUPLE OF TIMES. >> THAT'S OKAY, THAT'S HER JOB, TO GO AFTER BIDEN, THAT'S WHAT REPUBLICANS DO, WE DID THAT FOREVER, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS WERE CATS AND DOGS. BUT TIP O'NEILL AND REAGAN COULD HAVE A DRINK AFTER WORK. HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO WORK TOGETHER? HOW MANY QANON MEMBERS OF CONGRESS NOW? HOW DO YOU NEGOTIATE WITH PEOPLE WHO THINK THE DEMOCRATS EAT BABIES? >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WHERE DOES THAT -- >> THAT'S AN OBVIOUS PROBLEM. I THINK THE BIGGER PROBLEM, AND I'LL TAKE A BREAK AND WE'LL DISCUSS ABOUT THIS, IS WHAT GOES UNSAID, THAT PEOPLE WON'T STAND UP. I BELIEVE THE PANDEMIC FOR US WAS A LOW POINT ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT LEVELS. WE MADE OURSELVES SICK ON PURPOSE. AND THEN WE KEPT OURSELVES THERE. I WANT TO TA >>> LAST TOPIC. WE MADE OURSELVES SICK. THAT'S WHAT THE PANDEMIC'S ABOUT. WHAT DOES BILL MAHER THINK ABOUT IT? WE MADE OURSELVES SICK, LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY. PANDEMIC COMES, PEOPLE TELL US OKAY, IT'S GOING TO BE HERE, THERE ARE GOING TO BE A LOT OF CASES, LET'S PREPARE. TOP ECHELON OF GOVERNMENT, OUR PRESIDENT SAYS NO, NO, NO, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT BAD, WE'LL BE FINE, IT WILL DISAPPEAR IN A FEW CASES. OF COURSE IT DOESN'T. BUT IT CREATED A LINE WHERE NOW WE SEE IT ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY ON THE BASIS OF POLITICS, WHO BUYS INTO THINGS ABOUT COVID AND THE TREATMENT AND THE FACTS, WHO DOESN'T. HOW DO YOU SEE IT? >> WELL, YOU SAID WE MADE OURSELVES SICK. THE BIGGER ISSUE THAT IS NEVER DISCUSSED IS THAT WE WERE SICK. YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU GET SICK YOU ARE SICK. THIS IS A VERY SICK COUNTRY. STILL IS. I DON'T MEAN MENTALLY. ALTHOUGH THAT TOO. BUT PHYSICALLY. AND WHY DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? THERE IS -- LET'S CALL IT FACTOR X. IF THERE WAS A FACTOR THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR 78% OF THE COVID DEATHS AND THE HOSPITALIZATIONS, WOULDN'T YOU HAVE TO REALLY JOURNALISTICALLY REPORT THAT? >> THE CO-MORBIDITIES. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT OBESITY. PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA, PEOPLE IN THE GOVERNMENT ARE AFRAID TO EVEN MENTION IT. AGAIN, 78%. 88% OF WORLDWIDE DEATHS ARE IN HIGH-OBESITY COUNTRIES. 40% OF COVID DEATHS ARE PEOPLE WITH DIABETES. AND YET NO ONE WILL MENTION IT. I DO. BUT THEY HATE ME FOR IT. >> I TALK ABOUT IT, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S NOT THE PREVAILING NARRATIVE. >> YOU CANNOT -- PEOPLE HAVE GOT TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR HEALTH. I SAID THIS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. I SAID WE WILL NEVER GET HEALTH CARE RIGHT IN THIS COUNTRY, I DON'T CARE IF YOU TAKE BERNIE SANDERS' HEALTH CARE PLAN, ELIZABETH WARREN'S HEALTH CARE PLAN, JOE BIDEN'S, NOTHING IS GOING TO WORK AND IT WASN'T WORKING UNLESS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE SOME SKIN IN THE GAME. THEY HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THEIR OWN HEALTH. YOU CAN'T EXPECT JUST VACCINES AND PILLS OR WHATEVER ELSE THEY HAVE TO DO THE JOB. AND WE NEVER DO THAT IN THIS COUNTRY. THE LAST PERSON THAT TRIED WAS MICHELLE OBAMA. AND IT DID NOT GO OVER WELL. >> WHEN WE TALK AGAIN EIGHT MONTHS FROM TODAY, HOPEFULLY WE'LL TALK A LOT BEFORE THEN, EIGHT MONTHS FROM TODAY, DO YOU THINK THINGS ARE BETTER OR WORSE? >> WELL, THEY'RE NOT GOING BETTER FOR BIDEN AND THE DEMOCRATS, AND I THINK THAT'S GETTING -- EIGHT MONTHS IS GOING TO BE CLOSE TO THE MIDTERM ELECTION. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GET THUMPED IN THE -- I MEAN, THAT USUALLY HAPPENS IN MIDTERM ELECTIONS. I MEAN, JOE, LOOK, I'M GLAD HE'S THERE. BUT HE HAS NOT EXACTLY STUCK THE LANDING ON A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT HE WAS DEALING WITH. THE TIME I'M WORRIED ABOUT, THAT I KEEP TALKING ABOUT, IS ELECTION DAY 2024 UNTIL JANUARY 20th, 2025, INAUGURATION DAY. BECAUSE AGAIN, IF TRUMP LOSES HE WILL NOT SAY HE LOST. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. HE WILL NEVER CONCEDE. AS I SAID LAST TIME. BUT THIS TIME IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE LAST TIME. I MEAN, HE ALMOST PULLED IT OFF LAST TIME. AND THIS TIME HE'S HAD FOUR YEARS TO GET THOSE PEOPLE IN PLACE. SO WHAT HAPPENS ON JANUARY 20th, 2025? WHEN HE SHOWS UP FOR THE INAUGURATION AND JOE BIDEN, OR