Big Bang Just DISPROVEN?! Joe Rogan & Stephen C. Meyer

James web James web telescope there's been a lot of media uh reports suggesting that the findings of the James web telescope have undermined the case for The Big Bang but there's an interesting backstory on this most of these media reports were based on the writings of a single physics researcher named Eric larner who's been since 1990 kind of carrying a torch uh to refute the Big Bang one of his his articles quoted a university of Kansas astrophysicist uh saying that she stays up late at night wondering if based on the on the the James web that everything that we know is turning out to be false turns out that that researcher uh that that astrophysicist disclaimed his use of the quote explaining that he took it completely out of context that she was talking about theories of Galaxy formation not about whether or not there had been a big bang and not about whether or not the universe is expanding as we would expect so he's confirmation bias yeah conf and and in a sense also taking somebody way out of context to make a point of his own you know he he he misused the quotation on purpose apparently and there have been a number of leading astrophysicists in fact people who would like you know to know more about this I'd recommend Brian keing from University of California San Diego great astrophysicist has been writing about this and but here here's the short story I wrote a an oped in the daily wired distilling some of this stuff what the James web telescope is able to do is to in fact was what it was constructed to do was to detect extremely long wavelength radiation stuff that's outside the visible range I call it Uber red shifted the te it's actually in the infrared range is the more uh accurate physics uh term so it's looking for very long wavelength uh radiation coming from galaxies that are very very far out there now why would it be looking for that well because if the universe is expanding as we would expect based on the Big Bang the Theory then the the radiation coming from things very very far out in space and therefore very far back in time should be very stretched out more stretched out than stuff that's closer at hand uh so the James web was constructed in hopes of detecting that type of radiation if it existed it's not assuming that it necessarily would but it would be a way of confirming the expansion of the universe has been going on for a very long time and in order to do that the uh NASA people created an amazing technology they super cooled the detection techn or the detection apparatus to I think five six seven degrees above absolute zero so that the heat coming off of the instrument itself was not creating infrared that would that would uh interfere and what they were in fact able to detect from these very ancient very distant galaxies was super red shifted radiation Uber red shifted stuff out in the infrared and we're able on the the basis of that to synthesize images of these very very distant remote galaxies now the very fact that they were able to do that confirms that you have that what you would expect on the basis of the Big Bang Fury that you would that the amount of red shift that you would expect to be present if in fact the galaxies had been expanding throughout that vast stretch of time was in fact present and was detected now that didn't get reported there were what the whole Focus was on the fact that there were galaxies that were more mature there were more of them early on than we would have expected based on our theories of Galaxy formation and so those are anomalies that need to be addressed and have not yet been explained as I understand it maybe the astrophysicist have made more progress on that in even recent recent days but the basic picture of an expanding Universe outward from the beginning has not been undermined but rather confirmed in a very dramatic way I think it's a rather dramatic confirmation there have been many others the cosmic background radiation that was discovered in 1965 the Kobe radiation of George that George smot discovered in the 90s so there's been this pattern of confirming evidence of this basic picture of an expanding Universe out from the beginning in in observational astronomy from the 20s right up till now and so that I think gives us good reason to think best we can tell the universe at a beginning can I pause you on that what is the the when she was discussing the the formation of galaxies what what had thrown that into question like what what was about the formation of galaxies that undermined previous ideas as I understand it it's that there were are more galaxies that formed earlier and are more mature than we would have expected because they were able to do look back to 13.5 13.6 billion years ago they think the origin of the universe is about 13.8 billion years ago so apparently galaxies were forming faster than we would have expected and I think that's the anomaly that is on the table but is it possible that with further further detection we can with new data have a better understanding of what is actually going on rather than just saying it all points to this thing yeah it's always possible that we can change our minds on things because science is always provisional but there are many stable theories that have persisted because of a preponderance of evidence that points to and continues to point to the same conclusion and I think we've had a hundred years now where we've had repeated new types of observations that point towards a beginning

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Length: 5min 33sec (333 seconds)

Published: Tue Dec 12 2023