André 3000, LeBron James, Sexyy Red, Jerry Lorenzo on Nerves, Haters & Out of Body Experiences

one thing about sports we were talking about sports earlier like I'm going to dominate my matchup the guy that's match up with me I'm here to dominate you like bro that that's not necessarily nervous a little anxious to do that yeah yeah that comes that comes after after the nerves kind of go away after you break a sweat proba the same way for y'all like when that be droing y'all finally get and y'all see the crowd say like I'm about to dominate this mother yeah you got to get in you said that and stacks grabbed the he like yeah I was just going to say that cuz me and my friend we compare rapping to basketball like we be like like this person was new in the game and they was the hottest and they was at all like we always compas so you got that nerves Ming then like right kind of before you know the uh curtains open and you see the crowd lights come on Boom you like yeah now it's time to dominate oh God I be like I just like I'd be in the bag they like it's okay you got this you got this IID be sipping water like somebody pass me they like calm down calm down and I just be standing there quiet like then soon as stage up I come out there like yeah y'all a going to know I'm nervous back I always say never hate on nobody cuz you don't know where they going to end up the worst thing can happen is you allow something that you have no control over affect your inner piece I know what I'm capable of so like it's just going to take them to notice I'm coming around talking about I want to be a professional bike rider they're like you on that white boy I can say whatever they can't cancel me they can't pronounce my name when it appears as if I'm in my bag I know that it's [Music] God here we go season 7 but as I say time flies when you're having fun and time is what fast I always say this we're lucky to have these jobs where we get to sit with Incredible people that in all cases were fans up but we also learn a lot while we're here right here's the more great conversations Great Moments and of course great style always great style here's the season 7 Cheers Cheers like like they if they addressing you they call me sexy you going to hear all them say sexy sexy okay okay all right so that's that's cool we say sexy yeah that's cool say sexy okay what if I say red cuz you said yeah I just thought she walked up you said red I said what's up red I don't be like mad but like I go by SE okay I a sexy okay gave you your name um this dude we was trying to figure out a name for me it was red but we like we got to put something in front of it and then it's like oh when you was when you was becoming a rapper was like oh yeah to upload my first little YouTube rap video we was like what name you going to put I'm like I don't know and we was thinking the stuff and he said sexy red I'm like I like this sexy red how long ago was that it was like six years ago did you have a rap name before that mm what was your I had a regular name it was TR red that was my street nameit from the street see you they call you Trill yeah like your Facebook name TR R godamn yeah they was call me my Facebook name what what was your first rap name uh black wolf for real black wolf how old are and big boy was black dog black dog black wolf uh 16 and you guys had a name before Outcast yeah we was uh two shades deep two shades deep like we were big you know Tribe Called Quest fans like so we was kind of like the three-word names were in at the time you know what I mean so that's like y'all was in syn yeah yeah we that was you know the way at time how did y'all change it the name of the group and y'all like uh cuz then somebody in our high school man they stole our name there a singing group they going to call them they shelf like fet d like man you no for real they they called itel forets Deep and I was like they don't stole our name and we was kind of like Outcast and in the high school could we dress different period And so um yeah we was like we just going to be outcast so so I do got to ask we were asking what to call sexy we figured out it's sexy you yourself it's three stacks it depends on who you're talking to okay what what would you my homies they call me like Stacks uh three three thou Dre big call me Dre still uh yeah Partners in the hood are call me three or Stacks yeah which one you prefer you answer it don't it don't matter you some tight nicknames he got yeah Stacks Stacks what's your nickname him the one and only serious stra like that n what's your name him I'm him what what's your nick name right okay I'm taking it that's for sure and now we got three stacks on the flu yeah yeah we got yeah that's I went to the show in I went to one of his shows in New York incredible too yeah that's crazy cuz I I didn't know you was at the show until after the show yeah yeah it was a Vibe well I also want to get some backstory you were in New York for like two days if I remember correctly and on the group text you're like I have to go to this show no I have to go cuz it's a small it was a small venue so you know that don't feel up quick the Blue Note the Blue Note yeah those were some of our first shows so we like stepped in the belly of the Beast like our very first shows like we in kind of like a well-known jazz club you know and it was like whoa we in here very famous jazz club very famous like all the tables push coach to each other like ain't like ain't much wiggle room in there once you sit down since down Ain no getting up tight little spot did you what what did you expect go did you have an expectation well I mean I listened to the album a few times okay you know um so I just went man just like on some Vibe I want to just feel the vibration and he a funny too I ain't know how funny he is so like during his sets after he get done with his setting he just popping off talking like hey I ain't about being here rapping so if that's what y'all looking for y'all go get a about of here or you know I'm saying I want y'all to make noise in here I need y'all to ride with me like he be on some funny I I ain't know that like I just I be trying to defuse it cuz like I don't want people to think you know I love jazz music you know but I don't want people to be thinking that I'm trying to be a jazz musician yeah yeah or anything like that so I don't take myself that serious as Jazz musicians now like jazz is a a studied music so I kind of like uh just try to humanize you know so even with some of the titles on the album I was like really trying to poke fun of it or just you know have fun but jazz is also very inviting style of music too for sure you like it but it's so elitist though too though you know in ways because you know a lot of jazz cats went to school man like they studied man so you know I don't want people to to think that I'm trying to be a jazz musician you know I kind of look at myself as just like a a Sonic display like I don't know what notes I'm planing to be completely honest so I ain't trying to pretend like you know I know what I'm doing in a way I actually don't know what I'm doing and that's part of the art so yeah it's something you want to do so it don't matter yeah I and I get real enjoyment out of it and people do as well it's really the freest ever cuz I ain't no freestyle rapper like I don't sit around I never have been like if you put a beat on and I'm sitting around making up raps like I'm a writer so this is the most free I've ever been like so I'm like yeah I'm loving it I'm just gonna follow is it safe to say if if Braun went to your show in New York and then he goes to a show in Chicago a week later he's going to hear something different he definitely will hear something even if you go we were doing two nights nights uh at the show Braun came to and it was like we'll do a 75 minute set take an hour break then they'll bring in a new crowd and we'll do a whole another set those two shows in the night going to be different so it's like MH we really don't know where we going to go and it's kind of like you have to fill it out and it's it's really a exploratory thing man we just exploring man yeah but you said sexy you don't you wrer too like you right you don't you don't go in the studio and just listen to a beat and start saying I have did that and them was like the ones that everybody liked like it was crazy cuz I'm like the freestyles be the ones that like go viral and stuff but you rather right I rather right though like I want come in already and just go record I don't want to be in there trying to think when you show up to the studio you got your bro oh sometimes all I come and sit in there and I write it and then I go in the boo cuz my team be like go in there and just record I be like no I'm going to write it down then I'm record it yeah that's how I and then go intention and for you Jerry as a designer what he said I was thinking about you were you at all intimidated like oh people study and live their whole life doing this and I'm just going to take it on and do it yeah I think a th% you you feel as if you're not qualified right and as you continue to follow what starts off is like having confidence and what's missing in the market and it slowly turns into a conviction um your fears of what other people how they see what you're putting in the world kind of go to the side and you're more driven by this thing that you once I guess we inspired to do into now something you believe in and that doesn't require a title does it frustrate you when people say that to you like oh you're a designer you're a fashion you're a merchant you're a whatever they say you are I I hate when anyone puts a a label on me and it it becomes their prison of how they how they see me you know it's like the whole shut up and dribble right it's like oh this is just a part of me this is just a another element to all that you know God has designed me to do so yeah and do you feel the same way about like you know we talk about like Street Wear like is fear of God a street wear brand is it just a fashion brand how How would would you characterize what your brand is um I think it's luxury even if it is Essentials I think it's luxury you know I think what what I'm trying to do is to free people up to be the best version of themselves and when you're the best version of who you are that's the ultimate feeling of luxury whether it's a hoodie or a a leather fit had to tell you know what I mean when you come up you come up emulating the one before you right so I'm sure it transl for you as well like in basketball right emulating and and for you you know getting on to the game for you as a designer and then at some point it clicks over where it's like it's more you than the person you do you remember what that point was or how that happens how you get to that point I think I think the you know looking up to people when you're when you're growing up and trying to figure out what you want to do it gives you kind of like um gives you hope you know that you know you you watching these people on television or you read them in in in newspapers or magazines or at the local library whatever the case may be you you need a sense of hope you know we grow up in the inner city we don't have much it's not much inspiration yeah one thing we do know is we don't want to end up maybe like our homeboy or a home girl or something that happened last week or whatever the case may be when we just seen him last week now we're not seeing them again so you know H having that aspiration that's outside the city I'm aspired to want to be like Michael Jordan he's in Chicago you know I'm in Aran Ohio whatever the case may be so you know having that that aspiration to want to be something greater than what's going on in my community um that's that's when it starts to flow you know you start to be like okay he black I'm black he from wion North Carolina Seems like a very rural place that ain't got much going on there I'm from akan Ohio ain't much going on here so there is possibility of getting out of this hope that's how like if they can do it I know I can yeah there's hope who was that for you sexy yeah it was a lot of people cuz I seen like a lot of girls that like was coming up get in the rap game and stuff and then I'm I'm like oh so they like this what I know they like what I got to say then I'm like why they ain't with me then like I ain't know what it'll take for them to like notice me but once they did notice me it was up I knew it I knew it what you think did it that people started know is it a certain song is it certain demand I feel like it was just my time cuz like my baby daddy had got locked up and then I was like more focused I was like dang now I'm like now I could focus and who helped you develop your as Dre said like develop his pen writing like sounds you it's a produc it could be a producer I think probably you was probably in the dungeon he you also had a partner because a little bit like who helped you develop that Sal nobody me you did it all yourself going to do it who was listening to though like cuz I heard you one time say I'm I'm the female Gucci man yeah I was list some everybody man like I'm weird like you probably you you probably wouldn't even think I sit and just like turn us Andre like hey like I be I'll be on I be on work man so like you never know what I'm going to turn on yeah like i' be in the court we' be smoking and I just go somewhere else I will say uh to any artist though too like don't just listen to the genre that you in no I don't because um like what expounds or makes a genre better is things coming outside of it getting into it you know and you interject that into like if you listen to classical music and you say oh man I love that classical music but people ain't really listening to that but if I put that on some drums it takes it a certain kind of way you know what I mean so I think when you say I listen to everything like that's one thing about Outcast like we was just me and big listen to everything like it was and and to that point at a certain point we felt like we can do everything because we listen to everything so that's how I feel yeah I think music is just you don't have to do one thing you know if you don't want to stuff for sure oh for sure for sure yeah like you can go be in the movie you can start a fashion line you can be a chef for real like you can do whatever you want to once you like in the game what do you want to do with it I'm multi I want to do everything like like when I was coming up I used to make my own clothes I got a lip gloss brand I used to sell lip gloss like I did her I used to do her Hustler you Hustler hustling this y y'all want me to tell Y how I knew I was hust cuz I sat back I said dang I been had hustling in my blood cuz when I was a like a little kid I used to go to school I used to be selling Kool-Aid out the little packets like the Koolaid sugar I cry the kids give me my money here pour it in they hand I a going I used to take I used to take the chips and the snacks from home honey buns oatmeal PS come to school selling it to the kids I'm like Mama they they be saying they hungry so she let me fill my book bags up I'm yeah the candy lady I've been to and then when I was in Middle School I used to do my own hair and then I seen the girl me that they hair done so they started coming to me like can you do my hair and I'm like sure I'm in middle school I'm just doing some but it started like and that's how it got me popping like I was known as the hood hottest hair stus yeah I used to cut hair too yeah did you really yeah I used to cut all all the kids in the hood they Mama used to come bring $5 a head yeah before cuz when you're an artist really about say when you're an artist like really be cuz it's really scul that's really what it is you're just sculpting you know what I mean like and fading it's just kind of like taking removing material where did you get the confidence not only like musically to do like you know like you were just talking about like out of the box like not just traditional what we've been used to but also from a fashion style like I think of like hey y I think I like the outfit like where' that confidence come from early in your career over time my influences from once I started producing on the second album uh you know I'm buying records and I'm looking at the back of albums looking at all the groups that I'm into looking at Parliament Funkadelic looking at slot Stone looking at those players who played with James Brown blah blah blah and I started to notice the people that I were attracted to and I was like that's who I want to be like you know so a lot of my heroes from Prince to slide that's all in me like Punk artist I always went to like who look like they having the most fun telling them what truth so that's kind of like that was a big influence and honestly man my crew man like all the people in my me and big and CEO were the youngest in the dungeon at the time all my homies from Rico to Gib um Kujo TMO they were a little older than us so they had been rapping longer than us so we kind of like sitting and watching like my first studio session was uh hanging out with Rico them going and and GB used to be in a group called East Point Chain Gang and so my first um Studio visit was hanging with reek they go to the studio to produce gum so it's kind of like my whole crew like when you build a community of people which is so important when you have Crews in the dungeon it became like an island and we developed our own lingo our own slang our own look and you build confidence in your crew where you don't get what nobody outside that say and it's kind of like once you get that kind of power you take it out in the world like same way like Japan was with nobody for a long time and they cultivated themselves and they became Japan and then they opened up the doors but they were confident in who they were like they were confident in what they offered to the world so I have to say man my crew my crew built me you know what I mean like you know rest in peace Rico but Rico there were times when like I would say raps to Rico and he would just get up and walk he might be smoking the BL he might get up and walk away and it was so disrespectful to me as a kid I was like this mother man like but to him he was like no that ain't good enough and so your crew make you harder make you better like abely and if you in a dungeon was a real Dungeon where it was like dirt on the wall yeah what was the yeah tell us what the cuz we all know Dungeon Family what was the physical place like cuz it was a it was a studio almost right uh it was a makeshift Studio we had like house speakers and a few drum machines and like car seats that were tore out of cars on dirt Flo it was like a crawl space and Rico's Mama house and Rico was kind and Visionary enough to let us all young stay in her house in the basement um that's crazy if that if if she wouldn't have opened her doors and let we it wouldn't be it wouldn't be no dungeon shout out Miss Wade shout to her yeah yeah yeah yeah he was like sometime you got to have somebody with a cool mama oh God real like one friend in the group house they got she let smoke yeah yeah she I mean we was never disrespectful I'm sure from her point was safe and she was like if they in my house then I know they ain't out there doing nothing yeah got like that I don't know if she would like agreed but it be alternative she it be alter we would downstairs and so she let it happen and so it was really a house with a family I mean like Rico's two sisters were going to high school every day we beating all night beats like loud like smoke all and they got to wake up in the morning and go to school like it was a house you know so she must have believed in y'all or something take take I was a hustler man like Rico had the vision like Rico made us believe you know like so RP Rico RP yeah you ask me where it come from I'm only like a product of the dung you know like they gave me cuz I'm an only child like I I wasn't really confident in school like it took me a minute to learn how to perform even like I was a nervous kind of like like kid so my dungeon kind of like gave me like a platform to kind of Go free go do yourself yeah you had the same thing obviously yeah for sure Drew yep yep I had the crew same type of thing my mom was that Mom though cuz all the homies always used to come over my house cuz my mom was like so know my mom was only 16 years older than me so I mean I'm a High School freshman my mom 30 so she ain't about to be in the house all day she she out doing her thing I'm I'm only child too so like I get it but the all the homies always want to come my that sound yeah I know your mom you had you the only child yeah Mama was cool as hell my mom was strict as a mother yeah my mom man she wasn't having it man like my mom she did not play and I'm my only child man it was like and I think that's why I'm wild now cuz she was so man growing up she was she was so strict man like and you got to like I dropped out of school and told my momma and what grade 10th grade no 11th grade that's well well we was like smoking and leaving school they kicked me out of school and sent me to alternative school and that's when me and CEO met back up at the alternative school and at that point I'm rapping I'm going to the dungeon every day I'm like man I'm not doing this school so I just kind of dropped out got it and I told my momma I'm about to do this reciting words over beats thing she like what the reciting words over beats now I'm about to be a rapper I'm about to be a rapper boy leg I'm about to do these reciting words mom over these musical instruments she she didn't take that kindly man like you thought you had that figured out before you the word play before I don't even think I said it like that but I'm just trying to think I I I'm trying to think how she's thinking like so you going so you going to say some words you going to drop out of school and say some words over be that's your plan and so I can understand from a mom standpoint she was like hell no and so she went with it like it like they wouldn't even let us sign our um recordal we could have signed early on but my mom wouldn't let me do it sign so we had to wait need a guardian yeah you 18 years it is it is so it's like a I don't know about you guys it's like a full circle moment for me I'm from New York hearing you hearing these stories about Dungeon Family hearing you at 16 and then remembering the self got something to say yeah right you at what year was that 9495 got boo can you talk a little bit about that do you remember that moment like I totally remember it uh it was not planned uh it looked brave but I was nervous as a mother I was just angry man cuz like we in New York and we love New York we grew up on all New York Music Man and when they announced who I think the world was Best New Artist or something like that and I think salt and pepper and somebody else opened the envelope so Best New Artist is Outcast like they read it like that yeah so we were Ang like we dungeon whole crew there man like and I was just angry man like and I just felt like I don't know it just came out and I just said that like what' you say the South got said the South got something to say you watch this video yeah I don't even remember the whole thing but I I just knew hating on the south at that point you know what I mean it was a while but I just remember uh just being really angry and driven because like we've been creating this music man we've been in the dungeon where like and we just felt like y'all don't get it right you know and sometimes you you you have to show people man and it is well I I'll tell you full circle being they give you drive though and and I actually appreciate it now cuz it made us go harder for sure but I'll tell me though but I'll Tell You full circle being in New York and you probably you guys probably heard this it's like there was a time when New York wouldn't play any southern music any West Coast music radio right on the radio right Hot 97 power all that and then that shifted and New York radio started Flack that they were only playing Atlanta down south music all that and that New York artists was starting to sound like Atlanta artists like what did that feel like it coming full circle where like the music kind of shifted towards like Georgia I always say never hate on nobody cuz you don't know where they going to end up man like and it's just what's always on top going to be on bottom at some point so it's just a shift just wait for your turn man it's going to happen she said it she said timing Happ you said they did you like that too huh who did you like that you said they I heard you say they everybody like they still don't believe in me so I just be like I'm going just show you and like he said they don't be understanding like we really came from nothing and then we be making a big achievements like that's something for us and then they just be like you ain't doing nothing but for us it's like ain't nobody doing this so it's use it for fewu hater fuel man it's the best it's free energy I like when they talk about me free energy cuz that that make me go that make me go in I I love when somebody doubts you mhm cuz I'm now I'm going to show you something yeah use it use Jerry you being a black man in fashion you must get that all the time like Gatekeepers oh yeah I mean but I was going to say like when we did that show at the Hollywood Bowl the theme was the South got something to say and I was like I got something to say yeah man and I think that moment and the realness of that moment you know what I mean is what what drove me to say no we're not showing in Paris we got something to say right here in LA and it's going to be just as eloquent just as sophisticated just as beautifully just as beautiful but you know still like every element you know and you know it's it's it's always a fight it's anybody trying and talk you out of that like yo you got to show them Paris you should be there nah nah no one tried to talk me out of it I was too convicted going in I tried to talk myself out of it a week before like please rain like what am I doing because you got nervous oh man I was scared to death I was like the week before I was like what the hell did I get myself into um you know but the collection showed up we start styling I was like you know we already did the work once I started looking at the pieces I was like the work is done we just got to show up but um but that moment man it was like I remember that moment 95 I graduated high school in 95 like that and and and I went to fam and I just remember you know even some of the lines back then like you know all you you think we are uh hip hop is booty shake yeah you know what I mean of course and then to like be here today and it's like we are that and we are that and it doesn't mean that one is all black people is different one one is better than the other you know what I mean and it's like the fight to be able to just be what you want to be exactly you know and I feel like that was the question that you were asking LeBron is like okay you were looking up to Mike but I you at what at what point did you realize you can become something greater right I was about 17 period 17 you I think I was a junior in high school that's when I I think my summer of Junior going into my senior year I was I was on a cover of Sports Illustrated they had dubbed me the chosen one um and and every tournament I was going to playing against the consensus number one players or top 100 guys I I was just like I was doing that sometimes was out of body for myself I'm I couldn't even believe some of that I was doing yeah and then I think at that at that moment around 17 I knew I could be LeBron but do you still like not not Jordan not Penny not you know I could still use them as inspiration and still get some creative from them by still watching and studying them because they've done it longer and I got to still I'm still respecting that I'm still respecting that craft because they are doing it and they've done it and they've won and whatever the case may be King griffy Jr is part of that Deion Sanders you know is a part of that all you know what I'm saying but I started to I started to feel like oh you can now you can you could be a part of that room oh God that's 17 and it's up to you to to go get it do you still have out of bodies hell yeah this many hours of playing hell yeah that's when that Spirit working man that Spirit working it's kind of yeah it's kind of like when you when you transcend what you thought you could be that's a great moment man I've seen it happen in my career I've seen it happen in other rappers careers where I'm sure they were like whoa I didn't even think I would do that Dre Dre when you make like going back to some of the outcast then you have you ever wrote a verse like I think this is pretty then put it out into the world and the world be like oh my like you didn't meaning you mismeasured it you you thought it was good but then when you put it out for us we was like oh this just went like I said he thought it was good but it's great the reaction it's normally him but to other people like or or did you know oh this this is one of them well I I didn't know but uh even when you writing it uh I get a sense of man I don't know where they coming from so it's like it's happening at that time just like when you doing a move and you like I don't know what and it's happening that's kind of like when you cuz when you start flowing any rapper they know what I'm talking about like you get the rapper Spirit where words start coming together like oh oh oh oh oh oh oh you know and it's kind of thing that you not like I could have never thought of that on my human own you know what I mean so at that point when I say the spirit working I whatever you believe in you believe in God you believe in Jesus all that kind of stuff but the spirit there's something un underneath like these are Earth suits we just wearing it to be able talking walking but the spirit in there you know that when we die it go somewhere else the spirit that get to working man and that's when you when you channeling like as a musician man musicians I know it the same way like it's it's it's really uh an alive spirit and that's where you want to be I know from I know from a a listener's aspect when I listen to music I have a sense of oh that mother was an a bag when they was writing that or in the booth saying that I can feel that like or like you saying how the words is just hitting off each other like like you like oh that's that spirit it's a little confidence in there too that yeah of course cuz you know you put the work in you put the work in but it's definitely a feeling of I I'm not sure how I did that it's the confidence in the work but you you clearly know that uh it's almost a humbling thing too it is because you know whoa this ain't me you some people can take it as oh I'm that but at the same time you like I'm just you know what I mean and it's happening you know I like that was God cuz ain't no way I be like that's God like whenever something crazy happened I be like that was God yeah I do that that was God it's some happening man and that's where that's where you want to be like that's the best place to be when it appears as if I'm I'm in my bag I know that it's God you know and I think all I can do is be obedient to the call and the more I'm obedient to the call I know he's going to show up and all all that does is give me the confidence that I'm in purpose that I'm in his intention for what he wants me to do and like you said Dre it's like it's more humbling than it is like look at me it's like God how I can't believe you could show up through me like [Music] that we were having a conversation back about money always matters but at a certain point it can't be the most significant thing in terms of like how you make decisions like what is your decision-making process in terms of like yeah like in terms of like when you're creating what's driving that peace like no amount of money in the bank account can like make me sleep good at night that fear God's going to be okay period as long as I know that I'm doing what I'm called to do that's where I find my peace and that's the that's like the lane I have to like stay in is like being right with him you know and that's like you know last few years you know I kind of fell off that track a little and started to think it was me you felt that you felt that really oh yeah for sure you how did you how did you know you had falling off and what stopped you like oh let me get it I was something happen self-medicating you know with stress I you know started looking everywhere except to him for direction and then the dangerous thing is when you do that you take on the weight that you're not supposed to carry it's his weight not ours you know there's no way I can run a company there's no way I can make decisions if me and him are right and sexy you as a as an artist how do you balance out like we got to get to the bag now we got to get it versus like you have a vision for your career and what that thing looks like right cuz it's not all created equal I'm patient I be like I'mma just wait my time and that's awesome yeah like I just where's that patience come from uh cuz I be knowing like what it is I like I know what I I know what I'm capable of so like it's just going to take them to know patient everybody but like he you do feel when you fall off and you just got to get back in m and then you keep going you feel that you feel like okay I'm back like how you know when if you falling all of that off that track if I don't keep doing the same that I was doing like to keep me where I was and then get dry you could just tell like you ain't have motion or something like and it be boring too so it's like you need to stay busy and do something stay engaged stay you're the king of thing this been engag his whole life he never you got doing you unplug for you got do all the time like am I still alive and sometimes you got to let people go that's negative or bring you down cuz negative energy be real like you could be a positive person but negative people they bring your energy like yeah for sure and you young too like you know we we older station over here like you young and you going I mean for you to know that right now that's one of the hardest in the world how do you deal with that as a Athlete on a team if we're on a team Y and there is a guy that's bringing negative energy here but we're on the team he's showing up the practice every day he on the bus with you on the plane if you were in a group you could be like yo I'm out of this group but on a team you might be stuck with that huh lechang we all see it you icy M or something what do you I don't try to I I don't know if I would icy M I just try to keep my own now you got got to now you got to start tapping back into your own piece exactly cuz the worst thing can happen is you allow and you allow something that you have no control over a affect your inner piece okay but let me ask you this if we have a guy in the locker room who's bringing negative energy you're able to go okay he Not Gon but you see he's with PR and we need PR to win well that's I gotta go talk to P okay got it yeah I gotta go now I got I got to my my direction and my energy is towards P yeah you know I will start with that individual first but if I know I can't get through to him you know at a rate that I that I need him to get through to you know now I have to I have to shift it you can't save him you got I can't save him I have to Shi I have to shift it to somebody else maybe maybe he not maybe it's not spreading through everybody you know what I'm saying because that is contagious but at what point do you say hey I'm LeBron James and our goal here is to win a championship foret and to make a change one thing real friend of ours Jimmy ivine one of our favorite quotes is when the when the get bigger than the cat you get rid of the cat you know and that's the truth that's in everything in life when get bigger than the cat the cat got to go because at the end of the day nobody is bigger than the what's the what is our main goal we all come here as a team we say we a team we set the main goal and every time quarterly you know we saying okay this what we want to accomplish and then out of left field you coming in here and you saying no I ain't going through I ain't going through the back door I'm going through the front this is how I want to tackle but no literally the the the enemy is right there at the front door don't go through the front we can go through the back and INF trade through this way and be more tactical about it no this is what I'm on I'm on this I'm going through the front that ain't no team play go ahead go through the front you got to be a team player go ahead go through the front we you know respect but do your thing the rest of us we going to tackle through the B but that took you a while to develop that's Dev yeah yeah yeah you know you you know you want to you want to when you're a young man when you're a young from the hood you you always feel like you want to be a part of drama so come in with bad energy N I want to have bad energy and let let's get at it what's up drama with drama with drama that's all you know that's all you know just drama meets drama man when you get older you know what I'm saying you start having kids oh my God but sexy you sound like you already there yeah bro like I know I be tripping cuz like now cuz this how I know I be tripping cuz like I get mad and go off on somebody and if they come back at me and hit me with something like on some nice then I be like oh I was tripping I'm sorry my bad I Ain me just I'm sorry you nice I don't even want to do you like that I mean Dre was talking about earlier listening to all different type of genres and music you obiously just perform with Zack Bryant Band right how was that how did that feel to get brought in by that audience be were you nervous it's also country music for those that don't know like i' be nervous i' be nervous meeting people cuz I don't know like I'm a shy person and I ain't know how he was going to be but they like he want to bring you out so was you nervous because of him or because of the crowd like was you like damn or thises crowd going to know who the hell I don't be caring about like what people think about me but I don't know it just was something difference I'm like why he want to bring me out like we two totally different people but they like he like you okay and did we hear that sexy red is shy is that yeah I am I be get nervous really before shows or before what before shows uh just period like if I got to meet people like I don't be I'll be shy where's that so me as a regular civilian person I look at you guys like yeah very regular huh regular yeah very regular you guys like you guys at the Pinnacle of like what you guys do to hear that you're nervous bugs me out like you got nervous still today before show every time homie mind um yeah Carlos Neo he was like cuz sometimes before shows uh you know we're in our huddle and I'm nervous yeah I get nervous every time we about to perform even Outcast just but he was like oh yeah that's you're full of nerves your body is full of nerves you're supposed to be nervous if you're not nervous it's it's almost like a check to make sure you still alive so nerves just let you know I'm I'm alive you know so I treat it like that like yeah just letting you know getting your body ready for we about to go into something yeah for me the nerves for me feel like um like I'm still I'm still in it mhm like I'm still in it the fact that I could still get nervous before a game or a match or whatever the case may be no matter if it's a random Tuesday in Milwaukee or if it's a in season 20 you still nervous for regular season Gam yeah yeah yeah because I mean a lot somebody going to be in in the stadium that night man 20,000 that maybe have never seen me play before so like I'm thinking about that type like how my performance gonna be I can't I can't bed tonight for this person that's for the first time coming to see me play like you know that that's nerves and then you know maybe my baby girl tonight maybe she stayed up late you know maybe Zu stayed up late watching her dad play tonight you know cuz I didn't came home before and she's like I didn't came home before and Z was like Dad you know I can help y'all right yeah yeah Dad I just need a uniform dad and I can I can help y'all for sure but like you know like I I think you know back to what what sta was saying just like it's a sense of just like feeling alive and just being present still you just feel present like even though you can feel in your stomach though but you still also get think about not not necessarily get nervous but like like the feeling of like cuz one thing about sports we were talking about sports earlier like I'm gonna dominate my matchup the guy that's match up with me I'm here to dominate you bro that that's not necessarily nervous a little anxious to do that yeah yeah that comes that comes after after the nerves kind of go away you break a sweat it's probably the same way for y'all like when that be dropping y'all finally get and y'all see the crow like about to dominate this yeah you got to get in M you said that and stacks grabbed the yeah yeah he like yeah I was just gon to say that me and my friend we compare rapping to basketball like we' be like like this person was new in the game and they was the hottest and they was at all like we always comp so you got that nerves Ming then like right kind of before you know the uh curtains open and you see the crowd the lights come on boom you're like yeah now it's time to dominate oh God I like I just like ID be in a bag they like it's okay you got this you got this ID be sipping water like somebody pass me they like calm down calm down and I just be sitting there quiet like then soon as stage up I come out there like yeah yeah yeah y a going to know I'm nervous back and you talk about Hollywood Bowl being nervous right like same thing like you're nervous till lights and music plays and then you're in it yeah but I mean I think for us for fashion like we in it when the collection shows up and we styling out getting ready for it it's like all right it's on it's game it's on it's game time man I got two questions for you man it's two verses stick out my head to it we're in the shop baby let's get to it the shop one verse you did with um I think that was I think it was tii song Sorry my favorite yeah oh my God wait before you do that we talk about a pocket before before you go these two got to go yes okay okay okay okay LeBron Jes keep going big sexy do your thing thank you keep doing keep doing your thing love sexy hi's you ain't good to see you hello hi how you doing thank you for having me of course you for me yes sir how you feeling maning Sylvester what's good long overdue I'm surprised you got with you but I wasn't sure right into the show I could have parked it right here right you should have pulled up right the man next time next time so go ahead so you had two oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean we we was on we was on the conversation we was on the conversation about when you in the zone and you know you was in the zone okay sorry and then what's the uh track that he did with Devon the dud too when he's explaining to the college kids that's the that may be the best verse ever heard remember that it's called uh what a job what a job Sno snoop snoop snoop that is a slept on song oh my God man I forgot all about that one but what's crazy is a lot of people you talk to the couple and they be crying and you you the whole thing is you like this is why I love this job yeah man we s around the beat like a campfire man yeah yeah that's crazy I'll be forgetting about a lot of that stuff man but um was crazy a lot of people don't know that Deon Devon the D was very inspirational when we were kids cuz he was in a group called Odd Squad Odd Squad was a group from Houston I think or Texas and uh they had a song called up your for show trying to get some more by way That's a classic man like we us kids like a before he was before he was Deon the dude and so I was like so happy that he reached out for me to get on what a job cuz I was like man you don't understand how much being big like used to listen to our Squad yeah I think I think they were signed a rap a lot yeah was a rap lot lot so that but and then a sorry verse is like a very deep almost like it feels like therapeutic for you a bit like you saying that you have been to me y'all put me on a you had been holding this in and you AP like the songur you apologized to some people about some you had been going through yeah yeah I mean for me like as a rapper man I grew up in the most effective rappers they talked about real in their life and so when I became a rapper that's kind of what I wanted to do so a lot of times I'm just uh letting people know that I'm human I go through things so them verses be real for me you know they not just you know rap or I'm that yeah bragado doio I mean that's cool too but I be wanting to like to connect with people you know I mean like hit them I know you ain't on your rap right now but I'm I'm definitely listening to those two verses on my way home for sure I swear to God I got you I I hadn't heard them in a long time I got you I got a since we're asking I'm going to get mine in since we're asking about verses the UGK verse oh of course which so good to this day it gets played at weddings oh yeah for sure first of all at draymond's wedding we went crazy that was like the entrance to yeah was the entrance I don't if you know that so Draymond Green got married that was the entrance that was the entrance they walked into that my [Music] shoes the dichotomy of Dre going and then the beat dropping yeah okay so I got a funny story about that you know your part rest in peace uh pimp but I got a story about that pimp was so mad at me because they sent the beat and I you know wrote my verse put my words down and I took the beat out for to to rap when I sent it back to them like man this this mother man godamn you know godamn take my beat out like who you think he is so he was he was really mad at the choice that I made to take the beat and I think I don't know if it was um bun or somebody they were like uh no but you understand when that beat dropped though it set it off so it's almost like a setup and for you like so it worked and once he got there he was like okay okay but he was so mad at me he was like go International Players Anthem the song Pimp C goes second his name is Pimp C first off second off he's one of the best rappers ever lived but his rap is about being a pimp and being a player Dre's verse is about no I actually I'm ready to get married it's a it's you wouldn't think it works but because it's real you are real and pimp is real and in everybody else it really works and flows so good D you just trying to find a way to uh contribute to a song you know like okay like okay like I know I ain't no pimp like that so but my homies are you know so how can I display a situation that makes sense for the song and so you just set it up and where I was in my life at the time uh I wasn't you know trying to get married at the time but I know I was no pimp either so it's kind of like uh that setup of that story made what big and everybody else doing made sense even like the Kanye song like I knew that subject matter because my mother had died his mother had died so I was like okay how can I set yay up for to talk about Miss D hey Miss D you know so it's my mama talking to his mom but it's like you figure out how can I how can I make a useful contribution to the song yeah and even what a job it's kind of like to explain what a job this is that I'm doing so you try to make just some type you listen to what a job go it's greatest ever say to you right now I got my phone I I got to give these guys sum you got you got to go home and listen to all I I love your song Heya it's also my cousin's name oh oh thank you but that same but that same thing what he saying H there a thing in comedy that you do really well your comedy is she say some real so real oh yes she do it's so real about your experience growing up and who you are some comedians choose to talk about about their personal things in their life and some talk about what's happening in the world you choose to do make it very personal yeah because I can say whatever they can't cancel me they can't pronounce my name you know Ming from penic Express who is that actually whatever she talked about she talked about her parents almost oh yeah away my was missing so my throwing a dumpster she said yeah yo also Andre you saw me coming so you get a traffic Kong I'm not driving right now why are you doing this no I just like traffic cones and I just I saw one outside I was like hey can I can I use this and put it right here yeah but you choose to make Barry her comedy is very oh she go there she go there she go there and you know you love that feeling how would you be if you went to China in China do they like if you do they accept you your jokes um no they they don't like me because I talk um yeah I'm not popular they like me but they just uh think I talk too much and that's also why my husband left they they got know me they're like oh she talks they can't mute me was where was your husband from uh I don't remember I think the first one is Russian I didn't know his him I didn't knew it coming he just invited my one day like okay he's here I was I went to Kentucky LeBron I know you you are from Ohio I went to Kentucky Lexington Kentucky how did you start doing comedy by the way actually um I was auditioning trying to get booked but my accent you know I can't speak English people don't like my accent I couldn't get a job but then one day I was auditing for John Singleton his TV show um called Rebel it is a black girl she's a cop from Oakland and then a Chinese girl is a s kick has no skung Fu so that's Rush our budget um Rush our budget yeah just shooting right now so I forgot my lines I start doing improv and and John Singleton just start laughing he's like you're very funny do you know who this this is Al one you should do stand up comedy so I'm like do I have the job now he's like hell no I don't understand what you said but he got me into openm and I started doing open m then I bought a club in one month wow that to me that's that's very awesome that you bought a club because you kind of like made your own space for you to try out your own jokes yeah like man that's entrepreneurial sure I knew I wasn't good and I need 10,000 hours and nobody want me on stage because when you are not good nobody wants you on stage so I bought a club where at Maro and kunga is right there and that's what happens when you don't marry for love in yourself best in yourself but I can't stand outside though I have Mexican working for me because if I stand outside people always want to get their nails done they're like yo Jesus you know what I love about comedians like my it's the same thing that I as a kid what I loveed about rappers like comedians they can say what the they want to say and and it's real but it's like an an an accepted way because you laughing with rap you rocking to a beat so I can say what whatever I want to say so it's kind of like I think there's a certain realness and I think comedians are the realest mother out for sure you know what I mean but they trying to hush them now though right which I think is hor I think it's horrible they they're supposed to make fun of society and what we go through yeah like we getting too touchy man I agree my two favorite in the world they don't they not let nobody silence them and that's Bill Burr and Dave Chapel oh yeah yeah those are my two favorites that I know I can get a good old school when was growing up laugh cuz they going they not they not letting nobody yeah not their art for it's art it's like art it's realness about what y'all do and to be able to say y'all truth but also having an ability to make households laugh is something that should never be taken away yes you know that when we was growing up you already know we always we roast sessions all the timebody that made you tough made you we call it Jo yeah you going get jumped out sure also making black people laugh is the hardest thing they don't they don't give you pity laugh if not funny they're just like I I I I did the Apollo Theater last year um uh I you get through your Set uh yeah I did hour that's a win oh that's and um it was very scary because you can't black people don't give you pity love you know they are like Chinese moms they'll tell you why you suck and they will make sure you understand you should die true black people show up to the show just like she ain't about to make me laugh you have to work really hard to make show up like yeah and pay for tickets what is your mom thinking your comedy oh she's like just because you're ugly doesn't mean you are funny you know not ugly people are funny I said Mom I was not ugly I was Miss China 2014 she goes no you're older you're Miss Chinatown damn you miss trying town so quick on the goddamn drone quick like yes she say you miss China to miss China so so one of the things stack mentioned was uh that he respected of you being entrepreneurial I mean we have a young entrepreneur here young Nigel Sylvester um I've always I've known Nigel and I go back too far at this point that I want I want to share how long right but I've always respected that when you ask who Nigel is it's like he's a BMX star but you don't compete right you literally created your own lane talk a little bit about that I had to um coming up in the game for me man like it was all about content right it was like asked my mom to get me um a little Sony handicam and I remember like that Christmas by the time I got the camera working it was too dark outside so I used the Christmas lights on the house to light up the frame to shoot content cuz I understood like I needed to create these videos this is prior to the internet right there's no social media no YouTube yet so to get sponsored which was the dream for me to go pro had to make sponsor me tapes so I would shoot these videos and kind of send them out to different brands nobody sponsored me off of that of course like it was the thing but that's what I got into and from that point I was like okay I know I need to be self-sufficient and build like to build my brand up and you always knew that you wanted to ride like you used to do that you as a kid because I mean obviously we all used to ride bikes I mean you know just doing it with the homies riding around thinking you can jump and spin them thinking you can spin the handle bars like how how you get good at that how you KN like like I'm nice with this you know for me like it happened I was 4 years old you said four four years old so I so I stayed at my grandmother's house when I was a kid she had a daycare and she always had kids around and toys and everything in in the driveway I came outside one day and there was a tricycle in the driveway for some reason I was like I'm going to get on it and rip it around the driveway and I'm pedaling it super fast you know tricycle has the pedals on like the front wheel and for some reason I decided to lock up the front wheel and the back of the tricycle spun around and my older cousin was like yo do that again so I did it again he was like oh now that's crazy so he set up these cones similar to that cone right there he set up these cones in the driveway was like do that around those cones I started drifting on my tricycle as 4 years old and I fell in love with bicycle riding that day I love so you've been riding bikes since then since then you want to do it the rest of your life I knew in that point like I love bike riding at 12 years old when I realized okay I can do this Pro I seen it on TV I was like I seen guys with their helmets and their chest pads all the stickers on going on the ramps I was like that's what I want to do yeah and N we we sit here knowing the success you've had and the brand you've built and all of those things but take us back to when you're in Queens right and you're telling the homies I'm going to be a BMX right they're like what are you even talking about talk I mean listen I grew up in laurelon Queens right promly black neighborhood so I'm coming around talking about I want to be a professional bike R they like you on that white boy right like that's what it was because at that point in time our experience was it was just seeing young white men creating like having success at BMX riding we didn't have any skate parks there was no media around like like how you gonna do that and I sorted out man like I had to go to the city I had to go to Manhattan and I with like a bunch of riders from like Brooklyn Manhattan Queens whatever would like congregate black and white black white everything everything and that's why I started to like that's why I met my tribe for that's when you yeah got it who you want to be with right and I started to me different photographers different videographers who put me onto the game and I start to get my name out there man that's dope now Dre one thing I want to as you about is like we had LL on the show who's OB he was like I'm about to put out another album and we started talking about you I don't know if you saw it but we of course of course I saw of course we started talking about you he was like that I want to hear Dre rap like it's cool to be older rapper like people are L like trying not to be like as you get older not rap what's your thoughts on that but to be clear he was like I don't want to hear him play the flu I want to hear him did say that for sure yeah yeah and to me like I feel like if it's in you cuz I got still got home as my age and older than me that still rap so I'm like if it's in you you should rap until you die you should perform until you die like if it's in you but what I'm saying is what it takes for me to do it I'm always looking for the next I'm not trying to uphold a thing that I've done before like I'm trying like of course I have things to say now but if I can't say them in a fresh Innovative way like if I feel like I'm just hanging on to something a same flow that I used to do or it's not uh it's not enough for me so I can't talk for another rapper about what they doing um I just say man go for it like if it's in you you still get people sending you tracks all the time I'm sure right like you you do this yeah yeah uh is it hard for you to say no to people no no it's not hard because uh no no no no it's not because I mean I and what I always say is it depend on the beat cuz sometimes somebody can send me a beat and I go right in you feel it and it may not be like a popular artist like even the Walk It Out song He was a Atlanta guy like I didn't he he didn't have records but my homie sent me to beat and I was like oh yeah I'm on this you felt it yeah can you feel it like in the minute you put on you got to listen to it a couple times I can I can know that I want to get on it as soon as I hear it and there are songs that I wanted to get on so bad it was a a very famous Wayne song uh and I think Juicy Jay was on it uh what's it bands to make her dance that's J but that hard and I tried I tried all kinds of ways did you have verses or that didn't sound right like did you record anything uh no cuz I'm I'm a writer I'm not a freestyle uh like I pen things so I do try things gozy to myself you know in my head to see if if it's working and it just I couldn't I couldn't get it working can you imagine stacks on that a verse on that man I want to be on that so bad man that's amazing well I'll tell you one thing it's a billi Up Artist hoping they they pull something from you they see yeah but but for me for me too like cuz it's it's therapeutic and get a chance for me to yeah to go you know what I mean like it's a blessing to go a lot of people think like I'm holding rap so it's like I'm no like rap is awesome like yeah since we're on that topic talking about like that we working on I got this new album coming out you must s with me yeah get it to you you know what I'm saying I mean if you it co not going worry about it you know what I'm saying don't worry about [Music] it so Stacks is there a chance that we may see Andre 3000 do stand up yes woo I'm so excited anyway when they were asking me about rapping and I was like I ain't got nothing to rap about at 50 like what I'm going to rap about call now speak that's actually one of my jokes [Music] he [Music]

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