Bill Burr On Comedy Beginnings, White Privilege, Marrying A Black Woman, Chappelle's Show + More

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Club we got a special guest in the building the Legend man Bill bur welcome how you feeling I'm all right you all right yeah when you hear the word Legend do you just feel old or you feel like I'm accomplished ah I don't know what I feel I I I never feel like I you know this you know how this business is you feel like you know any any moment like whatever you got is going to go away so I just I don't pay attention to that stuff I obviously like it um no Legend doesn't make me feel old makes me feel good but when somebody's like oh man I grew up on your comedy I started listening to you when I was eight I'm like oh oh my God you seeing they're like you know divorced like oh God how old am I so yeah I would say that's the type of stuff makes me feel old I want to I want to go back a little bit if you don't mind I I want to know you know what got Bill bur into comedy from atic childhood usual stuff nobody happy gets into this stuff uh used to then the delusions of Fame get into your head and then you somehow get into it uh no I mean I definitely liked it when I was growing up but uh I got into it by chance where uh you know I'm old man so like I was watching it in the 70s and 80s but like show business was like a it was a million miles away it was impossible it was not something that uh you could do like you know just take out a camera and start filming yourself so I I grew up Massachusetts okay okay suburb so I thought like you know you had to be in Hollywood to get into it like I had no idea there was this huge standup scene in in uh Massachusetts so I was working in a warehouse and I was working with this guy and he was into stand up the way I was and he was funny as hell and one night we were we used to uh used to go over to his house have a couple of beers before we went out you know save some money and uh he was we were watching stand up and he was going Bill we're funnier than these guys like and you know he goes one one night I'm going to take a shot at Jack Daniels and go up on stage and that's when it stopped being on TV and it was next to me and I started thinking like oh wait a minute if he can try it I can try it and um still took me another five years to figure it out I started I started kind of late did you ever feel like you had to wear a dress or suck a to get on in Hollywood Jesus Christ uh no and that whole theory is ridiculous that that's what's going on out there that there's more pedophiles in Hollywood than there are in plumbing it's like it's it's it's a problem why PL I don't know just like regular jobs they're acting like they're acting like every pedophile in jail like created uh you know freaking uh you stars stars yeah it's like no it's like they're like they're that's what's going on what's funny is what's going on in Hollywood is going on in most businesses where it's like it's a lot of people working overtime not getting paid not getting credit and getting pushed down and people at the top taking more and more but the problem with Hollywood is is those idiots stay in Hollywood and they look at most of the country like Fly Over States and then they go on these stupid um you know award shows and they talk down to them that's right and then that makes them hate them and then they love to see somebody going down the whole thing is it's like traveling is depressing M yeah because what what you find is everybody really is the same like all of this stuff like you know all these people are evildoers and they're this and that and you go over there and it's just everybody's the same you know everybody you know wants to have money to have a sandwich you want to find love you want to be feel safe yeah that's everybody is like that but then they just they just you know the sociopaths get the dumb people wound up I feel like New York and La have no idea what the rest of the country is actually like if you grew up in New York or you grew up in La you don't know what the real world is like dude New York are some of the worst traveled people you're ever going to meet they're hilarious everywhere they go they would go to Guam and be like oh I I go to Guam I try to get a bacon egg and cheese and the L's looking at me like what are you talking about this place sucks where are the skyscrapers like that's what cracks me about New Yorkers they're like what it's like the point of traveling is to get something different like they go to La and they try to get a bacon egg and cheese it's like get a taco what are you doing when in Rome right yeah I wouldn't come here and try to get a burrito I've seen Mexican foods here I just start laughing it's like no I'm not doing that closest we usually got is Taco Bell that's that's usually what New York has I love that you said that because Mexicans all think that white people think Taco Bell is authentic Mexican food it's like we're not that dumb that is crazy no that is so dumb yeah I know Olive Garden is not Italian yes I understand that they have hoard it out what did Bill burd want to be before he became a comedian or you just always wanted to do oh I was just failing at everything I did horrible in school I did good in school until it mattered it was weird I did really good right up till 8th grade and then once College started paying attention um I don't know I just that's you know I'm not going to get into it but that's when all all like the the the ass hit the fan with a lot of stuff so then uh yeah I don't know what I tried construction I wasn't good at that Landscaping I worked in warehouses I knew I didn't want a boss and I also knew that I didn't want to go into the same building for more than a year because a few times I had jobs for over a year and there was just something so depressing CU you were working for somebody else's dream and it was like a year earlier I was standing right here I have not moved anywhere I'm another year older um so yeah and you got me depressed now I've been here for 15 years yeah but I wasn't sitting in a throne okay okay I was I was I was I was unloading trucks this guy's drinking from a chalice like I feel good about this my C my scented candle no I wasn't we were like unloading trucks and getting hammered and driving drunk stuff you did in the 80s I mean that was basically what it was so and uh I was going part-time to college cuz I have money to go to college so was paying my own way through it and I had already stayed back in first grade so I just felt like hopelessly behind until I started hanging out you know with people that were into comedy and then somehow I found it and uh uh yeah and I remember doing that and then I was just like all right this is what this is what I'm supposed to do because every everything else I was doing I just never felt I always never felt like this is not it I don't feel like these people aren't the same kind of weird that I am you know why do you think you're weird though I mean like I think we're all like messed up a little bit M why don't I think I'm weird I don't know if I if I knew why I was weird I wouldn't be weird I think uh I think you got a lot of common sense whatever I hear you speak I'm like this guy is just is a common sense human being well I've learned from a lot of failures yeah yeah yeah yeah your own or others oh my own okay okay oh and also others well that you know I had a great education when I when I got in to standup the big 80s I don't know how old you guys are but the big 80 45 1978 okay so the the big 80s boom where standup comedy clubs exploded and all that and then it just got to the point you could just put like a microphone anywhere and people would show up for comedy so the the quality of it went down and everybody was doing a lot of people were doing blow getting paid in cash and a blow and all of that type of stuff and then it all came crashing down and then the IRS showed up and everything and then I then I started like I walked in like you know the end of the party balloons were on the ground confetti everybody passed out and I saw these Headliners um that were getting their wages garnished and they had to talk to the IRS to go do some you know Funny Bone in another state and everything so my generation kind of learned like all right man you can party this away in about seven eight crucial years um so I you know I learned from that and then uh you know any young Comics watching this your 20s and 30s are difficult because you're struggling and then also you do that comparison thing like well you started the same time I did and you're here and I'm here so I must be doing something wrong and then I start hating you for some stupid reason and then like that takes up a lot of energy and then one day you just basically figure it out like all right I'll make making the decisions here I you know I'm doing well or not doing well by what I'm thinking rather than this this other stuff did you ever want to quit once no one time I thought I wasn't going to make it it was the only time I ever thought it when was this you bombed no no that happened all the time that's just part of this stuff um I was doing the uh I'm not gonna say where I was because it's a sad story I'm gonna bum you out okay um so I was doing this this this this club that I had just been going to for years and years and years and years and years every other year I'd go there new hour going to get them you know you know I'm in with the warning radio guys and the same 30 people were showing up so it was after the late show and I was sitting there you know wreaking of smoke because you could smoke all three shows smelt like I fought a fire my eyes were all burning and I was just looking at the weight staff and they were lifers they had been there before and they were older little bit heavier and they were counting up their money and they were smoking their cigarettes and the same amount of people had showed up and that was the first time I I like this thought went in my head like of like wait a minute am I the guy who doesn't make it oh my God the Panic of that I went back to the comedy condo and I was just laying in bed trying to turn it around and my brain was just no no you're the guy's not going to make it so that was yeah then I got back to New York and it was better you know I came you know after the gig I came back and then just like the energy I had a couple of good sets um you know Sunday night at the Boston comedy club was a huge was a huge turning point for me in my career probably how I ended up here right now um and that that would that would get me to think positive and you said you never bombed right and I I you have bombed bombed all the time you have but I don't think you bombed bill I think that people don't know if they should laugh at what you're saying you know what I mean well maybe now but no no oh I remember bombing so bad one time uh there's this comedy club called mix nuts that's now called The Comedy Union that was the black club right so I went down there and uh it's funny I started doing those rooms because I used to listen to Richard prior so like his albums were so live that you could like picture the crowd so I had this idea of what a crowd looked like it was weird I'm white as hell and I like that was my idea of what a crowd was so I some you know ended up doing those rooms along with the white rooms right so I was on stage bombing so bad like like this right here silence and I just remember hearing this woman's voice in the back she just goes I ain't laughed yet about 10 minutes damn and then that was the biggest laugh with the said everybody laughed and then they just started talking amongst themselves and I did know I didn't know how to turn it around it was and there's something it's bad enough bombing in front of your own people but bombing in front of another race of people knowing that you're taking down a bunch of other white comics with you like cuz you represent for all white it's just like white people ain't funny this corny ass mother you know oh man it's just it's not just me you know there others out there they're funny yeah it was bad you liked Richard PRI what's your favorite um maybe was it something I said the one I can't say on 82 was super half of them have the N word in it you're going to get me in trouble half that was a setup question right I'm lucky I got a good night's sleep I would have been like oh I like that n word's crazy um I will say I bought I bought his albums cuz he just looked funny that was the first one I bought then was crazy when when he he was pointing like that just he just looked funny and that's how I bought the first Eddie Murphy up I bought the first Eddie Murphy album cuz I was like well he's also black he must be funny and that was the first one we had the rose in his ear um you see how that works so you did represent for all white Comics cuz you see one funny black comic you think yeah yeah that's how no that's how it works it's almost like I found a genre of music so I I would listen to I listen to all of his stuff and I just uh there was something about the way he did it which I didn't understand it as a kid but the way he did it the way he trashed white people he got you to listen to him and laugh at yourself where I think when by the time Def Jam came around crack 80s and all of that like where black comedy was it was like all right I'm enough of this like sort of footing around MH you know so then it was more like it was like a different thing but like what I loved about Richard was like you like rooted for him you felt like you knew him it was really insane like and I think he's the greatest of all time I don't think it's even close during that time during that era when it it seems like that crack time where de Comedy Jam and and the comedy shows was it hard for you to book in those black rooms was it was like here comes the white comedian again no that was the irony it was hard for them and you yeah you had to like vouge for him and everything and the the the club owner is right in front of him yeah you don't do that uh Death Jam stuff do you you're not like MF and MF and talking about you know I I don't know what I can say on the show yeah you're not you're not yeah not oh wait you said sucking dick earlier what am I thinking I start I set the tone I think that was a personal combo I don't know yeah so they would literally say that and um that was embarrassing when you'd be standing there going like so um but with they they you'd come on they didn't is they would just say yeah go do your thing and um they I felt like guys like um all those guys I worked for uh uh Talent Drew Frasier oh yeah Rob Stapleton Gerald Kelly Kelly Capone all the New York Kings I used to do all of those rooms and uh oh God those are all the memories of that one I remember Gerald Kelly had a room oh God that was a brutal room it was somewhere in like Newark in like the 2000s and I remember that sh I remember this comedian uh was it ra RZ G or something yeah rest her soul she was on stage and she's super loud and she was super loud and they weren't laughing at anything and she entered a state she's like God damn she's like I don't know who's coming up next but he better be funny cuz you ain't laughing at and then she brought me up ladies and gentlemen billur did I get a laugh at Le no oh but you know what's weird I went up had an okay set and I felt like I bombed it anything and randomly Chris Weber was there and he came up and he told me I was funny and it was little things like that cuz I'm like well this guy's famous this guy's successful he thinks I'm funny so I think I'll be all right do you change your set when you doing black rooms versus white rooms um I try not to early on I did I'd be on stage and I be all of a sudden I hear myself tagging all my jokes with you know what I'm saying and I I'm be like why am I doing that why am I doing that stop stop doing that but you just would and then there was an easy way there's an easy way to get through those rooms you can just be like I'm the white guy and I'm scared and that's sort of how you do it initially just to get your feet wet in those rooms and then basically then it becomes like now can I actually go up here and talk about what I want to talk about wear a Bruins T-Shirt you know hockey t-shirt or whatever I started experimenting with that and um I remember tce giving me uh rest of his soul yeah going like Bill's trying to do his white in these black rooms sometimes it worked sometimes it all depended on the crowd um it all depended on the crowd but I felt like it's a weird thing where I feel like it's harder to be a black comic in a black room um than it is to be a black comic in a white room and vice versa because you can just play Fish Out of Water yeah like oh wow this is all different gee Louise you know I'm all nervous up here just literally play into the stereotype that's the easy laugh I guess a little hacky though don't 100% yeah yeah not but not early on I forgive any of it cuz you're just trying to survive cuz it's like you know that's like not something like why people don't experience being the only you a lot you know we just sort of walk in oh more white you know and you just live that so the first experience that and that's what's funny when I first started doing those rooms I didn't see black people as individuals I just saw black people and and as I kept doing them and and doing them I started to see individuals oh this guy's like my buddy Mitch this guy's like you know and I I started to see oh this guy's a good guy this guy's a piece of this guy steals jokes this guy's you know and it's like oh this is just like white people I was going to ask you know back in the day you named some of those comedians from talent to Capone it seems like comedy had a A brotherhood like you're all f with each other now it doesn't seem like that especially with cat William throwing missiles at everybody was it a Brotherhood back then or was it always competition and Miss no it always was it's just you couldn't you couldn't air your grievances on social media and that type of stuff like um no there still is like a there still is like a comrade especially the people that like you start out with when you go up and you're doing like open mics and stuff it's just one impossible situation after another and you just get thrown into these things and you sort of bond with each other through just you know I mean I did gigs like we don't have a microphone is that going to be a problem we're just going to have you stand here in this Hall oh my God no it was just like some of the stuff some of the places and then you would just what kept you going was your friend in the crowd laughing at you watching you trying to figure this situation out um so there's definitely that but you know people focus on the negative or whatever so I mean um generally speaking we we we get along it's no more difference than other other stuff now now when you see uh the black comedians going back and forth with each other what what what do you think about that are do do you even look at it as black comedians or you just look at as comedians no comedians cuz white comedians are doing it too really yeah what's y Club sh what's y' Club sh sh oh uh you know I don't know cuz I'm old but like there's definitely you know I'm an old school Guy where I look at all that stuff like that's locker room stuff and if you have a problem with somebody you should go to them and say it that's how I came up and then also like I uh you know this business is difficult I don't need to make it any more difficult there's people I like people maybe I don't like but I don't need to walk around like what good does that do me to do that's but that's me mhm so you know other people do it differently have you ever heard that somebody didn't like you for a reason any any particular reason yeah people thought I was a dick they thought I was like a Loof cuz I when I first started they thought I was like uh you know if you're quiet and you're actually doing well people get in their head and they thought oh he's not talking to me because he doesn't like me it wasn't I was like a mess I was questioning everything that I had done in the previous five minutes but some people took it like he's not talking to me because he doesn't think I'm funny so I definitely had a few of those um and I was also an angry guy so I probably yeah yeah what were you angry about uh Jesus uh just stuff I don't want to get into okay just stuff that makes you be a comedian the US your well I have I have the the you want to talk about hacky I have all the hacky background you need to get into this business so uh you know I could have had a much simpler life I think I think a lot of us I mean I deal with you know anxiety on a high level you know I mean I think a lot of people do but I think most people who have a high level of self-awareness really do because we're just aware that we're dealing with something that we're willing to acknowledge and other people aren't yeah I mean every time I think I'm getting sane I I I don't know something else happens and like you know like having kids and stuff really you know it it really holds a mirror my daughter said the cutest thing to me the other day she goes dad can you stop being mad now and I just bursted out laughing I was like yeah all right all right that's cool but the way I came up I would never say that to my dad so I do feel like uh i' I've done what I do like about my kids is that they're not afraid of me at all they treat me like a freaking bouncy house but um uh so yeah I've tried to I've tried to you know I've tried to undo some things yeah they're not afraid of you cuz you're probably raising them with love our at least my dad he raised me with fear I believe he was afraid that I would make the same mistakes he made oh everyone was afraid of that you were afraid of other people's dads when I was growing up cuz they could hit you yeah you know so like and they had big cars and they were always mad and they were coming home and you just saw like you know like their wife scampering back into the house you know as they were pulling into the driveway yeah they men were scary when I was growing up so I I probably overcorrected MH or whatever but uh I'd rather have him coming up this way yeah my kids are loud you know we were not loud like we were loud when Mom was home when dad was home everybody just shut the hell up and when he left it was like like like a stack of bricks off your chest yeah wait until your dad got home oh my God those were some funny was he actually was a big softy was also it turns out that way my mother was the one that beat us oh damn yeah yeah we deserve it you said earlier you always feel like things will be taken away from you like is that something from childhood or is that cancel culture like what do you mean when you say that no this is before cancel culture well because you I would you would see guys like uh idiots would get a show on the air and then immediately go buy a big house in a car but back the day they would say you got to wait till the third season so you know that it's rolling and you would watch guys blow all their money I watched people get deals up at Montreal and they put it all in the dot stock market I knew that was I I stayed away from that when I was at the comic strip and comedians stopped talking about comedy and they were talking about stocks going like you know it's going to split again it's definitely going to split again I'm like you are a dummy you're a dummy I'm a dummy we should not be talking about this so I didn't put in but I saw guys lose all their money that way um there was guys I used to be you know looking up like oh my God how do you get to that level and then that their stuff starts to go like that like this this business is it's not for the uh for the week and you got to save your money um I don't know I'm trying to come with something positive here it's a fun job though it's a fun job this is a call back but when you saw those white comics on that level did you say to theyself he sucked the dick to get there or did he wear a dress to get there like where does that what is that what is that that stigma come from cuz I'm asking you you brought that up twice oh yeah cuz that's the that's the that's the stigma like you know the stigma is for black Comics you got to wear dress to get to a certain level or you know you who did that according to Cat Williams about 20 Milton Burl Milton Burl made a whole career like be like that comes from vud Williams yeah he played Mrs dfire uh Tom Hanks was on Bosom Buddies oh yeah I mean it was just like it was kind of you know w we don't have a good idea let's put a guy in a dress that's kind of what it was but um I understand um you know that's just one of those white things where I don't have to look at it like oh they're doing this because they're trying to belittle me because they don't see me as human I don't have to deal with all the stuff you guys got to deal with so like I don't know if it it it's how much of that's true how much of it's paranoia I I mean I can't speak on that I have no idea but like um you know I I I don't you never wore dress yeah and that whole suck in a dick thing like it's like you you just sort of no you did said you never wear dress he said n not that all that's whole sucking a diic sh that's not not my no it's more like you create a show you go in you pitch it to these people they somehow take control of it you lose the created by credit they make all the money you don't that's that's the way it usually works it's not it's not like you want a TV show huh all right crawl under my desk and you better do it good cuz I got another 40 guys waiting to suck this dick it's like that's just I think a lot of people want it to be that way yeah because it just makes them feel better about their lives and where the they're at but it's just like yeah like most of Hollywood is overworked underpaid people not getting credit for some that they created and it it happens to everybody it happens at different levels and you have to learn how to protect yourself and um nobody teaches you you just go in there taking punches and then you go oh you know and that that's usually how you learn unless there's a comic that kind of takes you under under his wing or something and teaches you like look out for this they're going to try to do that Damon wayes was great at that oh word I I've heard that before he was great at that like he barely knew me and he you know and he said hey I saw you on TV you funny man we stand out in front of the Celler he goes what do you got going on and he just stood there Damon ways I couldn't believe it he just stood there and for like 20 minutes he's going H huh all right all right this is what they're going to try to do and he just BR I was going like oh my God I know I just did this business was so ruthless but I never forgot that and that was something that I learned it's like all right so if I get somewhere like my job is to tell the younger kids you know how they're going to try to come in that's how they you yeah yeah yeah they don't care about they can get a hooker anytime they want or whatever the hell want they're trying to take your ideas and and get the money they got all kinds of stuff they have like you remember back in the day there was like points on a show how many points you had and they have literally invented points that didn't mean so you would be you got 40 points I only got 30 but mine means something yours don't mean anything it's the whole thing is um uh yeah like here's one for you it's way harder to prove somebody stole from you than defamation of character figure that one out so that basically protects the thief so when somebody steals from you I can't then go around town and say this guy stole from me stay away from him blah blah if that gets back to him he can sue me and he can just come up with the phony cost report well this mouse was $30,000 and this was 15 and and Whittle down what he stole and they get away with it had that experience will it will it ever be fair will there ever be no because human beings are completely flawed and it's God's fault because that's how he makes us so you need to stop going on Sunday praising him you need constructive criticism miss out Jesus Christ people freak out freak out when you when you when you start making fun of God Comfort all right Bill b thank you for joining us I'm down to hear you I'm down to hear it out I'm down all right no I just it's just an astoundingly like uh not even dumb just not have an empathy which is the first level of intelligence is if you can't take yourself out of yourself and look at somebody else see this situation and hear it that there's there's a level of of life and living life you're not going to get ped you're just not going to get ped and also they got to stop naming stuff deliberately confusing like white privilege every white person I knew was like I didn't grow up rich that's how we took that I don't know why I don't know who names the but like I didn't know what it meant I was like what are you talking about I grew up in a duplex with squirrels in the wall so what would you call it what would I call White Privilege no I would uh well that's a good question uh I don't know being white I don't know I don't know being white I'm not I'm this I'm not good at this like coming up with band names and like that but like I it's I didn't love like like it meant how you like moved through the Earth through the world right so one of the things I've been kind of having fun with in the red States is talking about the clan and now there's all this stuff you can't do anymore but you can still join that group and I go that's a great example of white privilege you can grow you can still join a terrorist organization as a white person and it's protected on freedom of speech and they start say well you know I don't want to do the whole bit cuz I want to I want to flesh this thing out for for but that's but they sit there and then um that's one of the most fun things about doing standup is going to a place like that and doing some stuff like that and getting them to hear it and then going to La and kind of doing like the same thing because they think people in Hollywood think that you just put a BLM sign in the window and that means you know you're like a saint and it's like you haven't done anything what you basically did was appeased your your sense of responsibility what are you talking about I I put a signin in the window I'm on the right side of history or my favorite one was was white people Marching In BLM marches filming themselves or Instagram like look what a great person I am so I was just like I don't know I don't know I human beings are are interesting is there comedy to be found in this year's election uh I mean the joke I've been doing that like this election is like you know when Hollywood makes a shitty movie you're like man that movie sucked and then two years later there's like a sequel and you're like they're making another one of these yeah yeah that's how I look at this I think basically it's not worth the job's not worth the headache and I think that the house and the Senate basically voting that you can't can't prosecute us for insider trading and they're all worth 20 to $40 million and you watch CNN and Fox News you know who supposed to be these journalists just completely leave them alone it's like why do I want that job I can just sit here no one knows who I am other than in my state I can make my 40 million move to another state no one knows who I am you know get a boat and some Coke and some and I'm good right like that's like that's how like they look at it like CNN and fox if I was running CNN and Fox News would be shut down they they are anti-American all they do every day their business is to divide us and um and then who they go after they just go after the reason why comedians have been getting so much is because we don't advertise on their their Network so we're just soft targets right that's like at the beginning of the pandemic you remember that kid who uh he hoarded all the hand sanitizer one of the greatest gambles ever cuz they always SARS is coming and all of this this kid said all right I think this stuff is real and he had a whole garage full of hand sanitizer and he was up in the price by 100% and seeing ah they were just dragging this kid how could you how could you do that and then meanwhile like big pharmaceutical companies it's like 460 bucks for a leukemia pill and that's totally fine why is that fine because they're making money off them so they're not going to like you know bite the hand that feeds so this is the that like you think about when you're alone a lot on the road and it eventually makes you go crazy so I just I have decided when I I just sort of like I I don't pay attention to like anything I I try not to but then and when I do it's like heartbreaking like there's there's a u there's a documentary about the Ukraine that came out one an Oscar and I just saw the trailer I like I I just the watch most heartbreaking thing you've ever seen yeah um it's almost like ignorance is bliss right like that's what you realize the less you know the happier you are yeah or like uh I don't know yeah it's weird it's weird and then dumb people think they know everything MH let me show you how this works I got it all figured out yeah so that's what I realized yeah I don't know does cancel culture uh scare you at all does it made you change your said you see a lot of comedians change they set change how they they talk change what they talk about uh well that was something that like most movements started with something good M you know and then was quickly co-opted by people with their own interest and then it just completely lost its way and like is it good though CU cuz medians were usually the ones that didn't care about like talk about everything make you laugh you know but if there was people no initial thing that there's these people out there sexually abusing people like that was good to get rid of those people that that wasn't bad but then all of a sudden it spun into what are you talking about in your act you know I worked with an actor she got she got cancelled for an analogy analogy and it was all politics uh the girl on Star Wars uh it was she didn't want to get the um she didn't want to get the CO shot and then she made some sort of Nazi Germany analogy right oh that'll do it yeah that that'll do it no it'll do if it if it goes against the politics if it went AC if she was coming the other way if she was coming like the other way then I don't think it doesn't land that way because I gotta be honest with you like Hitler and Nazi analogies in comedy are like are uh are hacky it's forever been this guy's the next Hitler blah blah blah blah blah blah or something like that so you know like I don't know it's so it's it's it's I kind of like didn't really notice it was happening that I was kind of on stage going like oh I just said that what if somebody just takes that clip and does I I didn't realized I was doing that till I I did uh Dave Chappelle was doing covid shows and I went there and nobody had a phone and just the freedom of that not like I was going to go up and say something ignorant but just not having to worry about that when they were really kind of common for people cuz I think it's like died down but there was a while it just seemed like they had to throw a Log on the Fire every month and whether they had somebody or not and um the wrong Nazi Germany Hitler reference will get you in any error I look it's all it depends on your in no no it depends on your intent I did Nazi jokes when I was in Germany and they were dying laughing because it was just like oh give us one give us one what EDI is it what was it oh my goodness I was just talking about all their accomplishments I go you know what's amazing about you guys you know all the accomplishments you made you know with the automobile you know Weaponry uh audio tape I just was listing all their accomplishments I go and then you just pick one wrong guy and it all goes to hell and I just started talking about it's true yeah because and then they filmed it so they can't refute it oh that was a joke I was doing yeah how Germany they actually have shame for what they did and it's not because they're better white people it's because they're oppressed people one so they have to they have to acknowledge it denotification though that is that's what that's what that was yeah it was them having shame for what they did and you know cleaning everything up I find Neo like neo-nazis are are fascinating to me because like they're all like the support the troops people and they're like neo-nazis and it's like well you know the troops were fighting the Nazis like just how all of that gets blurred after time it's weird n that one little piece you just said Neo nais are fascinating to me yeah clip that throw it on Twitter oh yeah there it is you have a field day I find them intriguing how big of a deal is it now for a comedian to have a special uh yeah I still think it's it's a uh to have a good one if you have a whatever one it's I don't know what it's going to do for you but uh um I'm old school I still like I'm like one of those you know the guys now in in in your business they just make singles and stuff like that so that's starting to become that like have a special chop it up that's what the younger kids are doing I'm still of the I'm still making albums so I don't know if that's stupid or whatever but that's um that's how I do it but I I'm also on the belief that like as long as you're doing quality people are going to come and see you yeah and stayc consistent this feels like a comedy Ted Talk he's a very in-depth question I let's just want to know I'm enjoying it and I was I was performing at fway Park oh that was one of those things that was so big like I don't think I even mentally dealt it with it until like two years after I did it 35,000 people yeah something like that um I felt like I was in Leed Zeppelin they had a police escort we drove into the thing you know what's good was I was there for a week CU I got family up there so I always go back in the summer and um you got a family up there I have F like family like relatives retiv no no no I've lived a lot of lives a family a waitress early on in my career we're in a good place now um no I I was and I was walking around town and people hey man you know good luck on the show you know blah blah so I kind of felt like the city was behind me which was another thing to like have to like think about so uh yeah I went up there and what I didn't realize is like they they've so perfected the sound and the screens and everything it was just like this giant Comedy Club he always killing me people kept going like just make sure you take it all in when you're up there just make sure you know you take a moment for yourself it's like this is comedy I can't do that the second I take a moment for myself I'm immediately bombing so what I kept doing was during bigger laughs was just looking out over home plate where it said Fenway Park and that was that just it was mind-blowing and uh yeah and then we got they let us hang up in right field smoking cigars and we my my family we used to always get tickets the blue seats up in right field so I was kind of up there it was really uh yeah that was something so that was that was a one time only cuz I you want to do it again it's like no no I don't think there's any point to go back lot of request for tickets um oh from PE uh you know it wasn't that bad it wasn't that bad you know what was was nerve-wracking though was my high school reunion also was there so they just decided to go to the show and that and it's just like that's just like a weird thing where like when I meet people from high school like you know I had a really cool class so like I'm still the person I was and and and so are they it's just I'm doing this weird thing so that was kind of um I had to block that out a little bit right to be like you know all those girls you were afraid to talk to you go back to being like you know Little Billy redheaded kid in like ninth grade so I had to like okay I got to block this out and do my job you didn't to stun on him a little bit nah that I my time to do that I blew it and I just accepted it I took the loss and I kept moving forward I don't do I don't go back yeah yeah no you married right yeah to a black woman if I'm not mistaken yeah how does that happen how does that happen how does that happen I'm saying a white guy from I watch like you know I watched Different Strokes growing up and I had a crush on Janet Jackson yeah yeah um how does that happen um where'd you meet her first time I met her I was with her dad who was booking the Apollo so I was doing Showtime with the Apollo and she was standing out back oh she's black black so why they never had any lightskinned black people at the Apollo um it was uh my wife is gorgeous she's gorgeous so that was one thing but I I didn't really I I was I came when was coming up the back stairs and someone was getting booed and I just remember thinking like why am I doing this I didn't need to do this this all started with like that Patrice where he was always you know with you so he was like he' have a good set and he would and then he started talking about talent's room Talent Will's room around the corner saying like you know there's a bunch of comics over there that 10 times funnier than all you white guys and da d da d da and you know so it kind of felt like all right he was like I just won a championship and somebody saying know there's some guys across the Way That Could Kick Your Ass they're not allowed in the league so it's like all right I got to go play them so I started doing those rooms and then that led and then I was thinking like well this would be great I'll do the black rooms I'll also do the white rooms and then I can get that draw that crowd that I heard on those Richard PRI albums M uh um didn't happen uh but I ended up doing the Apollo and uh that's where I met her but I met her again on tough crowd she was doing tough crowd with Colin Quinn and we kind of hit it off and um I remember I just kept asking her around she just kept being a jerk and right as I was typical woman right the second I was like you know what the hell with her the hell with her ended up running into her and then all of a sudden she was like really nice and we were hanging out oh my God this guy was blocking me so bad that night on such an epic level you don't blame him obviously no it's cuz no if it be no why what do you mean I mean cuz she's so beautiful that you understand why he would C that's not why he was doing okay no now you don't have all the information okay give me information is this guy's advocating this it's like how did you get that chair advocating that um no he was doing it cuz he was miserable in his own relationship so like he saw me like and it was like you know it was like fireworks like we just like I mean she first sight basically it it yeah like i' I've only met two people that had like a Vibe like her in my life um and the first one was a dude he was just so that wasn't happening was no he was like No just walked in the room you know and you just knew the person was coming in the room she has that Vibe right so uh hold on you got to clear that up I want to be clear about that you didn't date the guy nothing no I'm just I just going to make sure when you guys going to let when are black people to let go this homophobia you always got to check like what are you doing with your manicured eyebrows like I'm going to sit here and act like you're all good over there like you don't swing a Lego over the fence every once in a while wait a minute you got sandals on and white socks you look like you just came from a steam room yeah um no I just mean like like I I always paid attention to energy cuz my energy was terrible I was like all introverted and blah blah blah blah so I was fascinated with people that were just free so that's what I meant got you got you got okay we going to go back to sucking dick for a show again guy's a one trick pony over here um so we go we go to like hang out right no so we're like vibing and everything and I literally had to say to the dude he was like a chick I had to be like hey man sorry I'm not paying attention to you that's all that was I was just like you know I'm hitting it off with him I think this is going all right right so the end of the Night Comes the end of the standup show and he just comes walking over he goes he just goes so you you guys want to go get something to eat right and he invites her and everybody now I'm at this table and there was like you know 10 other people there and he's all the way down the end and he's still like yelling down trying to interrupt any of my talking to her I think I mean so long ago I just remember one point the check came and I didn't have any money so I said I'll put just give me the cash I'll put it on my card he's like oh he's just trying to get the miles like that's that's how he was doing it right ha so everybody goes to leave and now it's just oh no no no it was in the middle of the dinner right or whatever the we were doing the block dinner right and I finally just look at her I just give up right cuz he won't shut the up and I finally just looked at her I go can I at least split a cab with you home so she does that female thing why do you want to split a cab with me I just said it all right I was just thinking I go cuz I want to kiss you okay right so she put her head down and smiled and I was like I got her this guy so I let him do all his everybody leaves except for him me and who's going to become my future wife and he literally goes he goes Nia he goes where do you live where do you live do you live uptown and she goes yeah I live up to go I love it too he goes you want to split a cab he's trying to leave with her and she goes no I'm taking a ride home I'm riding home with Bill he's going like oh no I he was so in his he was so in his like he didn't said not going to say his name she went so and so I'm splitting a cab with Bill and I I didn't have to I didn't have to say I just stood there and then he he left and it was funny in the rest history I don't talk to him for four days and he calls me up he's like hey uh you know what's going on like nothing what's up he's like uh so like what you're not going to you didn't call me cuz you thought I was blocking you the other night I'm like you were he goes no I wasn't I'm like why did you bring it up so that was the end of that friendship you know I just don't have time I don't have time for that yeah yeah yeah you know what I mean and plus it was also kind of teetering anyways you know it was obvious too it's like yeah you know your your woman failed to WNBA joke is one of the greatest social commentaries ever yeah thank you I'd really I mean I'm I'm just I'm saying yes I appreciate that how how did you get how did you get to that conclusion I was watching ESPN and they were blaming they were talking about like female sports not getting money and stuff like that and all of that and like he just being an entertainment it's like you have to put asses in the seats and that's what brings the money in so there was a point where you know professional football wasn't doing as well as college football and the these guys just kept working it and working it till it became like what it was and you know there's more women than there are men so like this is not on us that women's sports at the very least aren't being supported so they're not being supported because you guys aren't showing up so that was the seed of the bit and um I I always forget my material I forget how you pointed to what what actually is successful that women support oh yeah oh yeah yeah reality TV yeah which is a bunch of women yelling at each other yeah and fighting yeah throwing juice and drinks and water yeah my wife likes those shows have you seen the Texas uh the the former Texans oppy that place for the Steelers now Cameron Johnson and they they when the headline says Steelers signed billberg look alike oh yeah I've seen that that's scary yeah that's scary yeah I I I concur that guy does definitely look like me would have been cooler if he was a quarterback but that shows how popular you are though correct oh yeah I guess so I don't think any of that really yeah no that's the end of you that's the end that's the end of you walking around these I I don't know I I actually I kind of appreciate people that feel that way about themselves and also I don't understand it but I mean when you standing there those people do that with their shirt blowing in front of a fan in front of their own audience that is hilarious to me I don't think you can go that far but when you think about your hum Beginnings why you got the sandals on I can see you doing that blowing your hoodie around I'm just going to do it to you before you do it to me how many times have you washed that sweatshirt by the way that look new is it yeah that looks like a gu sweatshirt threw it in with the towels or something bleach okay oh it's tie dye yeah but when you think about your humble beginnings and then you think about finway Park like you got to take that in a little bit like I came a long way at least I I I did I did but like I get I'm too afraid to that's basically what it is I'm too afraid to look at what I'm doing in situations like that because I need to perform so if I get all into the you know start thinking of the magnitude of something um I just literally saw Kevin Hart's picture on the door man it's one of my favorite people in the business yeah Kevin bought he used to buy us chairs so that's why we have him sitting in that chair cuz he bought for the old Studio he bought all the chairs he's one of my favorite people all I do our whole relationship is just giving each other I don't think I've ever had an actual conversation anyway um yeah I don't I don't think of stuff like that so um I I I minimize minimize minimize minim so um because I had horrible anxiety when I started out um yeah so I had to figure out how to get the only way I could figure out how to get it past it was to look at the stuff that I was doing and act like it wasn't a big deal it's just a job they come in here they get sitters and pay you know money to come here I come here I make them laugh they leave hopefully they come back and I just sort of reduce it to that and then I don't know then I come on a show like this and you start bringing the stuff up and that's when I I think that's when I first start thinking about them mhm look at me I'm getting uncomfortable now look at the ready to go ready to go no not no just thinking talking about that that all comes back also comes back to like um just like uh I don't know this weird like low self-esteem and then also like um um not accepting compliments I haven't figured that part of me out pasta syndrome oh my God 100% 100% 100% first time uh yeah I always like that's the thought that I every time I get off stage my thought is did I make them laugh enough that they're going to come back and I I club soda Kenny I always like he like reassures me club soda candy club club soda Kenny is my uh Club sod of candy what' you say Kenny Kenny oh Kenny see now I'm suspicious of you now you're talking about sweets crazy I'm just doing it back to you um uh club soda candy Legend uh um former police officer tour manager and uh security guy this he's like I made a I made a short film with him okay I got I got to put it up on your your website um so he's the guy when I get off stage he's you know works with dice he's worked with everybody and uh so he knows and he's also you know he's a cop Jersey guy you know he talks like this like straight shooter he's not going to be like no that was a good one that was good blah blah blah and then you know if I get the pat on the back I know I I had a good one so um yeah that that is my thought I don't walk off stage you know oh God I'm not going to use that reference that'll start some um I don't walk off stage thinking I'm the I walk off stage thinking I I hope that was good enough that they come back so well that was crazy CU I I'm literally still Star Struck just by remember when I just walked past the room and I was like oh Bill Bill bur how you doing and he was just looking like hey what's up like not at all like oh yeah you know I am that guy you know it was just real real cool and the first time you you made me laugh was um racial drafts uh the Dave Chappelle skit that you did three when it came out but I watched it because I I was a big fan of Chapo show and then every special that was one of the coolest things first really cool thing that I ever got on where it was like I got to experience it was like Beetle Mania and I only did like most you listen probably like who the hell were you on that first of all I had hair and I only did like you know four or five was a commentator yeah so um I remember uh I was at this thing bonaroo you guys ever heard of bonaroo oh you have all right okay so bonaroo is like this sort of uh you know this this music festival in Nashville it was one of the early years of it was a lot of jam bands it was some really like earthy smelly white people sort of out in the field type of thing not not a city kid Vibe so it was pretty white not country white but damn close right and the lights went down and I was seeing like this this band what the hell would they call prais like brain was on drums Bernie W was sort of this offshoot band and the lights went down and there was like 10,000 people in this tent and the lights went down and they were waiting for the band and I just heard this dude just go what and then somebody else on the other side yelled yeah and then somebody else yelled okay dude I got like Goosebumps and it was like it was like right when it was I think it was right after um Rick James sketch had already like blown up and I I saw like how big this show was on like I couldn't I I couldn't believe it and there was like comedians were telling me going dude that show you're on is blowing up I just did a college gig and like say it came on at like 10: or something like that on Comedy Central and their show was at 9:30 like they would be doing a show trying to do an hour at 10:00 like 5 or 10 half the crowd would just get up and leave and he'd be like you know thinking what did I say well we're going to go watch the Chappelle show um I don't know if anything gets that big again with with all of this med but it was like um when everybody brings up you know the Rick James won and and and all of that the I will tell you this the lawn order sketch that I was in the first cut of that I think Comedy Central thought was too dark oh my God it was like it was like a Oscar winning movie CU it was hilarious and then it was like when the white dude was in prison in the end the way they did it and they cut to Dave laughing on the golf course it wasn't funny it was like this is what you do to us it was it was like Wow s then Comic Center like oh you know we uh thinking there's a different ending they like it oh bring it a little bit but there was a that was another thing too I remember uh they used to edit it right up the street from where I was living and I remember Neil Brennan Neil going you got to you got to come see this and I got to see them the the Rick James sketch before anybody else and I remember laughing my ass off and there just became a point I stopped laughing and I was just like this is like I've never seen anything like this in my life um yeah so that was probably the uh the first kind of still like the one of the coolest things I got to be on I met Charlie Murphy Charlie Murphy yeah rest his soul he's up there too we got him up there up there in the corner y oh yeah yep oh man the stories that went with that guy yeah he had oh my God his stories he had endless he told this story one time and it was all stuff from the 80s it would be so like y yo I was at this party it was me Sugar Ray Leonard and punky rooster right just going like going like what like what party is this right it was just all these like ' 80s icons right and he was talking about sugaray Leonard being drunk talking about how he how quickly he could throw punches at your ribs and not hit you and and he said that these white guys were letting him do it he was drunk and he kept hitting him and they would like fold in half and he was crying laughing telling him and I was going why the would they do I don't know um that's the nicer one I can tell um so that's the funny thing about Chappelle when you look at Chappelle now you you rewatch it you'll see you you'll see Joe Rog you'll see Neil brenon you'll see all of these people who have gone on to be you know icons in their own right now yeah Dave gave me one of uh one of the greatest pep talks I ever got I ever got like it's funny because I'm older than Dave but Dave started so young I always look at him like an an older brother right and uh I was doing some at the seller you know and I got off stage and he was sitting on the stairs fortunately I didn't know he was there I would at that point in my career I would have been like intimidated somebody that big watching me and I remember him telling he's like man your your point of view was so dope man and he goes It's Gonna but it's going to take you a lot longer to get there but when you do you're going to hit hard and I dude I held on to that uh for like seven years on the road going Dave thinks I'm funny Dave thinks I'm funny it's though yeah he was right that's right yeah definitely is Bill bird man for joining us all right thank you for having you guys were nice everybody got me all nervous like you guys are let's not go why let's not go why you know why you know why it ain't over yet so leave I got be honest with you I listened I listened to One Clip and I shut it off after 8 seconds you what clip was it somebody said something like well you know sometimes uh sometimes I whatever the hell he was talking about and I just hear you go why would you do that just going like oh is it going to be this no cuz Larry King always says the best question to ask is why cuz people say and I really do be curious I'm like well why why is always the best question to ask that's a better yeah it's a better why your why wasn't that wasn't the read go go back and watch some of the other it was like the the the sub text was why the would you do that well it's the same thing depends what it is no it isn't but I had I had a good time thank you hey there's my insecurity I hope you have me back you'd love to know that there's a lot of people I know that that hold you in very very high regard but young comedians older I like Pete Davidson always talks about you all the time Ricky J like oh yeah Pete I remember uh Pete was another guy he had that Vibe he was just memorable I met him he was like like like 12 13 years old already as tall as me and I remember years later he started doing stany four years later he goes I don't know if you remember I just I remember I said Atlantic City you were standing there with your mom so all right how many times we going to wrap this up that's I think it's done all right thank you so much I really appreciate what you said Bill bur all right thank you it's The Breakfast Club good morning wake That Ass Up 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