ANTIQUE Imari CHARGER Plate dish Japanese Impressed stamp marked Porcelain c1910

hello we're in you know today we're doing some more of these antiques on our website now this one is a japanese plate and uh i'll give you some tips on what to look forward with these plates now if you compare the sailability of a plate with ours collector's always going to want to going to want to buy a of ours but there is increasing markets for for plates in the absence of a sufficient supply of good vases there is a tendency to hang these plates on the wall and there is a profusion of plates with these wire hangers which are necessary unfortunately you don't want to use a self-adhesive hanger on these um they need to be on something durable so um the reason the plates are not so popular with ours is because ours are something that can be viewed from side very easily it's hard to display a plate you can have the wooden stands you can have the wire racks but there's a certain domestic domestic domestic wear aspect of plates or charges so there's still good value to buy you get a big piece of pottery which is beautiful to look at i think that um the aversion to plates is diminishing very fast so very very hard to take these plates they're making plates like this now they've been making plates on this for 200 years the same colorways the same techniques the same sort of firing so you have to be careful in basic terms the finer the plate the more likely it is to be older but that is a generality i mean they are making very fine modern ones um so that is just a comment the larger the plate often means they're older often there there are a lot of omari plates which are dinner plate size like just domestic plates and they're quite crude and numerous and and by nature of it they tend to be later so when you're buying these plates for gold now the gold has to be very well applied you're not looking for splashes of gold and slatherings of gold the gold was used carefully because it was expensive it was applied in great care as outlines or as infill and you'll see on this plate there is infill and outlines in gold and it's carefully applied and that would be real gold um there's something such as something called white amari which is blue and white this is normal omari regular omari with with the reds and greens so listen to the sound it needs to chime like a bell it doesn't do that it's got a crack as a matter of fact i bought the plate had a wire rack on it they often do you don't really know until you get it off if it's got any damage it's very hard to screw them around and see if they're okay because they're very tightly put on usually so take take it off great hair you can flake them chip them as these come off but if we're selling a plate we want to be able to say it's okay we don't want to say oh it could be okay we're not we're not going to put the back on we will put it with the plate if they own the next phone i'll have to put it back on they can take the chance themselves but i would be careful obviously i would not recommend it i would not recommend hanging on these plates on a piece of string which can decay they do they do cages so i would be very careful about using that um now we've talked about the design we've talked about the glazing the the patterns the colors the ring now the back is very difficult um there are comparisons with japanese and chinese ceramics and you have to use all your senses to work out whether it's old or not i would say this plate is going to be between 1819 1910 they would call that meiji period which means in english basically is victorian and it would have been painted for a tourist or to be shipped over to england um export way they call it and it's good export wear that's bigger than a dinner plate it is a charger and um we've been in a shop in london with a lot of money uh order it could have been bought in japan but i think more lights have been shipped to england and sold in the store right this rim that needs inspection sometimes they're very very crusty which is okay they used to put them on the kill in the kiln and the wet clay would stick to bits and pieces but be aware they can fake that and they will apply bits sometimes to make it look like it's um of that nature or even the modern one sometimes they apply dirt in the glaze to make it look old if there's a wash of brown glaze and it doesn't come off it's in the glaze it's been put in so there's some giveaways this has a seal and pressed steel i don't know what it says you obviously don't want it made in japan so there are some basic things to look for this is a shipping label you see this on japanese furniture you see it on japanese pictures all sorts of things that's why i think it's from come through through a d letter to a store it's been made on a wheel not on a pot and you can see on the back finger marks concentric rings that's not something you can easily fake in some of ours as you see it on the insides now but this is not fake this is maybe been made on a wheel there's some little flecks showing perfections in the glaze which are part of the characteristics of a plate like this some of the very best ones have seals some of the very best ones don't have seals unfortunately that's the way the mouth the market is and that's the the basis of this this type of pottery you have a blue room they put in there another one here will be put on a wheel and spun we would have just let the wheel do the work and painted it on as it's fun these are hand painted the whole thing is hand painted now you do see later transition to transfer and sometimes modern ones not always but sometimes modern ones are 100 transfer with perhaps the gold painted out but sometimes you'll even see sections in transfer where they'll put the detail on and transfer then fill in the detail and color and do some of the big shapes in freehand but i think this plate here is no transfer at all and that's that's really quite important if you study the painting you don't want all the leaves to have the same veins on they need to be different if they have elements which are the same then they've used transfer and you can take the value down so i hope i've given you some tips there's really no substitute from handling them um you have to pick them up and feel them particularly with chinese pottery there's something called lemon peeled feel where you want it to be lumpy like a lemon skin and it's too smooth it's not it's not quite right so please take the chance to go to the sale rooms and the shops look at these items handle them pick them up tap them inspect them great much time as you can you can give them and when you've seen a lot of them you start to build up a feel for what you're looking for i mean even things like the shine you've got to look at the shine you can see i can see individual petals put on you can see where the paint is globalized and set um you can sort of piece together how hard it was to make how much time i spent on it whether it be a plate more of ours so anyway i hope that's been interesting thanks very much this is in england for collection only

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Published: Wed Mar 09 2022