4.5 - Visions Are Useless to Humans and Dont Make Sense, Revisiting Visions | Genshin lore & Theory

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Hey guys whats up, Aru. Do we really need  visions? No, let me rephrase that. Humanity   doesn't need Visions. They don't need it to  fight treasure hoarders, or hilichurls. Don't   need it for the fatui, and don't need it for the  Abyss or Celestia. In today’s video we’re gonna   discuss a theory and try to absolutely destroy the  sole reason why we play this game. Starting with   Xianyun’s analysis on humans’ reliance on visions.  Attaining the ability to manipulate elemental   energy through self-discipline (basically  cultivation). Why are visions being granted   to humans only in the first place? Revisiting  on vision lore from before, what it is now,   and what comparisons we can make. Finally,  whether or not humans would need visions,   or if visions are even necessary  to use elemental power. As always,   timestamps down below for you guys who want to  listen to a specific segment, lets get started. Xianyun story Starting with how this little curious   theory started, Xianyun’s vision story goes over a  little interaction with a non-vision holder. Where   she meets with a young farmer who was fending  off some descriptively feeble bandits. And in   this particular interaction, she observed the  farmer's complete change in demeanor after seeing   an external object that symbolizes a form of  power. After noticing that Xianyun had a vision,   the farmer’s tone and posture of caution from  a defensive stance instantly changed, to now a   very confident fighting soldier with nothing more  than a farmer's plow. Xianyun then notices after   the event that the farmer would only muster  his courage after noticing Xianyun’s vision,   or maybe even anyone with a vision. Granted  Xianyun did help unarm one of the bandits of   one of his daggers, the majority of the work was  done by the farmer himself. Bear in mind we don't   really know how many bandits there were, and how  many knives each bandit was holding. After that   seemingly intense battle between a farmer and  some bandits. Xianyun then lectures the farmer   to be more confident of his own skill, and that  she barely helped him. She then makes a conjecture   of the level of influence that an external object  like a visio can give people that much courage.   When in reality, self-courage & confidence is the  only thing that is needed to face adversity. That   reliance on external objects to give you courage  is a huge folly in the fundamentals of self worth,   and recognizing one’s own power. Compared to  relying on your own ability to use what you   have and facing problems head on. This can all  be found in Xianyun’s vision story by the way,   and is where our theory of humanity  not needing visions comes into play. Elemental abilityNow, It's worth noting that  Xianyun as well as other beings that are   classed as “Adepti '' are non-humans, but are  able to manipulate elemental energy. And that   non-humans that can manipulate the elements have  what's called an “inner eye”. This is based on the   developer’s notes with Xiao’s and the adepti’s  inspiration from the Xianren or “immortals”.   Which are mythical and supernatural beings with  a connection to the heavenly realms in Daoism.   As well as the quote of Sun Wukong stating  that “All who have nine orifices can achieve   immortality through self-discipline”. This goes  deeper into the practice of cultivation to extend   one’s lifespan. Which is a long arduous  process of meditation, self improvement,   learning, and practice to reach transcendence or  immortality. Harnessing qi is also an aspect of   cultivation, and is something that anyone  can achieve, IF THEY PUT IN THE EFFORT.   Theres also genre’s of cultivation or Wuxia &  XIanxia which goes even deeper into who, what,   and why the person is cultivating, but that's  a different topic. For the context of Genshin,   living beings like the adepti who are animals  and or non-humans that can manipulate elemental   energy. Are made with individual separate  purposes in the world of Teyvat compared to   humans. But because the Adepti sometimes  or all the time appear in human form,   they then need to fit with the norm that their  “inner eye” for manipulating the elements,   should be represented externally in the form of a  vision. The same can be said for other adepti like   Xiao, and Ganyu. Ganyu can even reach a point  in her self-discipline training where visions   won't be needed anymore, which goes to the level  of Xianyun and the Archons who would need fake   visions. For humans, the best examples are Grand  Master Arundalyn and Jiangxuei. A grandmaster who   displayed great strength and combat prowess, who  knows how to practice self-discipline, but does   not have a burning wish for Celestia requires  a vision. And a vision holder who renounced his   vision after doing “bad things”. Other examples  of vision users that use other means to channel   elemental energy are Yaoyao and Xiangling who were  trained in the adepti arts by Madam ping. I know   that they’re much more vague compared to Ganyu &  Xiao’s adepti power. But I guess Hoyo didn't want   to spoil the value the humans and their visions  have to Celestia and the plot. So humans, animals,   and all manner of living beings can and have the  ability to manipulate the elements, so long as   they themselves practice a form of cultivation or  atleast based on the devs; self-discipline. But   pursuing such a high level of self mastery  and autonomy of elemental manipulation,   and immortality to extend your life would reach  the highest form of ascension. Of which you would   one day achieve a power to manipulate the world  itself, virtually becoming a descender in Teyvat.   Something that has caused more than enough  change & destruction in the world for at least   3 times already. You can think of the traveler  as achieving the highest form of Xian as well,   and regaining our power is a valid reason  to be called a descender. But why is it that   only some people are given visions? What's the  outlying message that humans need to understand   to be better humans? What would happen if all  humans were to practice cultivation? And why   do humans specifically have a purpose that is  higher than an adepti, or maybe even archons?   All of this isn't about how visions are gained,  but rather why humans and frankly the majority,   if not the entirety of the game is centered  around visions, allogenes, or genshin. So why do humans get visions anyway? Funnily  enough humans were meant to serve a higher purpose   than that of the adepti. Even though humans  themselves worship the adepti as well as mythical   elemental creatures as deities and gods. The name  genshin in the game, although is kind of lost in   translation, means the same thing. “Yuanshen”  in Chinese and “Genshin” in Japanese both mean   “original gods”. But in English it's translated to  Allogenes which is from Gnosticism. Gnosticism is   linked to Celestia, which is all common knowledge  at this point for genshin lore, atleast now you   know . But the ties of having visions are too  linear in my opinion and that the one end goal   you would reach if you pursue it is, to ascend  to godhood and be part of Celestia. But we don't   exactly know what that means apart from having  fulfilled your duty using your gift IE visions. Is   ascending to godhood only exclusive to Celestia?  Or is godhood being blocked by Celestia. Visions   also extend to Celestia’s gods which allows them  to receive even more abundant gifts in return,   after you reach full potential, theoretically  to ascend to godhood. So maybe humanity’s higher   purpose than any adepti, and possibly even higher  than the Archons. Is to find it within themselves   (passion, ambition, deepest wishes, burning  desires) to be worthy of these visions as gifts.   And repay the gods by the end of their own journey  with something more abundant; that is the highest   form of ascension. An example of such reflection  of wishes is Yanfei’s vision being put on an   adeptal weighing scale. No amount of mora could  balance it. All except for her handwritten book   of legal notations. This isn't the best example  to gauge a vision’s significance to humans as a   whole. But it could show a reflection of Yanfei’s  vision which is equal to the passion & wish she   has for protecting the legal matters of Liyue,  plus a lot of mora. So theoretically the same   can be said for each unique vision’s value which  is a reflection of the person's wish. Vanessa’s   journey also highlights ascension, and at the  end of that journey she gets to go to Celestia,   and then comes back out as a hawk. So is that  the highest ascension happening to Vanessa? Or   is it an instance of being barred from godhood?  Interestingly, thaumaturges from Liyue say that   visions and constellations that allogenes possess  are comparable to a microcosmic orbit or a tiny   cosmos, that is to say that each vision holder  carries a tiny universe with them through their   constellations. Of which these constellations can  change fates or destinies thousands of years away   from today. The fatui states that the stars are a  lie, and that the sky is fake. While we also have   accounts from the Narzissenkruez Ordo that visions  are similar to “selling yourself to the fate of   the world - to someone named “Hairmamene ''. And  to be given a vision is to lose the chance to walk   the correct path”. This Makes visions seem more  like contracts, or representation of the allogene   or genshin. For you to complete or fulfill  until the end of your life rather than gifts   from the gods. But we know that Celestia is being  suspicious from the start, and that visions are   also called god’s eyes as well. Almost like every  person’s wish or potential to become gods, IE   vision is being monitored to make sure they use it  for the same wish they had when it was given. But   also maybe to keep them from becoming a being that  can change the order of the world, or its laws. Losing a vision would mean losing your  ambition, which was highlighted in Inazuma’s   story quest while the Vision Hunt Decree was still  ongoing. Those that lose their visions would lose   the passion for their goal which is the wish that  allowed them to be given a vision in the first   place. So taking visions is comparable to taking  someone’s wish away, a wish that they traded for   the fate of the world. The Vision Hunt Decree was  able to take 99 visions, and almost 100 if not   for the intervention of the Traveler during 2.0.  Some who lose their vision go through memory loss,   loss of ambition, hallucination, and lose their  general drive for their desire, as well as losing   “obsessions” in life. It would seem like all  hope is lost for anyone who loses their vision.   But for some, losing or even renouncing a vision  wouldn't affect them in any way, and maybe even   free them from the shackles of their wish.  Diluc lost his ambition after crepus’ death,   and had a different drive to find out about his  father’s death using a delusion. Both of which   did not affect him negatively, but he did go back  using his vision later on. Based on what happened   with Diluc, it seems he didn't lose ambition,  but his ambitions changed from being a knight of   Favonius and making his father proud, to looking  into his father’s death & avenging him. But he   never lost his drive, only the direction of  where it went. The same can be said for other   NPCs in 2.0 Story quest like Tejima, Kurosawa, and  Domon. Who have lost and regained their visions,   but have pursued a different path, as well as  still having a semblance of elemental sensitivity   and ability to use the elements; Jiangxuei is  one such example. But a better & more recent   example is Tartaglia, who lost his connection and  control of his vision which led to him giving it   to us. So it is possible that visions only apply  to the most recent wish that a person had that   activated the vision. Which means it's also  possible, albeit harder to harness elements   without having to rely on visions, as well as  getting 2 consecutive visions if you could end   up with 2 consecutive wishes. But if you know how  to harness the elements on your own, you wouldn't   need a vision or be part of Celestia’s divine  pyramid scheme. Visions are more like catalysts   to channel elements than a straight up bestowing  of powers anyway. Some who have lost & regained   their visions don't seem affected either, as  long as they're still headstrong, and have   enough willpower to move forward. For Itto and  Kuki Shinobu, they both seem to be fine, and more   or less just annoyed that their visions were taken  from them. Although, Itto is an oni, and Shinobu   studied as a shrine maiden, so they have that  going for them in terms of spirit and will power.   But again the idea that as long as you practice  self-discipline, rely on your own abilities, being   headstrong & having enough willpower as mentioned  by Xianyun still holds true. And anyone who loses   their ambition, can still find a different path  with a similar level of desire that they once had.   So elemental ability isn't locked to visions, but  is locked to one’s self discipline. Regardless if   humans have a higher purpose or not. If animals  who possess less purpose in Teyvat can become   adepti, then humans can also possess elemental  powers without relying on Celestia. Even the   lowest of beings like hilichurls can use elemental  powers, the abyss, and other creatures can use   elemental energy without visions. Another  case is delusions which are bootleg visions   that theoretically, if you put rough research  into; might end up becoming a stable way to use   elements. But again, why rely on external sources  when you can practice it yourself? So humans most   certainly can achieve elemental mastery without  possessing a vision, or relying on a wish that   Celestia likes. And even better, since you're  not tied to Celestia, and your elemental mastery   extends to every other ambition you have, and  not only to the obsession you have which leads to   getting visions. But if this is true and humanity  can reach elemental mastery with practice,   the next question would be. Why are visions given  in the first place, and why make humans reliant   on visions and vision holders when humanity can  and likely have the best potential for not only   individual strength but also elemental energy?  For that we need to look at Celestia itself. The Seven were established long ago after the  Archon wars, when the “Usurper” had its functions   ruined. Which seemed like a last effort to save  the world from its own resentment and loathing.   This could be referring to the abyss, and this  last effort could be a way to keep the world from   being swallowed by that abyss. The Usurper  & the one who came after (whoever that is),   created the Gnoses while also driving the  fragments of the Primordial which could mean   the 4 shades to devour each other. In Venti’s  tale of the Primeval gods, like Purusha, Pangu,   and Ymir. 3 Primeval gods with similar primordial  creation stories, being sacrificed to create the   world. The 4th shade, possibly Istaroth, we still  don't know where and if they are still alive,   but likely possesses the knowledge of that past.  Along with that, was the Seven thrones of heaven,   whose Archons would be seated and oversee Teyvat’s  lands. And when a person’s wish is great enough,   or reaches the heavens. These Seven ``overseers”  would impart a shattered shard of their mastery   to that person. This shard of mastery comes in  the form of a vision. And although the archons   themselves don't know who or what wish has  reached the heavens, it is still their duty   to give these visions to those fervent people.  Because the duty of allogenes carries over to a   bigger duty that Celestia has for Teyvat, at least  that's what it's implied from what we know. Which   is possibly how Kazuha obtained an electro vision  for a brief moment in time. Even though Ei herself   isn't responsible for who gets a vision, she  still gives it as a response to Celestia’s law. Today visions are still being gifted to those with  fervent wishes that are heard by Celestia. But we   now have 2 conflicts related to that. VIsions that  are Hydro are only given to those as a reward for   their hard work instead of a wish to be fulfilled.  Hydro visions today come from the Hydro Sovereign,   Neuvillette. As to before assumed to  be from Focalor, who was inside the   Oratrice of Fontaine. Furina is the latest  example of Neuvillette bestowing a vision,   and a pretty unique one at that. One that  allows for manipulation of both Pneumaousia.   Another different yet interesting case is Electro  visions which only stopped appearing for a year.   This is more due to the VIsion Hunt Decree being  enacted a year ago, than being from Ei staying   in the Plane of Euthymia for 400 years. This  could be because Ei was straying from her path   to eternity and creating the thousand eyed god.  Which is different from Makoto’s way of handling   Inazuma and its people. Of which she also implies  that Archons aren't the ones who determine if   visions and wishes are granted or denied. This is  solidified and further elaborated by Neuvillette’s   statement that the Archons give visions (which  are shards of their mastery) anonymously to   anyone that only Celestia deems worthy. Regarding  other dragons like Apep, I don't think they’re the   one’s giving visions, but the elemental power  I still think originates from dragons. This   would also make sense why only vision holders can  use waypoints, and likely Statues of the Seven. Finally we have Masterless Visions which is  an interesting way for visions to be reused,   albeit very rarely. Based on the current  4.5 information we have, masterless visions   seem to function similarly with new visions but  your wish would need to align with the previous   holder’s. So a carrier of a masterless vision  may be able to have it for years on end without   activating it simply because they don't have  a burning desire or wish that Celestia deems   worthy for that specific vision. While someone  who just picks up a random masterless vision   but is already in the process of becoming a  worthy allogene, or has a similar wish, may just   have that as their vision instead of one that's  factory new. So you could virtually harvest all   the masterless visions, and try resonating with  it, and hopefully activate it. But you would need   to constantly have that same wish or obsession  that the previous holder once had with that   vision. Sadly, we only have Ningguang, Mona, and  Kazuha as examples which are already related to   the people they received their masterless visions  from (except Ningguang, that was just straight   luck). Mona received hers from her teacher,  Barbeloth. While Kazuha’s masterless vision was   from his friend. They both had different ways of  activating it too; Mona’s seemed like an already   active vision that functioned as a teaching aid  that eventually became her own as time went by.   While Kazuha’s was a brief moment of resonating  with his friend’s wish, that is “to brave the   lighting’s glow”. Which could be that any powerful  force must have another opposing force to stop it,   or that there should be those that strive to  level with the power of gods. At Least that's my   interpretation. It's worth noting that resonating  with a masterless vision is a very rare case,   since no one knows what the masterless vision’s  wish could be unless properly informed and or is   related to it at an emotional level. Just like  Kazuha’s deep relationship with his friend or   Mona’s relation to Barbeloth’s ideals. The other  is Ningguang who activated a masterless vision   because she wanted to sell masterless visions as  commodities. I guess that was also a rare case   that she resonated with someone who also had  the mind for business opportunities. Probably   not for selling visions, but to make profit  of everything in the land? But again, that   strategy to gain elemental mastery is still tied  to Celestia’s contract with gifts and ascension. With all that said, we can go back to Xianyun’s  words of wisdom and some quite old dev notes about   XIao from the first segment. Anyone and anything  obtains the ability to manipulate the elements. So   long as they put in the time, effort, practice,  and self-discipline. The same way cultivation   or more specifically, achieving Xianren or  immortality “All who have nine orifices can   achieve immortality through self-discipline”.  Humans, animals and any other non-human with   9 orifices can be able to manipulate elemental  energy. Without having to stick with a single   burning desire or wish that Celestia allows for  a vision. Without being part of Celestia’s grand   plan of ascension. And also being able to use your  mastery without relying on a shard of mastery,   a god’s eye that ties your obsessive wish, for the  fate of the world, to someone named Hairmemene. So   now let me ask you, would you be so reliant on  your single wish or obsessive desire? To submit   yourself to the fate of the world, and believe in  the fabricated stars in the sky? Or are you going   to pursue the art of self discipline and achieve  your own form of Xianren? Becoming immortal,   and to be a master of the elements, without  answering to any other master than yourself?   Or is that too high a price for the ability to  change the world without selling your own soul?   Are visions a strategy to keep humanity from  achieving the highest form of ascension? Or does   all of humanity possess the latent power of being  a descender? I think we already knew the answer   from the start. And was already in the name of the  game; Genshin Impact, the Impact of Original Gods. So there we go, revisiting my old vision  video with the new 4.5 lore information,   and making a new theory from it. If you managed  to make it all the way to the end, comment below,   what you guys think of the video, is it more of  the same thing about vision lore and theory, or is   there anything new on visions, and how they work.  Visions have always been a big part of the game,   and vision holders as well as the lore behind  it have also been so suspicious since 1.0. So   making a video on this every now and then for  the channel is always a blast to put together.  Anyways that's it for this video, I’ll see you  guys in the next one yeah? Like comment if you   enjoyed subscribe and hit the bell for more  of my ramblings and stay mad theorists BY!!!
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Published: Sat Apr 06 2024
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