Adult Children Of Emotionally Immature Parents - With Dr Lindsay C. Gibson

foreign welcome Lindsay I am so happy and honored to have you with us on the podcast today oh it's my great pleasure thank you for having me Monique yeah this is a this is a conversation I I don't take lightly because I know it's the experience of so many people and uh I really I really try to think about okay what are some of the questions that will be most helpful to the audience and um so just to start I'm where I'm talking with psychologist um Dr Lindsay G Gibson author of adult children of emotionally immature parents and I have to say when I when I saw the title of the book before I read it I thought well she's not going to say anything I don't already know sorry just because you know I grew up like many people with an emotionally immature parent but as I read your book the way that you have talked about it validated uh it just really helped me to understand even on a deeper level uh about the experience and I have recommended your book to so many people usually when someone asks me for a reference for a book that's usually one of the first ones that I will recommend um so yes so I wanted to start with with at the very beginning because although many of us who've had the experience of having an emotionally immature parent we we may not really understand the definition totally you know we may sense that something is kind of missing they don't really get it um they don't understand no empathy no connection would you be able to help us understand by sort of defining for us what what is an emotionally immature parent sure um the first thing I think it's important to realize is that you know our development proceeds along multiple strands at the same time so so our development is not a monolithic thing that starts here and moves steadily through it's like your intellectual development can develop just fine you can be intellectually mature if you're emotionally immature your social skills can develop just fine you can be popular you can be at the center of your social group you can be a leader all right you can have Charisma and you can be emotionally immature so to think about oh and also you could be a a success you could be a success in business you could be a success in Academia whatever it is that that is your skill set for an occupation could also have developed along very mature lines so you get like intellectual social and and career development that look completely adult and then at home or in their Intimate Relationships you can see that their development has been arrested it's stopped at a certain point and they don't have the same emotional maturity as a person whose lines of development were in sync and continued into adulthood so that's a confusing thing that I wanted to kind of specify first Monique because people will say well my you know my dad owns his own company or my mom is you know like she's in at the head of the you know PTA or those or whatever social group it is everyone thinks she's the most wonderful person ever and so this is not Computing to think of them as emotionally immature but when you get that idea that you can lose momentum in a certain line of development and have trouble with that and that it won't show up kind of like unless it's behind closed doors in a way like within the family within the relationship otherwise they may look great so to explain what an emotionally immature person is like and what it is that didn't keep up in that strand of their development we'd first want to realize that they're very egocentric they're self-preoccupied their um self-absorbed in the sense that all roads lead to Rome like it's it's everything is about me and how it affects me they are at the center of the circle and they have a really hard time imagining that other people have their own subjective experience like that other people have an inner world with thoughts and feelings and that these other people are psychologically real and they're internally motivated that's something that they don't get to they tend to see other people more in terms of how they are in relationship to them whether they're frustrating them or they're gratifying them it's all about me and then you can imagine with that Viewpoint that they become very lacking or that they are very lacking in empathy because in order to have good empathy you've got to be able to put yourself in the shoes of the other person and not only imagine but sort of feel your way into their experience right so when you can't do that because everything is centering in on yourself you don't understand that other people may have certain reactions to you and without that empathy you are unable to repair the little um you know little things that go wrong daily in any kind of relationship instead instead of um apologizing or um letting you know that they understand how they affected you they're far more likely to Double Down restate their position and tell you why you're wrong so even their ability to repair their missteps in relationships uh is really impaired and then we have their trouble with self-reflection uh they just don't look at themselves as a factor in in the equation of relationships so if something goes wrong between them and another person they're not likely to say to themselves gee you know I I wonder if it was something that I did like did I have a part in this was is there something I'm not aware of that I'm doing they would never ask themselves that question because they tend to be pretty on the surface so if it looks like that to them that's what it is and also that affects their ability to change because if you don't self-reflect there's no basis for you to initiate a process of changing your behavior or your thoughts or your ideas and then finally um their relationship to reality is not great um and what I mean by that is that they tend to believe that reality is what they feel it is in other words if you tell me that you don't want me to come in your house without knocking first and I feel rejected because I'm your mother and I always walk in your house whenever I want to and I feel like I'm being rejected and Abandoned and disrespected well that's what's happening I don't see it that you're making a request or setting a you know reasonable boundary in my reality you have abandoned me and you have rejected me as a person Lock Stock and Barrel so their feelings govern their view of reality now because they have kind of a low stress tolerance this is immaturity in general you know little people have very low stress anybody who's raised a child those those this stage um it lasts a long time but um they also restructure reality in their own mind to make it easier to deal with so they will dismiss deny distort what happened in order to make it into something that's more manageable and face-saving for them so that's a that's a two minute mile a little tour through emotional immaturity but that that's the overview yeah and if I had a checklist I'm like you know um yeah wow so the first thing that I really want to ask your opinion on because I think that this is a question I know I had and that is is this something that they don't have the capacity does that mean that it's something that was not developed so they just don't have it they weren't I don't want to say born with it but it's not there it's just not there they're without it that's a great question um and I don't know if anybody has the answer to these kinds of uh nature nurture um questions because you know we just can't do experiments on it to prove it one way or the other but I suspect that something has gone wrong for them in their early life especially around their connection with a caretaker and I think that the opportunities for learning how to repair that you know in an ongoing relationship we you know we're we're sometimes we're mismatched with each other we don't Jive we don't understand each other but there's something about emotionally immature people that suggest that they are much more likely to have more of those misunderstandings with people and then less of an ability to work it out with them so you know did that occur very early in their childhood very possibly since a lot of those kind of subliminal interpersonal behaviors get laid down at that point does that mean that they can never change no I think that they can change but unfortunately their lack of empathy well I should say there are limited empathy they when they're relaxed and they're you know in good spirits they can be empathetic but their lack of um adequate empathy and their refusal um to entertain uh elections means that they don't have these twin uh engines so to speak that are needed to repair relationships with people and to change their own experiences to question and and their experiences and grow from that so unfortunately there are a couple of characteristics that tend to keep them stuck but once in a while I think um people do get the message finally and then they are willing to self-reflect because the cost of their automatic reflexive Behavior has been so high that now they're facing a loss that they would do anything to try to reverse and that's you know sometimes when you have an estrangement um or your child won't talk to you kind of thing that's when sometimes parents are willing to reach out and say I I don't understand what happened what what can we do about this and you know and to me that says that some people can change but as a group I would say that their personality characteristics kind of work against that most of the time I guess we we may not have like an answer we could have our you know suspicions or ideas and and like you said maybe in some cases but I just think and maybe again this is my own experience from maybe dealing with people like that I tend to feel more comfortable knowing because you know that that they just may not be they just it just isn't there and when you there's almost when you know that it's just not there there's a a way that perhaps you can accept that not saying you like it or you don't want it different but that it's not there therefore you can't expect it to change otherwise you might keep trying and trying and trying and trying and not see any changes um so yeah that's kind of what I think yeah I agree with you because what you're talking about is is getting to a point where you can enter a state of acceptance um that you have thoroughly tried it out yeah giving it your best shot and nothing's happening or it's getting worse um so I think that people do reach a point where they accept for themselves that you know not only did I try in the past but I have tried knowing what their limitations are now um I've tried to reach them the best way I know how but I'm not getting anywhere and to reach a state of acceptance that they probably are not going to change it does give you that freedom to find other ways of relating to them so that you're not beating your head against a brick wall yeah yeah so maybe we could now um we talked a little bit about um what an immature parent can look like and maybe you can talk a bit about when this does happen for children what what kind of responses do children have growing up when they have this kind of response to a parent I know you mentioned like there's a loneliness that that's internal maybe you can talk about kind of what the experience is like for the child and maybe how it can show up later on in life where the child that becomes an adult yeah um that emotional loneliness that you referenced is something that adult children of emotionally immature appearance frequently experience and have no idea where it comes from or what it's about because you know they're like fishing water they grew up in the water that's all they know um it wouldn't occur to them that there was something missing in the water because this is what they've lived with so when you don't have sufficient uh connection with your your caretaker your loved ones you feel the lack of connection just like you would feel the lack of an essential vitamin or mineral in your body okay we're made to need certain things to be in Optimal Health it's the same thing for our emotional and mental health so there's no getting around that if you didn't get it you're going to get a signal from your body your heart your soul whatever you want to call it that will say I'm lonely I'm missing someone or I'm missing something that I that I desperately need in order to feel whole and safe okay so that's the most striking absence that that people can feel and that people identify with immediately when you start talking about they know exactly what you're talking about yeah they've felt like they were on their own another thing though is that they grow up with people who as I mentioned before are just not interested in their inner worlds in fact uh one of the the chapter titles of my second book uh says something like they're hostile to your inner world and the editor said uh Lindsay you sure you want to use that word hostile like maybe we want to say unreceptive or it's like nope that word because it is it is hostile because when you bring out how you're feeling and thinking and if it doesn't mirror them or what they're expecting from you they do get hostile they want you to change they don't want that to be a part of your inner experience because it messes up their sense of security so that hostility towards your inner World tells you that there's something wrong with you there's something wrong with the way you think or there's something wrong with the way you feel or maybe you're just selfish or maybe you're crazy uh and and this kind of distortion of your motive and um you know your essential personality really makes you wonder if it's safe to let other people get to know you at a very deep level because the people that knew you the very best acted like something was wrong with you when you got too close to them uh when you showed too much of yourself oh and Monique I want to mention too I forgot to say this earlier that another characteristic of emotionally mature people is their difficulty with emotional intimacy and what that means is that if if I wanted to get close to you I might tell you something about how I really feel or what I really think to allow you to get to know me okay and then hopefully if you're interested in getting to know me you might reflect on that say something back be reciprocal and then you might share something with me about you okay that you had a similar experience or maybe you understand what I'm talking about because this thing happened to you and now I know you a little bit better and I reflect to you what that experience must have been like for you and then we you know and it gets it gets um to the point where we know each other now at a deeper level and it feels good it feels so good I feel safe um yeah that's energizing it is you yeah totally I'm listening to you and I'm feeling it and it's just the most delicious feeling yeah yeah and we're paid for that yes we are paid for that delicious feeling it's a pleasure to be able to get close to people like that but for some reason the emotionally immature person gets very tense when you try to connect at an emotionally intimate level they don't want to do that there it frightens them they can get very defensive and they can move into a position where they actually you know push you back um to get things at a distance that feels more comfortable to them so if you go through your childhood with someone who is you know who gets uncomfortable when you're too exuberant with your love when you're too affectionate or you uh talk about your your deepest dreams and and thoughts and someone you know begins to to get tense and and sort of move back from you or look at you like there's something the matter with you you learn oh I better not show this to people okay I don't know what I did wrong but this doesn't fly very well and so when they grow up they may approach uh potential mates or good friends with this expectation that if anybody gets to know me really well they're going to ultimately pull back and sort of say I don't know what you're talking about I've never felt that way um I don't I don't know what's the matter with you but um and you feel you would feel judged so people grow up and they're afraid to let other people get to know them at a deep level not socially not even at a friend level but at that deep best friend mate level they can be very nervous about opening themselves up to that and they um they tend to believe that what is going on inside them isn't interesting to other people really shouldn't be brought up unless you absolutely absolutely have to and they expect that other people are going to you know maybe want to listen for two minutes and then that's it um so they will cut their uh communication short in order not to alienate people so there's a whole spectrum of behaviors where in adulthood they're still acting like they're surrounded by impatient disinterested uh reactive emotionally immature people even if they're not and that can really you know uh have an effect uh chilling effect on their ability to have deep relationships yeah as you were speaking about how it affects um you know your relationships later I suddenly was thinking back to the to the child and I was wondering if you could go back into it was something that I was reading in your book about how so how in the relationship with the the immature parent how that child relate how the child has to hold back the things you were just talking about their their real true feelings or their you know their character and and maybe conform to what the um the parent wants or needs can you talk about that about how then your focus becomes more about okay what they need yeah well somebody's you know in order to have a relationship somebody's got to be looking out for what's happening between the two people you know I mean otherwise I guess it would just completely drift apart and a child cannot afford to let that happen so you know in those early baby experiments I don't know if you've ever seen them on YouTube but uh researcher edtronic has a YouTube about the still face experiment have you seen those yes I have and so he proved that the baby is an active participant in trying to re-engage the mother when they're not getting a response that they need and that this back and forth is absolutely essential for the baby to develop a sense of closeness and Trust so even at at the early age of like 11 months or uh you know 14 months these little babies were trying their darndest all their tricks you know to get mommy to re-engage and stop that still face that that flat expression and re-engage with them so children continue to do that and we all continue to do that we all try to engage with people um with a number of of different you know that more or less skillful ways of of getting people to respond to us so the children of these emotionally immature parents learn that the name of the game is to help mommy or daddy stay emotionally calm and stable yeah and keep their self-esteem in good shape so act in ways that that make them feel like they're emotionally stable they don't have anything to worry about and they are good people they are admirable people their self-esteem is good and that's the job that the children of these people take on in order to have the best chance of getting as much response to them as they can because if the emotionally immature person gets at all stressed remember I said there's stress tolerance isn't great if they get at all stressed they kind of you know constrict inside they become very wary um very um well some of them go all the way to suspicious but even before that they just become on guard they pull away they pull in and they are on the lookout uh kind of vigilant about you know what's going to happen next that is not exactly what we associate with good mothering right or good caretaking uh you know a tense wary Vigilant uh stiff new parent is not going to reassure that child's sense of safety and attachment and connection so the child learns don't do anything it would be stressful right because when they're relaxed enough yeah they are much better parents you know they can be responsive they can be funny they can do things with their children that are enjoyable it's just that they are so quickly and easily sent into that that defensive position and the child just learns uh not to not to stir that up yeah right exactly amazing uh the way that you describe that and I think many people can can relate to that and would you say that that's sort of the Fawn response you know um people pleasing my mom or dad so that I can keep them in a happy calm relatable safe Place yeah I could be safe absolutely that's that's a good way to put it yeah okay so um it seems like in a way that's that's a little bit also becoming a parentified child because you're trying to manage their emotional responses um yeah and also maybe you can talk a bit about uh parentified child I would imagine that also must come to play a lot in these kinds of relationships with emotionally immature parents yeah it does um because again uh in order for the child to get what they need there has to be a relationship there has to be a connection and because the child is the one with the least power in the relationship it kind of Falls to them to be the ones to come up with a way to keep that connection as uh positive and uh sound as possible so yeah they they very much become alert and Vigilant in return to their parents well-being to their parents mood I mean they pick up on the smallest micro Expressions okay the the little stiffening that happens um the very subtle changes in body language the tone of voice we I mean we're all made to pick up on this stuff I mean that's neurological it's not something that we even have to learn we can tell just like animals can tell but the parentified child uses that information to then do something to help calm the situation down or divert the parent or distract the parent or soothe the parent whatever you know they're particularly good at that child they will use that to see if they can get things more back on an even keel but the peronification of that reversal of roles is very hard on the child because the child is is nowhere near capable of actually doing that so what happens is that the child has to increasingly depend on their own mental functioning their own intellect to reason out what they should do and be two steps ahead of the game and be wise beyond their years you know a lot of times people will call these children old souls or you know that that's a wise kid and I always think with that why did that kid have to be so wise no what is it that's old about this kid and I think part of it is that they have prematurely moved up into their analytical minds and kind of stretched that mental development to its highest uttermost level I feel the tension you know like it's a stretch to get up there to think like that you're going beyond what you can comfortably do and they kind of live like that you know being more grown up than they really can be it's a tremendous tension that's set up in the system when you do that and then you know later on in life um they may be very embarrassed that stressful situations overwhelm them um they they feel like falling apart at times when they're like you know it wasn't that bad but yet I want to go you know climb in bed and and not come out for a couple of days there they don't understand why they um have these kind of collapses in adulthood but the way I understand it is we set ourselves up for that in childhood when we set up that pattern of go above and beyond your natural place your natural um uh capacity really thank you capacity natural development to be something wiser older yeah more effective than you really can sustain yeah and then when something uh you know very demanding comes in there you just don't have it you don't have the gas in the tank yeah yeah so would you say that we don't have that gas in the tank because of the having to do that since childhood it's almost like it's just it's just not there it's dried up it's would you say that is that what you mean no that's that's the metaphor yeah yeah because if when you get like that and you go into a collapse you just feel like there's nothing there yeah you're like you can't do it right um and I try to uh and I hope everybody will will do this with themselves but I try to reassure people that the feeling that they're having is what they experienced in childhood that they're kind of feeling like they have to be more Adept more capable than they really are and it's okay okay to not be that all the time and that everybody you know goes into these bad times and these collapses when things are too much for them you'll come back but don't add you know insult to injury by then criticizing yourself for being quote weak or whatever it's like not weak you're out of gas so do something to take care of yourself and get some uh time and some room to reconstitute so that you can meet the challenge yeah a lot of times people don't take that resilient approach because they've been hurried Along by an impatient parent that wants them to you know get with it and solve it um and so they push themselves too much yeah right this is such a great conversation that's so great so you talked about something that I I made a little note about because I I thought it was interesting about how as children we can come out to ways uh when we've been raised by emotionally immature parents you said something about the internalizer and the externalizer can you briefly just explain what you mean by those two yeah um those terms were my effort to explain or maybe I should say describe uh two reactions to having emotionally immature appearance now the people that show up in a therapist's office are likely to be the internalizer types um these are the people who are listening to podcasts who are reading books or going to therapy talking to their friends they're trying to figure it out the internalizer type has this capacity and they seem to have it from a very young age this capacity to take things in to to um pay attention and try to make sense out of stuff they like to learn they like to process stuff and by taking it in and thinking about it they're trying to understand what's going on about other people about themselves about the nature of Life about the nature of the world they're just curious you know and they have this sense that it can be figured out that you know things do make sense and when they get an answer oh my gosh they're so excited you know because it's like they're trying to figure out that unified field theory of Einstein's you know like like what is it that makes the world tick what is it that makes people tick so they're like that the internalizers um unfortunately that same characteristic means that they will inappropriately blame themselves when things go wrong sometimes because they tend to take it in and work on it so one of the things that we have to do in therapy with these uh people is we have to help them realize that a lot of the things they've experienced weren't their fault and that it really is a question of them understanding why the other person behave this way instead of taking responsibility for something that wasn't theirs at all it was this other person's personality issues now the externalizer um who can very easily be a sibling of the internalizer the externalizer doesn't deal with stress by thinking about things or processing things the externalizer deals with stress by acting out they see the world in terms of externals like this thing happened to me and so I did this thing um this person uh treated me this way so I felt this way so I did this thing it's always externalized and it's and they don't do this self-reflection that would allow them to see what part they're playing in their own troubles everything is somebody else's fault somebody else is to blame I mean sometimes this this this is attains ridiculous proportions I mean you can't believe what what they're denying or what they're how they're blaming other people for something that is so clearly you know their own fault but they just never see it and it appears to them like you know stuff is falling out of the sky on their heads and they have no idea why just you know they have such bad luck yes I think because that was something I heard that's bad luck no and people are saying people are so mean to me yeah yeah well you know um maybe we can talk a little bit about um what we all want to know so let's say we have these relationships we've had those relationships as children we have them now as an adult and we just are tired and we want to know how we can start to feel better about ourselves to have more agency and also how we can manage this relationship in a way that feels healthier yeah and I like that word manage because I think that's the right attitude um at an emotional level a lot of times what people want is they want a closer relationship with the person um but what I usually present as an alternative to that is that you can manage your interactions with them in ways that are less frustrating to you and more conducive you getting what you want [Music] um for instance if you have something that you want to get across like maybe it might be when I come to visit I'm going to stay at a hotel instead of staying at the family house and you know that this is going to cause an uproar with your mom or with your dad and so you're afraid to do it you're afraid to set that boundary or make that request but you decide to go ahead and do it anyway instead of it being about oh my gosh how am I going to to tell my mom this so that she doesn't get upset that can't be your goal because whether your mom or dad is upset with your boundary is not something that you have any control over naturally right right and if you make that your goal you're not going to know what to do next when they do what they do which is to say what do you mean you're not staying with us you always stay with us family stays together this is Thanksgiving so forth so what we do is we look at what is the specific outcome that you want well I want to end up in a hotel room on Thanksgiving night after the meal okay that's what we're headed for and then everything becomes about managing the interaction to that outcome it may be that you have to go through several iterations of mom being upset or dad telling you to stop making moms sad or this is ridiculous or whatever and you may have to realize that that's going to be the way it is for a while so that you just keep respectfully repeating what you want to do and what you're going to do and you're nice about it I mean most most people especially internalizers do not want to be these harsh assertive um you know impervious uh Warriors going in to put people in their place I mean that is not at all comfortable for an internalizer type to do they want to get along with people they don't want to hurt people's feelings so you can do this all in the most polite nicest way that you feel totally comfortable with as long as it's moving you toward that outcome that specific outcome that you want on this particular issue so that's managing toward resolution it's not making the relationship closer or getting Mom to feel better about it it's letting mom have her reactions and feelings but consistently staying with what it is that you want to get from that interaction so as you can tell very time consuming very energy consuming but that's the nature of what happens when you tell an emotionally immature person that they can't have what they want it's much like that's what happens when you tell a two-year-old or a four-year-old that they can't have what they want it's like why can't I you're the meanest ever I'm gonna throw a tantrum yeah I'm really hearing similarities there it's like you're going to suffer if you make me do something I don't want to do or you don't give me what I want so you're prepared for that you know they're going to do that but it doesn't mean that you're going to end up in your childhood bedroom on Thanksgiving night if that's not your goal mm-hmm so really thinking about what is it that that you want and sort of preparing preparing for the conversation would you how would that look like like in your mind preparing it's like rehearsing it yeah um you certainly do it in your mind um a lot of people like to write it out in journaling okay let's just let's just start and and everybody realize that you're extremely anxious when you do this okay just that goes with the territory but you write down what you want to say you feel your anxiety you imagine what they're going to say back you feel your anxiety and then you think you give yourself time to think like okay so if she said that's ridiculous I can't believe you just said that to me all right now I feel my anxiety I feel how bad I feel okay and and what would I say back what would I say back so you you give yourself time to come up with an answer one of the things that emotionally mature people do that's so disconcerting is they will rush you um you know like insist on an answer right away or get in your face with one of their uh you know like that's ridiculous or whatever and you're put on your back foot and you feel like you have to respond right away but you don't at that very moment you can say I have to go to the bathroom be right back and you can go give yourself a break think of what you want to say and return you never have to feel rushed that's one of the things that makes people feel the most insecure in these interchanges so when you um uh are practicing it you can do it in your own mind you can do it in journaling you can get a friend to role play I role play a lot um with my clients about um what they would say and we do it just like that you know I'll pretend to be the parent and I'll say one of those sort of challenging things and they'll go uh uh uh and I'll say it okay let's just stop you have all the time in the world to think of what you want to say just just pause it right there take a breath always think about what you might like to say to that they have never I guarantee you've done that in their life no they have felt like they had to quickly come back with some shattering yeah statement that was gonna you know somehow put the person in their place and they were gonna show them who's boss or it doesn't it doesn't work for them because they're not the bulldozer type of person that that comes naturally to so you have to use your own personality style when you're setting these limits with them I really like the idea of the of the journaling practice because you are giving yourself that time and that feels like you can have a little bit of control in that because you're practicing you're preparing for what may happen um yeah I I love that that's really really nice and really really helpful um so I mean you know honestly I could keep you here for another five hours but I won't but maybe I'll have you back if you would like to I so appreciated this conversation so much and I would recommend that people listen to it a couple of times I know I will um is there anything Lindsay you'd like to say before we come to a close either about what we talked about or if you want to add anything else um I just want people to realize that if there's something that they're feeling bad about or something that um is is bothering them in the relationship that they have with an emotionally immature person I want them to realize that this can be understood in the context of the kind of dynamics that go on between emotionally mature people and other people and to please keep that in mind and not fall into the kind of brainwashed conditioning that happens that makes people very self-critical and very down on themselves when they don't please other people or when other people don't agree with them okay that self-criticism can come in in such a developing way and it's important for us to realize that you know whatever it is that we have done in our attempt to deal with emotionally immature people is the best we could have done and we have the opportunity now as adults to treat ourselves with sympathy and empathy and respect and encouragement okay we don't have to reflect the voices the negative voices of those emotionally immature people who put us down so that they could feel more important and if if anybody can get that idea that the self-criticism is not something that's going to make you a better person it's just a repeat of what they probably went through in childhood you know that that would be that would be the greatest um outcome that I could imagine for readers of the book that's wonderful thank you thank you for your Compassionate Heart um we take it in we feel it it's wonderful thank you so much Lindsay oh thank you for having me I really enjoyed it Monique

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Length: 51min 56sec (3116 seconds)

Published: Mon May 22 2023