AMD Ryzen 5 5600G APU Review & Benchmarks: $260 CPU + GPU (vs. 5600X & More)

[Music] today we're reviewing an amd apu that doesn't come out officially for another two months but it's been floating around in the oem pre-built market for a little while now and that is the 5600g so it's an r5 apu that means it has vega graphics integrated it's not rdna and it also means that it's minimally a stop gap if you don't have a gpu to potentially a reasonable solution for certain types of gaming so we're going to be reviewing that of course we'll review the time machine we use to get this later but we'll start with the amd 5600g and the 260 dollar price bracket for an apu before that this video is brought to you by keoxia said to be the original inventors of nand flash memory and formerly known as toshiba memory kiouksia's xg6 m.2 ssd is a high-end nvme ssd claiming up to 3180 megabytes per second read and 2960 megabytes per second write speeds sequentially and it's ideally used in high performance gaming pcs or power conscious laptops the xg6 is available up to one terabyte and the company also has its bg4 ssd in a much smaller m.2 2230 form factor for up to one terabyte of ultra compact storage learn more about keoxia at the links in the description below including about their enterprise storage products so some basics for these these are actually available they are being sold in pre-built and if you check amd's website for the 5600g it actually lists the official launch date as march 13th or so of this year but the official launch date to the diy market as opposed to just the launch date to the market in general is august 5th so it's a little ways away because this is a retail available product we're under no obligations from amd in terms of embargoes or anything like that and it also means that it's a finalized product to some extent but with a couple of months between when these started shipping out to actual users who bought pre-built systems at retail and the time at which the diy systems or diy parts come out separately it's possible that there are iterative changes in drivers or in the silicone quality or something like that so we'll revisit these as we get in the uh more official diy part review samples we don't suspect there to be any major changes because again this is something that you can actually buy it's not like we went through back channels to get it you can just buy it on the market openly if you especially if you go through like hp or someone who carries it in larger quantities couple of notes here if you go to try and buy one of these standalone right now as opposed to through a pre-built system you're probably going to pay scalper prices and cpus are not being as heavily scaled as gpus we've been able at least in the u.s market where we check to find 5 800 x's 5600 x's or some variant of a 10 series intel cpu in stock close to msrp or below it in intel's cases a lot of time pretty regularly now for a few months so don't pay scalp prices if you can avoid it for something like an apu because there are other parts out there and some of them even do have igps in them so it's not quite as bad as the gpu market uh we're just trying to make sure people don't rip themselves off by accident because they see this review they see one of these on ebay for 500 and they buy it you shouldn't do that so these are supposed to be 260 parts when they come out for the 5600g a little more expensive for the 5700g but there are normal cpus in stock as well again through retailers so the specs page from amd says it's a six core 12 thread part that matches for the 56 naming like the 5600 x it says it has seven gpu cores or compute units cus by amd's radeon terminology it's a 65 watt tdp it has an adjustable tdp down to 45 watts and it runs a 3.9 to 4.4 gigahertz base or boost for limited core boosting there's a 1900 megahertz gpu spec and we'll check on that in benchmarking official memory support like the rest of zen three and this is zen three by the way it's seven nanometers is 3200 megahertz you can overclock as desired we tested with our normal c14 3200 megahertz with tuning uh trident zrgb kit as a reminder we've found that this setup that we use for standardized testing on everything runs faster than a lot of the 3600 kits so this is all standardized that means you can compare everything to each other from one igp from intel to amd's apus or between the cpu and dgpu combinations if there's enough interest and please let us know below we might look into a separate memory piece with the apu specifically the reason that's been interesting in the past is pretty simple it's because there's no onboard memory because it's not a video card and so that means when the cus in this need to get something out of memory they're traveling to system memory if they can't find it in a closer cache and traveling to system memory is it's a further journey and uh the memory is not particularly fast when you compare against say gddr6x on a pcb that contains the substrate for the gpu in a dgpu solution in speaking with amd though previously the memory impact on these apus it sounds like shouldn't be as severe as we've seen sometimes in the past in fact amd's charts that it presented during its keynote whenever it announced them were using 3200 megahertz memory but as a reminder i was just tuned the most maybe obvious competition with this would be a cheap cpu and dgpu that's normally the case the market is screwy now so it throws the pricing off but for the last week while we've been working on this we've been consistently able to find an intel i3 10 100 in stock for about 125 to 140 depending and a gt 1030 gddr5 version for about 120 bucks so that puts us in the range of 240 to maybe 260 for the cpu plus dgpu cheap combination versus the 260 apu that would be the best comparison because in the past what we've been looking at in a normal market is very simple it's if you have a really strict budget do you buy an apu for something like 120 140 bucks or do you buy a cheap cpu and d gpu that might be like a pentium g 3568 or whatever it's called or it might be something like a cheap r3 cpu and some low end gpu often it would be a 710 or a 1030 something in that class don't buy a ddr5 1030 by the way now there's a slightly different angle where aps are also a stop gap solution if you need something to run anything while you wait for a more permanent gpu and so with the 5600g you end up with a cpu that's relatively powerful so that it doesn't become useless when you do eventually upgrade it to a dedicated gpu you still have a six core 12 thread zen three ryzen part in there even if the igp becomes worthless at that point let's get into some of the testing as a reminder this is an official product that means it is all working and it's something you can buy through oams but it's also not officially out through diy very strange situation so we will be revisiting this as things iterate and move towards diy launch let's start with some validation testing before we get started with the testing some notes on the setup first off not every board will support these apus you'll obviously need on-board display out of some kind usually hdmi in order to use the igp but other than that it's pretty standard you'll also need a bios update to support the 5600g and 5700g our gigabyte x570 master for example was unable to boot with the 5600g so we had to switch over to a different board it's the gigabyte b550 aorus pro this isn't a big deal just if you're planning to buy a pre-built system and rip the apu out of it check the cpu support list on the board you're intending to use before you commit to buying both of those things even if you intend on using a normal video card and never using integrated graphics you'll need to make sure the board is compatible bios is mostly the same it's the usual amd overclocking options and gigabyte bios combination with the key difference being an amd overclocking sub page for integrated graphics overclocking this menu isn't very fleshed out it has two entries and that's it but as this is ahead of the official diy launch it's possible that this expands with other boards in the future the options are for graphics frequency and graphics core voltage both of which can be entered manually graphics frequency needs to be adjusted with the voltage for stability of course and gigabytes bios notes that graphics p states remain active when doing this bioalso also notes that the graphics voltage is derived from the soc or the uncore voltage rails we may try overclocking for a separate video but for now we'll be testing stock since that's how most people use these installing the amd driver package includes the same software suite as what you'd get with an amd gpu it looks the same it's just got different options in it currently the drivers show the gpu frequency the temperature some cpu stats some specs fps and frame times but there's no options for tuning in our driver install at least and there aren't really any options for input in general you have to do all that in bios if you do any of it this chart plots the average all core frequency of the 5600x and the 5600g useful for establishing how useful the 5600g is as just a cpu the r55600g ends up plotting an average all core frequency during blender of about 4 300 megahertz with the 5600 x at 4 400 megahertz the 5600x will outperform the 5600g when ignoring the presence of the igp and you can see the 5600x finishes the work first as well that's why the line ends sooner so this emphasizes that point in single core testing with cinebench we monitored the r5 to 600g is at maximum single core frequency per interval at a fairly flat 4440 megahertz compared to the 4650 megahertz on the r5 5600x the 5600x unsurprisingly is faster when used only as a cpu counter-strike global offensive starts us off for the game benchmarks in our new igp test suite we're testing at 1080p medium settings with a pretty wide mix of parts here and remember that some of these combinations are designed more for academic understanding of where the bottlenecks are rather than for practical use the r55600g does absolutely here we can refer to our pairing of the gt 1030 with an i9 10900k which obviously doesn't make sense but it's helpful for understanding the bottleneck it's the gpu the gt1030 simply is not as powerful as the r55600g in this instance despite running an older vega architecture on amd's part the 260 dollar apu leads the similarly priced 10 100 plus gt 1030 g5 pairing by about 12 that's impressive performance for andy's igp we don't normally see them match the same price to dgpu and cpu pairing as well as they're doing here and of course the gpu shortage isn't doing the dgpu option any favors the iris xe g7 combination in the intel nok ran at 81 fps average allowing amd elite of 47 intel's uhd graphics 750 in the 11600 k ran at 60 fps average showing a gpu bind and allowed a significant lead in the 5600g as for the gt 1030 ddr4 you still shouldn't buy it just like a few years ago but we can see it is better in the one percent low consistency than intel's uhd igps fortnite is next run at 1080p low for the widest support for comparisons the amd apu again leads this particular set of data of course a higher-end dgpu like a gtx 1650 would leave the radeon 7 apu but we're then outside of a direct price match and it's not really the same type of comparison the apu is roughly equal to the gt 1030 gddr5 card which is bottlenecking the 10900k and 11600k cpus the 10100 illustrates this dropping only a few frames from the higher end to cpu pairings intel's integrated uhd 750 and the 630 igps aren't even close to the gt 1030 gddr5 or the 5600g you wouldn't get a good experience on those uhdi gps but for the gt 1030 g5 or the 5600g they're completely playable and they even allow a little bit of extra room for higher settings fortnite's performance mode is even easier to run and expectedly it looks even worse but that's the exchange for a higher frame rate this tells us something interesting that in this task we've become cpu bound rather than gpu bound as we saw in the first three charts the r55600g therefore falls below the gt 1030 performance when combined with the higher performing cpus illustrating a potential weak spot for the apu the intel i3 10 100 and the gt 1030 also maintain an edge gear at a 7.8 percent advantage over the r55600g for average fps this tells us that the r55600g won't always lead the i3 and 10 30 g5 pairing that is although the ddr4 version you should ignore in rocket league the gt 1030 gddr5 and the i3 10 100 outperform the r55600g by about 60 68 here forming a massive rift that we didn't see in some of the other games we'll need to analyze the hardware activity to better understand why this happens we retested and found the same results so the next thing we did was pair a gt 1030 with the r5 5600g and then disable its igp to find the root cause of this difference it was the gpu the gt 1030 and the r55600g which is a pairing that you shouldn't do it doesn't really make sense financially but that propelled to 136 fps average that's a spike of 65 from the vega gpu only in this instance the amd apu is weaker than a cheap cpu and d gpu assuming you can get them both but better than the 11th gen igps by a wide margin running hardware info logging during the same rocket league gameplay helps explain what's going on you can see the cpu utilization is only sitting around ten percent here a lot of people think this is a good thing because they think it means they have more cpu threat availability for other tasks in fact utilization this low just means we have wasted resources incapable of serving a benefit for their primary current task the radeon gpu is fully loaded here and is clearly the bottleneck something has to be a bottleneck in every system so that's normal but it's balancing the two parts as close together as possible that helps get that better performance and in this instance the gpu is so heavily bound that we're not getting a lot of benefit out of the cpu minecraft isn't much of a benchmark but it and games like it are a great fit for these types of builds the i3 10 100 and gt 1030 do end up ahead running at 115 fps average so the r5 3600g is 100 fps average for a total of 14.6 advantaged the iris xe g7 from the intel nook the new one is next with the uhd 750 on the 11 600k down at 75 fps average that's definitely playable if you want to stop gap while you're waiting for a gpu and you already want this cpu but if you're not planning to use this thing other than for a temporary solution amd's igp holds a significant 53 advantage and obviously going with the dgpu kind of makes both of these irrelevant but that's a fantasy land at this point because they're hard to get the gt 1030 is actually struggling to fight with amd's apu here and that's the part that's a little bit different from some of the other ones we've looked at in the past transitioning briefly to cpu only production benchmarks will be our next set of charts in blender all core rendering the amd r55600g required 25 minutes to complete which has it about on par with an amdr six core 12 thread part the i5 11 600k outperformed the 5600g by a few minutes with the r5 3600x requiring 11 percent less time to render than the 5600g adobe premiere aggregate scoring has the r5 5600g at 695 points allowing the 5600x an overall performance lead of about 6.2 percent and cpu bound tasks like rendering and scrubbing keep in mind that this is tested with the same rtx 3080 in all configurations on the same ram so we're looking at cpu differences here the 5600g is more similar to the 3600 or the 3700x than to the modern 5600x in performance intel's 10 700k leads at 740 points roughly tied with the 5600x with its 11 600k closer to the 5600g the 5600g is reasonably close to 5600x if you can't find one in stock but then the 3600 isn't much different either the cheaper of these two wins if you only need a cpu in chromium code compile the r55600g required 147 minutes an hour benchmark versus the 5600x is 131 minutes that's back to the 11 reduction time required that we saw in blender the 3600 takes about six and a half percent less time with the 11 600k leading more significantly at a 16 reduction the 5600g leads the 11400 by a similar 16 reduction we have other production benchmarks complete but they're all about the same as these that includes photoshop 7-zip handbrake and others but the pattern persists moving back to games we'll look at how the 5600g does when all of the cpus are tested and paired with the same hardware including the gpu so no igp's allowed the 5600g really isn't meant to be used this way but if you were to buy one now as maybe a stop gap and add a gpu later this gives you a better idea for the maximum that the cpu will allow out of the gpu in rainbow six siege at 1080p the r55600g matched with the rtx 3080 ends up at 393 fps average with lows slightly out of proportion versus the immediate r7 3700x and i5 11400 neighbors but overall they're similar the r55600x leads the 5600g by 16 percent in this one the i5 11 400 and 10 600k are both roughly six percent ahead the r5 3600 allows the 5600g a slight lead but if you can find a 3600 for significantly cheaper than a 5600g and you don't need its igp you'd get mostly the same performance the 3600 being older and without an igp at all does have different disadvantages though at 1440p the amd cpu slam into a wall of about 340 fps average with the nvidia gpu where we see everything from the 5600x to the 5950x with an average fps error due to a bottleneck the r55600g is able to catch up here where the gpu bind reduces the 5600x's advantage to 5 that's the nature of a gpu bind the cpu obviously doesn't matter as much cyberpunk is of course more relevant than ever thanks to tesla's use of it on stage although we don't have a test the model s plaid listed in this benchmark charge we can at least show the 5600g the 5600g ran at 132fps average with those proportional to that that places it ahead of the 3700x by about seven and a half percent with the 11400 leading the 5600g by 6.7 percent and the 5600x leading the 5600 ge by 16.5 that's similar to what we saw in rainbow six at 1080p in red that too the 5600g ran at 147 fps average with lows at 79 and 68 fps that allows the 5600x a lead in all three metrics and about 11 on average that has the 5600g outdone by the 11400 but it's out doing the r5 3600 and the r7 3700x marginally f1 2020 runs a comically high frame rate when cpu bound much like in rainbow six and has the 5600g at 254 fps average with lows around 100 fps at the worst for the 0.1 percent this is obviously completely playable in terms of a relative comparison the 5600x benefits from a lead of 26 more noteworthy than some of these other games while the 10600k ends up closer to parity with the 5600g the 11400 just for reference of something kind of on the cheaper end for intel is also about equal to the 5600g right now although it's a little long on the tooth gta 5 is useful for understanding how cpus treat an older style build of game especially dx11 with limited use beyond four threads gta 5 is definitely that game the r55600g ran at 115 fps average establishing a 17.8 percent advantage for the 5600 x and about the same for the 11 600k the 115 fps average result is also near the intel i5 10 600k stock result power consumption is up now this is tested at the eps 12 volts cables so you're looking at the numbers before the vrm efficiency losses but after the wall that means we don't have any measurement of the gpu power consumption for this set of tests but we have a special set of power consumption tests we'll look at next this is with the rtx 3080 running so it's entirely cpu bound in a blender cpu only workload the r55600g pulled about 72 watts in the b550 pro board that's close to the 67 watts we observed in the x570 master since the motherboard had to change by necessity to support the apu we're not fully like for like between the 5600x and the jeep but we can call these functionally the same the 11400 68 watts for comparison and the 3600 was closer to 80 watts remember that the igp again isn't doing much of anything here in cinebench r20 tested within tau for intel so showing higher power consumption where applicable we see the 5600g at 77 watts for the uh comparison of 66 with the 5600 x this was only a 5 watt or so increase over blender for the 5600g and it was repeatable but it's also a different application and it's not that crazy of a difference so this all makes sense for single core rendering and cinebench r20 the 5600g pulled about 16 watts while the 5600 x was closer to 22 to 23 watts power consumption in a fully cpu constrained single core scenario was exceptionally low for the 5600g here we mixed in a new one-off test for the apus as well in this one we're measuring mixed workload power consumption with gaming this is rather than using the cpu targeted power draw with a d gpu previously the r55600g pulled between 32 and 40 watts at the eps 12 volt cables that's when in a workload combining both cpu and gpu utilization on the same chip of course and in the more gpu bound conditions like rocket league or gta at 1440 we saw lower or slightly lower power consumption than in the more cpu bound conditions because none of these are 100 workloads on the cpu given that the igp is doing work here we don't see power consumption as high as the previous cpu only charts the gpu appears to be the more limiting of the two components and again something has to limit you eventually it just happens to be the igp in this coupling of the two just as some final validation we'll look at the igp frequency to check whether the software reads it accurately and whether everything is working as it should and this 5600g spec list the gpu clock at 1900 megahertz and looking at our testing during some rocket league gameplay we landed at exactly 1900. it didn't deviate at all at least according to the software and it stayed at flat 1900 whenever under load so that's it for the rfi 5600g ap review if you're looking at buying this thing either in the future first of all check back but either in the future is a standalone solution or an oem pre-built right now again you can find them on hp for example pretty easily at least we were able to then the 5600g is a relatively capable cpu but it's not quite as powerful as the 5600x and a lot of the cpu only tasks like in things such as blender premiere where we're testing for cpu performance and ignoring the presence of the apu the igp in those tasks we end up with a cpu that's roughly in the range of say an r5 3600 sometimes the 10 600k depending on what application you're looking at so it is definitely not a drop in replacement for a 5600x runs a little bit slower maybe that'll change in the future but as it exists now that's where it lands and the cpu isn't really a thing that's going to change with drivers zen 3's fairly mature at this point so it's the bios and the frequencies are running at amd spec so we really don't suspect the cpu performance will move much at all and so you'll end up where if you just want a cpu and you want a six core 12 thread one and you can find a 5600x you should just probably just buy that instead but if you need the igp component that's where it gets more interesting so as a combined unit you end up with performance roughly in the range in some games of a 10 100 plus a gt 1030 gddr5 not ddr4 version uh or sometimes behind it and it does depend on the game the gpu as we found in the testing today the cus in here from vega are definitely the weakest point of it the cpu does well and it's the igp that ends up bottlenecking if you bottleneck in gaming there are some breakouts from that and extremely cpu bound games for the most part it's an igp limitation so then the apus end up being something that you can actually use these days to play games at reasonable settings it's once you start getting into higher end stuff we call it aaa typically where they'll start to struggle and you're going to have a hard time running graphic settings that are good looking in games like say red dead 2 or cyberpunk 2077 i'll be everything struggles with that game but you'll have a little more trouble running the the higher quality games with higher quality graphics and that's the nature of something that is both a cpu and a gpu in this package size can't expect the world from it but these are far better than they used to be and it's something you could actually use to play games now whether or not it makes sense it's going to depend on the price we buy it with an oem system well that's we can't really judge that because those parts are all completely variable and there's at least seven eight other components in there so you'll need to evaluate that system by system as a standalone part it's not worth the scalper prices do not pay that money for it you'd be better off getting an intel or an amd cpu standalone or an intel one if you need the igp as a stop gap but the igp is much worse than this or you'd be better off waiting for this to launch the diy or buying the pre-built that's another option too so that's it for this one thanks for watching as always subscribe for more check back for follow-ups on this there's a lot of interesting stuff we can do with apus we don't have a really firm conclusion on this as a diy part right now just because you can't officially buy it that way so we'll reevaluate as amd perhaps for the diy launch but as always check back for more you can go to store.gamersnexus.net if you'd like to grab some of our shirts like these pc shortage t-shirts or you can go to patreon.comgamersnexus to get behind the scenes videos thanks for watching we'll see you all next time

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Length: 26min 35sec (1595 seconds)

Published: Fri Jun 18 2021