6 Fatal Flaws In Mormonism [2019] (CES Letter Breakdown)

is Mormonism completely made-up how can we prove it's fake is it possible what is the CES letter I've talked about something called the CES letter on my podcast before but I haven't done it justice on my main channel before so let's take a look at the CES letter and look at the proof that Mormonism is fabricated let's get into it [Music] first let's talk about what the CES letter is it's a letter that was written to the Mormon Church by a man named Jeremy Runnells it's really long like now I think it's up to 114 pages or something and it was just a list of damning questions that this ex-mormon sent to the Mormon Church I mean these questions completely debunk Mormonism you have to go through some serious mental gymnastics to get around the questions now the CES letter is available for download online but I believe in supporting artists if possible and this dude is an artist I mean the amount of research he put into this is ridiculous so if you're interested you can go buy a copy on Amazon it split up into different sections we've got a section specifically dedicated to errors in the Book of Mormon problems with the translations the first vision the Book of Abraham polygamy prophets testimony and spiritual witness temples and Freemasonry science and others it's a very comprehensive book okay let's take a look at a few questions from the CES letter and discuss here's probably my favorite question from the entire thing it's the very first question under the Book of Mormon section number one what are 1769 King James Version edition errors doing in the Book of Mormon a purported ancient text errors which are unique to the 1769 edition that Joseph Smith owned the letter goes on to detail the exact errors that he's talking about I really can't do it justice you guys should get a copy of this and read it for yourself but he cites multiple examples of it here's the short version when the King James Version was being written in the early 1600s sometimes they'd insert words to make it easier to understand he points out in the CES letter that we know which words are because they're italicized in the King James Bible but the Book of Mormon was supposed to be an ancient book completely independent of the King James Version of the Bible the gold plates that Joseph Smith quote/unquote translated were supposedly written between 600 BCE and 421 C II that's long before 1604 when the translation of the King James Bible started why are there known errors from the King James Bible found in the book of Mormon okay let's take a look at the next question I'm not going in order I'm just picking out some of my favorites number two DNA analysis has concluded that Native Americans do not originate from the Middle East or from the Israelites but rather from Asia why did the church change the following section in the introduction page in the 2006 edition of The Book of Mormon shortly after the DNA results were released they took a passage that says the Lamanites and they are the principal ancestors of the american indians and they changed it to say the Lamanites and they are among the ancestors of american indians by changing that passage it's basically a subtle acknowledgement that there was an error in the claims of the Book of Mormon it claimed that Native Americans were descended from ancient Israelites there was no way to disprove that at the time back in the 1830s when this was written because we didn't know anything about DNA but we do now now we can unequivocally prove claims made in the Book of Mormon as wrong and this isn't the only claim by the Book of Mormon that's proven wrong by science there's a whole science section so let's skip to the science section and take a look at some of those questions number three if Adam and Eve were the first humans how do we explain the dozen or so other hominid species who lived and died 35,000 to 2.4 million years before Adam when did those guys stop being human that's similar to a question I asked of Jehovah's Witnesses in my last video though this isn't really just about Mormonism it's more a criticism of young Earth Creationism more generally and young earth creationists do have answers for this stuff their answer is believe the Bible over anything else even your own observation which is an awful way to live your life if you can independently verify that something is false then believing it just because some book says it's true is not a good way to get to truth a little further down on the page he lists some other things that have been discredited by science including but not limited to the Tower of Babel which is integral to the Mormon Church a global flood and Noah's Ark one of my biggest problems with the whole Noah's Ark situation and even the Adam and Eve's story is the fact that you can't populate the earth with just two people in adam and eve's case you can't do it with just eight people either in Noah's case out of curiosity I looked this up how many people would it take to repot callate the earth or how many people would we want to send to Mars if we want to populate the place for humans it basically works off of a rule of fives it could be possible maybe with just 50 people everybody would have to have as many children as possible with everybody else so monogamy would not be possible there'd have to be breeding councils to try to maximize genetic diversity because if you mate with somebody who's too genetically similar to you then there will be birth defects and that's why it's absolutely impossible for Cain to have taken his sister as his wife I don't care about the moral implications of it so much as I care about the fact that it just wouldn't have worked I mean the moral implications are bad enough but you just can't populate the earth with your sister it's literally impossible now at five hundred people monogamy still wouldn't be possible there would still need to be breeding councils but it's a little more doable at that point and at five thousand people monogamy would be possible but polygamy would be preferred breeding councils probably wouldn't be necessary it's more of a rule of thumb than a hard and fast rule but I can promise you that it's not possible to repopulate the earth with eight people and certainly not two siblings okay before we move on to number four I have to give you a little background in the Book of Abraham the story goes a traveling salesman came across Joseph Smith's house selling some old Egyptian hieroglyphics on papyrus and he got everybody in the church to gather their money together to buy them so he bought the ancient Egyptian papyrus and then he proceeded to quote/unquote translate it he claimed it was another holy book called the Book of Abraham remember this is hieroglyphics it was pretty much a set of pictures used to communicate a message so Joseph Smith copied some of the pictures down that he saw and he told this story about what it said the Book of Abraham talks about Abraham's life including but not limited to his travels to Canaan and Egypt a vision he had and some other stuff so if we get the originals that Joseph Smith purported to quote unquote translate then we'd be able to verify one way or another if Joseph Smith really did have something special there right we have Egyptologist around today that could actually translate that stuff for realsies instead of for pretend Z's and we could finally put this issue to rest proving if Joseph Smith was telling the truth and really did find an additional book of the Bible so what happened to the texts laughter Joseph Smith quote/unquote translated it and copied some of the hieroglyphics down he donated them to a museum which then burned down they were lost forever except we found the exact hieroglyphics in storage in another museum years later turns out they didn't burn with the rest of the stuff in that museum fire how do we know it's the same stuff that Joseph Smith was reading from because we matched up the hieroglyphics that he copied down with the ones we found on the papyrus the Mormon Church has confirmed that they're the original text that Joseph Smith used to quote-unquote translate the Book of Abraham so now we can actually examine the texts and figure out if he was accurate now that we've gone through that little history let's read the question from the CES letter number four Egyptologists have translated the source material for the Book of Abraham and have found it to be nothing more than a common pagan Egyptian funerary text for a deceased man named Whore around the 1st century CE he in other words it was a common breathing permit that the Egyptians buried with their death it has nothing to do with Abraham or anything Joseph Smith claimed in his translation for the Book of Abraham how do you square that with your beliefs like I said the LDS Church has confirmed that they are in fact the same text that Justice Smith use so how do they square that with their beliefs well they give an answer to this question here's their answer when Joseph Smith used the word translate what he actually meant was interpret maybe the text didn't say what he said they did but God gave him a message through those texts even if it isn't at all what it was saying so Joseph Smith was reading a common funerary breathing permit but God was providing a full-blown story through those hieroglyphics so it would be like me reading a Dora the Explorer book in Spanish even though I can't read Spanish and claiming that it was a message given to me by God claiming that God was naming me as his prophet and that the book told a story about ancient Israel but then when somebody else reads it they see that it's just a Dora the Explorer book the whole situation is almost comically transparent and the fact that the leadership thinks they can push this twisted-up interpretation of events and not lose people is comical too here's another from the Book of Abraham section number 5 the Book of Abraham teaches an incorrect Newtonian view of universe these Newtonian astronomical concepts mechanics and models of the universe have since been succeeded and substantially modified by the 20th century Einsteinian physics what we find in the Book of Abraham and the official scriptures of the LDS Church regarding science reflects a Newtonian world concept just as the Catholic Church's timaya cosmology was displaced by the Copernican and Newtonian world model however the 19th century canonized Newtonian worldview has since been displaced by Einsteins twentieth century science see people basing their beliefs off of the Bible have been justifying the Bible's scientific inaccuracies for centuries it's a product of its time or they were communicating a message they couldn't understand the best way they could the problem with the Book of Abraham is a fact that it was based on flawed knowledge from the time they make claims that would only make sense if the world worked the way they thought it worked at the time there's really no way to twist it around and make it make sense from another perspective if God was trying to communicate this message then he should have been able to reveal the facts about reality instead of revealing information that was completely based off of what society understood at the time aside from that why are there other ancient biblical texts written from a first-century perspective where it never once mentions Newtonian physics or anything like it but this ancient text supposedly written around the same timeframe does talk about things from a Newtonian perspective I really think that the reason Mormonism has so many members is because they don't know about the CES letter okay let's take a look at one last question this is coming straight from the CES letter quote Joseph Smith used the same magic device or Ouija board that he used during his treasure hunting days he put a rock called a peep stone in his hat and put his face in the Hat to tell his customers the location of buried treasure on their property he also used the same method for translating the Book of Mormon well the gold plates were covered placed in another room or even buried in the woods the gold plates were not used for the Book of Mormon we have today and the Mormon Church admits that now this one is really damning as the question mentions Joseph Smith famously used to do treasure hunting stuff where he would take money from people to find buried treasure and they'd come back to him later and tell him that he fell the treasure but there was a hex on it if they tried to dig for it it would sink deeper into the ground and it was lost forever then he'd keep their money but he used the exact same method for the treasure hunting stuff sticking his face in a hat with a stone in it both to find the buried treasure and to quote unquote translate the Book of Mormon he was an obvious fraud and as far as I'm concerned this one wraps it up for me they say you just have to have faith well I'm sorry I just don't I don't believe without evidence in fact there's actually evidence to the contrary in this case why would I believe something that's against all evidence it really does not add up okay that's all I've got for you tell me what you guys think which of these was the most damning for Mormonism which of these six list items seals it for you let me know in the comments I honestly think the first one is the most damning for me why are there King James Version errors in the Book of Mormon seriously it doesn't make any sense at all anyways if you like what I do and you want to see me continue to do it then don't forget to check out my patreon YouTube is very up-and-down and completely unreliable it's very stressful worrying if I'll be able to pay rent every month or not so if you want to support me you can do it through patreon you can also support me by checking out my products on teespring I have a bunch of cool shirts in mugs and whatnot in fact I have 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Keywords: the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints, mormon, church, ces letter, jeremy runnels, joseph smith, mormonism (religion), fatal flaws, ces, letter, religion, lds

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Length: 13min 47sec (827 seconds)

Published: Sun Jun 09 2019

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[u/Musk-Generation42]

Book of Abraham translation was my nail in the coffin.

Why wouldn’t god let a prophet know what he was translating wasn’t the actual “Book of Abraham”? Because he was improvising as he went through the text.

BOM through Gold Plates Translation narrative was buried by the church with a bunch a paintings which cover up the truth about the stone in the hat.