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[Music] you [Music] [Music] [Music] well I'm not much for making speeches but on behalf of her mother and I would like to thank you all for coming to Rachel's going off to college party this is the moment I've been waiting for what I meant was the moment I haven't been waiting for one of the hardest things for a father is when it comes time to send his little girl off to college Rachel we love you so much we are very very proud of you just remember our deal though you promised you wouldn't get married until you're at least 45 you sure you don't want to take any of your photos you've seen the dorm rooms go to a room for all that stuff I know this house isn't gonna be the same without you mom eats only three hours away I'll be back from time to time and you two can come visit it's not like a boy away forever how she's supposed to get anything packed with you crying over everything she owns you tell her dad don't let him fool you when you're here he's all together but when you drive away they'll be missing you do you enjoy dinner yeah thank you both so much you didn't have to do it are you kidding going off to college is a big deal I think your other clothes are probably ready he will help you you're back dad okay [Music] oh hey are you my roommate oh I guess so I'm Ally Rachel I went in and do my stuff gonna bed I don't know which one you wanted so I just picked one that's fine we're just going to the Student Union you wanna come with us I think I'm gonna get moved in first you need help with your stuff I got it thank you all right I'll see you later then yeah [Music] welcome welcome welcome is everybody alive I say is everybody alive here we go if you're wondering what plane you're on this is introduction to biology where we will be studying life and its origins and all that good stuff so if you're on the wrong flight this would be the time to disembark I am your humble pilot professor Marcus Kaman out in the hall behind my back you can call me anything you like but in here I would appreciate professor Kaman or if you must mister professor Kaman I want to try my best to entertain you during our time together in return I would appreciate from you a little critical thinking science is after all the field which challenges us to redefine the conventional wisdom of our predecessors that's what makes us grow as a society and as a species I want to have some honest intellectual discussion in here and I want each and every one of you to participate and that includes you and now for the good news it's about your grades attend this class and you will pass in fact if you show up every time I'll give you a C even if I know you're only pretending to listen to me what are you doing just a little work Rachel this is our first weekend at college we're going out [Music] [Music] you look like you could use a friend what I said you look like you can use a friend hard to hear you let's go outside that's better I'm Jason Rachel good to meet you Rachel your freshman yep I was a freshman once last year you like in your classes so far they're pretty good what are you taking English Spanish government algebra and biology biology did you get Kaman he did professor Marcus Kaman welcome welcome welcome is everybody alive that's right yeah I had him last year he's a fun guy you know we made biology really interesting and I hate biology I look forward to it then have a major yet Rachel I do what is it biology oh hi buddy some juice yeah we're gonna get out what time is it almost 10 so how was it with Jason he's nice yeah we just talked do you know him I was here this summer and I met him he's available oh and wait around though he won't be single for very long yes Richard looking forward to it I've got it down Rachel yeah she's fine yep she ended up going off to the University well Kimberly and I struggled a lot with that because our goal was to send her to a good Christian college but she really wants to be a pharmacist and they have a great program she'll find a good church over there ladies and gentlemen today we're gonna answer the age-old question that has been asked by generation after generation throughout history it is the question of questions concerning the origins of life it is of course which came first the chicken or the egg now how many of you would answer that by saying the egg came first raise your hands mr. Blair why the egg because without the egg there could be no chicken good answer now how many of you would say the chicken came first raise your hands all right miss Whittaker why the chicken because without the chicken there could be no egg good once again if you're with mr. Blair you think the egg came first raise your hands now if you think it was the chicken well the correct answer is drumroll please the egg the egg came first scientific research of the fossil record and the diversity and similarity of living organisms has convinced most scientific minds that complex life forms evolved from simpler life forms and if we open our books to chapter 2 we can study this in a little more detail I just got a text from Jason he wants me to meet him right now at the Student Union I'm telling you he likes you he's just a friend it sounds like he wants to be more than just friends hey what did you think about what professor Kaman was just saying about what about the egg coming first sounds okay to me I know my dad would not agree with that well daddy thank you Jason is gonna be with you what's this have I got an important job for you okay what's this old newspapers we need to archive all of the key articles onto our website all right I I think I can handle that Shana think there's more newspapers than just this huh that's right this is only about five years worth we'll start with these how many years are we gonna do well the papers been in existence for over 60 years 60 take me all semester to do that and the University will be indebted to you for your effort no way mr. Jamison I was mistaken it'll take me my entire college career to do this and the University will be indebted to you for your effort so she comes over last night to watch TV and then she said she's only gonna watch it with me in the lounge I mean is that stupid or what it's you know how to pick them yeah I know how to drop him too what she's only the cutest freshman you've seen I don't care aren't you giving with her later today at that Student Union it's supposed to you know your problem is Jason you give up too easily Steven dinner in five washing you up be right there all right here's your hundred you know what you're gonna say right I already told you I'm not gonna do this Rachel come on this is a good idea I can't do it yes you can it's just Tyler he's my roommate the guy in the red shirt I can't do have to because he's cute you think everybody's cute well he is no go I did it Rachel if you pull this off everybody's gonna be talking about this for years why me why don't we go no he met Ali this summer he might know something's up would you come up with something like this anyway I found this old book in the library firm wood in 1970s actually 1960s but thank you very much it happens to be why nobody knows about this is this so stupid Rachel this is fun what are you worrying about I got your back I don't know you've gotta loosen up girl I won't be able to see you with a straight face yes you can come on Rachel just do it in the name of College Fund yeah this is your moment it'll be great trust me alright alright here are your eggs I just got to say everything exactly the way I told you to say it okay I have no idea what you gonna miss you both you're gonna owe me excuse me good looking me yes you you want to make a hundred dollars hundred dollars yeah hundred hours Rica Yeah right what's the catch no catch you just let me crack these three eggs over your head and this hundred other bill is yours what you heard me I crack these eggs over your head and this hundred dollar bill is yours do it Tyler come on this is this is a joke right yeah your friend can hold the bail it's real money man it's a lot of cash but gifts may seem like a lot to you but where I come from that spare change okay go for it what do I need to do see right there here comes egg number one okay now egg number two are you ready yeah all right where I go boys now yeah you know I think twos enough I'll just take this hundred one hundred three eggs Marcus Kaman professor Kaman hello Phil just calling to get your topic for the October debate I'd like to promo it at the one we're doing tomorrow night I thought we were going in November originally yes but it got switched around you didn't get the memo no I didn't do you mean to tell me there was a communication breakdown between our journalism department and yours again imagine that Phil I don't even have a topic yet can you give me a week or so yeah sure I'll just say it's gonna be your department doing the next one that's what are you and Jason doing later we're not busy or something I don't know wait isn't he still calling you yesterday when we talked he hinted that we were just gonna be friends sure I'm sorry it's fine he's just a friend that's never anything more I'm gonna go to the library you okay yeah fine yeah how's the archiving going buddy it's going he gave me five years to do and I'm on year - sounds like world-record pace to me sounds like a waste of time to me and who's gonna read all these old things you do know why you're doing this right no idea you put the articles online the alumni read them relive their glory days and donations go up couldn't have said it better myself that's what this is all about I should be getting a cut here hmm I mean you're all set to cover the debate tomorrow night right yes sir I'll be there I should get a card of this mr. Jameson and the university will be indebted to you for your effort just thinking about five minutes I'm sure that computers are me excuse me can you tell me if I'm in the right place to get breakfast I was hoping to get a couple eggs oh hi but we should be formally introduced Tyler Mathis Rachel Whitaker I'm really sorry but what he did about that Hey look anytime a pretty girl comes up to me and says hey good-looking that's that's all I need to hear she can crack eggs over my head any time you know who put me up to it yeah yeah I know I'll get him back get him one for me while you're at it oh yeah you got it you might face it for a minute go ahead you're working on report for biology you guys came Kamin you know you don't have to do any work in there right I got to do was show up every time and you get a C that's what he said yeah well that's true I had him last year and man kept his word and I am living proof I really need to get better than this see my majors biology gotcha so you aren't going to the debate tomorrow night right debate yeah at the Fine Arts Center what debate what is it there's posters everywhere there ain't seen any well is one right back there where um if you look just around the corner next to the copy machine on the left on the bulletin board there's a poster I guess you missed it must've missed it and these are campus events okay first of all their educational which is what college is all about second of all everybody goes so their social which is what college is all about the debates are musts picking you up what you and me we're going to the debate I don't I don't know I think that certain someone at this table also know there's someone at this table is supposed to good evening and welcome thank you all for coming I'm Phil Jameson professor of journalism here at the University and I will also be your moderator for this evening it's favored weren't gonna get a seat and tonight's debate is presented by the math department so let me introduce our two debaters to you now thanks for walking me back it's fun hey a chance of us doing something again I know I did crack two eggs over my head so I feel like maybe I should get two chances got me there how about this weekend we can't visit my parents this weekend uh yeah I got to do that you're anxious to see me well how about we need you back yeah they can work oh okay then I'll call you thanks for coming out with me tonight I don't know see ya yeah [Music] dinner soon hey thanks dad busy just sending a text back to Tyler Oh new boyfriend he's a friend I just met him so tell me more about your classes they're going good I really like old my instructors especially my biology teacher professor Kaman he's a riot you and your roommate getting along oh yeah Ellie's great we get along well good you were always good at making friends meeting new people every day it seems it's fine to church it no I'm not yeah they're just I'm so busy getting used to everything very well come on we're gonna be late for church we need to go I'm here honey we live so close that's embarrassing when we're late Steven he's also here let's go Rachel we'll meet you in the car see then okay dad will you grab my Bible for me jerk [Music] I'm headed out feels like you just got here I'll be back to visit soon oh hey I love you drive carefully love you too let us know when you get there hey well [Music] by [Music] she seems to be doing well she's made some friends likes her glasses seems to really like that one with her visitor came in I'm glad [Music] [Music] the guy's an evolutionist and a big proponent of a pastor he's written several published articles I mean it's a long list and there's nothing in the whole course description about biblical creation is even a plausible alternative from what I could see does that surprise you all our public schools and universities teach evolution is the answer to the origins of life even some of our Christian schools are buying into the evolution theory as part of the creation account you're kidding the attack on Genesis is a real battleground well I certainly don't like the idea of Rachel sitting under this guy in class have you had a chance to speak to her about it no I'm not yeah but I will actually she's not the one I'd like to talk to mr. Blair may I dialog with you for a moment yes sir I understand you're here on a track scholarship you're a 1500 meter man yes I am congratulations I used to do a bit of track myself after the day so I know a little of what you guys go through do you mind my asking what's your best time in that event 403 four minutes and three seconds that is very impressive running that must be the best time on your team no there's actually three guys ahead of me right now three well then I guess you got a little competition ahead of you don't you yeah I'll get him that's the spirit you got what ten teams in the conference I think so no there are a check so let's say there are four fellas on each team running the 1500 that's 40 runners where do you think you place among them not sure sir 30th maybe could be well then I guess you got a lot of competition ahead of ya yeah I guess so well you're a freshman we'll give you time to move up to the conference which I'm sure you will besides we can look at this whole thing from another angle for one thing mr. Blair can certainly outrun anyone in this class but better than that if he had run the 1,500 meters in that kind of time in the 1896 Olympics he would have won gold he'd won by 30 seconds and if he done the same in the nineteen for Olympics he would have won by two seconds do you see what's happening as we evolved we're getting faster stronger smarter look at the technological leaps that have happened just in the last 50 years imagine what our species is going to be like a hundred years from now how cool would it be to stick around to see that hey I figured you'd be a few of us are going downtown to grab a bite to eat there's a jazz band playing why don't you call Taylor and come with us you can't it just got here and I've gotta finish this for Kaitlyn's class can do later so I'm Tate on Thursday you know but I've got other work to do - you're so studious okay know if you change your mind call me okay have fun you're taking caimans class pardon sorry I couldn't help it over here you're taking professor Caymans class yes you too no I had him a couple years ago his class is so interesting did you like him Mike him you know he seems like a nice guy agree with him that's a different story don't you think professor Kaman has some good concepts he could be right it looks like you've got a lot of work to do and I was just on my way out myself so by the way my name's Evan Evan Carlson nice to meet you Rachel Whitaker alright see you around Rachel Whitaker yeah yeah by the way Rachel he's not right [Music] you sure those girls are gonna be there it told me they were coming just remember I get first pick Yeah right you'll be lucky if one of them even says hi to you don't worry Luke Jason ain't gonna get anybody so you'll get your pick okay how about you worry about your own deal you got going on Tyler's still playing that game with Rachel oh yeah and striking out actually we're building a meaningful relationship something to amateurs wouldn't know anything about which after translation means that he's not getting anywhere come on Tyler man I told you you should just dump her hook boys I'm not just gonna let some one crack two eggs over my head and come away empty all right just not as impatient as Jason over here okay my little plan will play out just wait and see I just talked to Rachel I told her I could take the day off tomorrow and we dried up for a quick visit she said she'd love to have us we'll take her out to an early dinner and then drive back I've been back in one day don't worry I'll Drive you can sleep on the way home your father's idea where's dad professor Kaman yes my name is Stephen Whitaker may I speak with you for a moment sure I'm sorry have we met no but my daughter is in your freshman biology class Rachel Whitaker ah Rachel she's the pleasure to have in class Thank You professor Kaman I don't mean to come off so direct or with any disrespect but I'm concerned about what you're teaching in your class is that so can you give me an example well it seems your class deals quite a bit with the subject of evolution yes it does can you explain to me why you teach only evolution sure but first let me ask you mr. Whitaker are you a religious man a religious man well you believe in God in the Bible oh yes sir I do and does that help you help me does that help you to be at peace with yourself yes it does well then I think that's great and I would encourage you to go on believing so you're teaching evolution mr. Whitaker I teach what my textbooks tell me to teach it comes from real people who have conducted real experiments and observed real evidence and frankly I'm at peace with that but it goes against the core beliefs of everything we've been teaching Rachel all her life I guess what Christianity stands for dad hello Rachel what are you doing here I came by to talk to your instructor but why well I just want to stop by for a minute hello Rachel professor Kaman mr. Whitaker I've gotta meet with another student momentarily so I'm afraid we're gonna have to pick up this discussion at another time but I tell you what you strongly believe in the creation story from the Bible right yes that's correct but I don't call it a story every month the university sponsors a debate that is also open to the public my department will be hosting the next one on October 19th why don't you and I debate this issue it would be a great opportunity for you to express your views there moderated there orderly evolution versus creationism what do you say no I couldn't do that I mean I never intended to professor Kaman my dad can't debate you Rachel your father has the passion of his beliefs that's what makes for a great debate you can read off the prepared text that's done all the time but dad you can't no wait a minute professor Kaman I did not come in here with any intention of doing a debate with you I understand mr. Whitaker it's just that I think this topic would be so valuable for the students and you do believe in your viewpoint don't you I can't believe - how to grade the debate professor Kaman mom you've gotta stop this the man cornered me Rachel what was I supposed to say you guys said no this man obviously has no respect for God or anything that we believe in but professor Kaman doesn't claim to be a Christian either do you know how embarrassing this is gonna be for me I don't want to embarrass anyone especially you dad you're not gonna convert professor game into your belief so why even try actually it's not his beliefs that I'm concerned about I mean I feel this man is affecting you Rachel with he's causing you to change your views it's ridiculous won't say something honey your father's just concerned about you that's all I can't believe this is happening and I'm certainly not happy with what this came in guys teaching you let's just go to dinner Phil Jamison professor hey Phil I think I've got the topic for the next debate how does evolution versus creationism sound well unless you've changed teams I know what side you fall on well noted on the calendar of events that seems some of my views are being challenged we challenge anything you say the father of one of my students the plot thickens yeah I got a religious dad who doesn't like I see I might have to do a little publicity on this just to build a crowd well I got his name and number right here if you need them animator Evan got our topic for the next debate and I think this one will be an interest to you seems the father one of our students is challenging professor Kaman evolution versus creationism I want to do a story on this prior to the debate and build it up there's the father's contact information see what you can find out you know his purpose mode of what he hopes to accomplish I'll get Shane to do the same thing with Professor Kaman okay so we'll do who knows I mean we'll get some community interest on this one Whitaker before we begin today I'd like to make a brief announcement each month the University sponsors a debate at the Fine Arts Center and our department will be hosting the next one yours truly will be taking part as it's a topic that is near and dear to my heart evolution versus creationism now we have a slightly unusual situation this time in that my debate opponent is the father of one of the students in this class miss Rachel Whittaker I don't doubt that miss Whittaker finds the situation a little embarrassing but I want her to know that she has my complete support at this time when she's beginning to think for herself I just wanted the rest of you to be aware of the situation and I hope you're all planning on coming to the debate as a part of your participation in this course okay let's get to work open your books to Chapter six we just left after dinner I felt that best to give her some time she's pretty upset I agree sometimes it is the right thing to do maybe I shouldn't have accepted but I felt put on the spot now I feel like Rachel's against me because of this she's not against you Stephen plus I'm not a public speaker like he is I've never done anything like this before look you know we're here to help you any way we can I appreciate that Rachele right my name is evan we met the other day can I talk to you for a minute no right now I've got a lot on my mind is your father's name Stephen I can't believe my father went to see one of my professors and then like some self-righteous fundamentalist gets into a discussion about creation and evolution sorry you're so upset I mean do you have any idea how embarrassing this is gonna be for me Rach I wouldn't be looking at it that way how would you like it if your parent was going to debate the most popular professor on campus you put yourself in my shoes I understand but I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing it's not professor Kaman is preaching some sort of gospel truth here guys stop this it's Rachel Rachel I'm going to ask you to please stop this debate Rachel we were just talking about you I'm glad you called this is gonna ruin me on campus dad I'm not trying to hurt you maybe you a Rachel this is an important issue you're not gonna change professor caimans mind believe the universe was created what does he teach you in class if there was a big bang or something dad if you love me you will stop this debate please don't say that you must stop this debate Rachel please you must stop it you can't leave it like that you gotta call her back hi Miss region Whittaker I'm not here right now voicemail hey hey set up a meeting the professor came to do that interview she talked to that father yet oh no she's getting ready to call him yeah before you do I think you should check this out what presser Kaman was in the news yesterday front-page story we didn't run a story and came in yesterday yeah well we did 12 years ago it appears our dear professor got one of his colleagues fired over the same issue what yeah some instructor named Portland refused to teach evolution in his biology class and came and got a mouse did it's all there oh and by the way you talked that dad tell my son good luck listen to what it says in this high school textbook I picked up to the library humans came from ape-like ancestors there is nothing Supernatural about the origins of human beings how can they say that and get away with it I don't know but they are Stephen Whittaker mr. Whittaker this is Evan Carlson Cohen from the University I'm a student on staff at the campus paper here and would you be able to meet up sir meet well I live about three hours from there yes I know I was thinking we can meet halfway I can't we just take care of this over the phone I know Rachel sir and I'm aware of the situation I'm a Christian and I'm on your side I've got some information that may prove helpful caimans smart and clever I'll take what you say twisted around question new corner you I seen in debate before and he is good at it I've never debated anyone before in my life sounds like a mismatch to me how many people come to these events probably not many 2530 what there will be more at this one special since caimans doing it I can probably make all of his classes attend as well much to Rachael's delight I'm sure plus the editor is running this story before the debate which isn't normal Andy is planning to contact the local media could get a pretty good audience great more pressure look I've got some material in the car with some good information and science from a biblical perspective I'll give it to you thanks appreciate it is it here you seem pretty serious about this maybe you should be the one debating Kaman God didn't give me the opportunity sir he gave it to you I think what you're doing is great Rachel sure doesn't I found out something interesting twelve years ago at the University there's an incident involving Kaman and another professor on the same subject Joseph G Portland Portland used to teach caimans class so for he taught creation and came enjoying the university staff that year didn't like it and got him fired that's Portland's contact info he lives nearby maybe you could give him a call or even try to go see him he could offer some good insight I'll keep this in mind and now I do have several questions I need to ask you for the article sure I think it's interesting you chose to meet here I figured she was about half way this place is very special to me what do you mean let me show you something this is about the spot Rachael was 10 years old we were spending the day here together and she was over by this River playing I remember she was looking for stolons and she got thrown into the river suddenly though she found a 50-cent piece lying on the ground but just after she reached down and picked it up a boy grabbed her hand and took it from her I saw this from over there and noticed how he taunted her as he walked away and went back towards his father Rachael of course was upset over losing the coin because she found it first and came over to complain to me I then tried to use that incident as an example I told her it was wrong for the boy to take that coin from her and the stealing was a sin but I also pointed out to her how all of us have sinned against God in our own lives in essence we stolen coins from him the only one you can forgive us for our sins is Jesus Rachele seem to understand this we prayed to the Lord together and I believe that day she became a Christian that's right honey I believe someone is now causing my little girl did drift away from what she's been time scouring that picnic table and I'll answer those questions for you oh hey how'd it go yeah went well Evans a committed believer and was very helpful I need to make a quick phone call and I'll tell you more about it okay hello this is he Stephen Whittaker and I have an unusual situation I'd like to speak to you about for a moment what is this pertaining to I am a Christian and my daughter goes to the University used to teach at that's right I don't teach anymore yes sir the reason I'm calling is because she's taking a class from a professor Kaman and I'd like to ask you about him I'm not interested in discussing anything having to do with the name you just mentioned but I have a debate scheduled with Professor Kaman on the subject of creation versus evolution and I was hoping you could help me I said I'm not interested hello professor [Music] tell her what am I gonna do you might have to let him do it look first of all nobody goes those things anyway you told me everyone went to them when we first met I want you to think that I was into stuff like that you know with your studying in the library look you saw how many people were there yeah I've been to a couple of them before and they're like anything at ten people listen Rach nobody takes those debates seriously so if I were you I'd stop worrying about it but when you do need to start taking seriously as our flight football party coming up weekend after next I stay in your dorm from now until after the debate but that's Saturday night you're with me okay okay okay good enough it'll make you feel better car you down one more time Rachel dad I'm calling again to ask you to please not do this debate Rachel you debating professor Kaman is not gonna solve anything Rachel honey you don't know everything you professor believes I've been doing a lot of research reading some of the reports he's published this guy stands against everything that we believe in Evans told me some things about him also how do you know Evan you went and met with my father didn't books talk to him about Kanan you're encouraging him behind first of all I had to speak with your father since the editor assigned me to do a story on the debate and of course I'm encouraging him this is an opportunity for the truth my father is no match for professor came in and you know it father might do better than you think I don't know how I got myself into these situations I can answer that one you like him and play with your mind professor Kaman is a very intelligent man who makes a good point no came in said gifted communicator really makes it seem like he's making good points did you do the chicken in the egg thing yet yes he said the egg right let me give you some line about scientific research in the fossil record and what if he's correct Rachel think about it life comes from life it doesn't come from non-life God created the chicken first just like the Bible said and then he set it up so that life could reproduce itself kami doesn't believe in God so he teaches the opposite come on then you're not helping just answer me this one question did God create this world or did it come about the revolution like Kaman since then just answer the question please no not gonna answer that we just did just forget it [Music] I just don't think I've got a good enough handle on the subject Stephen you know enough just share it that's all you need to do I don't know this outline you've shown me is good and you won't be alone a group of us from the church are coming to support you thanks professor Kaman we'll probably get all of his students to attend and I don't think too many of them are going to be rooting for me [Music] hey hey I thought you gonna tell us game I have too much work to do go to the library maybe I can find a corner to hide in Rachel not all the students agree with Professor Kaman yeah cuz the only guy around here that I know who doesn't is Evan she's going through a mini crisis that's all dude just admit that you guessed wrong and move on yeah we won't hold it against you I think guess wrong she's interested it's just didn't expect to steal their dad popping out you're wasting your time plus she's way too religious she can't be that religious if she's with Tyler I look our flag football parties next weekend and that'll be the night I make my move I'll let you know how religious she is I don't know why you wasting your time driving all the way out here did I say it wasn't interested well sir I thought if I could explain the situation to you in person I know the situation Kaman is brainwashing his daughter's mind like he does all the students to take its classes I was hoping you could give me some insight that would help me prepare why are you debating him wasn't my idea what he challenged you you accepted how are you I'd get out of it I was hoping you could help me I mean you know the topic so well read a book a lot of good ones out there you know Kaman I want nothing to do with that man that was a long time ago a university was my life I wasn't gonna teach evolutionary lies from those textbooks then one day because of Kaman it all gets taken away maybe you got taken away because you were making an impact for the Lord this is a battle we're in I lost mine professor Portland there are so many people that you could be influencing with your life and the gifts that God has given you I haven't taught at that University for 12 years I'm out of the game we should never stop trying to share the Lord with people you remember for God so loved the world I said I'm out of the game I'm trying to forget this not relive it would you please leave but Professor Portland I asked you to leave I don't believe the lies either but it still comes down to a choice we all make and by the way a Christian is never out of the game [Music] you got nothing from Portland nothing he still seems bitter about the whole thing he asked me to leave well mr. Jameson has contacted some of the local media mr. Whittaker you still there yes I'm here you have people praying for you sir you have supporters this makes it tough and I know Rachel's not one of them thanks Evan I'll talk to you later there bye [Music] Hey I'll catch up with you later excuse me your dad's the guy that's gonna debate caiman right why do you ask I'm in your bio class why would anyone wanna debate came in he doesn't I don't want to do you ever seen that thing that came and does very show so we all came from apes Arden how we all came from apes what is it how do you know did it for class one day I heard him go through it and make your father look like a complete idiot with that example look I told you I don't want him to do it excuse me couldn't help it over here are you talking about professor Kaman when he goes through his routine about how we all came from apes yeah have you seen it yeah I've seen it I thought it was great let me ask you something does your mother look like an ape would you say does your mother look like an ape watch it man I'll assume that's a no how about your grandmother does she look like an ape then who are you I'll take that as another no so your mother doesn't look like an ape and neither does your grandmother how about your great-grandmother do pictures go that far back in your family does she look like an ape what's your deal man came and says we all come from apes so which one in your family was the monkey I Got News for you you could take it all the way back to the very first man and woman Adam and Eve and guess what no one was ever in deep you know why because Apes come from apes and humans come from humans now who's gonna make who look like a complete idiot whatever I don't need you to defend me [Music] isn't defending you [Music] my picture and everything hey I know a good story when it comes my way I'm getting some great feedback already I'd say you and your team put together a very nice article thank you I'm shooting for a full house on this one I just hope your shows up any reason to think he won't no but I've got a feeling that after this debate is done wish you'd stayed home you're too kind I'll see you Thursday night look it's not that hard all you got to do is memorize the stuff and then after the test you just forget it that's what Tyler and I do it's so stupid how's this ever gonna help you in life it's not that's why we memorize and then we forget just like I keep telling Tyler just got to forget that Rachel girl but you know him he'll hang in there maybe he really likes her likes her cuz she's cute that's all I wouldn't let anyone crack eggs in the head I don't care how cute she is you know Tyler in his stupid plan well we'll see what happens at the flag football party this weekend that's what he's supposed to make his move eventually he'll see I was right about her what is so important that you need to talk to me right now can we sit down for a minute come on Evan can we just sit down for a minute please what Rachel I'm sorry to bother you but I need to tell you something what you need to do is talk my dad out of doing this debate she really listened yourself some time he made sure done a number on you why are you so against professor Kaman does this sound familiar just show up and get a see what caimans class look if you see as your final grade if you just show up without doing any work didn't you ever wonder about that mean no other teacher does that maybe that's why he's the most popular instructor on campus or the one with the biggest agenda what do you mean by that he teaches his evolution lies to get students to doubt their faith and God in the Bible so you're saying I'm not a Christian now you told me I mean just the other day you wouldn't even admit that God created the world I know God created the world yeah committed to that truth then why you all of your dad for wanting to defend it he's just never done anything like this before you know why is it that one Christian wants to take a stand for his faith and the next one doesn't why do some Christians have convictions about things and others don't maybe the difference lies in how I first came to the Lord was it by addition or submission what do you mean by that seems to me that a lot of people have just added Jesus to their life that's not it you can't just had Jesus to your life you must submit your life to him it's a big difference so you are thinking about a Christian only you can answer that one just leave me alone you can't leave yet yes I can Rachel I came to tell you something I'm not interested Tyler's the one not interested have you cracked those eggs over his head was a setup just overheard two of his buddies talking about the library and that flag football party this weekend that's when he's gonna make his move Rachel Tyler only spends time with you because he thinks you're cute that's it you're making this up it's the truth Rachel that's why I came over here I thought he should know don't believe you I wouldn't like but Tyler is sorry [Music] which it seems to me that a lot of people have just added Jesus to the life that's not it he just had Jesus to your life you must submit life to Him [Music] where Jesus [Music] Rachel are you alright hi dad first I want to tell you how sorry I am [Music] about you some juice hey burly Ali I need to tell you something all right that's it a reminder the debate is tonight at the Fine Arts Center and I strongly encourage you all to attend now as for the debate itself I accepted a challenge that was brought before me it is my obligation to this university and to the students I teach to defend what I know to be true I do hope I see you there this evening dismissed why don't you go ahead out the ketchup shooter professor Kaman yes Rachel you said that my dad was the one who challenged you but it's not really correct I think that you're the one who challenged him your father wanted to confront me on my views I could tell from the moment I met him I plan to go easy on him and I will was there something else miss Whitaker yes sir well the chicken came first [Music] been waiting for you but I'm in a rush got a game walk with me please where we hidden cuz like I said I got a game to get to I can't see you anymore what can't see you anymore we went what brought the sign I don't really know how to say this but I haven't been fair with you fair with me what are you talking about I like you Tyler I do there's just a nice guy and you're always so kind to me we're not right not together I thought the things were going Gradius I would say something to you I got right with the Lord I want to start living my life to please him I'd be happy to tell you about it if you want to hear more no no I'm not ready for that I'm sorry I should have told you about to switch through air but you're so selfish caught up in my own stuff into that I am truly sorry I'm gonna be late for my game I tell you ain't kiddin Saylor what did you say to her what are you doing what did you tell her who Rachel I don't know what you're talking about she turned on me man somehow she knows well it wasn't me well someone told her it wasn't me Luke did you say something I mean well somehow she found out she pulled some religion garbage on me about a minute ago and now we're over okay so what's the big deal it is a big deal I wasted a lot of time on this dude I told you she wasn't worth it and you didn't listen to me somehow she found out [Music] well pastor I told you we'd be here and several others who the church if come out as well thank you for coming professor came in hey fill that little paper of yours has more of a circulation than I would have guessed yes it's a good crowd I see the visiting team has some followers here tonight hey we're ready to start so if you'll take your place I'll go and inform your opponent got it Stephen Whitaker yeah Phil Jamison journalism we spoke on the phone thanks for coming my wife Kimberly it's pleasure hey we're ready to begin so if you take your place up on stage we'll get started yeah sure people are praying for you hello hello hello I'm Phil Jamison I am the professor of journalism here at the University I'd like to welcome everyone to our debate tonight which deals with the subject of evolution versus creationism what a great crowd I'm a little nervous up here myself I can only imagine what our two combatants must be feeling it's my best line guys it's all I've got let me introduce to you our two participants now on my left speaking on behalf of creationism he has a daughter who attends a university here please give a warm welcome to mr. Stephen Whitaker and on my right a man who needs no introduction he is arguing on behalf of evolution he is from our biology department please give a warm welcome to professor Marcus came in okay this is how this is gonna work both men are going to give brief opening statements and then they'll be able to question each other's comments and after that we're gonna open up this forum to you the audience for your questions okay mr. Whitaker you are first you may begin with your opening statement thank you let me say first that I've never done anything like this before I do believe though that the topic at hand is an important one and in fact as I prepared for this debate it became clear to me that it's more important than I ever realized it seems that when the question is posed as to how life came to exist on our planet the theory of evolution has become the dominant scientific view that has taught in our schools and universities across this great land of ours frankly this amazes me the first problem I immediately see is that evolution is not scientific in the truest sense of the word since science deals with what can be observed and reproduced through experimentation scientific claims must be accepted only after they have been verified the origin of life can either be observed nor reproduced in any laboratory even though they try to show us this with their illustrations in the textbook I studied by definition then true naturalistic science can furnish no knowledge about where any life-form including the human race came from or how it got here if God did not create the universe then who or what did a Big Bang that produced a cosmic explosion what caused it to go bang a chemical reaction what organized the original chemicals or molecules or gases or whatever evolutionists say happened to form life here on earth and how did it create so much detail and beauty and design and intelligence nothing times something does not equal everything and yet as I see it that is the true definition of an evolutionary view of the universe and what millions and millions of people are placing their trust in as to how life on this earth began the evolutionary worldview is clearly as much a religion as any theistic worldview not only is the teaching of evolution an attack against those well-known first words of the Bible in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth but it is an undermining assault against the authority of God which really becomes the main issue here at least when we're starting with God is the first cause seems that everything else that happens makes sense that's it I guess for my opening statement thank you thank you mr. Whitaker professor came and your opening statement please well first I'd like to say well done mr. Whitaker very well done you have debated before you put forth some very compelling questions and ideas in fact I think if we were to pass a hat right now you might bring in a nice donation or two I just had a few problems with what you said especially at the end there about God being the first cause you can't prove any of it now I know you're gonna say that it all has to be taken on faith but that's always the out on your side that's always the explanation we know what faith is it's wishful thinking and in case you haven't noticed things don't always turn out so good at the end the good guy doesn't always win wishful thinking doesn't bring home the bacon and it cannot ever be proven but when it comes to the evolutionary answer laboratory experimentation and intensive scientific analysis have proven conclusively that living organisms evolved from nonliving chemicals and what makes that so important is that it means that intelligence wasn't needed for life to form in the beginning we are all descendants of a common ancestor just as you and your cousins are descendants of a common grandmother and through a process of descent with modification that common ancestor gave rise to the fantastic diversity that we see in the fossil record and living all around us today that is proof mr. Whittaker that is scientific proof evolution means that we're all distant cousins man and the oak tree the hummingbird in the whale life is about change in the sequence of fossils in the strata documents that change and the clear progression of simpler life forms evolving into more complex life forms is accepted by every clear-thinking scientific mind as irrefutable truth radiometric dating of the earth shows it to be 4.5 billion years old give or take and the rocks and fossils that we see all around us are millions and millions of years old that's a lot of time for change mr. Whitacre that is time for evolution thank you Thank You professor Kaman you may both now question each other's opening statements mr. Whitaker I guess my first question for you professor Kaman and the most important one I can think of is how do you explain away God explain away yes what about God simply put man created God man created God I'm a hundred percent with Freud on this one sir the man created God dr. Sigmund Freud brilliantly observed many years ago that man is riddled with deep-seated fears living as he does in a world of disease and famine and disaster with very little control over his circumstance so yes he created God he postulated a being who could deliver him kind of like a supernatural skyhook that could pull him out of trouble man also believed that he was getting a raw deal from just about everybody so he wanted a cosmic umpire to blow the big whistling and halt the game until everybody got what they deserved but most of all man fears death and extinction and so he needed a Heavenly Father who could take him at the end to some heavenly place that he decided to call heaven all because he couldn't face the fact that eventually he was gonna vanish from existence so what's the purpose of life professor Kaman we live and then we die and go back into the earth that's it there's no afterlife face the music mr. Whitaker Elvis is dead he's left the building in this life we get a chance to make a mark if we do that maybe the next generation will remember us maybe we'll even teach them something but there is no afterlife I believe there's much more than that yeah you believe mr. Whittaker but do you have any proof of an afterlife proof proof scientific proof any kind of proof the Bible says we believe by faith faith in what and a God we can't see in a book we can't rely on I'd like a little scientific proof I can't offer scientific proof well the words in this book that you hold so sacred how do you even know they're true the Bible is very trustworthy I didn't ask if it was trustworthy I asked if it was true the Bible is the Word of God wasn't the Bible written by man yes it was and how does that make it the Word of God look I can't explain it so you're betting your afterlife on a book you can't explain about a god you can't prove I am sticking with fright on this one mr. Whittaker I am definitely sticking with Freud Freud was wrong Freud was wrong excuse me sir there'll be a time later for the audience to ask questions it's okay he's my friend he's with me I decided to get back in the game mind if I take over from here mr. Jameson if it would be all right I would like for my friend here to continue for me well that's not how we normally do things is that acceptable to you professor Kaman proceed you never cease to amaze me Marcus of course you're going to agree with Freud's views on God since evolution leaves no room for a supernatural creator and since there is no God then there are no rules and no one to whom we must give an account but man didn't create God Freud got that wrong in fact I would propose to you the very opposite I believe that if man had his way he would rather God did not exist and eliminate God haven't you noticed whenever anything goes bad in someone's life or there is some tragic event that occurs people religious and non-religious almost inevitably blame God how could God allow this how could God allow that no if man had his way he would rather eliminate God not create him even comes up with theology that says God is dead and has left the building sorry to be so rude to your guests my name is Joseph G Portland professor Joseph Portland you see twelve years ago I was the one that taught biology here at the University only I taught from the perspective that God is our Creator and I refuse to teach what I felt we're evolutionary lies from the textbook when professor came and joined our staff he got me fired over this very issue I despise you came I blamed you for ruining my career sadly for me I let you take me out of the game you're talking about how those laboratory experiments have proven that living organisms evolved from nonliving chemicals as proof of a naturalistic origin of life this is just not so those experiments only showed that certain organic compounds could be formed from inorganic compounds and intelligence was and is still needed since someone had to conduct and design those experiments certainly that's far from creating life in the laboratory and you know that the amount of information contained in the nucleus of a living cell shows that it could not have evolved from nonliving chemicals and that it must have been created you know the fossil record does not show the continuous development of one kind of creature into another and that no one has ever seen one kind of plant or animal changing into another of a different kind dogs changed into different kinds of dogs but there are always dogs and we can breed dogs to form new varieties but they never turn into cats or kangaroos because they remain in the boundaries that God created for them in the beginning and you know that there are layers of assumptions used to calculate the age of the earth using radiometric dating so why are you misleading our audience the earth is not billions of years old the earth is not millions of years old not even close you see the professor and I can go on and on and on and bore you with our technical definitions whatever he says I have a rebuttal and back and forth and you know we can go outside right now and the stars can come down and form the words in the sky God created the world and the evolutionists would blame it on those clever Baptists to me the most troubling aspect about this issue is that in our society today evolution is being taught in our schools and universities across this land as a matter of fact but no one can scientifically prove evolution just as no one can scientifically prove that God created the world since none of us were present to witness it both these teachings then become a matter of faith the evolutionist has nothing but vast periods of time random chance events and the ever-changing ideas of man to base his worldview upon while the one who holds to creation has his beliefs firmly rooted in the truths contained in the Bible and a personal God who created everything I love this university I loved teaching my students but one thing got in my way led to my downfall it wasn't until I was visited by a new friend that I came to realize it and it was not you Marcus I blamed you but it was not you it was me and my pride I was the one who was at fault 12 years ago not in water was teaching but in how I went about it I should have taught my students to look at both sides of the evidence realizing that everyone individually has to make their own choice neither you are going to look at life through men's ideas or God's Word so if evolution follow where that if God then serve the Lord we can't prove anything here tonight we can only present theories you can chance your eternity on the views of freud and darwin if you want i'm putting my trust in Jesus Christ who died on the cross for my sins was buried and rose again on the third day I know some of you will call that stupidity I am calling it humility and I will trust and I will follow Christ and wait on the hope of eternal life that he offers may you find that same hope [Music] [Music] Marcus I'm sorry for my attitude and I held bitterness towards you for a long time I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me [Music] professor Kaman is there anything you'd like to add okay that concludes our evening everyone our next debate will be November 14th presented by the business department the discussion about government spending we hope to see you then thanks for coming Evon thank you for all your help I couldn't have done it without you you're welcome there's a pleasure meeting you same here keep in touch yes sir your dad did good [Music] great job at the debate last night professor yeah it was interesting [Music] anybody interested in making 100 bucks $100 yeah just let me crack three eggs over your head with yours yeah yeah show me the hundred first can I talk to you for a minute yeah sure first I wanted to thank you for helping my dad in the second I wanted to apologize for how I acted I'm sorry I gave you so much opposition that lost perspective but I'm back on track with the Lord God used you in my life and I wanted to thank you you're welcome that's it dear yeah [Music] Rachel what are you doing Saturday afternoon you stood before creation eternity in your hand you spoke the earth and to motion my soul [Music] okay this bar right here what about it you ever been here before yeah I told you lots of times for family reunions would you look at that on the ground took 50 zombies do you remember that what when I just took the 50-cent piece from your head thank Rachel get back to when you were 10 years old you saw a 50-cent piece on the ground and someone a boy came up and grabbed it from me when you found it I do remember how did you know - my dad tell you yeah your father told me but that little boy it was me what eight years ago you and I met here at this very spot we're throwing stones into the river when you saw a 50 cent piece on the ground I came and snatched it out of your hand when you picked it up just stole it from you my dad saw the whole thing and he used that incident to show me how I needed to Christ so on that day this selfish little boy became a Christian you see Rachel God used to you in my life I wanted to say thank you welcome another little restaurant up past the bridge [Music] I'd be happy to train you to launch hey I'd like [Music] so what [Music] Oh [Music] to [Music] [Music] why [Music] I saw Lord to you surrendered I is yeah [Music] ah my soul Lord to you surrendered I [Music] [Music] the [Music] [Applause] ah it is yeah yes yeah Oh [Music] you [Music]
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