Beyond The Boundaries: The Harvey Weinstein Scandal (Full Documentary) | Real Crime

so hot in that place and so sexy you just get crazy thoughts there he's good really good he's good he's wonderful she's got a she certainly does people believe in you and it's not been fair that you've used the power the gift that you have you've turned it into such a corruption to take advantage of other people i had kind of created a safeguard of how i could avoid those situations and i never was in a hotel room with him alone again you're meeting with like a very powerful guy in hollywood that makes a lot of actresses careers happen so when he said to go to the peninsula i just thought you know that's a bar so fine um so we met at the bar there and we kind of talked for a few minutes and then he didn't really ask me just said we're going upstairs like to my room and i didn't really know how to take that i'm like what do you i just i didn't know how to say no to someone like him at the time which i regret the next thing i knew he had unzipped his fly and pulled out his penis my heart started pounding my mind started racing how do i deal with this how do i get out of this am i going to get out of this how is this happening he then grabbed my hand and pulled me towards him and forced my hand onto his penis and held it there he said name anyone any actress you can think of and this is how they made it i have told parts of this story to only a very few people over the years i felt so powerless because he is after all very powerful and very well known and very successful i didn't think anyone would believe me i was nobody i would think [Music] harvey thinks that he was in an alternate reality actually he thinks he's gonna wake up and this is not the real thing harvey weinstein has been a mogul in the entertainment industry for decades and it really started in independent film and i think that's where a lot of people got to know him and his brother bob from miramax the film company and especially in the 90s when independent film was just absolutely everything they started to get more and more power in hollywood their company was eventually bought by disney and of course that brought them more money more power and i think that allure you know having a film made by miramax made by disney was a really big deal harvey weinstein was someone you know he was this kid from queens new york him and his brother they started off as concert promoters harvey always had his plan in place you know he wanted to be a huge hollywood player and he became that miramax became especially known for their oscar pushes for films they were the studio that if you wanted to hold up that golden statue at the end of the season that you should go to so they had countless hits including pulp fiction shakespeare and love and through those they allowed their actors and actresses to say thank you to the academy i'm one of those kids from brooklyn and queens who used to watch the oscars and like root and cheer and had dreams and i just wanted to dedicate this as everybody does mine and he had all those kids out there and tell them to break the rules [Music] harvey was never liked uh people feared him people wanted to work with him people wanted him to put them on screen to get them an oscar and he literally bought oscars for everybody no one to this day can explain how shakespeare and love beat saving private ryan for best academy award for best picture the reason harvey weinstein and the same guy who was powerful enough to beat steven spielberg as best picture was powerful enough to shut up any actress any starlet who complained about the fact that he wanted to get naked with her be cast in a miramax movie or a weinstein company movie that's huge that's big especially for someone who's just starting out you know harvey was seen as someone who championed these smaller films more artistic he was an actor's producer a director producer for more refined tastes so you know to be cast in a miramax movie to know that harvey was behind you it was you know it was a great badge of honor in this town you know to know that harvey weinstein was you know pushing you for an award for an oscar you couldn't have asked for a better strategist well miramax unfortunately don't have the name but i think with directors like quentin tarantino robert rodriguez anthony mangela john madden marty scorsese all coming with the new company it's sort of the ongoing business without mom and dad's name we still own the name dimension and and if anybody can come up with a better name than the weinstein company we're all ears nothing's better than the weinstein brothers so the name is great i got to thinking about what a great producer he is and what it takes to be such a great producer because you know i've made so many movies and i've worked with so many different kind of producers and really to be a great producer takes such heart to really put such love and care and guts and goals into really making a movie come together it takes so much you have to fight tooth and nail to make a movie really come together in the way that harvey's made so many great movies over all these years and to have him stand up for his artists and for the scripts and for making those movies come together harvey is an unbelievably astonishing killer producer and his love for that and for his people is just legendary and i just want you to know miriam your mom who i know has raised a really good son and i'm proud so thank you winning the best picture helps make the night go great and best actor didn't hurt and best director didn't hurt that and screenplay wasn't bad either so it was pretty great at this point in your career i mean these things still surprise you are you i loved it it's fun come on i've been loving this since you're a kid this is every it's like the world series for guys okay so what happened with harvey we all knew he was a bully and bully's putting it lightly you know bully sort of encompasses everything now you know from you know simple name calling to you know physical attacks but he was mean he was degrading he had no problems calling someone stupid um dumb uh throwing things at people flipping tables everyone knew what he was this is again this is not a surprise we all knew what a monster he was when the new york times broke the story it wasn't the first time a news outlet had tried uh new york magazine new york times both had tried in the past to do a piece about harvey weinstein and all the rumors uh both times they were scuppered by harvey's team of legal uh eagles who threatened and you know called up and screamed and and and pulled out all these reasons why they were going to sue if the stories went public when the new york times actually published the piece i believe that it was their thorough reporting and also the willingness of a respectable actress such as ashley judd to go on the record about what had happened to her which gave it believability and credibility [Music] [Music] [Music] ashley judd's sit down with diane sawyer is incredibly powerful in in great part because she is a truly evolved human being she talks about her belief in a loving god and at the very end she says i believe that harvey weinstein deserves forgiveness he deserves a chance he deserves to be loved um and it was so gracious that it just leaves you kind of with your mouth a gape and how she could be so polite how she could be so forgiving how she could be so kind to a man who is without question a complete monster i wish i could prevent i wish i could prevent it for anyone always i don't know that i would have been believed and who was i to tell i first heard the name zelda as harvey's assistant about 10 years ago way before this happened uh she had signed an nda but she was a friend of a friend and i had heard through that friend that some very unpalatable things had happened during her time at miramax which is why she left she was not happy and uh she was disturbed by a lot of it and then of course you know you fast forward to the scandal breaking and zelda very bravely decided to come forward against her the terms of her nda and and speak her truth and i think what i found most um insightful about what zelda had to say was to try and explain how this happened you know everybody can read about this and think well why did they go in his hotel room and why did they allow themselves in to get in this position and you you can you can judge and criticize but what zelda explained was look harvey regularly did meetings in his hotel room he had a suite he always had a suite so there was a living room so male and female industry players went up to his room until he took meetings there male directors male agents they sat in the suite and they took meetings so for ashley judd to go up to his hotel suite was not her um doing anything that other people and men had done hadn't done previously harvey took meetings in his room zelda also went on to kind of explain that the position he was in how much power he had how attractive that was people wanted his attention people wanted to take meetings with him people wanted to be around him he used abused and manipulated this power but it's undeniable that he had that power the reason he was able to get away with so much of this is because people were afraid to turn him down harvey wants to see you in his hotel suite of course you're thinking maybe i can get a job maybe he'll cast me in his next movie it it it was a very difficult decision to make and a lot of actresses who are now speaking out saying that you know they went up to his room and he was naked he was in his bathrobe he asked for a naked massage he wanted to watch tim shower horrified horrified and shocked but the the hotel room thing zelda very very clearly explains was was something that everybody did it wasn't just women but the women of course were the ones who were preyed upon [Music] in 1997 rose mcgowan attended the sundance film festival along with ben affleck matt damon and harvey weinstein there was an incident that happened in the hotel suite on the top floor where harvey weinstein according to rose raped her this is something that rose is talking about in her book brave where she details her experience at the hands of the hollywood monster what's further disturbing is that rose came down the next day and told according to her ben affleck and matt damon what harvey had done to her and the reaction was to uh i i told him to stop doing that you know it wasn't call the police um you know what can we do to help let's call a um a lawyer let's prosecute him it was i told him to stop doing that it was shrugged off it was minimized it was brushed off and as rose says now that experience in that hotel room has been strapped to her back for 20 years [Music] [Music] everybody knew about harvey weinstein everybody knew about his behavior yet nobody did anything that made it almost impossible for anybody to come forward and make any accusation so for instance a video surfaced of courtney love saying how to get on in hollywood and what to do and what to avoid in hollywood and she said if you get asked to go into a private party by harvey weinstein at the four seasons hotel decline it do you have any advice for a young girl moving to hollywood um i'll get live with myself harvey weinstein invites you to a private party and enforcing i'm telling you right now what do we have to do here i think i'm going to take a shower you sit there and have a drink walk don't drink can i stay on the bar no you must come here now no please no i don't want to i'm not doing anything with one of the most astonishing stories we heard um was gwyneth paltrow coming forward and saying she too was sexually harassed by harvey weinstein early in her career but then we were even more astonished that um we found out that brad pitt who she was with at the time confronted harvey and said don't ever do this to her again that he literally poked him in the chest to think of that experience you know we're all imagining brad pitt confronting harvey weinstein everyone was shocked not only did brad pitt confront a man who sexually harassed gwyneth paltrow but that man was at the height of his power this was you know the heyday of miramax so for brad to do that i imagine he was probably nervous too he was probably nervous about his career also but it's pretty it's it's an incredible story i would like to thank harvey weinstein and everybody at miramax films for their undying support of me gwyneth paltrow says that when she was only 22 years old that weinstein invited her to a hotel room for a meeting and then propositioned and sexually harassed her paltrow's allegations have become some of the most widespread in hollywood where the women have said that weinstein invited them to a hotel room and under the guise of the meeting and then asked them to give him a massage or ask to be able to massage them that seemed to be his tactic i had seen harvey weinstein on a host myriad of red carpets but i first actually spoke to him at the launch of talk magazine in 1999. it was a big party and they'd taken all the top press out to ellis island where he arrived for the launch of his new magazine talk magazine was going to be a way for him by the way to control more journalists because it was going to option these great articles kind of vanity fair style into movies and television programs and it was for a way for him to expand his media empire into print and a way for him to have more power than he already did i remember him well he was lord of the night and he had a he was very large you know heavyset man and he kind of walked around like he was king henry viii reincarnated it was his kingdom we were just there at his pleasure um he was the man of the hour and the week and the month he was incredibly powerful particularly in new york where i worked as a journalist he was i mean maybe the most powerful man in media certainly in our in our city in manhattan for sure um and his influence his reach his control his power was incredible um i remember gwyneth paltrow was on the cover of the very first issue of talk and inside she did this very bizarre s m type of photo shoot uh really not her style and pictures were very very bizarre um gwyneth said later she had done the s m shoot as a favor to harvey who had asked her to do it and she felt it was a bit exploitive but she exploitated but she did it for him again we started to see the dynamic that he would set up with actresses where he would live out his own fantasies um through persuasion and manipulation and negotiation with them but uh harvey weinstein used to show up at all the red carpet events the oscars that i would go to walk the red carpet and give some sound bites i met him several times over the years he was always bombastic he was always opinionated he was always arrogant and then to learn that angelina jolie who also brad pitt was with um early in her career you know she came forward and said that she was sexually harassed by um harvey and then angelina said from that day on i said i will never make a movie with that man and she [Music] didn't [Music] he called me into his office and told me to sit on the couch he then sat down next to me and proceeded to tell me how things worked in hollywood he asked me if i was good i started to tell him about my training and my acting experience and he said no i need to know if you're good he said that if he was going to introduce me around town to directors and producers he needed to know if i was any good he had this sly sleazy smile on his face and the fact that he was sitting so close to me on this couch i started to get a sick feeling in my stomach the next thing i knew he had unzipped his fly and pulled out his penis my heart started pounding my mind started racing how do i deal with this how do i get out of this am i going to get out of this how is this happening he then grabbed my hand and pulled me towards him and forced my hand onto his penis and held it there i was frozen with fear trying to remain calm trying not to freak out because after all there was nobody else in the office i pulled my hand away as casually as possible he told me that this was how things worked in hollywood and that all of the actresses that had made it had made it this way he said name anyone any actress you can think of and this is how they made it he spelled it out for me he told me that first i would have sex with him and then he would take me to parties and show me who i needed to sleep with after that on monday following that friday nightmare with harvey weinstein i resigned from my job not long after that i quit acting i have told parts of this story to only a very few people over the years i felt so powerless because he is after all very powerful and very well known and very successful i didn't think anyone would believe me i was nobody i would think harvey weinstein is hideous he's always been hideous his first wife eve was his assistant was an assistant who he undoubtedly sexually cajoled and harassed in his position of power into marrying him he used to leave flowers on her desk he uh seduced her with his power and his position they married they had three children eve decided very much to stay out of the limelight she raised their three children their three daughters uh in privacy harvey continued to work the scene he continued to have affairs when i first met harvey weinstein he was still married to eve but we heard stories repeatedly again and again about various actresses he was having liaisons with that's what we thought but we knew he was cheating on his wife and it was an open secret when harvey and eve finally divorced it was a shock to exactly no one it had been years since they'd been together it'd been years since they lived together and everybody knew about his womanizing um when harvey and georgina got married it was a surprise first of all georgina had her own family money she'd gone to private schools in the uk she was very posh and she was starting a fashion label marqueza uh seemingly on her own and she didn't seem to need harvey so it was a bit of a surprise where this young stunning beautiful woman would actually marry this hideous disgusting human being but she did now we come to find out that harvey threatened uh actresses all over hollywood that if they didn't wear his wife's gowns on the red carpet he wouldn't put them in any more movies felicity hoffman actually confirmed that she was ordered to wear marquezza on red carpets during her oscar campaign other actors renee zellweger were pressured and forced to wear marquezza harvey used his position of power not only to abuse women but also to force them to do things that benefited him and his wife georgina and harvey went on to have two children together and initially georgina was going to stand by him georgina issued a statement saying that he was receiving therapy and they were going to work it out and then of course as we started to see the dozens and dozens and dozens of women coming forward including allegations of rape she very quietly changed her mind [Music] [Music] do as soon as the follow-up new york times piece came out where you had people like gwyneth paltrow openly talking about what had happened to them with uncle harvey as she secondly called him i knew his wife georgina was going to leave him there was no way that harvey's wife was going to be able to withstand uh all of these allegations including ones of rape it it you know it started out as he was a little creepy he wanted me to to watch him in the shower or give him a massage and it ended with rape sexual assault sexual predation and a systematic uh pattern of behavior in which he abused his power and abused women um there's no way that harvey weinstein can weather this particular storm no matter how good his team of public relations experts lawyers bad guys um you know attack dogs that he hires harvey weinstein has been exposed as a monster [Music] and meeting harvey was for me like everything thinking this is an opportunity and so i i i i everything in which i believed in and believing that there's a second chance like for me he was that man he took hold of me and pretty much forced me to walk with him to the bathroom where he stood me in front of the mirror and he stood behind me and i was like what are you doing and then i'm like he's like touching me robbing me and he's like just relax and i'm telling him to stop and he would raise his voice but at the same time he kept reassuring me that everything's going to be okay and he was rubbing my breast and like it placed his leg between mine from behind and was rubbing against my vagina and and he pulled my because i had a dress another time and he pulled it down exposing my breasts and oh i feel so stupid i would say to him people believe in you and it's not been fair that you've used the power the gift that you have you've turned it into such a corruption to take advantage of other people [Music] you're meeting with like a very powerful guy in hollywood that makes a lot of actresses careers happen so when he said to go to the peninsula i just thought you know that's a bar so fine um so we met at the bar there and we kind of talked for a few minutes and then he didn't really ask me he just said we're going upstairs like to my room and i didn't really know how to take that i'm like what do you i just i didn't know how to say no to someone like him at the time which i regret and as many times as i said no and resisted i just feel like he was not going to let up on the idea and it's kind of like i felt too frozen to run out of the room in this case we allege that the weinstein company knew that one of its key executives and part owner harvey weinstein was engaging in sexual misconduct and that he was using his position at the weinstein company to bring young aspiring actresses into vulnerable places where he would then prey on them well i was there with him when you know when we were shooting it in barcelona it's so hot that place and so sexy you just get crazy thoughts there he is really watching his entire career sort of collapse at this point and he's being kicked out of a lot of the esteemed guilds and industry organizations we've seen him kicked out of bafta we've seen him kicked out of the academy of motion picture arts and sciences he was just kicked out of the television academy producers guild nobody wants him honestly because it's an honor to be in any of these guilds or associated with some of the people who work so hard in the industry and you know what at this point we're just like you're not holding up the ideals of the organization so we have to say goodbye uh well over two-thirds of the board of governors uh decided that they weren't gonna put up with um all of these you know claims of sexual abuse and they decided to revoke mr weinstein's membership in that academy academy of motion picture arts and sciences board of governors met today to discuss the allegations against harvey weinstein and has voted well in excess of the required two-thirds majority to immediately expel him from the academy we do so not simply to separate ourselves from someone who does not merit the respect of his colleagues but also to send a message that the era of willful ignorance and shameful complicity in sexually predatory behavior and workplace harassment in our industry is over [Music] we are here with yet another woman who alleges that she was victimized by harvey weinstein i was first introduced to harvey weinstein at the european premier of the aviator in 2004 after a few minutes of greetings and normal conversation harvey suddenly asked me if i'd give him a massage i said no sorry i'm not a masseuse and i suggest that he contact hotel reception with his request he kept asking about massages and so i felt the meeting was going nowhere and i left he kept messaging and calling me and even showed up at the apartment where i was staying in the east village twice in one day literally physically forced himself in through the door pleading with me to come with him to paris i found him overwhelming to deal with and i didn't know how to shut it down so i finally said i'm not coming to paris with you and i hear you have a terrible reputation with women that's when he backed off he was extremely persistent and physically overpowering [Music] he then orally forced himself on me while i was on my period he even pulled my tampon out i was mortified i was in disbelief and disgusted i would not have wanted anyone to do that to me even if the person had been a romantic partner i remember harvey afterwards rolling over onto his back saying don't you feel we're so much closer to each other now too which i replied no [Music] and that was a no regardless of the circumstances and i told harvey no [Music] we need justice for these victims as soon as mr weinstein completes his therapy and returns to either new york or los angeles we urge him or his representatives to contact me to discuss our plan for justice for victims [Music] vague apologies are not enough i had kind of created a safeguard of how i could avoid those situations and i never was in a hotel room with him alone again there's a lot of shame around that experience and then you ask yourself why did i why did i work for this person after that why didn't i see it in the way that the world has seen it now when it happened i think that the secrecy around it is probably a big part of that and there are days that i feel really angry and upset and times when you know you feel that that person really is a monster and they deserve whatever is coming to them but it's also not that i've found that it's not that helpful for me in terms of my healing and understanding to feel that anger it doesn't do anything to serve me they see their only choice to be this choice that isn't a choice in fact it's about power it's about how am i that i have no power and that's because in our systems there are not nearly enough women particularly in hollywood in positions of power there aren't enough women at the top of the tree in the studios who could perhaps balance everything out there aren't enough women on set there just aren't enough women actually in hollywood whenever there's a scandal everybody talks about redemption and rehab it kind of goes in that order they beg for forgiveness and they go to rehab whether it's for sex because they got caught cheating whether it's for drugs because they got caught doing cocaine whether it's for whatever it is they ask for forgiveness and they immediately check into rehab we saw harvey weinstein do the same thing he gets called out as a rapist sexual predator and the next thing you know he's checking himself into sex rehab now i loved what emma thompson said when she sat down with emily matalis as a journalist and said you know it's not about uh sex addiction that's a different thing uh this is about uh being a sexual predator and she really very nicely drew the distinction i think because it's one thing to kind of try and borrow someone else's disease or illness in order to make your uh bad behavior seem more palatable celebrities time and time again used rehab as a way to redeem themselves in the eyes of the public it's not acceptable they need to own up and take responsibility for what they've done in the case of harvey weinstein initially it looked like he really thought he was going to get away with a quick fix go to rehab it'll blow over his wife was standing by him he hired a very powerful top lawyer who was lisa bloom who was famous for representing women and i think he thought he had it locked down if you look at his initial statement he sort of throws out vague accusations against the women who'd come forward he sort of implies ashley judd is mentally ill he denies ever doing anything that was non-consensual and i think he thinks he's got it covered and it wasn't until five days later when all the gate the floodgates opened that i think he realized this dozens and dozens and dozens of women started speaking out that actually there was no way he was going to be able to contain the situation the lengths to which harvey weinstein is go and his access his ability to go to these lengths to protect his name and to protect himself from any accusations were quite extraordinary so for instance he hired black cube ex-israeli intelligence officers to find out who might be making allegations against him and to shut them down that is an extraordinary powerful position to be in so again when people say why didn't people speak up so not only are you dealing with harvey weinstein not only are you risking your career not only are you going to be blacklisted not only might you be counter-sued for false allegations you're also going to face the mind of all sorts of the murkier world of intelligence of security that are set up and designed to protect these men and men like harvey weinstein use that veil and use that screen of protection and it makes them believe two things one that they'll never ever ever get caught and secondly if they do get caught if somebody dares to accuse them they will crush the accuser like a fly we walked out of the room and we lost and then i realized why i'm distributing this movie because they picked on the wrong guy they picked on the wrong movie they picked on the wrong thing one of the great myths about harvey weinstein people are saying well it can't be that real because some of these allegations go back a long while why are these women coming out now right you imagine this scenario okay you are a woman in a lower state of power relative to one of the most powerful men in the entertainment industry one of the most powerful men in the united states this man knows everybody the top lawyers top politicians presidents every film director every producer every actor everybody acknowledges and bows down to harvey weinstein you having been touched inappropriately in a vulnerable position with nowhere near his economic power his social power his political power what are you gonna do you're gonna think that wasn't right and more often than not you may even turn around and think was it something i did this is what's most pernicious about people like harvey weinstein because their power is so great and the women he abused were powerless relative to him until now relative to him they might think what did i lead him on was it something i did and the answer to that is an absolute and categorical no these women did not do anything to encourage harvey weinstein to engage with them against their consent and they have not only had to live with the abuse they've had to live with the feeling of powerlessness about having been abused and also feeling ashamed of it while harvey weinstein just goes on and on and on and keeps doing it and doing it and doing it and doing it this is not just the insatiability of dopamine a neurotransmitter in the brain that drives the reward system it's the insatiability of a powerful man who preys on people that are weaker than there are women that are weaker than him excellent [Music] the whole thing about weinstein was about power it wasn't about sex and because every time he expressed what he considered to be his status his power his dominance over women he would get a chemical high a dopamine high the reward system would kick in and say well done harvey and then he'd go down after it he was known some women reported him as being tearful or crying or whatever it was he may be remorseful for a short amount of time but that is in no way going to change that behavior pattern because the craving comes back and then he does it again it could be touching a woman inappropriately it could be sexually assaulting or it could be rape it could be anything on that spectrum of unwanted physical or emotional abuse of a woman by a powerful man and he thought he could get away with it and he couldn't stop the cravings because not all the money in the world not all the status in the world and all the power in the world could stop that dopamine rush telling him go on harvey do it again because this is how we get pleasure this is how we get off and when you're used to getting away with it when you've done it 10 times a hundred times a thousand times who knows how many times he did it over so many years and everybody knows about it and he knows that everybody knows about it and he knows that everybody knows about it and he's still getting away with it he's gonna keep doing it harvey weinstein was a man who groomed an entire industry the entire film industry the entire entertainment industry was groomed by harvey weinstein and quite rightly people are standing up and saying enough is enough if men get their rush from abusing women well too bad they've got to pay a price for it and it's time for them to get their rush from doing something else that's safe and legal and consensual whatever that might be [Music] there isn't really an answer for harvey in terms of him just going to rehab in arizona saying he's going for you know sexual addiction or anything else like that because he's a predator i mean he clearly set the path and tried to trap these women in his hotel room or in his house wherever it was he tried to make it happen and i don't think it's that simple of going to one week of rehab and just being like i'm sorry i have no sympathy for him because honestly this is a behavior that has gone on for decades and one week of rehab is not going to solve your problems i think we're past the point of sexual addiction here this is not a sex addict um this is a rapist this is a predator this is an abuser um [Music] a victimizer he's a he's a complete monster [Music] like a lot of malignant narcissists which i have no doubt that he is harvey believed that he was capable of everything he was a super human superpower who could do whatever he wanted to and get away with it all you have to look at is his initial statement after the women bravely came forward in the times after the new york magazine piece exposed him for being you know such a horrendous monster he still thinks he's gonna go do a quick trip to arizona sex rehab and be back at the top of his game no understanding whatsoever there is definitely you know the appearance that he is admitting to something inappropriate um or he's doing it because he thinks he could just do a public relations you know clean up that okay i'm going to go to this place i'm going to admit my problem i'm going to come out and tell everyone look i'm better now um if i was a betting man i bet on harvey thinks this is a great public relations move and i don't think it's going to work in any way shape or form [Music] harvey is done harvey's career in hollywood is over i don't know where else harvey could even have a career and now we're looking at you know prosecutors in several cities around the world who are looking into these rape allegations and are looking to bring charges against him so if he is charged with rape either he goes to trial or he does some sort of plea bargain he's looking at spending many years in prison if not the rest of his life [Music] the idea of the casting couch and the recent allegations that have come out have not been shocking to anyone in hollywood unfortunately the extent of some of the allegations have been the most surprising thing and i think people knew that it was not a very well-kept secret that actors and actresses were propositioned by directors or spoken to inappropriately however i don't believe that the pervasiveness especially of the allegations against harvey weinstein were known the casting culture has been around since the beginning of castings you know it's it's you know i know everyone says this but it's true it's you know it's in every industry so you know we call it casting here in hollywood but in another industry they just call it applying for a job so it's really you know since the beginning of time since people had power and there are other people who want to be a part of their world there are people out there who take advantage of that power take advantage of people who want something so badly the hollywood casting couch has been around for as long as they've been making movies this is a dynamic where you have a lot of very powerful men and a lot of very young beautiful women and it just has naturally evolved into a very dark and ugly predatory arrangement going back all the way to kind of the big studio heads who wielded unprecedented power in hollywood these men prayed very frequently on young ingenues star-lit actresses and in fact one hollywood mogul even had an office next to his his main office where he would quote audition starlets every day between 4 and 4 30 p.m and everybody knew what audition meant you have very famous stories of of young actresses like shirley temple who was uh had a mgm producer expose himself to her when she was just 12 years old uh stories about louis b mayer who was running the big hollywood studio at the time who was basically feeling up judy garland every time she would come in she was a young singer actress and he would put his hand on her breasts and say this is this is where you sing from this is how you sing and he just used it as an excuse to molest her um the stories that have long been a part of hollywood folklore are dark and ugly but it's only now i think in recent times that people are actually calling these what they are which is sexual predation and in some cases rape the hollywood casting couch really is about power and you have a lot of very powerful men who are taking advantage of that power we see it across all industries you see it in investment banking you see it in any industry where there are a lot of men in positions of power and women who are not in the years between something like 2006 and 2017 only four percent of hollywood directors were female and 80 percent of those female directors only ever got to make one movie the balance of power in hollywood is massively skewed in favor of men and anytime you get a group of men that are this powerful and women who are trying to break through there are always going to be those bad apples who use their position of power in a way to abuse women so we've seen other cases in hollywood and you know these men have been forgiven in some ways but i think people are starting to reconsider whether they should be forgiven you take a look at the roman polanski case he was convicted of raping a 13 year old and he had her under the influence of alcohol and drugs he was charged with sodomy and rape and you have to sit there and take a look like he is clearly guilty and he fled the country he did not want to serve any jail time but he's still been able to work in the entertainment industry and he's been nominated for oscars and you know the actors will go and fly over to europe and work with him so clearly there's some sort of forgiveness if you're okay with that and then you take a look at woody allen and again a-list stars are always willing to work with woody even though and we all know this that he went and had an affair with his step-daughter who was under 18 at the time and then it continued on until she was a legal age and now they are married and they have kids but come on it's really creepy and on top of that he was then accused of molesting another one of his wife's siblings and you know it's really complicated and it's it's gross and everything else but again actors aren't saying you know what i shouldn't be working with him but now i think people are really going to open their eyes no one was immune even joan collins who was very famous at the time and was up the lead part in cleopatra cleopatra she was the frontrunner for the role and she said the director basically said to her um if you really want this role you have to be nice to me which in the 1960s meant have sex with me she didn't and she lost the role ultimately of course to elizabeth taylor but you know no one is immune helen mirren talked about how one particular director michael winner treated her like a piece of meat you go from the most kind of uh prestigious powerful respected leading lady to the youngest ingenue reality star starlet everyone at every level seems to have experienced uh something like this one of the most famous cases is tiffy hedren and director alfred hitchcock now he was obsessed with her and she was a part of his his muses that they were called his icy blondes and i think what was interesting is that in her book last year tippy actually talked about several incidents where he was sexually harassing her he was sexually assaulting her and she was constantly fending him off uh oftentimes he would throw himself on her he would touch her inappropriately and if she didn't respond he would you know not only be mean to her actually downright cruel but he also told her one time i'm going to ruin your career if you don't sleep with me and essentially that is what he did um they were in the middle of filming marnie when he told her that and he basically didn't talk to her anymore you know they finished the film but he made sure that she never worked again and remember her whole career was really started thanks to alfred hitchcock and he started it and he ended it he had that much power um i think it's been going on since men and women were put on this earth and i don't think there's anything that's going to stop it i think that what has to happen is young people have to be educated in what they can accept or what they should accept what they shouldn't accept and uh it should be very made very clear to them alfred hitchcock told me he'd ruined my career and i stood up and as i was walking out the door i said do what you have to do and i think it was the best door slamming i've ever done this isn't unique to hollywood it's just that hollywood is more glamorous and it's more fun to talk about when it's an actress and a big producer and you know that makes a story that sort of uh activity needs to be brought out and uh and that there are women who will say no and you are absolutely wrong in even attempting this and we have a right to to act out how we feel about that kind of thing to women who are wondering about speaking out what is your message to them keep it up it's the only way it's going to stop you don't have to put up with that there's not a reason in the world not a good one the more people come forward the more um it's talked about the less victims are going to feel like they don't have anywhere to go and now they can go somewhere that they're it's it's not shameful it's not something that's going to threaten their entire lives that they could survive [Music] [Music] what was interesting about all of these harvey stories was that it kind of really fueled a social media frenzy with the hashtag metoo and celebrity and tv star alyssa milano really came forward and just started pushing the hashtag and a lot of women just started sharing their stories and saying this happened to me when i was a kid this happened to me in college this happened to me last week and it was amazing to see that not only was it happening in hollywood it was happening in sports it was happening in the tech industry it happens in politics it's not just limited to los angeles it is happening all over the place and i think women are starting to feel okay about sharing their stories there's no shame we're here to support each other and i'm glad people are paying attention i think what's helpful in this situation is social media has been a big player when it comes to sharing these stories you realize that famous women and not so famous women people from just average walks of life have experienced the same exact thing and realizing we're all the same and i think it's really kind of helped everyone sort of feel better about the situation and then now take action on how we're not going to have this happen again and that's what we really saw when it came to that me too hashtag it's life-changing it's life-changing and we create cultural content and we know that we have to get our own house and order our representation of women and people of color and lgbtq folks is you know frankly still really poor and there's a lot of room for improvement and we have our 50 50 by 2020 push which is to have 50 women 50 men across all positions across our entire industry including putting women in positions of uh decision making and through our leadership we hope that the rest of the country can continue to catch fire with this revolution of safer workspaces for everyone [Music] my greatest fear was that it would be a flash in the pan we'd move on to the next outrage coming from the white house instead i think it really does feel like something seismic is happening in the way we look at the balance of power and the way women are excluded from most of the areas of at the decision-making level in government in board rooms in business in the media and the abuses that fall from that imbalance so that's what the correction is going to be it's going to be very messy somebody said in the in the time's up group which i'm a part that we're we're uh building the airplane as we're taking it out down the runway and and that's sort of that's the mess of it and but i think it's it's it's a really really valuable shift that i feel happening what about backlash against yourself obviously you you know you you stood up you've made after you made that speech to the golden globes it's like if you put your head above the parapet people are going to take aim and it feels like that's what's happening with you now people saying weinstein she must have known she must have known yes i mean i i i think i'm taking the hit for an entire group of people who worked with harvey weinstein but the people you know what's what's difficult about this is that it precedes him these abuses and there was roger ailes who ran the fox network that there was uh bill o'reilly who they the fox paid out 35 million dollars in in silence money to women and uh in sexual harassment suits in our country the settlement of a sexual harassment suit is a legitimate tax deduction for it's a built into the way of doing business this is outrageous and it's only and it is again because of the balance of power that's that's that's off but for me taking these things you didn't know about these things until till now well the specific no here's a bit we know that people are jerks we know that there's a lot of people that are [ __ ] out there we know there's a lot of people that utilize their their position their gravitas for something other a lot of times it's riches a lot of times it's just fun to be storytellers but a lot of times it's been able to take advantage of the people who are are powerless against you that's that's without a doubt that's that's been part and parcel then you hear stories and you go like we all have joined a circus here and in that circus there is going to be all sorts of inappropriate messages of inappropriate behavior and some sort of downright sexual predatory aspects of it what can come out of all this is understanding look sex and flirting or whatever you want to call it affairs of the flesh are never going to go away but what can go hand in hand with that is the parody that where you work actually reflects the rest of the world that it's not one gender having control in proportionally when in fact it should be somewhere around 50 50. and when it is 50 50 i think there's going to be board members who are going to say we are paying out millions of dollars for what exactly and then you're going to see and then you're going to see a difference if you were on the set together and you wanted to put your arm around meryl you know each other really well as friends put your arm around meryl shoulder touch her on the knee are you thinking twice about things like that you know that works both ways of course doesn't it this is a debate that's going on now yeah i don't know yeah i don't no i wouldn't i wouldn't think twice about it and also with actors it's a very different thing it's tom's not employing me it's a different thing when there's a when there's a an imbalance in the power dynamic if somebody's somebody's boss or potentially a woman is trying to get a job it's a very very different thing when in you know in in the united states there was a newscaster who had a button under his desk that would lock the door when and in you know his young women interns would come in i mean this is these are abuses beyond imagining honestly and shouldn't be in the workplace everybody deserves a workplace that's respectful and safe that's the simplest piece of it well first of all can i say i think that the women who've come forward and talked about their experiences in relation to this individual have been very brave to do so and i commend them for doing that we have an independent body uh here in the uk that looks at these issues that will look into the issue as to whether his honour should be taken from him they will do that independently and i think we just let them get on with that job what's interesting is i hear a lot of people saying when speaking about girls empowerment finding and knowing their worth or women's empowerment as well you'll often hear people say well you're helping women find their voices and i fundamentally disagree with that because women don't need to find a voice they have a voice they need to feel empowered to use it and people need to be encouraged to listen and i think right now in the climate that we're seeing with so many campaigns i mean with me too and time's up there is no better time than to really continue to shine a light on women feeling empowered and people really helping to support them men included in that i mean it makes such a tremendous difference i think the good thing that is happening with the harvey weinstein situation is the fact that it is going to be a domino effect we are going to see women finally saying you know what i'm not going to accept this or i'm going to tell people about what happened to me so they can learn from that experience and we have seen that start to happen with kevin spacey we've seen allegations against even ben affleck we've seen allegations against um brian singer the director and we are starting to see it's kind of like a house of cards it just literally is starting to fall away and this isn't you know we've heard like five six seven stories i think there's a lot more to come he might be exceptional in terms of the years and the numbers of women he targeted but this is a culture in hollywood it extends well beyond harvey weinstein there are dozens of other harvey weinsteins in hollywood look for every story about gwyneth paltrow or charlize theron being sexually harassed there are also stories about all very very famous leading men also being harassed a lot of them haven't come forward so i can't name their names but i can talk about kevin spacey and anthony rapp anthony rapp is a is a young actor was at the time in particular on stage who worked with kevin spacey when kevin spacey according to him tried to seduce him um anthony rapp was one of the first very brave men to come forward and say it's not just women this happened to me i think there are a lot of men who are straight who are living as straight men who have been preyed upon by other men in the industry but because of perhaps embarrassment or confusion or not wanting to come out as having had a gay sexual experience with a man in power it it it has caused a certain reluctance on their part perhaps they feel they have more to lose in terms of their public image uh to uh to admit that they slept with a powerful male uh producer or director in order to get a film role but virtually all quite a few of our most famous leading men um have been harassed as well the fact that somebody that powerful his career has been completely ruined and i think that's a a real message to anybody who would behave like this and um and and and and i think that i think that social media has given everybody a voice and a platform and everyone realizes that they're not alone and women realize that they're not alone and that their voice matters and their voice can be heard and and and and that means behavior is going to change we've seen the bill cosby stories we've seen president united states tell us exactly what he does we've seen this go on and on i think we have to get to the point where and maybe this is it maybe this is the watershed moment where we believe women where they feel safe that they can talk about what they what they're experiencing so we've heard a lot of people from the industry talk about it recently we had both matt damon and george clooney talking about the situation they've both worked with him in different capacities over the years and you know matt really owes the beginning of his career to harvey weinstein and he said you know what i didn't know a lot of this was going on and now it's shocking in some ways but i have to make sure that i'm protecting the actresses around me and i don't condone this behavior or anything else like that and i don't want to be a part of it and i think for george clooney he said you know i did hear stories harvey would tell me stories about some of my female friends and he said that he had slept with them and he goes i just didn't think that they would do that i didn't believe them but you know in the long run i should have been more proactive about calling him out on that or making sure that my friends were protected and so we're seeing a-list celebrities willing to to speak out although everybody's kind of wondering what uma thurman has she recently spoken and said you know what i'm too angry right now to speak um and she worked extensively with harvey so i don't know whether she has a personal story or she knows of things that happened but she certainly is when she's ready to talk i think everyone's ready to listen so i've been waiting to feel less angry and when i'm ready i'll say what i have to say [Music] [Music] to check what we say how we say who we say it to is to put that in the spotlight is a good is a good thing you know and as uh as dylan said the times they are changing it started a few weeks before the golden globes in 2018 we started hearing that actresses stylists were pulling black there was a full page ad in one of the hollywood magazines that said trade magazines that said uh we're wearing black as a sign of solidarity uh hashtag time's up time's up is the statement being made that we will no longer tolerate sexual predation we will no longer tolerate sexual abuse your time is up as a predator so in in solidarity we had virtually every actress in hollywood wearing black black dresses as a way to show that they were united against the kind of abuses that had been going on everyone was there to make a statement about you know time's up this is over and then of course you have natalie portman on stage announcing the nominees for best director and she kind of pauses and says and here are the all-male nominees for best director it was a very powerful moment and the reason is what natalie portman was alluding to is the real problem the real problem is that there are so few women at the table in hollywood there are so few women in positions of power behind the scenes it's still very much a male dominated industry where women don't have a voice and as long as women don't have a voice there are always going to be abuses of power i think everyone is going to be talking about this moment tonight um and we are amplifying merely amplifying what a lot of people have been working for um in the country a long time for social justice and um i think because we're hollywood and we're in the spotlight we have um sometimes i feel like we have a responsibility to address issues and especially since what just in light of what happened last year and all these brave women coming forward and telling their stories about harassment and sexual abuse in the workplace if this is just the beginning of people talking about it talking on a red carpet about such things uh it's going to be a it's got to be a good move you know what's so hopeful is that the fact that women now are speaking up they're going on twitter and saying this happened to me is giving a lot of men pause i was told that leo dicaprio who's famous for his love of very young models has been extra careful as of late in social situations when he tries to pick up young girls because he's now you know over 40 and very powerful and even actors like dicaprio who are sort of in this um lothario category are changing behavior because they don't want to be accused of something later on down the line i do think behavior will change is changing the real work that has to be done is giving women more of a voice in hollywood i don't think until women have more power it's ever going to go away but i do think there's an awful lot of very nervous men in hollywood at the moment the day that the harvey weinstein story broke you could literally hear the men in hollywood picking up their phone and calling their lawyers and saying how much trouble am i in it caused a ripple effect of fear and um panic amongst hollywood moguls and agents and managers who had abused and continued to abuse their power with their leading ladies [Music] there are of course a lot of women who agreed to the terms that harvey weinstein and other men like him set out and they used it to advance their careers i think a lot of those women are silent now or they're speaking out about the fact that they were forced into the situation it's certainly true that this game this negotiation i should say of sexual favors in exchange for power has been going on and continues to go on in every industry i think in hollywood it's it's so public and it's so abused and it's so common and and now obviously so exposed i think for a lot of women uh harvey weinstein prayed manipulated and forced himself on them and in the confusion and the pain and the trauma of the aftermath uh some continued to be his girlfriend some continued to have a sexual relationship with him but i think psychologically there's a lot at play there but it could be that it's easier to believe that the man who abused you was your boyfriend you just hadn't started dating yet than it is to acknowledge the fact that you were raped uh that someone forced himself on you and i think for some of these women who seemed quite vulnerable once harvey had assaulted them they convinced themselves that there was a relationship there in a way to help their own self-esteem and self-worth in a way to uh handle the situation which would have been very traumatic in a way to justify perhaps what they felt was their own guilt and shame which wasn't they shouldn't have had but you know is normal to have um and their dirtiness about it they felt and they wanted to make themselves feel better and so they went on to have a relationship with him but it doesn't it it doesn't change the fact that they were abused they were assaulted they were preyed upon whatever happened after that doesn't negate the fact that you know what he did was wrong well you know hopefully it's an end to this whole culture of fear and the uh you know abuse of actresses and um i think you know the story i'm sure more is to come out because if if actresses lived under this fear that their career might be affected then that clearly indicates it's not just that one person there must have been other people you know there must have been a group of people to be able to kind of uh represent that kind of level of fear i hope also it means that people now are much more uh confident about speaking out and that's true and that's not just women that's men as well men who's maybe who's who's women friends have told them about an incident you know it's up to the men now to speak out as well it feels disheartening the whole time feels disheartening you know seeing it all the time on the television and everything is crazy it's quite it's kind of oppressive so um it's good because it's i think it's a catalyst for change i think anger is a great catalyst for change you know and being in reality about what's really going on is really healthy we're not always all able to do it because when you look at it sometimes it's like terrifying you know who knew this movement would take place it was very much you know necessary and a long time coming um and when we were making it i definitely felt like wow this is a real really great girl power message and that was the term that was being used when we were making it girl power my heart goes out to anyone who suffered through that kind of experience and abuse and um you know i'm thankful that that the women who suffer through that have their voices heard and um you know as a community we can come together and say that's not socially acceptable and we're not going to stand for that kind of behavior and um put a stop to it all the stuff's being revealed now and now we have to make a decision about who we are going forward and it isn't just about women it's about white supremacy it's about race we we've entered in it's a new time and we all got to stick together we all got to cross our comfort zones we all got to speak up for each other if we want to change the world if we don't want to change the world and we stay silent he's quiet let the secrets persist and everything will stay the way it goes it's going right now you know it's women's minds women's bodies and so they have control of that and so there's need to be respect there there's a line no means no what's going on in hollywood i believe is solidarity mm-hmm you know you know it's what happened when all these women shared their story and said me too what happened was connection and that's what we all live for we live for belonging to a community and the community has now said you know what we're ready to be inclusive i do think it will extend beyond award season and what i hope is that it sends a message to women who are still in silence because of trauma and who are suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder or depression or contemplating suicide because of the trauma of rape or sexual assault i want them to have permission to speak up i want them to have permission to say you know that it wasn't my fault and and and to out the perpetrator that's what i'm hoping [Music] the real problem is that there are so few women at the table in hollywood there are so few women in positions of power behind the scenes it's still very much a male-dominated industry where women don't have a voice and as long as women don't have a voice there are always going to be abuses of power what we've seen in recent times is women have found a voice things like twitter and social media give someone like rose mcgowan a massive platform in which to express herself prior to social media women didn't have a way to communicate to millions what had happened to them outrage um fear anxiety uh complaints they didn't have a voice they didn't have a platform now everybody has a chance everybody has a voice everybody has a platform it's an important moment and maybe a turning point i hope it's a tipping point uh the fact that all these women have been brave enough to come out and speak and when you're not in a powerful position and the person that you're telling on as it were is there's a there can be a cost people people can be very critical it was just disgusting and the stories that have come out are heartbreaking uh and i really commend the women who have been willing to step forward now and tell their stories but i think it's important that we not just focus on him and whatever consequences flow from uh these stories about his behavior but that we recognize this kind of behavior cannot be tolerated anywhere first of all i think that cultural change is always difficult but we continue to move forward notwithstanding forces that would like to move us backwards women have understood the truth about sexual harassment and abuse for generations but the freedom to speak out and be believed and be heard is so important and and i i believe there's a shift and i think that from below the line to above the line there's a recognition that we we want to provide access and opportunity not to be generous but because if you open the door the stories are are robust and diverse and different and um and that we all have a right to do what we love [Music] people believe in you and it's not been fair that you've used the power the gift that you have you've turned it into such a corruption to take advantage of other people i had kind of created a safeguard of how i could avoid those situations and i never was in a hotel room with him alone again you're meeting with like a very powerful guy in hollywood that makes a lot of actresses careers happen so when he said to go to the peninsula i just thought you know that's a bar so fine um so we met at the bar there and we kind of talked for a few minutes and then he didn't really ask me he just said we're going upstairs like to my room and i didn't really know how to take that i'm like what do you i just i didn't know how to say no to someone like him at the time which i regret the next thing i knew he had unzipped his fly and pulled out his penis my heart started pounding my mind started racing how do i deal with this how do i get out of this am i going to get out of this how is this happening he then grabbed my hand and pulled me towards him and forced my hand onto his penis and held it there he said name anyone any actress you can think of and this is how they made it i have told parts of this story to only a very few people over the years i felt so powerless because he is after all very powerful and very well known and very successful i didn't think anyone would believe me i was nobody why would they i would not have wanted anyone to do that to me even if the person had been a romantic partner we need justice for these victims as soon as mr weinstein completes his therapy and returns to either new york or los angeles we urge him or his representatives to contact me to discuss our plan for justice for victims vague apologies are not enough you

Channel: Real Crime

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Length: 92min 31sec (5551 seconds)

Published: Thu Oct 08 2020