Bar Z shop extension Phase 3

[Music] hey guys welcome to bar z my name is stan and today we're going to be doing phase three of the shop extension actually i should say we're doing three phase of the shop extension don't think i didn't plan it like that all right so we're doing the three-phase conversion of the shop we're doing an an entire shop system where we install one big phase converter all the power goes through the phase converter everything goes into one three phase panel no single phase panel at all and we distribute all the power in the shop uh via that three-phase panel now our phase converter is courtesy of american rotary um those guys have been great to deal with a lot of you guys know uh they are friends of the show and they you know they host summer bash for us and do all these things for us and uh they did give me this phase converter so this could be considered a paid endorsement but a lot of you guys know i don't endorse anything unless i love it and i think i love this machine it's pretty pretty damn cool but i did get all the other components i needed all the major electrical switch gear panel board breakers uh you know we got a lot of accessories from american rotary they're pretty much one stop shopping for all your uh for all the hard parts that you need so let's get into it let's go see what it takes to get three phase in the entire shop okay so after some uh field work i'm back in the shop and we're getting started again on uh doing uh the shop work uh i just threw some two by sixes up there that i had those are some pressure treated it doesn't really matter what they are i threw them in with a couple of joist hangers and you can see right there i stubbed out with uh my airlines from the attic of the other side of the shop so those are coming off the manifolds uh we'll try to look through the windowed and that center beam you get a little glare off the glass but uh that airline is stubbed out and the board is just up there just for me to hang pipe on i'm going to bring some electrical over too so it'll give me some place to suspend my piping so that's on the west side of the shop and then we did the exact same thing over here on east side right over there and same thing with the airline stubbed in so i spent some quality time in the attic uh getting some tees cut in and and bringing those over and then then i've got a beam there to uh um you know hang all my pipes my conduits and my air piping on so uh that's uh you know that was a full day just sitting there rummaging around in the attic so that's that's done and next up we're going to be pouring a concrete pad for what's under there which is my my big 30 horse american rotary phase converter so we're one step closer to getting the phase converter in and our giveaway is coming up here pretty quick we'll probably do it at the end of this video but we still got to pull the old uh phase converter out get the new one in and do some panel work and we'll take a walk out to the other side of the shop in case you guys didn't know to access that attic there you see it's all closed up but there in the back you'll see what i see an opening right back there up in my loft there's a there's an opening on the on the right and i think you can probably get a peek of the opening on the left yep right there behind that honeywell mod motor so that's how you climb into these attics and they are supporting you can crawl around up there and don't worry about falling through everything's real secure it's all 18 gauge sheet metal with ribs and everything all all bolted together so there's no no worry of falling in there there's another way in you can actually pop a light fixture out and climb in and work through a hole if you're gonna work in a specific area but it's if you just got something quick to do it's easy to just go in and through the attic hole we are going to be pulling out these two panels here those two little mickey mouse panels are coming out these welders need to get out of the way for me to do my work get the welding outlets out of there and all this just clear this area for us to work and see we're going to be going up a lot of this stuff is going to be punching through and going up in the attic and we'll probably pull that light fixture out there just to do our work and then put it back when we're done and then the uh the phase converter sits on the back side of the wall behind the welders there let's go out and take a look at that right there those solar panels are stacked up and a lot to move the panels do a little bit of a little bit of prep a little dig in get some rocks moved and pour a little pad there and it'll be just opposite of my air compressor so that's that's about the size of it it's it's a small pad we got to put in for the phase converter but just getting that thing out of the shop and in its final resting location is a milestone well we did manage to uh get our little pad port i told you it wasn't very big so just just a big enough spot for the phase converter to sit and we'll punch a hole in that wall that panel's going right on the other side of that wall but we did that and while we're at it i got a new step here's my old step this piece of open bar grading on some four by fours but now i got a a proper step pretty cool huh and we've been doing out digging in the dirt so my shop's a mess all kinds of dirt got tracked in here and now we're ready to oh now like the phase converter is all the way behind all this crap so i got to move all this stuff and uh start thinking about getting that phase converter out that concrete's been dry for uh 48 hours now so i think we can go ahead and load it up okay so we got our pad done and uh we hauled the phase converter out here today and dropped it on the pad so it's uh just sitting there i don't know i'm gonna bolt it down or put it up on i might make some rubber feet for it put up on some rubber feet but i thought this was kind of interesting and a lot of you guys don't know this um when you run into a uh where you have to nipple through a wall and the walls got thickness of any type your connector ends up right in the wall so you see what we got there this is a super low profile this is inch and a half uh emt and we're coming into a it's an oz jedney uh connector the only ones that make the steel connectors but if you order the oz jedney connectors are super low profile and they'll they'll slide right in that hole real nice you don't have to fight getting a connector through the wall because it sits flush and there's the name right there the name brand is oz jedney and those are specified on a lot of industrial jobs you're only going to find that stuff at uh you know the pro-grade uh electrical supply outlets so all we do here this it's a pretty snug fit but we poop it up with sikaflex sika 1a the construction sealant so it's a single component urethane so run a bead around the fitting send it home squish it in and that way the wall sealed the wall can't leak and you're not going to get any rain down in the in the conduit either because you're using the proper type compression connector not a set screw type you couldn't get a set screw connector through that wall if you wanted to because obviously the screw is getting away so that's how you uh nipple through a wall when you've got zero clearance you put this in ahead of time and send it home and i just got a couple tech screws in it and i got the nipple in the back of the of the disconnect and i'm going to try to get the camera in maybe where you can see it [Music] turn it sideways i don't know you can kind of see it back there anyways let's see what it looks like from the inside i thought i'd show you before i pooped it up all it's going to be is a blob of sealer when i'm done just to keep the wall from leaking any water that happens to run down the wall but that's what you're going to see from inside so we we cut a reasonably tight hole but you can just barely catch that connector right there you can't see much of it and a little caulking in here to make it pretty and it's done but this is the this is already the right length this is the location of my new panel right here right in that space between the the pipe and that corner panel fits in there just fine all right all that shit's coming out but i wanted to get that disconnect installed today okay so we got a little farther with this today um i made some vibe mounts those are uh uhmw blocks uh drilled and tapped with a piece of all thread and i just used uh some nuts and washers as jacking bolts so it's got some vibration isolation there and we've got our last you saw we were working on the disconnect we now have the disconnect end the sun's probably blowing you guys out um two wires on top my native colors are black and blue so uh the two phases coming in uh from the house from the breaker down to the house are coming on the top of this disconnect it's a three pole disconnect but i'm only using uh one and three and then i've got black and blue coming out the bottom and those head out to the phase converter just go out through this piece of flux here now to the phase converter then um black and blue going on the left over here and then red is your generated phase now i flipped them american rotor uses blue as a generated phase but my whole shop is wired black and blue inside and uh i'm gonna make it so that anytime i open a box anywhere in the shop and i see a red wire i know it's a generated phase so without rewiring what i've done in the shop already i just simply flipped the wires or flipped the colors around and flipped the wires left the wires in place that blue wire there used to be red and that red wire there used to be blue and trust me when i tell you the electrons don't know the difference so phase converter is wired so we've got uh our nate our two native legs coming in and our generated leg going out and those come up into uh back up into the disc con and here we got black blue red and they're just coiled up here until i get my panel landed inside and i can just shove them through that nipple through the wall you will notice there's grounding hubs in all our concentric knockouts here and here and it's kind of a funny story and i use the word concentric loosely that's actually eggcentric squared was the inventor of eccentric knockouts the code book back in i think the late 70s said if you go through concentric knockouts you put a ground bushing in so the very next year square d these fellows are right here square d came out with egg centric which was a technicality because i guess a lot of electricians complained about having to put in ground bushings so uh they came out with eccentric knockouts and uh they got away with it for one year and then they put it and they rewrote the code and says eccentric or concentric knockouts get a ground bushing and now we're back to putting ground bushings in so uh nice try square d no cigar so we got our crown bushings in uh we got ground lug over there on the side and uh i know you probably can't see that it's really bright out here today um but this is these are both considered damp locations so all connections are made with no collux you just strip your wire back as normal take a little wire brush and put a dab of that on and just brush this stuff into the into the copper and install as usual and torque your lugs so that'll keep your lugs from getting corroded uh in a in a damp environment it's not much damp out here today but we it believe it or not it does rain here every once in a while all right so that's our that's our progress for now okay into the day shot here now you may notice this has been added this is a little antenna and uh there's a there's a magic black box inside and we've got a uh i forgot chris at american rotary gave me this wireless for my my small converter oh i don't know a couple years ago anyways i thought i'd uh install it on the big one so it's just been sitting around so we're gonna turn on disconnect here and we should be ready to start and uh that's quieter than my pool pump shut this thing down that noise you hear in the background that's my pool pump anyways uh this i just glued a magnet to the back of it so i can stick it on whatever machine i want and i have the put it in the shop next to the door so i can start and stop the phase converter from over by my light switches when i leave the shop so i could just uh poke that dude there kind of convenient and now we can check the range on it pretty easily i'm going to turn off but if you watch the lighting in the shop when i hit when i key the button you can see the lights just they give a little flicker when that thing starts up so let's let's check the range we're going to go all the way in here by the monarch i am as far away as i can get from that uh that phase converter right now and hopefully you can see the lights in the shop there let's start it up yeah i heard it i heard it start and i saw the lights flicker so uh she's running pretty cool so the range is good on this thing good enough for what i need it for you'll go through what it'll go through this wall this wall and that wall over there so we'll go through three walls and she's running okay i just wanted to hear it run and get this little remote thing uh fired up okay i get asked this question an awful lot uh how much power does a phase converter actually take in standby when we don't have any secondary load so right now we've got these three wires these are coming out of the phase converter they're just coiled up here they're not going anywhere let's see we're we're capped on the end of all the wires there's it's it's going absolutely nowhere so we're going to do two things we're going to measure first of all we're going to measure locked rotor which is what it takes to start the phase converter and it these numbers may surprise you i've got my meter set to inrush which is going to measure the inrush current uh what it takes to start a 30 horsepower motor and it's going to record this number for us when we hit the start button and we're just going to hit start right here and there it is it takes 270 amps to start that motor and that's just for milliseconds now we're going to turn off and rush and we're going gonna read actual running amps uh this thing's up and running so it's taken 18.8 and 18.8 to uh just keep this phase converter in standby that's the amount of power it takes with no secondary load as a secondary load increases so hold a primary load but that's gonna uh uh that gives you an idea how much amperage it takes to get one of these started and why it's probably more economical after they're up and running to leave them running not sit there and start and stop and start and stop because that locked rotor is going to get you every time it's going to spike the meter spike the line and draw more power so uh i thought you guys might be interested to see how much power it really takes to uh spool up a 30 horse okay so we got the old uh panel out of there that the little pipsqueak panel actually was two of them side by side and we got our big three-phase panel in and we haven't put any breakers in yet all we've done is feed it and we use uh what we had to use was polaris connectors we used a couple polaris connectors actually i'll flash a picture up on the screen of those uh these are better than the split bolts and you can rely on those connections anyways the feed comes from underground right here uh goes into the polaris connectors then goes out to the disconnect through this nipple without the disconnect through the phase converter and then feeds back so it's two out three back and then we get our three phases coming in and a neutral so um line one and three are my natives line two is my generated so anytime i see a red wire it's not gonna uh it's not gonna give me 120 volts so from phase to ground here i get 120 from phase to ground here i get 120 but from there to ground i get some crazy two something so and it can shift too so just don't ever want to use rely on that for uh 120 volt i've still got all my pipes disconnected going out that we're going out to the shop and as you can see here all my connections let's see there's neutrals there's blues and blacks and that's all i used on that side of the shop unfortunately i did put a red in i didn't remember that i did but i got a couple blues and blacks but there is one red and i went through and i labeled all these what is this this is the south outlets in the shop so i'm going to go ahead and pull this wire out i'm going to pull in a probably a black so i've got let's see what's this one that's north outlets so i'm probably going to pull out the uh the south outlets uh pull out the red put in a black that way i there's never any chance of anything uh getting switched around but i know the rest of the shop is uh for the most part uh black and blue all right but the red is gonna be reserved just for the generated leg throughout the shop and we're gonna make a warning label put it in here warning people not to connect to the red line i'm not always gonna be around so if somebody else gets in here after me they've got some warnings there so they know not to connect to that red line all right but that's the panel installed so so far everything's going in clean i just got to tidy up this conduit i'm going to have to extend them because they're not going to you know reach i'll probably have to probably pull a new wire anyways because they're probably going to be long enough who knows this one just uh kind of goes up there up against the ceiling and i got to cut the pipe down and some of the wires might be lying we'll see what's uh what we gotta do okay well we got everything buttoned up and you guys probably noticed that i even touched up the wall and painted the pipes so i the new pipe i put in i just put in a couple some couplings there brought them down and spray painted them white so maybe the anal got to me a little bit but uh we've only got one red wire in the whole panel but that's going to a three pole breaker so it goes black red blue black red blue black red blue and we've got a bunch of empty spaces see that's the center leg all the way down and we are completely ready to fire up for the very first time shop has been dark um almost all day it's about two o'clock in the afternoon so it's taking me about six hours to uh change this out redo the piping and get the new panel hung so let's go heat up the shop you see we've got all our coiled wire that was here we fed that inside and refed the panel and this is the main disconnect for the whole panel if there's a fire if there's anything going on in the shop i can just come out here flip the switch and shop goes completely dead so we don't need to run the phase converter yet but we can what can we do let's start with some lights let's just get some shop lights going and these are all the leds so they don't pull hardly anything but uh all right so we got we got lights back that's awesome all right let's go turn something else on i was trying to use some air i use what's left of the air in my tank so uh i could use a compressor right now so that's a single phaser that's a 30 amp on a number 10 wire all right i got an air compressor wow it's like the shop's getting back to normal now this is what i did with this this is a 20 amp three pole but the black and blue legs are all the vfds in the shop and this red wire that i ran goes out and just uh goes into the box right next to each vfd so i've got three phase available and all i got to do is connect the connect the wire and uh all my single phase outlets i can scab onto the side of them like this one here this is just a 240 volt single phase right here but there's a red wire just coiled up inside that goes to that breaker so i nipple out of here put a three phaser in right next to it and i'll have single phase and three phase on the same uh on the same circuit so we should have a lathe which we do and we should have a drill press which we do and we should have a milling machine which we do all right so all the single phasers are back up we're burning lights um all that's left is maybe some receptacles oh my hot water heater okay here's my hot water heater and let's see this is my north and south outlets everything else can stay off that's the one i want to hook up that's the monarch right there so this all i'm doing right now is refeeding all the old circuits there's nothing new going in yet for the shop edition that's why we've got all this space over here we're going to go up punch through the lid head through the attic and get off to that side of the shop okay and i got hot water all righty what else do we do oh outlets well let's see right the phone's charging that plug's working uh my net gear is coming back up there so that outlet's working uh let's see if the north outlets are working we got light okay so our our outlets are back up and we are we are made whole again our shops back to normal uh aside from the addition so now that we have the three-phase converter the big one in uh now we can pull the old one out okay not so fast there stan you know i i had everything labeled and everything was neatly done i got all my wires labeled there and i went to go i swept all this out down here got it all cleaned out went to go roll the welders back and i said oh man i didn't put any welder outlets in i didn't put them back so i had to stop and put those two welder outlets back now i got a i got the tig on a 60 and a mig on a 40 which uh they're both happy with that and i did i found a surge protector that got shipped to me from american rotary a long time ago um i was talking to chris and i said hey i had a lightning strike some most of you guys know this is an all-metal building so i had a lightning strike and out of my three vfds in the shop it took out two of them so that cost me 700 bucks right there just for a couple of efds and uh this surge protector light is green trap is clean we're protected uh if we have a lightning strike i guess this thing i don't know explodes or something but it'll hopefully it'll save the electronics in the shop well guys we got the old one out of the attic sitting right here next to me it's actually powered up so one of you is going to win this phase converter i'm gonna go it's starting to get dark out i'm gonna go in the house i'm gonna print out the five emails that we got for an entry for this and uh we're gonna pick a winner but we're gonna do it inside so let me go print those out uh and i'll meet you inside the shop and we'll pick a winner and get this phase converter off to uh someone it's dusty it's lightly used i kept it in my attic so it never really got splashed with coolant or stuff spilled on it or paint dripped on it or anything like that it's pretty clean it's not a bad little converter and it's going to be plenty for everyone that entered you know these these all the five of these entries they were all legitimate entries they all had uh a definite machine that they could uh use them on or multiple machines and they uh um you know a lot of these guys are running static phase converters and they want all their horsepower this is the way to do it all right but i got uh i got the big dog sitting there running and now i got the little one coming around oh no i got i got two phase converters going all right let's go pick a winner okay so we've got uh um five entries to the uh for the phase converter i have uh chris giangrico i have eric sandberg i have a fellow youtuber almost machining phil over at almost machining i have a dan hendrickson and i have a rick bernard now i've i'm gonna shuffle all these up i got the first page of all five emails your odds are pretty good you got a 20 chance here um this is just the first page of all the emails all the emails gave me gave me the story uh all the emails included pictures of their intended uh machines and everything and i'm just gonna kind of shuffle them up with them facing away from me so i can't see who the people are here these are not good like a deck of cards these don't slide good i should have printed them out on wax paper all right that's probably enough all right we're going to fan them out again again away from me we're going to just see three or five corners sticking up there okay there's all five emails and now we're gonna pick a winner out of these five i'm just gonna randomly pick one because i can't read any of the names i don't know who's who so let's just uh pick a random one here and there's four left there and who we got uh dan hendrickson uh this is i'll just read you's email it says dear stan thank you for providing this great opportunity for an rpc until recently i've been an armchair machinist living vicariously through youtube but not long ago i uh this 13 by 40 lathe included a picture came to my workshop it was in running condition but needed attention and i couldn't leave well enough alone i planned to power it with a vfd however very recently the mill had has been betrothed to me i don't have it yet but it's been promised powering both machines makes the idea of an rpc much more appealing as of now i'm still just a machine cleaner but making hobby chips is not too far off and should that rpc have my name on it uh oh you can pick it up at the bash i guess he's coming to the bashes here if you've already registered great so i got a will call i don't even have to ship it that's great i was looking forward to building that crate uh the shop extension is looking great best regards dan hendrickson in arizona okay dan uh congratulations you won the adx phase converter if you want to pick it up during the bash fine if not uh shoot me an email i'll put it in a crate and get it off to you but uh thanks for the email thanks to everyone else that entered you know you had a pretty good chance you know 20 chance is a pretty darn good chance of winning that thing so uh dan phil rick and chris i'm sorry you didn't win but thanks for entering thanks for the nice emails i read them all okay so uh dan shoot me an email let me know what you want to do and uh thanks for watching the shop extension phase three three phase all right thanks for watching we'll see you on the next one

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Length: 32min 3sec (1923 seconds)

Published: Tue May 04 2021