2Pac's Thug Life, Big Syke's Final Interview (Unreleased Full Interview)

all right Thug Life what's good what it do good what's good you know we've already interviewed uh mopr so clearly you know we've already talked about his relationship with with Pac and you know how they grew up together but how did you guys end up hooking up with Tupac originally I met Tupac through uh my homeboy surge um wani was like pac's manager at the time and serge and Wan's cousin so Serge BR him to the hood and uh he met the realis you know okay and what Hood was this Inglewood Englewood Englewood La yeah okay yeah man and uh and me I actually met p through kolio me and my boy rated or shout out to my boy rated or locked up right now uh Superstar rated it all R it all yeah no doubt you know we we was we had a group called Double Jeopardy and uh actually Coolio was working with us at the time so you know it was like a dream come true bro one day he told us just to meet him at the hotel he had a surprise for us so we end up going to the hotel over there across the street from the uh The Comedy Store in Hollywood and we knocked on the door and first person to come to the door is TR from Naughty by Nature you know what I mean so we walk into this room we got TR in the room coolly on the room we look in the corner it's Tupac sitting in the corner right so we end up King it that day we you know start rapping and had a cool little Cipher going on and next thing you know Pac slid us his number and told us to get at him next day we called him we was out of his house in the valley he told us about doing this group called thug life we said yeah we down to do that we end up going to San Diego with him the next day that Monday we was in the studio doing a song with him and it happened overnight like that so that's how we met po you know what I mean so so Thug Life as a group like was formed in like 24 hours I mean well I won't say that I'm just saying for that was that part yeah for us how men rated are man you know what I mean okay understand so so so explain to me how Thug Life came together as a group well I don't know everybody probably can tell their own story but um when I met Pac I was already already had a project I had my own record label and when I met him he came to my video and bunch of little stuff so I was already in the mix of thing so he said he wanted to start this thing called thug life so me and him went to the studio and uh we did the song called thug life and then I end up meeting raided in in Mac uh I had already met Mo from uh uh previous encounters just hanging out with Pac and um it kind of went like that you know to be honest the way it happened Man Pac handpicked all of us bro he had a vision of doing this group called thug life and he basically handpicked everybody put us all together as a as a group you know what I mean and that's how it really happened okay so how long was it until you know from the moment that you know you guys met him to the point where thug life became an official group like how much time had passed it was never really a group it was just some cats that was put together right you know it was uh I never really seen it as a group cuz like you said he was already in a group I was already in in a group uh Mo was in a group you know everybody was already in like group so it was just kind of a combination of everything and original Thug Life album didn't is not the album that came out the original Thug Life album got uh Richie Rich on it U that's where you know some of the songs came off like how would they how long would they mour me with n dog um all some of those songs was on the original Thug Life album like I'm losing it was on original Thug Life it was a bunch of songs that was on that original that in scope didn't see in scope didn't want to be a part of it at first okay Pac forced it on him by screaming it and doing doing it himself and let me also give some shouts out for real dop to uh man man and babes because it wouldn't be no Thug Life album it wouldn't be no Thug Life fou if it wasn't for man man and B cuz they the one put up the bread okay yeah yeah and and also what was going on that no one heard got to hear that original in its original form because if people remember at the time there was censorship issues going on C Dolores Tucker yeah uh they were going against going after everybody body count us uh was it uh two Live Crew you know so we had to water down everything okay so so just just so I get the timeline correct uh Tupac dropped his first album right two Apocalypse Now two Apocalypse Now yeah and then the the strickly album came out strickly for my [ __ ] was the second album right then Thug Life Thug Life me against the world the world so you guys were right there between strickly and the world and and I get around was on strickly yeah yeah okay that was that was the big song right they came out that's what kind of bwac up that that single exactly but let me State this though for the timeline when Tupac did strictly for my [ __ ] and when he did Tupac now Pac didn't have that anim Mama rag on his head and he wasn't showing that Thug Life tat that didn't come so basically what I'm saying is the pck that every division of Pac if you close your eyes and see Pac and ask somebody to Vision a image of Pac they gonna always see that image of the guy with the ancient Mama rag on his head sht off and showing his Tupac tat that came when he got with thug life so the person and the image that the world really fell in love with and embraced to this day came from the thug life era so at what point did did Tupac get the Thug Life tattoo across the stomach when he started this group when we got this group going when he got the when he got the tattoo he came to M the same night he got the tattoo he came my homeboy house and that was after we did the song you feel what I'm saying so I mean you know people can say what they want to but the the the truth is you know la la and California living man especially in La you know the home of the gang bangers and all that you know it was a big influence on P No Doubt what I'm saying it was a big influence on so I don't know I don't I don't I don't know where Thug Life existed before CU I was I was on some evil mind stuff so you know our thug life when it it was just like the perfect word and the perfect example for for what was going on and where we was living bro where go ahead M where where early on back in while we were doing the strictly album you know we Pac had also came up with 50 [ __ ] and that's what we was working on First and 50 [ __ ] kind of morphed in to th life cuz we had some of the same principles you know and thug life was more inclusive and it was a better idea so that's what you know we start to smash with right and far as the image though bro this too me and my boy rated AR shouted out of again a runner man to rid it me and rid took Pac to the SLO and swap meet and when we did um the interview with f Five Freddy and we had on those Dicky overalls and the thug life stitched on it in the front and and the Thug Life Beanies with thug life on it that was me and Runner that took Pac to the swap me and we was all up in the swap me getting this gear and this image and creating this image of how thug life was going to be presented to the world you dig what I'm saying La in the west coast this the thing about Collective that image is already it's it's a gang bangers image you feel what I'm saying the image is a gang bangers image that tattoo across the stomach there gang bangers in LA been doing that from day one you feel what I'm saying so even the the you know just the whole image was a street image so by you representing the streets you got to get what the streets is what's going on in the streets and um present it to the world and that's what he did you know right so so you guys were affiliated with with which gang oh I was affiliated with some real gangs okay yeah I mean it don't even matter what I was see because I this is what I learned this is what I learned this is what I really learned about life don't matter if you're [ __ ] or blood see it's us against the system you feel what I'm saying so it's everybody against us so I don't promote my hood okay cuz and the reason I and the reason I say this because there so many rappers now you know that's Bloods and they they yell [ __ ] and blood but I got homies and really casting these streets really die behind that so that ain't that ain't nothing to play with them Rags you'll never see me with a blue rag on my head you'll never see me with a red rag on my head and I'm really from a hood M you know I went to jail at 15 for you know doing some things that I wasn't supposed to do cuz I was serious about it so when it comes down to the gang thing so I don't you know I don't touch on where I'm from feel what I'm saying because the media would love to run with that but if you add some cash from the streets they'll tell you as far as far as me man anybody that know macad dois know that I'm a hustler you feel me and I'm in the streets and I [ __ ] with everybody for from Bloods to Crips East Side West Side Compton Watts Englewood I'm everywhere and I and I get love everywhere so young young coming up I grew up in the [ __ ] hood and coming up you know I just recognize that gang banging it it it it basically it it it stops you from being able to deal with a lot of people and I wanted to Young know I knew I wanted to deal with a lot of people I wanted to get love Everywhere You Dig what I'm saying so when you banging you it's certain hoods you can't go to you can't go you dig what I'm saying it's certain individuals you can't talk to so that mean it's certain individuals you can't do business with you know what I mean I'm trying to do business with everybody trying to get money you feel me so so that and and also I just didn't see the sense in me killing a [ __ ] over a color I just didn't see that you dig what I'm saying not the doc [ __ ] just doing it CU that's they get there all this is me personally that's that's let me say Let me say something about gang bang see number one a lot of cats didn't want a gang bang because you got to choose you got to choose you feel what I'm saying and when you choose that you got to ride it to your death you know what I'm saying the same way thug life is once you choose it you got to ride it to your death so no matter the consequences that come with it you got to ride with it and a lot of cats don't want that you feel what I'm saying they don't want that cuz one day you going to be by yourself and you going to be with some cats that it's going to be some problems with so that's why I try to get to these young rappers now you can thug life to me represent everybody when when you start representing just your hood you got it's cast if you really a from a hood it's cats that done Kill from your hood then kill somebody some people from other hoods then killed your homies right and and if you keep promoting that all you creating is more of a problem that's that's what I think you know the world found attractive about uh thug life because we were more inclusive you know cuz it's about the economics the poor broke disenfranchised uh abused come with it no matter black white whatever if you out in them streets you know y can relate to what we talking about against the world comes out and Dear Mama was on it and uh I felt that's what took Pac into superstardom you know what I'm saying like I get around was that dope party song but dear Mama was something we was actually in New York bro when we first heard that remember we was in the trailer when Pac wrapped that off a piece of paper he said man I got something I want y'all to hear I never forget he was working on a movie with uh Mickey rook and we was in in New York and we came to the trailer and Pac was like man I want y'all to hear something and he spit Dear Mama off the paper and we was all looking at each other like Dam that [ __ ] dop you know what I mean but if people were paying attention Pac had been making so conscious songs got a baby you know keep your head up and you know it was just and but dear Mama was the one that just like the timing of it because you know Brenda's Got a Baby and keep your head up was on his first album all the hip-hop fans were [ __ ] with it but like Dear Mama head was on the second album I'm sorry on your second album I'm saying like Dear Mama that was something that everybody could relate to yeah you know what I mean doubt especially when he was in jail at the time right and he had the number one album in the country in jail mopr last time we talked U we talked about how how Pac got uh beat up by the police and you you took the photo right of of his face all all bruised up and everything when you look at what's happening now when you look you know all the videos are coming out uh of police brutality you know young black kids getting killed getting choked out and and the police walking um how do you guys feel about that and and number one do you think do you think that it's getting worse or do you think that there's just more camera phones out there in social media so more people can see bro this [ __ ] been going on been going on day one so yeah we got these cameras technology yeah and then they busted and still ain't nothing happening they get busted and they tell you what you see ain't don't it ain't the truth ain't what oh did you see the dude in South Carolina he like in the back sh anyway I mean really bro this [ __ ] from day one it ain't getting better yeah just getting worse and it's going to get worse hold up and let me say something the history if you know what police were for they was they was here to catch the slaves see people don't want to talk about that they don't want to talk about that overseer thing made to catch the runaway slaves man just a little history have you guys had situations with police please what I mean in terms of getting beat up by police I was crack epidemic in the 80s when you was getting slammed on your face ground like a hot ass son have you ever been slapped come on man so you got to slap out the knees in the back of the head choked out what what come on man what they chok my homeboy out not him my other homeboy out and almost killed him man right in front of my face man I laid down in the mud when they turn the water on so you can your face all down in the mud get water off you down there drowning you better not get up let me say something about the police man the real the real talk is it's never going to change because the people who come to patrol the put the hood is not from the hood until the hood Patrol themselves the people who grew up in it become the police cuz we not going to shoot us if we do shoot you I'mma shoot you in your leg man cuz I know your mama or I know your sister or your cousin but somebody who come from way out of Semi Valley come up in Inglewood to protect Inglewood right come on man get out of here man they going to keep killing us I mean but the problem also is is that people that come from your communities don't aspire to be police officers would you want to be one no that's what I'm saying it's like how can you make me want to be one when you treat me this way but but but that's the problem right people aren't policing their own communities because people in these communities don't want to be police let me say you something I list the gangs was originally the the police right that's who they were supposed to be but they turn in and start fighting each other that's the only problem that gangs is ain't nothing wrong with being in the gang for real cuz white folks doing this they in country clubs see but the gang bangs They hanging on corn that's the only difference and what they do cuz they might be caught in the criminal element gang bangers but if they didn't G if they didn't shoot each other and sell drugs and they were selling T-shirts and stuff man come on now can't say nothing about that well you know there there's always this this argument I find interesting where you know right-wing people will say well why are blacks so upset over police shooting them when they shoot each other but the argument for that is when a black person shoots another black person they go to jail whereas I'm let white officer you talking my language now this good questions I like these questions if an officer shoots a black person chances are he'll walk M for sure okay now you ever heard that saying um like U you know my you you you got a family group you know and you know the sister got a bad mouth she talk [ __ ] about her mama the little brother talk [ __ ] about her mama but anybody outside that family better not say [ __ ] about my mama right it's the same [ __ ] it's the same [ __ ] we we will deal can deal with ourselves but you can't do that you can't do that you know and and see the thing about the police they hold get down is they come every day their job is to come take us to J jail you feel what I'm saying so we're never going to like them they're never going to like us and that's the bottom line so to me until we start commun you know policing our own Community it's never going to change man it's never going to change well I know for example at death row they were using off-duty police officers at security um are you saying all police are bad if you guys had friendships with police I'm glad you bring that up another good you know another good keep it coming now I'm going tell you this about them [ __ ] over that was at death row cuz I was over there with him them [ __ ] let my [ __ ] get killed they let my [ __ ] get shot up so [ __ ] them that's on the real if you really want to know the truth and then they go out and write books and come on man knock it off man come on knock it off man I'mma keep it 100 I'm G say this though me me personally St let me let me say and he should have never never ever and this goes out to all the rappers never ever let somebody protect you you let your own folks protect you never leave it up to somebody cuz the police ain't never got practice shot at feel what I'm saying we got practice shot at all the time in the hood so we know what's going to go down and if you know the situation you can already see it coming police all they do is roll around and take us to jail they don't know how the hood pop off they don't live there so never let the police protect you all the rappers never let them protect you never because death row was not the only place that hired off D the cops please you know all throughout every city all throughout say this though like said uh earlier though from the hood when you got somebody come from the hood I'mma shout out my boy pep pep is an Englewood police officer but guess what pep come from the hood pep roll through and he got a job to do that's his job so so he works in Englewood but he he works in but he's a detective detective now you know what I mean went to school to be a detective but what I'm saying to you is he's a thug life fan he loves Tupac when he roll up on me my son I tell you my son Boogie is in the house right now shout out to my son boo we didn't have the I didn't have the police pull up on me where I hustle at I don't have the police pull up on me banging thug life on the loudspeaker the [ __ ] that they say hey pull the car over to the left they playing our records bro and they come see me you feel me knowing what I'm doing you take me to jail so I'mma say this for the record though for the record though few of them that know me and know about me and that are fans of the thug life I got to pass straight up I'm telling you that now for as the dirty ones shooting [ __ ] in the back and all that [ __ ] and putting their knees and I'm been stomped out and all that by by one time you feel me come on I'mma say that you feel feel me but shout out to the ones that are trying to do their job and I didn't have one like my boy Chris told me man this [ __ ] ain't Noble to job to me man I'm trying to go home do my 95 and go home where they put him at death Duty for going to his son baseball game in his uniform [ __ ] like that you know what I mean so you know it's a job for some of them bro and for a lot of them it's more than a job they want to [ __ ] hurt and and inflict pain on somebody else so I'm going say that but I wouldn't say all of them the whole 100% of them are dirt no no it's let me say this too it's always some good police feel what I'm saying but they mentality they just like see they get they they hate when a when some young blacks don't tell on each other but they got the you know they don't tell on each other yeah the the the Blue Shield exactly they don't tell on each other they don't expose when somebody doing something wrong but they want the black community to call and you know you know snitch and tell on people when you're not going to come help them you're not going to come help them but I do have to say this and this is just to keep it 100 because I'm a 100 typ cat I have no problems with the police I only have problems when they do something that they don't have no damn business you feel what I'm saying getting all out of their Lane and profiling us and always making us the target of them filling up these jail um uh these penitentiaries and all the rest of that because is what they got going on is the whole uh prison industrial complex they flush all the prisons with blacks and and Latinos to and they they they made them all privatized so they can get money from the each state pay the prisons so we can't let this prison be empty who we going to put in there let's run over there to the ghetto and get all them out and put them up in there and that's been the plan from day one but people the world don't want to look at at it for what it is they wanted to oh no they doing something wrong well same thing that we doing in the black community they doing in White Community they doing it in the Asian Community they doing the Latino Community everybody's doing the same damn thing there was more people in the group that are actually here today of course you know Tupac Tupac is gone um rated R was in the group rated R yeah rated R man rated R was in the group rated R locked up right now you know real Hood cat real Bank real solid that's my little brother from from from the sandbox you know what I mean so he got off into something man and and and it it just got him locked up right now man but you know we repping for him oh for sure uh like he's still here so you know what I mean that that's what's up so just like Pac still here with us Runner still here with us and and Yaki Gaddafi and all our loved ones man they still here man uh and stretch was in the group as well yes sir shout out to stretch like I said Thug Life man wasn't no group it was it was a lifestyle man that cast was already living family we did and all we did was put it on wax you know what I'm saying put it on well so now put it on digital so it was that's all it was it was just representing the streets repr you know what vad let me say this bro you know what we are though bro really we a movement we thug life was a movement and that's what Pac really started he wanted he wanted people to recognize thug life as the lady that had to work three jobs and come in 3:00 in the morning that was Thug Life you dig what I'm saying um you know the single parent mother the single parent father you know that was thug life it wasn't even really about the gang banging um aspect of it or you know stuff like that it's the people we was we was we was the voice for the struggle and people that was stuck in the struggle and struggling like us and that's why I think we got so much love and and people related to us so much cuz we spoke from from that point of view you know what I mean we was giving it to them just like they was living it we was living it for real and we was speaking on [ __ ] that we was living I was still serving when I was rapping you know what I mean so the [ __ ] was really real you know what I mean it wasn't like no made up [ __ ] and we just making this [ __ ] up we was really living that bro yeah still in the hood you do you dig what I'm saying so you know okay so so the song running from the police was that on the thug life album or done around the time that was probably done around the time it was done around the time yeah were you guys ear in the near the beginning in the beginning near the beginning because as people know that at one point you know biggie was cool with us biggie was supposed to be down with thug life so bigy was supposed to be part of Thug Life as a group he wanted Pac wanted biggie to rep for the East Coast rep thug life for the East Coast still doing his [ __ ] but repping thug life you know CU thug life was never a group right so you guys bud cast representing see but in order to get the money we had to put forth something that looked like that's what in scope came up with okay y'all get together let's uh you you you were going to be in the group so so when running from the police came out were you guys there when they recorded it no no no okay and what was that song was that supposed to be on an album or was that supposed to be on PX album Biggie's album just a song that was a song they did bro and they was going to place it wherever they was going to place there's so many songs man you just do music man you do the music and wherever it ended up it right right we was just recording bro just just record and at the time you know biggie was on the rise and it was you know smart to get him on the track and at the time we was all cool of course get biggy on the track East Coast we got East Coast [ __ ] you know so that's and again you see just like regular artists it was worldwide Pac was trying to get biggie to rep that East Coast side of thug life we was doing the West Coast [ __ ] and we was trying to just lock it all the way in lock everyone in Across the Nation across the world into this movement called Thug Life okay so so you guys come out with the album and then um Tupac came out with me against the world right I follow the album me against the world came out when Tupac was in jail but but okay but it was done before he went to jail and originally it was supposed to be called [ __ ] the world right I don't know I never that's what I heard no yeah I never heard that okay so was Thug Life still a you know a group while when Pac went to jail cuz cuz after he came out it seemed like then it was the Outlaws is that is that accurate P kept changing the new you know he kept changing and and evolving into the next thing so that's just kind of how it was yeah well see the Outlaws before they was even the Outlaws they was called Drama cdal exactly and when we was on tour drama Cal would be the opening act and then Tupac and thug life would take the stage so they was just like the little homies they was our little PS that that was coming up behind us so you know only rightfully Pac seen them as the next one he was going to bring to the top so that's how it went it went just went in that order you know what I mean so that's when they dro the uh the hit them ups and all that type of stuff you know what I mean so yeah you know them was our little brothers man you know what I mean real shout to Ed today actually yeah um so so Pac gets out of jail and he starts he well he signs with death row uh and he starts focusing on you know the Outlaws so what are you guys doing at this point after he gets out I was locked up bro oh you were locked up I was locked up yeah okay who you want to know me yeah I am an outlaw homie okay so you're part of my name first molini you name me molini man Ki right there man you feel what I'm saying and we actually the outlaw Immortals exactly okay that's what it really was the whole plan right that was the whole thing man you know you need to do a little research man before you I I don't got it you're right you're right I missed a few facts here yeah yeah um what was really you know from y'all's point of view what was the tone at death row once Pac Pac got into that situation I had a ball doing making the all eyes on me that was that was that was that was one of the best times in his career we I mean we were happy that Pac was out of jail then I remember everybody wondering yo where's Pac going to go where he going to go he going to stay in New York he going to go to the Bay he going to go to La everybody was wondering where he going to go and everybody heard he was coming to La it was a WAP it was it was a WAP it was those were good days right there making it all eyes on me okay um what was the overall tone at death row you know cuz you had you had Pac and had his crew and you had Suge and his crew then you had Snoop I said had a ball man everything was lovely yeah it it seemed like cuz cuz Snoop said like he was the one that was really pushing Suge to like sign Tupac and stuff like that he was saying how he we know we really need Tupac on the I would know nothing about that everybody wanted Park out of jail you know everybody fans fellow artists everybody wanted Park out of jail you know so I guess you know that's what what Snoop was thinking about absolutely what what was the the impact when all eyes on me dropped every car in La was bumping uh uh uh ambitious as a rider yeah I remember that I remember every car that you pass by you hear yeah that was the first song of the album yeah yeah I I remember when you first heard that it's like okay Tupac's back yeah and he's back he's back he's back right no and then and then before that you first heard California Love I guess was was that single released before before the album I remember here in uh you know how I usually release single before the album I could have sworn I heard California before I heard the actual album I think the first song Single was California Love yeah yeah that was definitely and I remember when when I heard California Love cuz you know a lot of times you know okay this artist went to jail you know they're not going to recover it's you know people going to look at him a certain type of way jail changed him but Pac came out like came out hidden bro H came out screaming [ __ ] world [ __ ] this system his whole work ethic was just you know that's one thing I can say I definitely got got from parck is like speed it up bro you know what I mean I remember you told me one time M you going to miss the flight bro you know mean got finish that up you know what I'm saying so he was so fast bro I used to just be like why this do to sit down and and start writing and just be like look like Scribble but the [ __ ] was all dope ass lyrics but he was fast with it so definitely his work ethic man I really admire pck and and and and and learned a lot from me far as his work ethic when he got out and did uh all I on me and dropped him two double CDs I [ __ ] was going I heard was going from from Studio to Studio from room to room just boom boom knocking out in this room I'm going to go listen to beat in this room boom knock that out in that room go back to that room boom boom and just was killing it yeah I heard he used to fire producers that wouldn't that wouldn't make beats fast enough yeah that dude was a beast man a beast my little brother was a beast for sure okay so he come he comes out on on death row and the album goes goes crazy what really led up to the whole mavelli thing and why why the change into mavelli like what and and why why like you know the mavelli album didn't even have Tupac's name on it it was like a totally different name I mean all the Tupac fans knew obviously but but what was what was the reason for the whole transition you got to ask the Outlaws cuz they was around at that time okay you know I wasn't around at that time so you guys started to out a little bit less yeah I had I went back to the streets I went back to what I uh did best at the time okay yeah and my child was being born so I needed to uh tend to that but you know if you listen to M though you listen to Ma I had to tend to that right yeah if you listen to melli man po just that was his that was his thing bro he he could tap into a certain type of uh energy you know what I mean cuz to me you know mavelli had that that dark mysterious kind of that's one of my my favorite records off of him and Me Against the World one of my favorites both of them but uh yeah he he went more on the dark end on that melli [ __ ] like and when when he was in jail he had read the the prince the the book he actually read the book in jail so I'm sure that had influence on too you know for him to come out and name you know giving people Alias is it was just something new to me cuz I didn't know who the hell he named me you feel what I'm saying I didn't know who the hell he was you know but uh had to look him up what he did what he did what he did do was um he made real Street cat start reading without having to be in jail you know that's what he did you guys started to move away a little bit uh you were in jail yeah you you went back to the streets and you had a child so so you guys were spending less time with Pac yeah last turned the young boys turned no doubt no doubt no doubt and it wasn't by choice bro it was like like Mo said it was it was the outlaw time to shine at that time and we was you know where I was at py was doing his thing and mo was tending to what he needed to tend to which his family so you know it was still all love we don't never want nobody to get a twist all wasn't [ __ ] with them it wasn't no love right there it was always love bro right we was a family first and foremost I mean what I'm saying how can you not have a a love for let alone this his brother so but for C who open the world for me so that goes without saying exactly you know I just I just you know truly wish that a lot of things turned out different far as with him you know because you know everybody a celebr great death right now but me you know I'm sh Mo and everybody we want to get old with the cat you feel what I'm saying we want to be 100 years old sitting on the island in place laughing sure I mean I could only think about what kind of effect Tupac would have had on politics had he still been alive let me say something Obama wouldn't have got elected if it was for Tupac man people better stop thinking that it didn't happen because of that you know not just po but hip-hop period if it was for hip hop it it wouldn't be no Obama man it would not be no Obama cuz one thing that we do as blacks we accept everything from every race you feel what I'm saying every race come in what the Blacks doing and you know okay let me let me twist it and now I'm going use it for they benefit and it's all gravy you feel what I'm saying it's all good but in the real token what is it doing is making their kids other race kids turn to love blacks so now okay now you got Obama in the white house cuz if it wasn't for hip hop wouldn't be no Obama and Pac you talked about a black president come on we did a song called letter to the president right exactly come on man that's the good that's the thing about um our Movement we were talking about this [ __ ] 20 years ago way ahead of our time man honestly way ahead of our time you know earlier earlier today I actually interviewed Greg nice Greg nice G nice and uh he he told me something interesting about about his relationship with P he said that um did you guys record anything yeah we've recorded about seven records okay and was that supposed to be the one nation project that the Tupac was doing yeah I actually helped him put that together because he thought like he thought easy Mo was upset with him he thought certain people was mad at him because of the things that he was saying on records and stuff and I told him like Mo ain't mad at you he's like he's not I'm like hold on let me call him yo Mo hold up here talk to P he's like like screaming and laughing I'm like see I told you man your boys love you man he's like I just feel bad because I know people mad at me man I miss New York I want to go back he said I Miss Puerto Ricans he's like I want to see a Puerto Rican do you know one that just come out here I fly him out there I just got to see one I miss going up into the weed spots I was like yo you want Primo to do some music with he's like yeah I'm like I call prank yo you want to come and R Park yeah I'm like you want to get Fat Joe in it he's like yeah I'll call Fat Joe too you want that he's like do you know how to reach the other guy uh buck shot I'm like yeah and we started doing it just like that and and it started happening man he from the East Coast he was born out there he used to be called MC new yorw born out there isn't that right original name was MC New York right it was it wasn't it was was never about no East Coast it was it wasn't pop that created that bro the media created that media get it right the media always F [ __ ] like that bro they wanted it more more dramatic than it was right cuz they need to sell something man that's why they people love to talk about the violence and the bad you know because that's more entertaining more shock effect than uh a good story you know about when he left when P I seen him put $100 in some in this lady's diaper and uh matter of fact it was more than 100 couple hundred bucks in the diaper of a kid in South East St Louis remember we was in East St Louis the worst place on the Planet homie I promise to you I done been to every ghetto every projects in every city in America and East St Louis was the worst place remember that so Greg di told me that that was the the idea that originally the two of them came up with was to do the one nation project uh to basically dispel the whole air of that that you know pock [ __ ] with the East Coast cuz he had love for the east coast and that's when he started to reach out you know he said Greg helped him reach out to a couple artists that he [ __ ] with you know like buck shot and DJ Premiere and um for forgot who else a few a few people though who bu bust RS yep exactly exactly do you know what happened with that project yeah it's still in the vaults no it ain't I me h they uhuh they was taking cast off songs man some of them songs already came out man they pulled off lyrics they took off who they wanted to take off man you know and that's real so a lot of pox original music thank God for the for the bootlegs because you wouldn't you wouldn't hear half of that stuff homie you're in its original form you know with the cats he chose to do the songs with you know and that to me that's that's what's important because at this point the stuff that you getting you know from a couple albums in it's like they decided what they wanted to do with it right you know the power is that big yep uh are you guys involved in the movie at all no mo no comment no comment LT Hunton is uh I guess the producer oh yeah nothing love for LT yeah yeah know I did an interview for it but that's about it okay yeah I'm supposed to have a little small role in it but it is is what it is bro our thing is this man we here to let the world know Thug Life as a whole is back bro and we really never left and we on tour you see this it say still thugging that's the name of the tour still thugging the official Thug Life still thugging to her and we coming to a hood near you please believe that now now with the whole Thug Life thing uh break down break down the acronym and what it really means I hate you gave little infant [ __ ] everyone explain that the hate the neglect that kids get when they in their young developing years and they don't get that love that love can can can turn rotten and it's what you don't want to see in the streets and not only that it also means it also mean that kids if you take a bunch of different race kids and put them out in in the playground they just going to play their own wor about the colors is what the people what parents in the society teach them kids that make them racist and make them Prejudice and make them turn out to where they they don't like people they don't even know so that's the hate that you giv America is given to the young kids you know that's the truth some people are put here to party and say nothing when they have an opportunity to say something right but Pac took it upon himself to represent people less than him and a race of people that's been getting done wrong the whole time a thousand years from now Tupac's going to be white Bob Marley is going to be white it's going to be white he's going to be white what does that mean that means they going to change the color of them like they did to Jesus with the same thing they did to Jesus cuz everybody know Jesus wasn't white right right but back then there wasn't video phones and you know if you really do your history on Jesus you can find out when who's that uh Picasso painted him painted the picture of Jesus no Picasso it was hold on what dein yeah yeah whoever it was the picture of Jesus is his brother the picture original picture of Jesus they told him no you can't put that picture up homie you can't do that so like I said thousand years from now Pac going to be white what it was man pac's good for something man B Mar stood for more than just the music the music was just an outlet to get their passion across you know what I mean what they really stood for and that was for the people for the people man you dig what I'm saying it's deeper like like Pac label we was signed to out the gutter in the gut so just with that alone you might think oh man what I'm going to name my label he named his label out the gutter cuz that's where he felt he came from out the gutter and we all came out the that's why I'm telling you man that's why I say Pac hand picked us out of but me to this day I just got to chill over my face bro on my arms right now cuz you know what I always I'mma always love and appreciate Pac like py said for making our dream come true bro out of a million people that just wanted to shake this man hand or get an autograph or take a picture with him we was chosen to to do an album with this man a tour with this man to you know really know him as a friend not just with the music and that's special homie that set us apart from everybody else y now look at this believe that reason and another thing about Bob Marley and Tupac is so many people eating off a Bob Marley photo it's so many people eating off a Tupac photo man yeah all them t-shirts that mean you created your presence on this planet made it so somebody can eat off of you that you never met and never going to meet you feel what I'm saying that's why I say they in the minute because when people know Society know that these certain people thousands of years from now people still going to be talking about they got to get control of it I call Tupac MacDonald's because you know he own every Conner so I interviewed The Outlaws a while back and uh and we actually kind of broke the story was that they talked about how that after Tupac died the outlaw smoked his ashes is that true yeah it's definitely true you know um I think it was the night of uh the night of his um had the Mario for well I tell you what I I smoked his ashes but I didn't smoke them at the beach I smoked them at the penthouse and on Wilshire but um not me yeah I did that was my dog yeah no I love him too man and I you know I give him shout out every day so so you you actually took part of PX sashes and then went up and smoked in in the penthouse that's going to be in TMZ tomorrow T yeah I did it yeah that was my [ __ ] that's you know so where the Outlaws he would always talk about it he would always talk about it well he said it in his one of his songs right songs he would talk about yeah when I die burn me up smoke my ashes [ __ ] y'all gonna get hella [Music] high did you you mix it in with with some weed also of course okay good cronic you remember what kind no no I don't remember it was chronic itely chronic all that was out at the time okay so so essentially what happened was what he was he was uh he was cremated after after he died and then you just what took a piece of his ashes and then went up and rolled it up and oh no his his his his ashes was placed in his bedroom and you know family would different times go back and spend time with and during that time is when I we did it it was a bunch of us few of us in the room and we we smoke can you it seemed it's seemed natural it seemed like what was supposed to happen Okay were the Outlaws with you I believe one of them I don't remember exactly who was in the room I think my cousin moo was there I was there maybe a couple other people but yeah it was more than me what was the experience like I mean when you actually did it was it was it what you thought it would be no it wasn't no uh it was just is like smoking some weed man that's all did you get high did you get high though was you high though did you get some business I was mostly you know uh we important thing we was just trying to do what he wanted us to do okay you know that meant something to still be able to do something that he wanted us to do why why do you think the family uh denied that this happened cuz all of them didn't do it ah probably you know say they didn't know they was Sting in there smoking on them yeah yeah I mean it's it's a hell of a story it's a hell of Hell of nobody like melli to dawn real talk nobody you know so everybody a this privileges us you know everybody didn't have that opportunity to spend time with him no doubt like Max said you know cuz this right here is like the core there you know there's a few of us missing but we part of that core of beginning of it the movement that's all over this world all you [ __ ] overseas talking about Thug Life y get the [ __ ] out of here right I interviewed Bone Thugs in Harmony and I guess they talked about how when you say [ __ ] all the [ __ ] we all thugs was there some sort of thing over the thug name or something I mean yeah it was some words said by Pac on the box before about who is these dudes claiming Thugs and all of that you know what I'm saying you know how he was little hardheaded and then but once we all seen each other and face to face with it it got squashed real quick right because it it ain't like Pac made up that work right you know he he did he did kind of own it to a certain degree but you know you guys I didn't really see the connection until you guys said it just now yeah it had to be cuz there was no friction we was first we was first come on man period dot the third life tour man yeah we did a whole tour pushing the they City too do they City too what happened was love for the bone too what happened was that was one of my favorite Tupac songs ever like the the Thug Love Song with with bone thugs was just incredible yeah they talented Brothers yeah go on though yeah but uh what happened was Pac took the project to easy to see if he would put it out first H and he turned it down but at the time he was working with a group called bone from Ohio yeah he put the thug in it and they came out and got the benefit of the whole thing our fans our our fans thought they was us oh really at first cuz you got to realize we was on tour the whole time thug life and man thugging everywhere we went yelling at leaving to tags in every bathroom every stop everywhere we can go leaving stickers in everywhere man who T before we had a record de yeah whooping ass all the way through right you know so it I mean you know not saying that you know bone got they Thug thing from us and none of that because it it was easy and Pac that was doing the dealings you feel what I'm saying and and they Thug so it's all good Thug is a thug you feel what I'm saying and rest in peace big yak yak was alive and he look a lot like them dudes he tall lightskinned tall lightskinned I think I think the public got a little confused well yeah I think uh I was interviewing uh one of them recently they were saying how it was actually Easy's idea that they were just bone M you know and they had the whole bone thing and like well I guess that tells the story easy easy was the one that really pushed for the name easy called herself the hip-hop thugs bro so it's easy put that together easy the hipop Thugs and he put Thug on bone so that's how that came about it wasn't like they stole it from us you dig what I'm saying yeah okay that's what it was right and then and then I mean then the thug name kind of just became part of the hip-hop vocabulary I mean uh Trick Daddy the all them all them bit all young jezy like how you talked to everybody man everybody man everybody even R&B cat went thugging oh yeah you what I'm saying you can look at them all who all of them man look at the image we influence a lot of look what happened with the whole R&B thing before 96 what was it what did you see then look at it from that point on all the R&B cats turned Thug see every Kanye even put Thug Life in his record yeah am I lying oh yeah he yelling Thug light bright lights th light he's the farthest thing from a thug that you can find homie yeah you're right he he did yeah he's the all all of man of them man come on man this the original right here you finally get to see it 20 years later man so so what's next for you guys tour still thugging tour still thugging tour man coming to a hood near you and we here to put on for Park rest in peace and for all the homies just really from this this this Thug Life bro you know what I mean we here to bring back that that error that whole feeling of Cradle to the Grave how long will you mour me Bury Me a G [ __ ] don't stop don't get it to all them Classics we F to bring it to you you feel me to a hood near you yeah believe that what what's it like to really go around the world and seeing the whole Thug Life thing still still represented so hard everywhere shout out to our fans bro we got core fans they've been rocking with us for 20 years and go Rock 20 more years cuz we bigger than any other group bro we got a a cult following that's what I really love to believe and I know that that that's to be true that we're like say a shade shade don't got to put out an album for 10 years but she announced that she going to do a tour or or a show that [ __ ] is sold out they coming cuz she got a core audience we got more of a cult following we got people that don't even believe Pac dead bro and they'll never believe it that's how much they love right and they love us too because we come from that there there was actually a an interview with trch where like off camera but they kept recording that he mentioned that last time he seen Pocky was in Cuba and then I asked him about it in in another interview when I interviewed him afterwards and he said there was a an interview you did it was on the red carpet somewhere and um you know after the interview ended they put the camera down but I guess it was still recording and it sounded like you said like the last time you saw Pac was in Cuba N I smoke a lot of weed I don't remember that far back you know Tupac did study mavelli and mavelli was someone that did fake his own death yeah Pac was a jack all trades he could pull off a lot of things I mean I'm loyal if I know anything won't nobody else know if he wanted to be seen or if he wanted people not to think he was here I'm rolling with him and whatever he want to do shout out to tr Naughty Naughty by Nature Vinnie why do so many people think that Pac is still alive looking for him it's out of the love though bro you if you ever lost somebody bro that you really really love you can't believe it shout out to my son rest in peace I lost my son 6 years ago bro and I can't shout out to man shout out to little Daron man rest in peace man I can't to this day tap into I know my son rest in peace but I don't even really acknowledge the whole feeling of that cuz I can't go all the way there all I know is my my my son somewhere out of town and I'mma see him again you dig what I'm saying he's somewhere else but as far as just not being here just not being it's hard to accept that bro and with with the love that people have for Pac it's hard for them accept that they probably really do deep down inside no he's not he's he's deceased he's no longer with the living but they don't want to accept that bro so they refuse to accept it so in they mind he's still living somewhere I me I mean I guess certain things like him coming out with an album called mavelli and mavelli faked his own death you know what I'm saying like they he was always ahead of his time man and to go back on I don't mean to cut your off off go back on the question you just asked man is it's um I done been to the Middle East man and the ghettos in the Middle East man and they had Tupac picture and Thug Life spraying it on spray painted on the wall homie it means something way more bigger than they got a gang in Africa called Thug Life man really do your research Haiti too yeah come on man it's all real homie the impact that this this this right here made is going to be here long long long long long everybody worldwide relate to if you coming from a poor disenfranchise environment anywhere in the world you can relate to and actually I just interviewed uh last month I interviewed Napoleon in uh in Sai Arabia exactly brother that's where he lives now worldwide man that's a little bro right there and he repping where he at we worldwide International man we just look like this man but we worldwide man worldwide catch me in a liquor store near you anywhere on the planet yeah we didn't travel the world man no doubt No Doubt

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Published: Tue Nov 28 2023