Is Our Universe ACTUALLY 26 Billion Years Old? The Joe Rogan Experience

so this claim of 26 billion years is that does it make any sense it can make sense in the in the following context imagine you see a planet and on that planet there are people and they're they're playing around with like these electrified pieces of silicon and you'd be like wait a second like that's really weird like that planet's only four billion years old how is it possible that they're not only able to to talk on electrified silicon but they're also like having an internet and space flight no no no it takes longer in my model of how civilizations form it must have taken 8 billion years for that to happen so therefore there it's impossible to reconcile with the Earth being 4.3 billion years old therefore the Earth must be 8 billion years old what he said this guy Gupta said there are properties of galaxies they're rotating they're appearing too early on the universe's early history to have developed into the spiral characteristics and the population distribution of them is too numerous to have occurred in a universe that's only quote unquote 13 billion years and you actually said that you said like I always thought you know 13 billion is a pretty big number you know now they're saying 27 so what's the difference but there's a big difference because implicit in that criticism is that there are flaws and and Imperfections in how we understand the Big Bang okay when in reality at best he could be correct about the formation of galaxies but you see those are two separate things right the formation and the structure of a galaxy has no bearing on how old the UN universe is necessarily it tells you something about your models of computer simulations is what he's effectively criticizing not criticizing the evidence that something like a Big Bang occurred at a very definite point in the universe's past that we believe to about one to the we have equivalent Precision for me to say I know how old you are exactly but but if you looked at a 50-year-old person you could say you know the day they were born plus or minus a week like that's the Precision with which monitors astronomers know the age of the universe and one guy is coming up with this idea that because there's certain galaxies within it that have formed this I again imagine if we found like a hyper Advanced civilization that has warp drives and you know does every type three Dyson civilizations or whatever they would not cast doubt on the evolution and the history of the universe itself that would not cause me to question that it would cause me to question my models of how po people form and Aliens form and stuff like that but it wouldn't cause me to question the age of the universe there's nothing related to it when we are studying the age of the universe and the vastness of space is there potentially new technology that would expose more than we currently can view that would change your model in the sense that we are JNS a scientist especially me as an experimentalist in contrast to people like Brian Cox um Neil degrass Tyson Eric Weinstein Etc my job is not to prove theories right my job is actually to prove them wrong that's really what I get paid to do is to narrow and winnow out so much so that what is left is the truth there's a quote by Isaac azimov he said if you think the Earth is flat you're wrong if you think it's a perfect sphere you're also wrong because it's not a perfect sphere it actually bulges at the equator it has properties you know because the Earth is spinning and the way it forms a little bit like a pair okay um so it's also not but it's much less wrong to say it's a sphere than to say it's flat our job is to find the flaws in the existing paradigms shatter those and refine those and there's countless you know examples of that throughout scientific history so there are ways that I would be caused to doubt the formation story of galaxies absolutely I mean that's almost like predicting hurricanes you know I just came through a hurricane to see you right there's a big hurricane in San Diego this week and like it's like an inch of rain okay you know how we drive in Southern California right um so even a slick of trace of rain causes us to go into into total Terror um but uh but we didn't know where was going to make exact landfall cuz climate is an example not of something that's merely complicated it's complex the best way to simulate the earth's climate is with another Earth in other words there's no irreducible way to reduce the amount of complexity to describe a physical system than the system itself that's a notion of complexity that's a definition of complexity so in the context of what you said absolutely and people like Allison and others Kat they definitely are would be more thrilled than anybody to discover well we didn't understand there's something wrong with our model of how the universe for not how the universe formed but how galaxies form so what I'm asking is with the levels of detection that we have available how significant is the change in what the web is able to do and is it possible that like when we're looking are is is it whatever levels of detection whatever methods of detection we have now is it absolute that if you go to 13 whatever billion years is it possible that with new technology we would get more information we'd be able to see more and then you would remap this idea yes and the good news is that's what the Simons Observatory is trying to do the web telescope has was never built for nor can it say anything about the Big Bang or what caused the big bang or it's just Galaxy formations it's it's not just by the way it's it's that's a pretty big deal but it's Galaxy formation properties the Stars exoplanets the atmospheres the chemistry uh civilizations on EXO it can do so much cool stuff

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Length: 5min 43sec (343 seconds)

Published: Sat Oct 07 2023