60 Minutes, 11.16.08

when was the first moment that it began to sink in that you were president of the United States do you remember uh well I'm not sure it's sunk in yet I guess I'm sort of like him I'm not sure if it has really sunk in but I I remember uh we were watching the returns and on one of the stations barack's picture came up and it said president-elect Barack Obama and I looked at him and I said you are the 44th President of the United States of America wow what a country we live [Music] in it's their first interview since that historic night and you'll hear them talk about the entire experience how their lives have changed and how he plans to handle the difficult issues facing the 44th President of the United States and we've got a lot of work to do we've got a lot of a lot of problems a lot of big challenges have there been moments when you've said what did I get myself [Applause] into I'm Leslie stall I'm Scott py I'm morle safer I'm Bob Simon I'm Steve Croft our interview with the Obamas plus Andy Rooney tonight on 60 Minutes since Barack Obama was elected the 40 4th president of the United States 12 days ago he's largely remained out of sight getting high level government briefings and conferring with his transition team but he surfaced on Friday afternoon in Chicago along with his wife Michelle to give us his first post-election interview it covers a wide range of subjects including the economy the alien automobile industry the government's $700 billion bailout program their visit to the White House the emotions of election night and the Quest for a family dog you'll hear all of it but we begin with the president-elect and his thoughts about the new job so here we are here we are how's your life changed in the last 10 days well I tell you what um there seem to be more people hovering around me that's for sure on the other hand I'm sleeping in my own bed uh over the last 10 days which is quite a treat Michelle always wakes up earlier than I do so listen to her roaming around and having the girls come in and you know jump in your bed it's a it's a great feeling yeah has this been easier than the campaign Trail well it's different um I think that during the campaign it is just a constant frenetic forward momentum uh here I'm stationary but uh the issues come to you and uh and we've got a lot of work to do we've got a lot of a lot of problems a lot of big challenges have there been moments when you've said what did I get myself into you know uh surprisingly enough I feel uh right now that I'm I'm doing what I should be doing that gives me a certain sense of calm I will say that the challenges that we're confronting are enormous and uh and there are multiple and so there are times during the course of a given day where uh you think where do I start with what have you been concentrating on this week uh couple of things number one uh I think it's important to get a national security team in place because uh transition periods uh are potentially uh times of vulnerability uh to terrorist attack uh we want to make sure that there is as seamless a transition on National Security as possible obviously the economy uh talking to top economic advisers about how we're going to create jobs how we get the economy back on track uh and and what do we do in terms of some long-term issues like energy and Healthcare uh and how do we sequence those things in a way that uh we can actually get things through Congress are you in sync with uh with secretary Paulson in terms of how the $700 billion is is being used well look uh Hank pson has worked tirelessly under some very difficult circumstances we've got an unprecedented crisis or at least something that we have not seen since the Great ression uh and I think Hank would be the first one to acknowledge that probably not everything that's been done has worked the way he had hoped it would work uh but I'm less interested in looking backwards than I am in looking forwards the government has spent almost $300 billion out of the the tarp program the money that was set aside to help the financial industry um and nothing much has changed if you look at it nothing much has changed why how it's 300 billion do why is that I think that part of the way to think about it is things could be worse I mean we could have seen a lot more bank failures over the last several months we could have seen a even more rapid deterioration of the economy uh even a bigger drop in the stock market so part of what we have to measure against is what didn't happen not just what has happened uh having said that there's no doubt that we have not been able yet to reset the confidence in the fin fincial markets and in the consumer markets and among businesses that allow the economy to move uh forward in a strong way uh and my job as president is going to be to make sure that we restore that confidence once you become president are there things that you'll change well you know I think we still have to see how this thing unfolds over the next couple of months one area that I'm concerned about and I've said this publicly is we have not focused on foreclosures and what's happening to homeowners uh as much as I would like we have the tools to do it we've got to set up a negotiation between Banks and borrowers so that people can stay in their homes that is going to have an impact on the economy as a whole and you know one thing I'm determined is that if we don't have a clear focused program for homeowners by the time I take office we will after I take office are you being consulted by secretary Paulson is telling you what's going on you know what we've done is we've assigned somebody on my transition team who interacts with them on a daily basis uh and you know we are getting the information that's required uh to and we're making suggestions in some circumstances uh about uh how we think uh they might approach some of these problems are they listening uh well you know what we'll we'll find out people are comparing this to 1932 right is that a valid comparison do you think well keep in mind that uh 1932 1933 uh the unemployment rate was 25% inching up to 30% you you had a third of the country that was Ill housed ill- clothed unemployed uh we're not going through something comparable to that but I would say that this is as bad as we've seen since then uh and if we don't take some significant steps then it could get worse you have a situation right now where you have uh General Motors which is in Dire Straits yeah may run out of cash by the end of the year maybe by the end of certainly if we believe what we read in the papers by the time you take office well let's see how this thing plays itself out uh for the Auto industry to completely collapse uh would be a disaster in this kind of environment uh not just for individual families but the repercussions across the economy would be dire uh so it's my belief that we need to provide assistance to the Auto industry but I think that it can't be a blank check so uh my hope is is that over the course of the next week between the White House and Congress the discussions are shaped around providing assistance but making sure that that assistance is conditioned on uh Labor Management suppliers lenders all the stakeholders come together with a plan what does a sustainable US Auto industry look like so that uh we are creating a a bridge alone to somewhere as opposed to a bridge loan to nowhere and that's I think what you haven't yet seen that's something that I think uh we're going to have to come up with there are a lot of people that think that uh the country would probably be better off and General Motors might be better off if it was allowed to go into bankruptcy well you know under normal circumstances that might be the case uh in the sense that you'd go through a restructuring like the Air Lines had to do in some cases and then they come out and they're still a viable operation and and they're operating even during the course of bankruptcy in this situation you could see the spigot completely shut off so that it would not potentially permit GM to get back on its feet and I think that what we have to do is to recognize that these are extraordinary circumstances Banks aren't lending as it is they're not even lending to businesses that are doing well much less businesses that are doing poorly and in that circumstance uh the usual options may not be available when the price of oil was at $147 a barrel there were a lot of spirited and and profitable discussions that were held on energy Independence now you got the price of oil under $60 right does doing something about energy is it less important now it's more important it may be a little harder politically but it's more important why well because this has been our pattern is we go from shock to train you know we oil prices go up gas prices the pump go up everybody goes into a flurry of activity and then the prices go back down and suddenly we act like it's not important and we start you know uh filling up our SUVs again and uh and as a consequence we never make any progress it's part of the addiction right uh that has to be broken now is the time to break it where is all the money going to come from to do all of these things and is there a point where just going to the treasury Department and printing more of it ceases to be an option look I think what's interesting about the time that we're in right now is that you actually have a consensus among conservative uh Republican leaning economists and liberal left leaning economists and the consensus is this that we have to do whatever it takes to get this economy moving again that we have to we're going to have to spend money now to stimulate the economy and that we shouldn't worry about the deficit next year or even the year after that short term the most important thing is that we avoid a deepening recession how high a priority are you placing on re-regulation of the financial markets I think it's a top priority I think that we have to restore a sense of trust transparency open openess in our financial system uh and keep in mind that the deregulation process it wasn't just one party uh I think there's a lot of blame to spread around uh but hopefully everybody's learned their lesson and the answer is not heavy-handed regulations that U Crush uh the entrepreneurial spirit and risk-taking of uh American capitalism that's what's made our economy great but it is to restore a sense of balance his first legislative goal will be to get Congress to pass an economic stimulus package that he hopes will create jobs and put money in the pockets of ordinary citizens construction programs to shore up the nation's creaky infrastructure a tax cut for the middle class and his first initiatives on Healthcare but some things he can do with the stroke of a pen there are a number of different things that you could do early pertaining to executive orders right uh one of them is to shut down Guantanamo Bay M another is to uh change uh interrogation methods that are used by US troops are those things that you plan to take early action on yes uh I have said repeatedly that I intend to close Guantanamo and I will follow through on that uh I've said repeatedly that America doesn't torture and I'm going to make sure that we don't torture uh those are uh those are part and parcel of an an effort to regain uh America's moral stature in the world you can give us some sense of when you might start uh redeployments out of Iraq well I've said uh during the campaign and I stick to this commitment that as soon as I take office I will call in The Joint Chiefs of Staff my National Security apparatus and we will start uh executing a plan uh that draws down our troops um particularly in light of the problems that we're having in Afghanistan uh which has continued to worsen we've got to shore up those efforts where does capturing or killing Osama Bin Laden fall I think it is a top priority for us to Stamp Out Al-Qaeda once and for all uh and I think capturing or killing Bin Laden is a critical aspect of uh stamping out Al-Qaeda uh he is not just a symbol he's also the operational leader of an organization that is planning attacks against us targets how close are you to settling on a on a cabinet well I you know I I think that I've got a pretty good idea of uh what I'd like to see but it takes some time to work those things through when are you going to make your first announcements soon next week soon you met with um Senator Clinton this week I did is she on the short list for a cabinet position you know she is somebody who I needed advice and counsel from she is uh one of the most thoughtful public officials that we have beyond that you're not getting anything out of me Steve will it be Republicans in the cabinet yes more than one you're not getting any more out of me um you've spoken to some former presidents I have any advice any good advice they gave you you know they were all incredibly gracious but I think that uh all of them recognize that there's a certain loneliness to the job that you know you'll get advice and you'll get counsel ultimately you're the person who's going to be making decisions uh and and I think that uh even now uh you know you can already feel that fact what are you reading right now briefing papers a lot of briefing papers yeah um i' I've been I've been spending a lot of time reading Lincoln there's a wisdom there and a humility uh about his approach to government even before he was president that I just find um find very helpful put a lot of his political enemies in his cabinet he did is that something you're considering well I tell you what uh I find him a very wise man have you been reading anything about the depression anything about FDR you know I have uh actually I was uh there is a u there's a new book out about FDR's first 100 days and and what you see in FDR that I I hope uh my team can uh emulate is not always getting it right but projecting a sense of confidence and a willingness to to try things and and experiment in order to get people working again and I I think that uh that's what the American people expect you know they're not expecting Miracles I think if you talk to the average person right now that they would say well look you know we're having a tough time right now we've had tough times before and we don't expect that a new president can snap his fingers and suddenly everything's going to be okay but what we do expect is that the guy's going to be straight with us we do expect that he's going to be working really hard for us we do expect that uh he's going to be thinking about uh ordinary Americans and not just the wealthy and the powerful and we do expect that uh if something doesn't work that they're going to try something else until they find something that does and you know that's the kind of Common Sense approach that I want to take uh when I take office there's been talk on Capitol Hill and a number of democratic Congressmen have proposed programs that are part of sort of a new New Deal uh the possibility of uh Reviving agencies like the home ownership loan corporation two two points I'd make on this number one um although there are some parallels to the problems that we're seeing now and what we saw back in the 30s uh no period is exactly the same and it for us to Simply recreate what existed back in the 30s in the 21st century uh I think we'd be missing the boat we've got to uh come up with solutions that are true to our times and true to this moment and that's going to be our job I think the basic principle that government has a role to play in kickstarting economy that has ground to a halt is sound I think our basic principle that this is a free market system and that that has worked for us that it creates Innovation and risk-taking I think that's a principle that we've got to hold to as well but but what I don't want to do is get bottled up in a lot of ideology and you know is this conservative or liberal my interest is finding something that works uh and whether it's coming from FDR or it's coming from Ronald Reagan if the idea is for the times then we're going to apply it and things that don't work we're going to get rid of are you going to make a lot of speeches you going to talk a lot to the American people go on television and radio and you know I'm sure I'm not sure that the American people are looking for a lot of speeches I think what they're looking for is action uh but one of the things that I do think is important is to be able to explain to the American people what you're doing and why you're doing it that is something that I think every great president has been able to do from FDR to Lincoln to John Kennedy to Eisenhower I I mean I think that they were people who were able to say uh here's the direction we're going here's why I think it's important here are the possible dangers or challenges But ultimately you know this is going to lead us to a to a better America and I I want to make sure that I can recreate a bond of trust between the presidency and the public that I think has been lost the president-elect and Mrs Obama have already been on a tour of their new home and when we come back they talk about the challenges and the excitement of moving into the most famous address in the world in 66 days Barack and Michelle Obama and their two daughters 10-year-old Malia and 7-year-old Sasha will will become the youngest first family to move into the White House since the kennedies nearly 50 years ago while the Obama transition team has been working closely with the Bush Administration to ensure an orderly transfer of power the Obama family has been working hard on a transition of their own that began with an emotional election night victory in Chicago when was the first moment that it began to sink in that you were president of the United States do you remember uh well I'm not sure it's sunk in yet yeah I guess I'm sort of like him I'm not sure if it has really sunk in but I I remember uh we were watching the returns and on one of the stations barack's picture came up and it said President elect Barack Obama and I looked at him and I said you are the 44th President of the United States of America wow what a country we live in how about that yeah yeah and then she said uh the are you going to take the girls to school in the morning I did not I didn't say that it it wasn't at that moment you made the addressing Grant Park and you brought the kids out mhm and at some point you whispered something can you remember that I said wow look at this how about that I told him good job well done to walk out there and see hundreds of thousands of hardworking folks because so many people put their energy and their hopes in into this campaign to see the outcome and and the emotion uh it was a very emotional uh evening because I think people were ready to take hold of uh this country and help move it in a different direction and you felt that the emotion of that night was fueled in part by the fact that you were the first African-American ever elected did you feel that there's no doubt that that there was a sense of emotion that I could see in people's faces and in my mother-in-law's face you know I mean you think about Michelle's mom you know who grew up uh on the west and south sides of Chicago who worked so hard to help Michelle get to where she is her brother to be successful she was sitting next to me actually as we were watching returns and she's like my grandmother was sort of a no fuss type of person and suddenly she just kind of reached out and she started holding my hand you know and kind of squeezing it and you had this sense of well what's she thinking for a black woman who grew up in the 50s in a segregated Chicago uh to watch her daughter become first lady of the United States you know I think there was that sense across the country and not unique to African-Americans I think that I think people felt that it was a sign of the enormous progress that we've made in the core decency and and generosity of the American people um which isn't to say that you know uh there were there were a number of reasons that somebody might not have voted for me but what was absolutely clear was is that whether people voted for me or against me uh that they were making the Judgment based on is this guy going to you know lead us well is this guy going to be a good president and that that was the that was my assumption walking in and and uh that's how it turned out and that felt good what was your conversation like the next morning at The Breakfast Table with the kids everyone was tired uh CU they been up until they been up but we got up and went to school uh we went to school late Barack you slept in you know so I think we were just back into the routine I mean that's been uh our our uh hopes is just to keep the girls moving it's like okay Daddy's president-elect okay you can we can get to school by 10 and we got to the school and uh the folks at the school were excited some people were cheering as we I walked the kid the kids through the the class and I remember Malia saying that's embarrassing but you know it was a pretty normal day for us and there have not been many of those the past two years were spent on the campaign Trail and before that Senator Obama split his time between their home in Chicago where Michelle and the girls lived and this very modest Department in Washington which nearly burned down so you've given up the apartment in Washington that you stayed in I used to get teased not just by Michelle but by my own staff they'd say you know you're the only senator who has a worse Department than your 25-year-old staff people eventually I think Secret Service kind of looked at me like uh you know once the building caught fire and the ceiling caved in I said but he moved back in anyway for a while after the fire shortly did you ever stay there I visited but I didn't sleep there she insisted on the hotel room I saw it I saw it long enough to know that I wasn't going to stay there yeah was this one-bedroom Studio yeah it was it was sort of a one-bedroom it it had uh kind of the Vintage college dorm Community organizer Community organ bottle feel to it it reminded me of your a little better version of the apartment you were in when we first started dating yes yeah which was uh right near Harold right near Harold's Chicken chck yeah yeah that's when I had the car with the the hole the hole in it and you could see the sidewalk because the Rusted airing so that was my side I would look and see the ground going past and I still married her that's how I knew she loved me it it wasn't for my money they got their first look at their new home last Monday when the president and Laura Bush invited the Obamas to the White House which has 130 more rooms than that Old Washington Apartment what was it like going through there oh first of all uh Laura Bush was just so gracious she is a really sweet person and couldn't have been more uh excited and enthusiastic about the tour so that was wonderful and her entire team their team has been working closely just to make us feel welcome but the uh the White House is it's beautiful it is awe inspiring it is um what I felt walking through there was that it it it is a great gift and an honor to be able to live here and you know I we want to make sure that we're upholding what that house uh stands for but I couldn't help but envisioning the girls running into their rooms and you know running down the hall and um with a dog and you know you start picturing your life there and um our hopes is that the White House will feel open and fun and full of life and energy um sleepovers and sleepovers I know that from talking you and you've said that this has put a lot of uh you know the Brock's involvement in in politics has put strains in your marriage from time to time he's about to take over the most pressure-packed job in the world but he's also going to be home right oh yeah he's going to be he's got a big office at home now he will have home office um you know this this entire year and a half has brought us closer together as a family and we managed to stay close and become even closer with Barack gone most of an entire twoyear period and now we get to be together under the one roof um having dinners together and you know I Envision the kids coming home from school and being able to run across the way to the Oval Office and see their dad before they start their homework and having breakfast and he'll be there to tuck them in at night and you know again you know there will be moments of of of deep seriousness and and Times of of great Focus but you know we'll be together uh doing it and that that that gives me a reason to be very excited does your dad do this every weekend no le but that's not the only thing that's about to change for the Obamas when we first met them two years ago in Chicago everything was much simpler yeah my grandfather he prided himself on being the king of Sandwich making I can remember the first time we went to your house we were greeted at the door by the girls they were a little smaller then a couple of years younger but that part certainly has to have changed I mean you can't get in the car and drive wherever you want all over Chicago right yeah I remember the first time we interviewed we just drove down right near mom's house right that's right you did got out of the car walked around your mother's house yeah that's a little harder to do now you told me that when you went off to Washington and made the decision to live there when you came back to Chicago you had certain chores that you had to perform you had to wash the dishes and and make your bed are you free now on that front well certainly there's going to be somebody else to wash the dishes and make your ped yes I you know if you want to there there sometimes it's soothing to to wash the dishes since when was it ever soothing for you to wash dishes you know when I had to do it I'd make it into a soothing thing the thing you have to remember Steve is that um you know the interesting part about this year is that it has slowly transitioned us into this so today doesn't feel as normal as it did yesterday if we had compared it to the January before his he announced um it would seem truly odd but we've gradually you know had more and more changes and I think for us that's helped us get adjusted to it so today isn't a shock one of the the great joys of this campaign is the seeing how the girls have adjusted to this thing they have stayed their normal cheerful happy courteous uh Curious selves and that was one of my biggest worries uh and remains one of my biggest worries you know when we think about I know Michelle and I have talked about this a lot how do we just maintain that precious normaly in our two girls uh and you know cuz right now they're not self-conscious they're you know they don't have an attitude and I think one of our highest priorities over the next four years is retaining that if if at the end of four years just from a personal standpoint we can say they are who they are uh they they remain the great Joys that they are uh and this hasn't you know created a whole bunch of uh problems for them then I think we're going to feel pretty good how has your life changed in the last 10 days you know it's calmed down a bit I mean we're we're back into more of a routine there's still some things we're not adjusted to like what like what do you want what are you me not being able to take a walk oh well you know no I the I mean those are things that um as much as he does so I guess I don't miss it yeah I mean you know you want to go for a walk I do I I'd love to take you for a walk although it's cold today but I wouldn't go with you I know uh but you know that's something that I don't think I'll ever get used to I mean the loss of anonymity and this is not a complaint this is part of what you sign up for but you know being able to just wander around the neighborhood I can't go to my own bar barber shop now I've got to have my barber come uh to some undisclosed location to cut my hair you know the the the small routines of Life uh that keep you connected I think uh some of those are being lost one of the challenges I think that we're going to be wrestling with is how to stay pretty normal because we said this before the campaign uh and I I believe this I I actually think that uh we are as close to what normal folks go through and and what their lives are like is just about anybody who's been elected president recently hanging on to that is something that's important Michelle helps on that because she's she's just a sensible person I know you've said that your first priority is to be mom and chief yes you're a Harvard Law School grad yourself in the Princeton grad you were a high-powered executive how long do you give her knocking around that big house before she starts to want to put an imprint on the job of being first lady I I think Michelle is going to design uh her her own role I think she's going to set her own path but here's one thing I know about Michelle she's serious when she talks about being a mom that's why our girls are so wonderful uh I'd love to take credit for it but this is the one who deserves most of the credit well the thing we we've learned you know as as we've watched this campaign is that uh people women are capable of doing more than one thing well at the same time and I've you know had to juggle being Mom and Chief and having a career for a long time uh the primary focus for the first year will be making sure that the kids make it through the transition uh but there are many issues that I care deeply about I care about military families and the work family balance issue I care about education I both Barack and I um believe that we can have an impact in the DC area um you know in terms of making sure we're contributing to the community that we immediately live in that's always been something that we've tried to do whether it's in our own neighborhoods or uh in the schools that we've attended so there's there's plenty to do um did you seriously consider sending the girls to public school you know we're still in the process of figuring out that transition and what we have asked people to understand is that the decision that we make will be based on the best interest of the girls we haven't made that decision yet um you know we we want that to be personal uh process so uh and people have been really good about respecting that who else will be moving into the White House with them that part of the story in a moment the president-elect has a lot of decisions to make in the weeks and months ahead and some Promises to Keep one of them is to his daughters when they began lobbying him hard two years ago to get a dog he put them off by saying we'll get one when we move into the White House and the girls haven't forgotten how things come in on the dog front the dog the dog front we're we're on calm mode on the dog front because the deal with a dog was that we would get the dog um after we got settled because as responsible owners we I don't think it would be good to get a dog in the midst of transition so when we settle get in a routine we think about late late late winter early spring we're gonna get the dog now we cut that deal with the kids before the America knew about it so they're they're good with it they know we you know so although Americans uh they're ready for us to get the they are ready B they are we put the paper down here just in case I was wondering what brought it today I thought it was some trick for the lighting or something but uh it's about dogs that's good do you have a special transition team for the dog or are you just doing that uh with this is a family of we're getting a lot of suggestions though yeah are very uh people are sending suggestions and uh and we're taking it all under enisman there's been a lot of talk about you you talked about your mother-in-law is she moving in with you well I don't tell my mother-in-law what to do uh but you I'm I'm not stupid that's why I got elected for president man so uh she can if she wants but she sure can if she wants uh she's been that I think it's fair to say that uh Marian Robinson is one of the unsung heroes of this campaign we couldn't have done it without her because she uh retired looked after the girls gave Michelle confidence that somebody was going to be there when Michelle what was on the road yeah she's just been a unbelievable uh support uh for all of us during this process and uh you know she she likes her own space you know she doesn't like a lot of fuss around her and like it or not there's some fuss in the white house uh but uh but we hope that she comes so you have a new dog and your mother-in-law moving it Steve I'm not going to compare my mother-in-law to a new dog you're much more excited about your mother-in-law I how how do you get along with your mother-in-law man the way these questions are going I think I need to give you some tips we get along fine um I have one last question is president of the United States uh what can you do or what do you plan to do about getting a college football playoff for the national championship this is important look excuse me for a second please don't mind me I think any sensible person would say that if you've got a bunch of teams who play throughout the season and many of them have one loss or two losses there there's no clear decisive winner that we should be creating a playoff system eight teams that would be three rounds uh to determine a national champion it would it would add three extra weeks to the season you could trim back on the regular season I I don't know any serious fan of college football who has disagreed with me on this uh so um I'm going to throw my weight around a little bit I I think it's the right thing to do for Andy Rooney There's No Business Like the newspaper business although I might lose an argument claiming that I am one I think of myself as a newspaper man first I do write a newspaper column that appears in a lot of newspapers and I wouldn't trade those for all the stations that broadcast is television commentary the money I trade right here in my CBS office we get eight newspapers every morning can't say I memorize all of them but I read a lot of what's in those papers I worked briefly for a newspaper before World War 2 and on the strength of this weak Association I got a job with the Army newspaper the stars and stripes in London in 1942 it was a very good professional newspaper with a staff of reporters and editors who in civilian life had worked for major newspapers in big cities all across the United States I was easily the least experienced staff member and I was lucky that I didn't get fired before I learned how to do it I suppose it's partly at least because I do think of myself first as a newspaper man that I worry about the newspaper business Things Are not going well for them too many papers are going out of business we've all been reading about the decline of newspapers for Years first radio then television and now the internet all compete with newspapers there's been a steady decline in the circulation of most newspapers but it's strange because there's still no decline in the faith that people put in their newspaper readers check their newspaper every morning to see whether what they saw on television the night before for is really true we read our newspapers too for all the good pieces of information that television has no time for newspapers are subjected to a kind of scrutiny that television news is not if it's on television you don't cut it out save it and check the facts later television news is on the screen one minute and go on the next we're lucky that television journalism has been as good and reliable as it is because of operatives like Ed wer kronite Tom broka Tim russer Bob Sheaffer Peter Jennings and countless others but it is not the same as print journalism there are more pictures on television that's about it I'm Leslie stall we'll be back next week with another edition of 60 minutes

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Published: Thu Nov 04 2010