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One thing I noticed about debating on Reddit, Either its a echo chamber or no ones ever going to change their views because of anonymity.

Legacy admissions are bad obviously but since its a privately funded college, Harvard can do whatever it wants.

Legacy admissions is around for 2 reasons, donations and connections. My good friend went to Harvard undergrad and basically knew so many friends whose parents were in high positions of power that he managed to score a internship with that connection. Opportunities like that usually don't come around as easily at UCLA or other UCs.

Harvard knows enabling a plutocracy is something that helps their name brand and its something they will continue to do. Plus a lot of alumni probably donate hoping their child will get in later. Allowing 30% of its incoming students to be legacy probably benefits the rest 70% immensely. Its pretty much a win win win for Harvard to keep doing it.

👍︎︎ 29 👤︎︎ u/canu44 📅︎︎ Oct 29 2018 🗫︎ replies

Hasan Minhaj has nailed it better than I ever could. At worst Harvard will be made to retool their admissions criteria, but just like Blum's failure in Fisher, race as a part of admissions criteria will be upheld by the Supreme Court.

👍︎︎ 44 👤︎︎ u/RealDexterJettster 📅︎︎ Oct 29 2018 🗫︎ replies

Hey folks,

I'm watching this episode right now!!! It's awesome.Prior to watching this, I didn't care for Hasan Minhaj (MH). After watching this, he's 100% right on with all this. He's smart, insightful, and he cares about society. All of our desi comedians, like Hari K., Aziz A., etc. are doing well for all people.

I agree 100% with HA about Ed Blum's lawsuit against Harvard. We're both against it, and it's a red herring to divert us from something much more nefarious: The 33% of incoming Harvard students who are legacy admissions. Of course, about 80% of them are white rich folks.

This Ed Blum is seriously trying to pit the African Americans and Latinos from the South and Asian Americans.

Way to go, Hasan Bhayya.

👍︎︎ 58 👤︎︎ u/DravidianGodHead 📅︎︎ Oct 28 2018 🗫︎ replies

Had plenty of funny bits, but his over all argument was unconvincing. Kind of a running ad hominem, this episode tbh.

👍︎︎ 18 👤︎︎ u/TEXzLIB 📅︎︎ Oct 29 2018 🗫︎ replies

I think everyone should watch this show. It's pretty damn informative, and I really like the visuals. I think his commentary and delivery would be well liked by millenials. ABCDs that are against AA need to realize that the black and brown people are not the ones taking the spots that Asians want; legacy admits are essentially AA for rich white people. Why won't they let in more Asians? Because the point of going to Harvard is to meet other rich white people! They don't want you there. America is not a meritocracy; it's a stupid children's tale told to you so can accept the world as it is. Plus, there are plenty of other 'rich people' schools that you can go to and have connections at. Diversity as a goal is not inherently bad however. AA is course a band aid fix; but getting universal education is basically impossible.

👍︎︎ 22 👤︎︎ u/jupiter_love 📅︎︎ Oct 29 2018 🗫︎ replies

Unpopular opinion: Although Hasan Minhaj has a good personality, he isn't much of a stand-up .

👍︎︎ 24 👤︎︎ u/horusporcus 📅︎︎ Oct 29 2018 🗫︎ replies

Love the man, dissapointed in the show. It's just not that great

👍︎︎ 6 👤︎︎ u/Cd206 📅︎︎ Oct 29 2018 🗫︎ replies

I thought it was weak and whack. I thought from the promos he wasn't trying to have a very politically affiliated show and more about every day topics that don't get discussed, but this wasn't the case. It seems that he has the the exact formula that almost every conservative/liberal pundit has to try and present their case.

1) Make the opposing side guilty of going against their interests

2) vilify members of the movement by smearing them

3) Make the problems seem smaller than they are

4) BUT WHAT ABOUT ....(Insert other problem)

5) Acknowledge that both sides have problems, but this current movement is the way bigger problem, and should be stopped

6) Call out their Patriotism

He largely overlook problems that asians faced, and kind of tries to make it seem like that it really wasn't a problem. His ending kind of made me go well that was dumb as hell.

So if you are a liberal/democrat, you may enjoy his show since there is an obvious bias towards that ideology. If you are a moderate/conservative, keep searching for new shows to watch.

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Now, affirmative action as we know it is about to die. And guess what, Asian Americans, we could be the ones who killed it, and it is going down in federal court right now. In America, affirmative action began in 1961 as a government initiative to offer opportunities to historically excluded groups. It's obvious why we needed it back then. Just look at the NBA in the 1950s. Really? You're telling me these are the world champions. These were the best basketball players in the world. What is this guy's signature move? Tax evasion? Nowadays, people hear affirmative action and often think, "Oh, he got that job because he's black. She got that job because she's Hispanic. He got that job because he hates blacks and Hispanics." Now, for the past 50 years, affirmative action has been a fierce debate between black and white America, but not anymore. Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders are part of the next big fight over affirmative action. A group of Asian-American students suing Harvard University accusing the school of unfairly giving preference to other racial minorities. Now, Asians. And I am lumping all of us together right now, okay? I find it hilarious that this is the hill we're willing to die on. Our entire lives, we get shat on. "Oh, you guys have small dicks. You're bad drivers. You're the color of poop. You smell like curry and kimchi." Nothing! We say nothing! The moment we can't get in to Harvard, we're like, "I'll see you in court, motherfucker." It's full on Tupac "Hit 'Em Up," Walter White to Heisenberg, Tony Montana in <i></i>Scarface. Also, Asians, just so you know, we are only 5.8% of the population. But last year, we were 22.2% of Harvard's admitted class. We are straight dunking on every other minority group, but in classic Asian parent fashion, we're like, "22%? Why not 100%?" This lawsuit is in federal court now, and it won't surprise you to know that the Trump Administration loves this case. They have publicly sided with the plaintiffs, and the Department of Justice has opened up an investigation into Harvard's admissions process. But don't worry, the DOJ is giving Harvard the type of thorough investigation they would never give victims of sexual assault. Now this lawsuit is big in the Asian Community, specifically with an organization called The Asian-American Coalition for Education or AACE. Now, the AACE's president is a man named Yukong Zhao. And for him, this lawsuit is a full-on civil rights movement. Our children, in order to pursue the American dream, they have to hide their racial identity. Asian Americans are ready, united, fight this battle. We strongly urge the US Supreme Court to issue a total ban of racial discrimination in college admissions. If you can't tell, Yukong Zhao is a hardcore tiger dad who has been priming his kids for academic greatness. He is basically Chinese Joe Jackson. This is true! In 2013, before his son ever even applied to college, Yukong Zhao wrote a book called The Chinese Secrets for Success: Five Inspiring Confucian Values. In his "about the author" section, he actually brags about how smart his kids are. Because you know that old Confucian saying, "Even when completely unrelated, show off child's GPA." [laughs] But here's the thing, it didn't help. When Yukong's son applied to three Ivy League schools, he got Dikembe Mutombo'd by all of them. So the AACE sent a letter to the Department of Education insinuating that those three schools retaliated against Zhao's son because of his crusade against affirmative action. Now, I'm sorry Yukong Zhao, but no one has a hit job on you. And if you think I'm being mean, just check out my favorite review for his book, which describes it as, "It's okay." This Chinese father wrote a book and then got Chinese fathered. But, Hasan. You're just focusing on pissed off Chinese uncles. Are there any Indian uncles speaking out? Oh, you better fucking believe it. Meet Dr. Ajay Kothari. I'm representing here the American Society of Indian-American Engineers. And I've been a US citizen for 30 years. I am being treated like a foreigner. I'm not a foreigner, I'm an American. I came here many years ago, of course, with $6 in my pocket. Really, $6. At that time, it was a lot of money. [laughs] No, it wasn't, Indian Oliver Stone! No, it wasn't. Every immigrant uncle has some insane story about how they came to America with an inexplicably small amount of money. "I came here with two bucks." "No, I came here with four bucks." $6 is and never was a lot of money. Who goes to any country and is like, "Hmm, $6, that seems like enough to start a new life"? But you know, maybe Dr. Kothari was right. Maybe it was a lot of money back then. Hey, how much was $6 worth in 1982? Oh, $15.88. That's the three-entree meal at Panda Express. Also, are you sure about six bucks? 'Cause I'm hearing conflicting reports. I came here many years ago [laughs] with $8 in my pocket. Oh! So it's $8 now. Okay. Now, don't laugh at Dr. Kothari. Because he is the only one fighting for the real issues in the Asian community. National spelling bees do occur. and the Asian Americans have been, like, the top. But when the media, Hollywood, made a movie about the spelling bee called <i></i>Akeelah the Bee, it was not about Asian Americans. It was about somebody else. Why? Why? Why... was Akeelah the Bee not about an Indian kid? Why are they black-washing Asian movies? First of all, it's called Akeelah and the Bee, not Akeelah the Bee. He's making it sound like there's a bumblebee named Akeelah. You know, Akeelah the bee, Lady the tramp, Nemo the fish. Now, make no mistake, I am not ripping on an Indian uncle's accent. I am ripping on uncles in our own community who lack self-awareness and propagate anti-black an anti-brown rhetoric just so Asians can get ahead. Now, as insane as all of this is, this story only gets weirder. Because Akeelah the Bee, Chinese Joe Jackson and the rest of the AACE aren't actually the group that's suing Harvard. [man]The group called Students for Fair Admissions is accusing elite colleges of discriminating against Asian-American and white students. The group's president Edward Blum writes that "racial preferences punish better qualified individuals and pit Americans against one and other." Obviously, Ed Blum isn't an Asian student, but he definitely looks like the type of guy who still uses the word "Oriental." So, Students for Fair Admission, led by Ed Blum, is the group that is actually suing Harvard, and he is more than happy to tell us why he's suing. Harvard has, we believe, a hard specific quota. It's racial discrimination, and its a quota. How is it that this could not be a quota? Here's why Ed Blum has such a huge quota boner. Back in the 1970s, UC Davis had a quota of spots reserved for black applicants, but when a white guy named Allan Bakke got rejected from the medical school, he sued UC Davis claiming that he was rejected because of the quota for black students. Allan Bakke took his case to the Supreme Court and won making racial quotas unconstitutional, and it's good that he won. No one should be admitted to a school purely based on their race. Also, racial quotas are weird. Like, if a school says, "We need 32 black people." Your first response should be, "For what?" Now, the Supreme Court also ruled that schools can still be racially conscious in admissions. That's the difference between saying, "Hey, I should have more diverse friends" versus "I need two more black friends." One of these is affirmative action. The other is the plot o Get Out. So, quota systems are unconstitutional. However, the Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld that race can be used as one factor among many factors in the holistic review of an applicant. I know holistic review sounds like it involves lavender oil and a Reiki healer named Celeste. But it is actually Harvard claims it's admitting students. Ed Blum isn't helping Asian kids because he's trying to put together a K-pop band. He's been trying to end affirmative action for years by suing schools. This is true, for each school that he wants to sue, he sets up a website where students can submit themselves to be plaintiffs. So, now that he's looking for Asian kids to help end affirmative action, all of his websites have pensive-looking Asian kids on them. What did the photographer tell this kid? "Listen to me, Jeremy. Why don't you pose like your dad is grading your Kumon homework? There it is! That's the look I'm going for. Just give me that fear!" Ed Blum is suing Harvard because the last time he tried to end affirmative action, he failed. You guys remember Becky with the bad grades. [man] Abigail Fisher brought the case in 2008. She sued UT Austin after the school rejected her, she claims, in favor of minority applicants with lower grades and test scores. Now, Abigail Fisher did not file her lawsuit out of the blue. She was handpicked by conservative activist Edward Blum. Oh, he didn't just handpick her, he also bankrolled her legal fees and helped with PR. A federal lawsuit was filed yesterday by a Houston-area high school student who had been unfairly rejected from the University of Texas because she was the wrong color. Okay, so what he's saying in this ISIS recruitment video is... [laughs] Abigail Fisher lost her spot because some black student took her spot. He's making college admissions seem like they have a one-in, one-out policy like they're nightclubs. And I've always hated nightclubs because they have a quota system. You go in there, they're like, "Oh, too many dicks, not enough chicks. Get out of here, bro." I wish a nightclub was like, "Hey, what's your socio-economic background? What are your hobbies? Do you have a short poem I could read?" That's holistic review, and that's what colleges are trying to do. But Ed Blum's only mission is to end affirmative action, even if that means leaving out inconvenient details like he did for the Abigail Fisher case. When Abigail Fisher applied to UT Austin, the state of Texas had this policy. Any graduating senior in the top 10% of their class automatically got into the UT school system. But Abigail Fisher didn't make the cut because she was in the top 12% I'm guessing math wasn't her best subject. So, that put her up for holistic review. Now it's true. there were other students who got in with lower grades and scores than Abigail Fisher, but according to ProPublica, only five of those students were black or Latino. 42 were white... and here's the kicker. 168 black and Latino students with grades as good or better than Fisher also didn't get in that year. And you know what they did? They moved on with their fucking lives. Ed Blum claimed that race was the reason Abigail Fisher didn't get in. That's not true. He left out inconvenient details and you could argue that he's doing the same thing with the Harvard case. Remember Ed Blum's hard-on for quotas? Harvard has, we believe, a hard specific quota. They seem, year after year, never to admit more than 17% of incoming freshman. Yet, the number of Asians applying to Harvard over the last 15 years has doubled. Yet, year after year after year, it's the same percentage. Okay, Harvard has a hard specific quota that never seems to break 17% Asian. So, we found an expert  to make sure that number was right. In 1992, 19% of Harvard's incoming freshmen were Asian. So, it's 19% now, okay. Let's get another expert. In 1992, 15% of Harvard's incoming freshman class was Asian. Jesus, Ed. For someone representing Asians, you are really bad at math. You should really take Kumon classes with Jeremy. We actually contacted Harvard, and they gave us the official numbers. Over the last two decades, the trend line shows that the percentage of Asians in Harvard's incoming class has been going up. Maybe it's not as high as you would like, but it is going up, and if you don't get into Harvard, maybe it's because getting into Harvard is insanely hard, and it's only getting harder. -This isn't UC Santa Cruz, man. -[audience jeers] Is that where you guys draw the line? UC Santa Cruz? Their mascot is the banana slugs, you guys. You need $80 and a pulse to get into UC Santa Cruz. Come on! What Ed Blum is doing, recruiting plaintiffs, bankrolling their cases, attacking the law through the courts, it sounds shitty, but it's not illegal. It's like going to a Macklemore concert. I mean, you can do it, but everyone's gonna be like, "Why?" What are you getting out of this? Civil rights leaders used this exact same tactic to win historic cases, but now Ed Blum is using the civil rights playbook to dismantle civil rights policies. MLK once said, "I have a dream," and Ed Blum was like, "Technically, nightmares are dreams." I don't think Ed Blum cares about Asians getting justice at all. I believe he's using us. In his head, he lost Abigail Fisher case because he miscast his lead. Abigail Fisher was his Eric Bana in <i></i>The Hulk, and now he's looking for his Mark Ruffalo, which is Asian kids. Okay? By the way, Harvard is far from perfect in all of this. Harvard was forced to hand over admissions data for the lawsuit, and Ed Blum claims that the data shows that Harvard ranks Asians lower on subjective measures, like personality traits. Harvard denies it, but if the court finds that there is bias, then fuck Harvard. And not just for this, fuck them for their creepy eugenics phase. Fuck them for Ted Kaczynski and Ted Cruz and Facebook. And Dr. Oz and Steve Bannon and Eliot Spitzer and Jared Kushner and Bill O'Reilly and Henry Kissinger, you get the point. So, let's take all of those factors into consideration and give Harvard a big holistic fuck you, okay? And I'm not just saying that 'cause I didn't get in. [laughs] Dismantling affirmative action won't get rid of implicit bias or automatically make Harvard more fair. If you really want to make Harvard more fair, you have to dismantle this. There is this phenomenon of white affirmative action, and it's called legacy admissions in universities. They give preference to alumni children who also make up a lot of elite schools-- 10 to 20% of the population. -That's an affirmative action. -Right, for the wealthy. Legacy students take up a significant number at the Ivies. Look at the chart. If these Asian parents really cared about the numbers and fairness, they would be going after legacy admissions first. Not attacking affirmative action. Just listen to Swan Lee, a prominent member of the AACE. Why don't we just abandon racial consideration and give everybody a fair chance? When affirmative action was established in the 1960s, that was a time it was necessary because that's was the time when the racial segregation was coming to an end. And the communities were very segregated. But half a century later, with all the things that the government and people have been helped, we don't have that kind of drastic difference between communities anymore. She's basically saying, "Let's get rid of affirmative action, because racism isn't as bad as it used to be." And you hear that a lot with racism. "Hey, be grateful. It's not as bad as it used to be." You wouldn't tolerate that from Wi-Fi. If you called Comcast and you were like, "Hey, my internet's really slow right now," and if they said, "Hey, it's not as bad as it used to be. Remember dial-up?" You would kill that person. That's why I think this lawsuit against Harvard is bullshit. Is this really about civil rights or about your kid getting into Harvard? Because I've been in prep classes where I've been told not to check my race. Hey, if you're Asian don't check the box, it's gonna hurt you. -You know what I'm talking about? -[man] Yes. The penalty, right? When I was in high school, I bought into that. I thought I wasn't gonna get in to Stanford because some black kid was gonna take my spot. But I didn't get into Stanford because I was dumb. I got a 1310 on the SAT. It was never gonna happen. Now, I know there's white people here. They're like, "1310, that's pretty good." [laughs] And every Indian and Asian person is like, "1310... you are a moron." No wonder you became a stand-up comedian. Now, this entire affirmative action issue is really a debate on how we define merit, and there are two camps. Are you just your GPA and your SAT score? Or do a myriad of factors determine who you are? I fall in that camp. I support affirmative action and the majority of Asian Americans do, too. I get that affirmative action is an imperfect system. Does the software need updating? Of course. But if they win this case, it won't just affect Harvard. It could set a precedent that affects every single publicly-funded university. We are talking about millions of students. If you want to go somewhere with no affirmative action, there are schools where they only look at test scores. Just go to Asian Paradise, Caltech. They've basically dumped Fremont, California, and Edison, New Jersey into one school and they were like, "Go hang out with your cousins." [laughs] That's Caltech. In 2010, Caltech had 967 students. Do you know how many black students they had? Nine. There are more black people in the Wu-Tang Clan. And it hasn't gotten better. In 2016, Caltech had a whopping 14 black students. Yay, progress. So I'm asking my community, is this case worth it? Look, I'm not saying you shouldn't sue to right a wrong. There was another moment in history over 40 years ago in San Francisco when Asian Americans felt like they were being denied educational opportunities. Asian immigrants were struggling in school because they couldn't speak English, and their schools weren't helping them. So they filed a class action lawsuit that went all the way to the Supreme Court. [man]The 1974 court decision called Lau v. Nichols, that court case became the wellspring for almost every bilingual school program in America. [woman]With the help of groups such as Chinese for Affirmative Action, students can successfully be multilingual and multicultural. America has English as a second language because of Chinese for Affirmative Action. It was a landmark decision that made education more accessible for everyone. Now that is a lawsuit. If the plaintiffs hadn't won that case, the students wouldn't have been able to learn. But if the plaintiffs don't win the Harvard case, the students have to live with the cold, harsh reality that they might have to go to the UC Santa Cruz of the Ivies... Cornell. Yuck. This case against Harvard will likely make it to the Supreme Court and with Kavanaugh giving conservatives a majority on the bench, the chances of affirmative action getting struck down are very high. Ed Blum is within striking distance of his goal because we got played. And for those in the Asian community who keep insisting, "We just want equality! We're American citizens. Treat us like Americans." Fine. But if you are willing to act like racism isn't a thing, team up with lawyers and then take it to the courts when you don't get your way, you're right. You truly are an American. You just happen to be the worst kind. [audience cheering, applauding]
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Channel: Netflix Is A Joke
Views: 2,117,131
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Keywords: Affirmative Action, Brett Kavanaugh, Supreme Court, Donald Trump, College, Education, Asian American, Immigration, Ed Blum, Conservatives, Allan Bakke, Netflix, Netflix Series, Streaming, Television, Television Online, Comedy, Featured, Comedian, Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj, Hasan Minhaj Comedy, Hasan Minhaj Stand up, Hasan Minhaj, Global News, Politics, Culture, News, Late Night, Late Night Comedy, Late Night Talk, Patriot Act, Daily Show, The Daily Show, Jon Stewart, Trevor Noah
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Length: 21min 47sec (1307 seconds)
Published: Sun Oct 28 2018
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