here we are again talking about Allen wake 2 sales and look what I want to do in this video I want to express a little bit more frustration a little bit more anger try to collectively you know gather all my thoughts and say it to you guys but I will also say unless there's another like major development maybe when they like announce a milestone of x amount of units sold then I'll talk about it I'll do another video but I feel like I've probably like run my course on this conversation probably upset people I've probably made people say Alex please stop so this will probably be the last video that I specifically talk about alen wake 2 sales again if anything happens good news or bad news and I God I hope it's not bad news but I'll obviously be covering that so what I want to do here is look at another very aggravating Tweet now look the last time we talked about this we looked at a different tweet that talked about basically the impact Allen wake has had sales-wise and it was pretty confusing because the guy was is like well it doesn't track digital it's only physical and Allan Wake didn't sell physically so you'd imagine the report would be zero Alan Wake 2 sold zero copies according to his report it it was kind of confusing I'll give you that it was kind of confusing this one honestly kind of straightforward into the point and also very very aggravating so this comes from Matt and he says got a few questions on Allen wake 2's performance according to ciran and I hope that's how you say it player engagement tracker Allen wake ranked 147th in November an active user count on Xbox and 113 on PS5 so look we talked I think it was uh 350 or so right the like the last one we talked about and I had said all right look if you're not in the top 10 I can live with that Alan Wake 2 could probably live with that you're not in the top 10 sales of October whatever the game came out at the very end of October maybe a bounce back in November all right well what if you're not in the top 50 sales what if you're not in the top 100 sales what if you're not in the top 200 Sales what if you're not in the freaking top 350 now again depending on how you like analyze that last report we talked about you could probably reach a different outcome this one very difficult to reach a different outcome now it's not sales I guess that's your loophole that's your way out of this right that's your it's not a loop it's a spiral but what I would say is again I am incredibly upset and I I will be like genuinely honest now there's a few things I want to say in this video number number one and I want to kind of make this clear just to kind of combat where it's like well Alex why would you why do you care like why do I care so much I'll like it's simply for the reason that I love this game I'm not making it up I think you can clearly tell that from all the videos I've done Allan Wake going back uh years maybe maybe I don't know if I've covered it full on years I think maybe I have I don't know I really love this game it's my game of the year I want to see more games not just not just do I want to see an allen wake 3 but I just want more games that are like this more games that are different more games that like you know have a freaking musical in the middle of the game like I just want different experiences and to where I'm coming from is they cost so much to make I'm fully aware of that there's a huge risk involved I'm aware of that and really they don't get made all that often even now the gaming industry has largely clamped the idea that I you can't do this it costs way too oh you want to make a game for $110 million nope because it's not an established game it's not one of the 5,000 open world you know kind of grindfest things not saying there's anything there's plenty of open world games I love we can all live in like a you know world together but my point is just I want them to try different things and Allan Wake 2 is clearly trying something different and it gets this kind of response um and here's another thing it's not us like I always want to make the joke and people did make the joke with like say the PlayStation vaita right like you're the reason I've said this before too you're the reason Reon the PlayStation vaita failed it's a joke because it it's kind of true but it's also really not true because the circle that we're in is not really the circle that we should be talking to right me complaining about Allen wake 2 sales to you I like doing it and I think there's some entertainment to be had here I think generally my audience likes it and the people that watch this video like it but we're not really the ones that need to hear this you know what I like why Allen wake 2 is not in the top hundred games played on Xbox or Playstation is because it's not the 30,000 of the Allen wake fans that are online and I mean that's that's not aggressive that's not mean I don't mean in any negative way that's the hardcore facts that is the when you have videos of like the lore the story and you know a friend hidden machine right I had on the channel he's a great guy and does Great Stuff I I use him for a specific example right his video explaining like the lore say of Alan Wake may actually or Alan Wake 2 may get more views than it actually had sales and like that is ridiculous to actually say out loud but it's true because there's a group that watches and there's a group that plays and I you know at the end of the day your money is your money don't ever let me tell you what to do with it don't ever let anybody else tell you what to do you spend your money how you're going to spend it okay I believe that's very very powerful and hey another thing that we can segue into is well did people actually do that with Alan Wake now here's why I've had my controversial disagreements with a lot of people and I see this primarily on Twitter I think I'm able to express myself obviously longer more words like in videos than I can on Twitter there's two arguments as to why alen wake 2 has failed and again I'm labeling it and I don't really know how else you can do it even though remedy is not that big they're not the biggest Studio even though Allen wake 2 is not the most expensive game this game is not cracking any this game is still not sold a million units you want to know why I know because they didn't say it if it's sold the million they would have done like a tweet to say hey thanks to everybody for 1 million and and I feel terrible about that but I know that in my heart they have not done that I know it because we have these kind of stories now maybe the last one was more like nitpicky maybe that was wrong this one though it's not sales but if you can't get in the top 100 games and look November had cod had Persona 5 tactica had like a dragon the man who erased his name those are like the three big games of and and those are PlayStation and Xbox right let's like being fair about it right well don't you think Allan Wake would stand some sort of chance it came out the last couple days of October so everybody you imagine is even if you bought it day one you probably didn't beat it until November 1st November 2nd November 3rd it should show up it should show up in this report so the fact that Allan Wake can't beat 116 other games on PlayStation whatever it was on Xbox the fact that it's that low tells me yeah this is not sales but it's engagement of people playing it which literally means you have to buy it you have to buy it in order to engage with it correct like you know playing the game so I would call it again like this is a crisis this is a really bad thing where the game is flat out not selling all right let me segue myself into why well okay there's two reasons that I have seen and let's talk about again the physical sales and I I mean this honestly and I've said this before but again this being probably the last time I talk about it for a little bit I want to say it again I believe the people that have said they've waited for physical I have no joke and I'm not the biggest Alan Wake Creator but I would say I'm one of them I'm probably one of the top well look there's honestly not that many people that cover Alan Wake you all understand where I'm getting at you know eventually once I finish my freaking thought I would say I see an okay amount of discourse related to Alan Wake that's that's my point okay so I have no joke just like a rough estimate I have probably seen 60 to 80 unique people that have said if the game was physical they would have got it I don't doubt that I'm being dead honest I don't doubt that I think in general when people say things online there's always a degree of you know are they just saying it to say it if you say you're going to get Allen wake only if it was physical that could be a lie the OD you know you don't know for sure but it could be I do genuinely believe the people that I seen on Twitter and on my own YouTube and other people I've seen this on other people's channels too the stuff that I've seen maybe 60 80 you can round to a 100 if you want like let's get it to a nice number a 100 people I said this last time and I'm going to say this straightforward right now and this I do believe is the facts I don't think that would have changed anything I really truly believe that you could say well Alex you know when you go out to the stores for the five people that do that that's kidding look ultimately the game isn't selling period not selling period I don't know the number again we've kind of speculated say it was like one two 300,000 right and maybe it is like I'd like to hope it's close to like 500,000 actually I'd like to hope it's close to a million okay if you do physical and you look at just the Flatout stats of how physical does versus digital this is where we have to bring up that circle thing the circle that we live in right yes Alan seems popular to a certain group of people once you step out of that nobody's heard of the game right you know we've talked about that I do believe the exact same thing is true just in the general discourse with this game now why is that important I believe those 80 to 100 people but my fear and why I believe physical really it has upset people and I think you have a right to not support this game 100% I think if you want to say hey it didn't come out in physical I believe in game preservation which I do I'm a big Advocate I made a freaking Channel on old games just on old games so I understand where you're coming from okay I really do I believe people mean that but the issue is I don't think it's enough people I think this game can't sell period and I'm saying that it's literally a diard fan someone who played Allen wake when it first came out okay so I'm saying I just don't think this game would sell at all if the game came out physically yeah I believe the people that I have seen online would go get the game but how many actual people would do that now you can may even argue like the epic thing right having the Epic exclusivity that might have hurt it again I believe that but I only believe it to an extent if this game has sold say 3 400,000 units you open it up to physical and you open it up to say steam right what does that get you how much will it actually get you now look based on actual stats it's 50/50 in some cases digital or physical sometimes it's 6040 digital sometimes it's like 8020 digital so who's to say Allan Wake 2 isn't one of those games that let's say 80% 80% get it on digital so if you open it up if you open it up to physical and You' sold 400,000 that wouldn't even be 100,000 100,000 is 25% of 400,000 right so you would increase it by 100,000 let's just say as like a nice number if you open it up to steam what would you get the you know again the tough thing is we don't actually know those numbers but where I'm coming from is look if this game needs to sell 2 million units to be successful success make its money three million four Mill whatever the number is if the game's at 400,000 and you open it up to all this stuff I'm not saying it's right or wrong it is actually I would say wrong to have not done physical but you know for the people saying well Alex it failed because of physical no it didn't it didn't it failed because it is what it is that's why it failed and that that is what saddens me I mean that's kind of like the end of this video here long story which is taking forever but long story short this game is not selling because it is true to what it is it is true to the very small minority of people that like this stuff that is why it failed and it's hard to get mad at it when it does something like that this is a game that I respect this is a man in Sam lake and a company and remedy I respect they're doing their own thing the reason I'm sadden by it and the reason why I keep making this video or these kind of videos is because when this stuff happen happens guess what you don't get to make those decisions anymore you don't get to make these games anymore so while I respect all the stuff that they've done the more that their games don't work literally they don't sell they don't make money the more that happens the more that guess what in the future you're not going to have these games at they're not going to happen because how can they and I actually get it why in God's name if you're epic why would you finance a game that say needs I mean I imagine this game needs at least 2 to three million to break even I really find it hard to believe you can make this quality and this big kind of game even though remedy's not huge they're big enough I think you'd probably need two three million you know units sold how could you finance that and get say less than a million how could you make 30% of your money back and call it you lost so much money how can you call that good and and I and I really don't think you can and that's why I think Allen wake 3 would again be in danger just like Allan Wake 2 was 13 years ago and that's why I'm making this video that's why I'm saddened by it because I don't believe physical would have done anything there's the whole woke kind of stuff Alan Wake 2 I do not believe is like that at all I think Allen wake 2 is true to itself Allen is the main character Saga is there because of Allen Alan you know I mean just play the game and you would understand how Allen like doesn't control but how Allen like gets Saga into the fold I don't know just like freaking play the game I don't think it's that I don't think that hurt the game again Alan Wake one and I think this what these people forget right the people that oh it's woke they ruined the game I think they forget Alan Wake 1 never sold either and Alan Wake one just had him I don't think it was because of a idea kind of shift a political shift in the company I don't think it was because of the physical thing I think the physical thing did impact it but it did not impact it enough to say the game failed just because of it again one last time until we get news on the sales hopefully eventually the game failed failed in terms of sales the game failed because it is what it is it's the game that it's supposed to be and there's just not for whatever reason there's not an I mean I get the reason it's convoluted it it's messy it like Kingdom Hearts is extremely messy and convoluted but it's it's a Disney thing right you got all these Disney Worlds it started bigger back in Kingdom Hearts 1 Kingdom Hearts 2 so it it maintained it with all of the different spin-offs that they did and it's still gigantic now so I mean it's it's an example you can a little bit with Allan Wake but you also can't right because Allan Wake just the convoluted and Sam Lake's kind of vision it doesn't jive with most average people the average gamer that buys five games a year they will never buy alen wake 2o and that's okay and like I don't need this game to sell 10 million as I've said time and time again I need this game to sell exactly how much it needs to to be successful that's it that's all I need I don't need to I don't need the game to change its identity I don't need it to become something it's not going forward to try to get sales I need the game to be what it is because that's why we love it but it also does need to be profitable it needs to make money and guess what I would bet so much of my life that this game is not profitable it's just flat and that makes me very sad I really I mean that so let me know what you guys think in the comments make sure you guys are subscrib to the channel Bell icon turned on and I hope to see you all on the next one
