Basic Openings for Black | Sicilian Dragon & King's Indian | Chess with David Pakman

so were there any openings that you that you wanted to like ask about uh from from either color well i mean right now i really need to think about what my strategy is going to be as black for opening i mean sure for white it's like you know i have some thoughts on i have some training on vienna i have some on ponziani etc but as black you know i one one idea i'm thinking of is black except again it gets to what you said where you know all of a sudden i've got nareditsky watching my stream um is that i've been thinking of um king's indian because it's feels relatively straightforward with just a couple of exceptions from white and so from a memorization standpoint it seems maybe favorable but again you know next thing i know who knows who is uh feeding the moves to whoever and then i just i have someone very prepared right right and um i mean this is where i can try and come in and give you some some recommendations um when you say king's indian um this usually refers to an opening you play against d4 yes where you you employ the setup knight f6 g6 bishop g7 castling i've seen your online games and you there's a lot of games where you just do this against anything right well that's a that's question one which is if i see e4 do i just abandon this idea altogether so when you play against e4 you can't quite play a typical king's indian okay um and i'll show you why um like we can use this game as an example just in the opening this is a game i think you played earlier today on chess.com and you you played kind of the the typical king's indian setup the problem with doing this is you can get hit with e5 right and and frequently i do yeah not everyone will punish you but some people will punish you yeah um anyone who nier ditski coaches will will punish you and you just don't want to subject yourself to um such kind of cruelty um so if you wanted to still play something that's like that kind of resembles the king's indian you can play what's called the modern or the pierce which usually involves d6 important move to include to uh to discourage e5 and then whatever white does then you continue development and you can kind of live happily without worrying about e5 in the event of e5 you just take it so the the most relevant modification would be that i'm i'm inserting d6 exactly before i moved the night out okay right now i i would still um i was actually thinking about this uh before our call in terms of like what openings i can recommend that that would offer you some more comfort and that would still be simple to learn because even when you play like um a modder in your appearance and you play d6 you're basically giving white the entire center yes and it's kind of i mean it's playable there's still like high level players that will do this but it's not the most pleasant thing to just give white the entire uh entire kind of pawn center and for you to play with less space now what about d6 e5 so d6 e5 it's um it's also playable there's a name for this it's uh it's a fill door sometimes players will play e5 first and then d6 right it still has kind of a passive reputation because you're you're blocking in this bishop right um probably what i would recommend against e4 it's it still resembles kind of appears or modern but it's a little bit more aggressive and it's to start actually with a sicilian you start with c5 because you're discouraging white from playing d4 and then your general plan um will be what's called the dragon uh the dragon variation which i don't know if you've heard of before but it's one of the most common defenses in chess now let me ask in this we we may get a conflict here levy rosman says do not play the sicilian as black until you were raided 2000 and i'm like still a few months short of that yeah um that's actually funny um i i have a vague memory of him saying that but yeah this is probably just a coaching like a difference in coaching philosophy yeah and this will also kind of go back to the the point that we shouldn't spend so much time in openings right but we should at least give you a starting point of something simple to play yeah my goal is not to get tripped up early right and not even have a reasonable shot at the middle game because of some big mistake in the first five or six moves definitely um so the reason why i would recommend the dragon and i i would imagine like if i talked to levy this would be some compromise because out of there when you say sicilian this could include over a dozen different variations um like sicilian it's a very it's a vast kind of very flexible opening um but i would make the argument that the dragon variation is the simplest to learn for beginners okay because it employs it basically includes c5 and employs the same setup that you see in a king's indian or appearance ah okay but it's so it's a little bit more comfortable because you're like whenever white plays d4 you just take it okay um it still takes some some experience and uh some knowledge but i think based on like your competition especially in pot champs it's an opening that you can get by with it's very solid and you're gonna have like a very safe king and and more kind of aggressive potential in the middle game okay and that's interesting to me yeah i i can show you like how a typical sort of sicilian variation would go or a dragon variation um many times white will try and get in the move d4 uh usually starting with knight f3 okay we should know if white plays d4 immediately and i'm just going to give you a hard rule whenever white plays d4 you should take the pawn got it so um if i plays d4 immediately you take the pawn if the queen ever lands on d4 you immediately attack with knight c6 okay um and then you you gain time chase away the queen develop a knight and then once the queen goes away i start my sort of king's indian set up on the left yes so if the queen moves over then you can you can go you're familiar with the term fiance right oh yeah very much so intimately familiar very good yeah because this is uh i guess this is what you did even even when it wasn't so good in that previous game you looked at but uh yeah you just go for the fiance setup and in this case the knight prevents white from from going to e5 but usually you include this move as well more often white will play knight f3 okay um now here i recommend starting with d6 and the idea is you want to play knight f6 but you don't want to run into this move right and that's the purpose of d6 exactly and now now you're ready to uh to employ your setup let's imagine white plays d4 yep i take right exactly boom takes and now and i have six yep and you go for g6 bishop g7 and castling got it um and very often when you play the dragon you're you're looking to develop the king side before you you really touch anything on the queen side now with knight f6 you attack the pawn usually white defends you go for g6 and almost always your next two moves will be bishop g7 and castling um and it's from this position where white has like a variety of different setups but most often you can stick with with bishop g7 castling later knight c6 and it's you get a position where your pieces are on on nice squares you have some nice pressure against the center you have two center pawns white only has one center pawn um you have this half open c file which more long term sometimes you'll you'll develop your bishop and then get a rook to to the c file um and i'd say the best way to to learn this is just by playing it um now it theoretically at least in this position where is the ideal place for the light squared bishop yeah for lightsword bishop um there's a few different setups white will will go for usually the bishop oh i'm sorry i meant for my light squared vision oh for your oh yeah um so this bishop is actually the last piece you look to develop in this in this variation because right off the bat it doesn't have a great square right um like if it ever goes to g4 y can easily play f3 so very often it will kind of hold back and and just go to d7 okay that's typically where i end up with it in these positions or sometimes i'll go for b7 if i think that there's some advantage to it that's also an idea yeah and there's cases like later on in the middle game let's say white plays like a very kind of simple set of bishop e2 bishop g7 castle and castling um there is times where you'll go for a6 and b5 and the bishop can can land it on on the queen side fiance yeah and then then you have two bishops kind of piercing through the center influencing all four center squares got it um but i i don't know if i want to dig like too deep into like specific opening theory but if you understand kind of the main setup the reason why you play d6 the reason why you start with c5 i think this will offer you perhaps a bit more comfort than what you've been doing as black yeah so to run it back this approach would generally be um i'm playing c5 followed by d6 taking on d4 at any point where that one comes forward if the queen then recaptures i immediately play knight to c6 and then as possible depending on what white does i develop the king's indian setup on the left uh eventually develop the the b8 knight to c6 and then figure out what the what makes sense for my light squared bishop exactly yeah and i i think that will offer yeah as i said that will offer us just some more uh more pleasant positions um rather than than having just a space deficit from her from early on and then in terms of a6 and b5 i would go to that if what happens yeah so then it really depends and that's like when i mentioned a6 b5 that's like one middle game idea to add to your toolbox okay that would not be i wouldn't replace some of these earlier moves with that it would just be for later on for later on yeah like if you're not sure what to do rather than playing just some random random move that you just don't have a purpose for it's always good to look for look for ideas that improve your position got it and actually in this position rather than starting with a6 usually it's more typical to play knight c6 yeah like the most natural square for the knights and then um and then the game can can branch out in many ways but like at least you're you're completing the opening you're following principles and you're not falling victim to to any tactics got it so i know like usually uh when studying openings is black there's it's it's a bit more difficult for a lot of players because white is usually the one trying to attack you um early on and then sometimes you're more on the defensive sure um now we should also address uh if white plays d4 okay because this is another move that you'll run into a lot and this is where i'd recommend that you stick with a king's indian okay um you can't really like c5 isn't as strong here because it allows white to just grab the center even more um so i guess i'd like to ask you just as kind of a quick test how would you play king's indian from this position um well i think first i would go knight to f6 good then pawn then bishop exactly yeah you play knight f6 to prevent light from playing e4 right let's say c4 um g6 yeah and you should have i just made you a contributor so you should have ability to move the pieces as well okay i'll play this so i played my bishop right uh oh maybe we got unsynced um you see bishop g7 though right bishop g yes i see i played it yeah so this is a case where i could i could grab the center and now i'm curious what would you do here um i think i would castle and then if i need to i would maybe undevelop the knight to e8 is that is that a terrible idea that's actually so this idea is actually it's been played at like very high levels um i wouldn't recommend it because it's a it's a bit ugly but passive yeah the simpler approach is just to play d6 so sticking with the same idea delay talk about earlier okay exactly um let's say knight of three i think now i cast now castling let's say i'll just keep developing oh i'm not seeing your move for whatever i don't know why we keep getting unsynced let's see the buttons below the board should be green yeah they're turning red and then i'm clicking them and then they go green again oh that's strange um okay now i see bishop to e2 yeah and now the question is like what would you play as black in this position so i i mean i think i would think about c5 or knight to d7 oh no actually i don't want to do well if i do that i'm sort of committing to eventually putting the bishop on b7 which maybe i don't want to do i think i would look at either e5 no not e5 i would probably look at c5 okay so you mentioned you mentioned a bunch of moves here i just want to identify like all the moves you mentioned c5 you mentioned 97 you mentioned e5 um it's funny like the the move i would recommend you you rejected right away which is e5 ah interesting um and this is maybe something that's different when you compare the king's indian to like the sicilian dragon in sicilian dragon you almost never play this move but here you play e5 with intention of trying to poke it like center and um at first okay there's kind of a a long tactical sequence where at first it looks like white has two attackers right black only has one defender sure so it looks like white can win a pawn however your pawn on e5 is we we can call tactically defended by the bishop and we can see how this plays out let's imagine white takes yep you take back right um now the queens are staring each other to make things simple let's say white takes your queen you take back and white takes on e5 yes so you just lost a pawn uh however there is a move here to uh to basically try and win the pawn back so i want to get the knight out of the way so that my bishop attacked attacks uh the knight on the on e5 um if i take the pawn on e4 then we trade knights there i'm sorry we don't trade knights i lose my knight but then i take a knight back and that essentially wins back the pawn exactly yeah so this is basically what enables you to to play e5 safely is that you have this tactic and uh the resulting position is actually pleasant for black because you you have a nice open position you have the rook on the open file your bishops can enter and uh there's not too much to worry about okay um so if you know through e5 that would be that that would be already like a very good start this is just a very typical king's indian idea um i can go maybe three like three moves further i can give you just a better sense of what to do in the middle game okay um very often white will castle here and then rather than taking right away you can apply more pressure to this pawn on d4 with just a simple developing move now i bring the knight out to c6 exactly okay and you're trying to entice white to take if whatever it takes you're happy to kind of get this kind of simple position everything's defended for you um and if white plays d5 um this is actually a move that most king's indian players look forward to even though playing king's indiana is black exactly okay yeah um because even though white gets more space the structure is a bit more defined and okay you're gonna move your knight to e7 and your plan going forward in the middle game is to remove this mic from f6 sometimes back to e8 back to d7 and then go for f5 and then even later f4 and this sort of structure it should look very very similar to the system you play as white where you basically have this nice pawn chain directed towards your opponent's king now this is like the absolute main line like if you played good players you'd be likely to get this position um but uh i think this would be nice like if you ever get the structure then just knowing about this this f5 idea we can imagine if white plays a move like b4 um you can even play knight h5 here and you're going you're going for the kingside attack where um once you get the pawn to f4 of you you have a lot of attacking ideas involving the pawn storm and if white takes my pawn on f5 i take back with my g d pawn and then later i push to f4 yeah so we can imagine like rookie one let's say f5 uh white takes um you actually have a pleasant choice here but uh you could take really with with either minor piece or with your pawn um and then this is where kind of tactics can can come into play yeah so like one idea i would have here would be because i have the rook on f8 i might like to at some point have some kind of discovered attack with the rook i can't easily get the pawn out of the way but i could get the bishop or knight so that might push me to take with one of the minor pieces instead of the pawn yeah i think that's very good reasoning um so a move like bishop five where you you basically develop your your only undeveloped piece um then then yeah you keep the file open and that file could very often be used as an attacking weapon yeah and this um i mean this idea is reminiscent of what you play as white uh i i'm pretty sure levy showed you like some similar concepts with the rook having the half open file now is it relevant here as a reason also not to take that pawn with my g-pawn that the g-pawn defends the knight on h5 yeah so this is where it could get tactical um because your knight's undefended and this is something like you always want to sense a danger yeah i'm pretty sure here it's okay even though white has this battery directed towards your knight um if white word should try and exploit this let's say by moving the knight from f3 and taking the pawn the nice thing for you you can take back and then this knight is hanging ah knight's also pinned to the rook and if white goes for this then you're actually attacking both rooks oh yeah yeah so that's in my favor so that could very quickly just uh go very bad for white now i probably have to be realistic that i'm not going to be seeing that far ahead in these games at my level as we like to say um yeah so like most of what you should be concerned about is just like searching for or scanning the position for undefended pieces looking for the forcing moves and uh if you do that sometimes you you will be able to find some some more advanced combinations but um yeah there shouldn't be any pressure for you to like play exactly like the the engine like recommendation every move like oh sure usually you should err on the side of caution and and just keep keep the game controlled and keep your keep your options open right that that makes perfect sense okay so can we briefly go back to the beginning on this one actually let me uh i'm gonna make a new chapter and we'll just call it king's indian and this will just be more of a test to see if you you've internalized like the move order and hopefully it sinks properly first with the knight yep then pawn okay so far i stick with my plan and bishop agree so now i play d6 very good yeah just discouraging e5 yep um let's imagine let's imagine i play e5 just this is kind of a test for you how would you react so uh i think i take great i'll say takes okay and then here um so is this the situation where we said i would just then oh no there's no pawn to win back in this case so i don't know that that makes sense do i just move back to d7 here so i want to pause for a moment and i want you to like try and visual or just see the big picture of what's going on and what just changed in the position after the pawn took there's something you you're clearly seeing the night's attacked but yeah the queens are searing each other yeah very often if you can take your opponent's queen before they take your own queen it's it's what you should do oh okay that's actually i mean that's good because sometimes in these optional queen trade situations i'm unsure really how to evaluate it yeah and the reason for it here is when you take on d1 white has to make some concession white either has to undevelop the knights or take with the king and lose casting rights right and i still have counseling rights right and then next move then you can safely move the knight okay there's actually a bonus tactic here if the king takes um you can you can play knight g4 and hit hit both pawns all right and then you're winning a pawn maybe if your opponent's really bad they'll get forked i hope my opponent's that bad that's yeah that's my strategy in fact just just hope really hard yeah uh okay okay yep that makes sense so if the queen if the d file becomes uh comes open i'm black i take the queen yeah and this is common like across any opening like when when there's a trade like this you should immediately see the option and uh and usually go for it okay but but we're in agreement that eventually i'm i'm moving the knight to d7 uh well unless except in that situation yeah right exactly um but okay more often white will play a move like knight knight f3 okay uh now i castle and let's say there should be two okay um so now knight to c6 um it was a right right idea that you want to continue development um and it's not a bad move but usually you should play e5 first okay e5 yeah to really just pressure the center got it and um if they are to take let's review this okay so this one is where i take i'll take your queen excellent yeah and then this is what we reviewed earlier and um i think here it's not necessarily about just purely memorizing this it's just about understanding the flow of the variation and that you're winning the pawn back when the knight lands on e5 right um so let's say a castle um okay so i think now i develop the knight and put pressure on d4 right and here um yeah you're putting a lot of pressure because you have two attackers but your bishop is also kind of applying extra pressure so more often than not white will play a move like d5 um okay so i think here we said i go back to e7 and let's say i play a move play a move like rookie one okay so this is usually where i start to be ambivalent about like are we now in the middle game would we say so now yeah you've castled you you've developed most of your pieces and once you get the structure yeah especially with these like the center pawns for each collar this is where you should really look to uh to expand on the king side on the king side okay so um i mean i guess i might start thinking about so i'd still be looking at my bishop and maybe d7 for the bishop or maybe thinking about h6 g5 um remember what we talked about earlier because you there's one like pawn there's one clear pawn move you want to achieve um okay so this is where i i might move this knight back in order to open up here yeah okay and yeah knight g7 is fine um you oh or h5 or h5 or e8 very often like let's say you play a move like 98 which is also completely fine yeah you'll end up playing f5 and then returning the knight back to f6 right and then you want to get an f4 and you want to continue building up your attack and your p your pieces can can get into the game um very very nicely right um i don't know if you'll ever if you'll get the chance to uh get a lesson from akaru but hikaru's been known to play the king's indian at the highest levels and he routinely will get positions like this where he'll just destroy his opponent on the king side um so it's an opening that that's used at the highest levels and like even at your level it's still like intuitive to play right um and then perhaps going forward i can recommend if if you like if you type into youtube nakamura king's indian yeah you'll find analysis of like his best kings indian games and you'll get a sense of like how how the middle game attack can unfold and so to go really back to high level again just so i'm understanding this is all if my opponent plays d4 if my opponent opponent starts with e4 then i'm going with the other routine so potentially this is like potentially uh where i'm starting with uh what what did we decide on that i'm starting with uh c5 and d6 was it sicilian dragon yeah dragon yeah so i didn't quite explain like usually when i teach this to to new students i explain why they call it the dragon um maybe we can review it just uh just real briefly and do you remember what to do here is black so i think it was here good i take great um and then now do i start sort of a king's indian setup on the list now you do yeah so you'll kind of see the overlap of ideas and the reason they call this a dragon i i think is for two reasons uh the main reason is that um this bishop on g7 can later breathe fire across the board it's a very powerful piece um this is also considered the head of the dragon so it's it's like a very powerful kind of defensive setup very difficult for white to actually crack yeah it's sort of uh i mean i see it in the same way that i see a bear when i look at five stars in the sky it's sort of a big vague dragon but i think i think i understand what you're saying yeah you have to maybe hallucinate uh a lot to see it but um yeah if you can achieve the setup i'm not sure about that alexa wanted to chime in there oh wow um but yeah if you can achieve this you're not going to lose in the opening in your alexa i've sent a link to your phone with instructions alexa stop it that will happen every so often apologies for that that's okay uh okay so then at this point then i'm trying to remember am i now looking to bring my knight out to c6 right knight c6 and um and really i gave you a starting point yeah um as you as you maybe play this these openings in more games then um based on on what you're running into that's where you you want to um kind of expand your knowledge um but yeah knight c6 very often the bishop can come to d7 keep in mind this plan your book wants to come to c8 and you always want to be looking for opportunities in the center with your knight pressuring this pawn your bishop pressuring the diagonal so um yeah so hopefully this will be a good starting point and can offer you some some interesting games and this will hopefully not really put me at a disadvantage if someone were to uh observe that i'm learning this i don't think so yeah i mean there are like weird tricky gambits but i think like as especially in preparation for a tournament like pogchamps you you want to you just want to build up kind of your um your your knowledge of the openings that you're playing right and then um and focus more on on kind of uh middle game strategy tactics and then as a tournament uh gets closer then it probably makes sense to prepare more specifically for each opponent maybe to do so a bit more secretively um and i am aware that like you do have a few different weapons in your repertoire apart from what we looked at today um from from when we we met a while ago so you might bring back some some uh some other weapons um depending who you're playing and depending what is known about uh what they're being taught on on stream right right and i should be deploying opposition research on them exactly yeah yeah um and that's something where like i'm happy to help or whatever coaches you're working with should should also be doing um there there's a website where if you know anyone's leeches username or chess.com username you can plug in their username and see basically their whole game history what openings are most likely to play what they score with each opening it's a very powerful tool it's called openingtree.com and you can uh i mean you can use it yourself but that's what i use to to really do opposition research and this is all it's not like when the patriots were filming people allegedly and stuff like that this is all totally kosher so it's all it's all public yeah um right there's nothing there's nothing against like preparing deeply for someone before a game using whatever databases engine analysis um but during a game you're going to be all on your own and that's where you really have to to just be in your your top mental form and and use kind of all the the insights and and the strategies you've been working on beautiful beautiful well it's a lot to bear in mind but i think i think my goal is to have probably three different ways i could go as white to be less predictable and then some options as black which it sounds like it's what we're developing where i can deal with the most common openings that i would that i would uh deal with and then i probably need some general strategy if white plays something wacky sure and that's actually like if if white does like weird stuff like g3 or knight f3 um or c4 like there's a lot of like first moves that we it's hard to get to all of them um and that's why king's indian is like a a nice opening choice because this is your general strategy right so even if you just remember like these simple arrows for black that will enable you to meet most openings with like just a solid approach that will just get you into a middle game where hopefully you can outplay your opponents because you're better than them yeah absolutely absolutely

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Published: Wed Jul 22 2020