#10MinuteTalk – The 25-06 is a Deer Slaying Machine

[Music] all right what's up everybody we have ten minutes here with mr. Ryan McCann urn to discuss the 25.6 cartridge this is another one that has been a very popular request from a lot of our listeners out there interestingly enough a lot of the requests coming in have been for calibers that start with - I haven't heard a lot of the 30 calibers or even the bigger ones yet but a lot of people more interested in these these twenty to twenty five out six - 243 's whatever so we are going to discuss this and turn it over to Ryan here probably to explain what's what's up with the 25.6 sounds like smaller 30.6 what's going on so we've talked about a gentleman on the podcast before or on the 10 minute talks rather with cartridges Charles Newton was a master ballast ition rifle maker in the early part of the 1900s and he more or less spawn the 25.6 as well as a whole bunch of other cool cartridges and rifles and things it was not commercialized until much much later it was 1969 Woodstock was on the scene remington said let's make a flat shooting 25 caliber standard action you know off of this existent case it was already long in the tooth 30.6 okay so it is built off yeah yep so that's the OSA long in the tooth in 1969 well I mean the 30.6 was 1906 and actually 1903 if you want to get really wild and start talking about 3003 was a little dimensional change to the neck and bullet style but I mean yeah it was a 63 year old cartridge by that if the 30 OTT six is called the thirty out six cuz it was from 1906 and wise in the 25.6 called the 2569 because it's not so 25 denotes caliber odd 6 denotes case I will say this though so my first two deer rifles were 30.6 yeah and my thinking was I get a 25 when I can get a 30 that is a very thing to think that's why I get less when I can get more then I start reading about this thing and it's a darn fine cartridge and in you know we the 6-5 Creedmoor where credit is due is a great cartridge everybody shoots it and everybody likes it I've got several twenty five out of six kind of stomps it out when you really start looking at some numbers yeah I mean there's a lot to the 25.6 that a lot of people don't realize maybe or aren't taking the time to realize you know you're gonna get a higher BC bullet in available hunting loads for the six five Creedmoor so it's going to it's going to pull away as we start putting some distance behind it okay but again if we start looking at the the distances in which I'll just say me I would ethically shoot an animal with the cartridge like a twenty five six so what is that for you within like five or four or five hundred yards okay yeah a 25 odd six is a speed demon it's a hundred and seventeen grain bullet at thirty fifty thirty one hundred somewhere in there and that 117 is a pretty slippery design you can get some some quicker looking bullets nowadays there's a company out called blackjack bullets they make 131 grain hi BC projectile okay for a wildcat called the 25 Creedmoor yeah Yeah right there had some Creed to it yeah but the 26 I think it's a really exceptional cartridge my hunting partner uses 25 odd six for years and then a 25 Watts exactly and I've loaded for both of those cartridges some of the most incredible shots I've seen on game he executed with the standard 25 out 6 and so is the thing that it is so flat shooting or that so reflected by exterior forces like wind or it's got a lot going for it in that it's a light recoiling cartridge okay it's very quick I I mean a 117 at at 30 50 or 3100 depending on your load is pretty darn fast the bullet does have a pretty good ballistic coefficient for it or those bullets around that weight yeah it's a really nice cartridge to shoot I think it's like an ideal pronghorn and you know mule deer and whitetail cartridge for four western states it's probably a little light for something like an elk on doubtedly hundreds and hundreds of elk have fallen to the 25.6 in the hands of skilled marksman and women but it is a really nice cartridge and it's kind of been back-burnered in the modern era of short actions and six fives yeah oh go for work I was gonna say so I was doing a little little pre podcast research here and I was looking at Hornady has a 110 grain eel DX I think it's got a BC 0.465 and it's coming out at 30 140 and I want to say I tried to turn it off here yes that's even have a better reference here but I want to say at 500 they were saying 35 inches of drop I have to look at the chart which is not no I mean that's good yeah absolutely I first became I guess interested in the cartridge I was opening up do their fur fishing game or Field & Stream and the Jaret rifle company had their what they called their bean field gun you remember those sure heavy barrel like oh yeah they were effectively the Remington Sendero kind of took it over on the commercial side called it's bean fields called bean field right because you hunted over bean fields with them and what's going in bean fields at your long-range whitetails yeah and so like they I remember the 600 yards they like that was the thing and that was the that was the thousand yards of then I guess but 25.6 was one of the chamberings I thought well that's certainly cool cartridge and it is it really is it's a nice cartridge it's mild to shoot if you're smaller stature shooter or a new shooter it's a good one and I think if you're playing the appropriate constructed bullet card and you're hunting you know medium sized ear and down you can't get a better rig is the factory ammo decently easy to find oh yeah yes I'm not a bad one I resumed I was just in South Dakota over the weekend we stopped at a sporting goods store walked through there there's 25.6 from every major manufacturing okay yeah because I was actually in kind of a debate with my hunting partner about she's swearing off quarter bores now now he's going straight six fives I'm swearing off the quarter yeah he says he's done with core divorce I feel like the quarter bores are just coming back in I hope so I think it's a good round 25 out six to 57 Weatherby 257 Roberts to 53,000 wait so after all those years of success with the 25 on 6 you said no yeah well yeah you brought up the 257 so you got the 257 Robertson to 57 Weatherby yep how does this fall right those right between the two okay yeah so the 257 Weatherby would be like the Ferrari the Roberts would be like the Camry but 25 odd sixes is right in the middle areas what's the MW sports yeah is that 257 Weatherby standard action or yeah it's a it's a you know modified 300 Weatherby K to smaller than a 300 more like a 300 Win Mag length action actually slightly shorter than that okay so that's why it's cooking yeah it's a that's a scorcher that's a burner that's a good cartridge to but but the 2506 I think it's probably 99% of the shooters the appreciable level of performance out of that kind of cartridge in a much more palatable format right right and you know you're talking about it's an exceptional or sounds like an exceptional performer at kind of these I'd say even longer I mean 500 yards it's a long ways that's a poke oh yeah that's more ways I remember it yeah yeah I watched Ryan take a shot on a deer in Nebraska at 400 yards and I remember thinking to myself man that thing is tiny let's parse out there yeah that's a long little spec the size of your fingernail running around out there yeah and the 25.6 is a great option for it yeah it's a ton of ammo it's a very easy cartridge to reload it's a very pleasant cartridge to reload if you do want to reload it I find it interesting that a lot of these cartridges are very popular for people I think one of the reasons why we've gotten so many requests to talk about you know 25.6 the 243 the you know some of these other ones like I said that start with 2 is because you were saying it even earlier great for pronghorn white-tail mule deer and then you start getting to ELQ or bigger and you're kind of like well yeah you you can well you know it's like there's always the debate like you could kill an elk with a 22 right and at some point you got to come down to the fact where it's like well am I going to recommend to you that you get a 22 long rifle to shoot an elk I can't but there are like right in this range though you wind up with a lot of cartridges that are kind of right on that cusp link if you're good sure you can do it yep whereas if I'm don't know you and I don't know what your skills are I might not recommend it but it is yeah it seems like a cool cartridge to like you can load it down with actually pretty darn small bullets and you know fairly big like you said one 17s one tens credit like what what about um like I've even seen some like 80 green options that they thought they were cooking oh yeah you get an 87 grain v-max in 25 on 6 and if you if there's like that is a laser be is that hard to shoot out of a twist rate barrel that's designed for a heavier bullet is it gonna just fly it apart yes what do you want it would one twist rate do it all the heavier bullets and the lighter ones or not yeah I mean you got to be careful if you push a bullet too fast and depending on the bolt design it can be materialize yeah flies apart that's big we're getting to the point there where you know maybe you're filling your case up a powder and like tamping it down I put more in but know that I the 87 green vmax bullet out of that you can cook with that and for coyotes prairie dogs that would be a mess I was gonna say that might not be a pelt saver no I don't think so I think I think you're on an eradication mission with that more than anything and with a with that say 10 minutes but one thing that I did want to ask because we've mentioned pretty much all these other ammo related podcasts similar to the whole everybody on earth has like two degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon I think every cartridge on earth has about 1 or 2 degrees separation from the 308 very close so with this one relate 30 at 6 1906 t65 cartridge or prototype cartridge which would have been 19 something 50 51 52 mmm came off of the 30th 6065 turned into 308 okay so fast-forward a few decades or about a decade the 25.6 came off of the third yacht 600 like you know 308 had a family and one of its sons went off and created the 308 and then another one so is the 25.6 is almost like the uncle yeah correct to the feeling yep here's your degree uncle lot six uncle at six o ngati my uncle adi alright thanks for listening everybody hit us up with more requests for ammunition and cartridges to talk about in these 10 minute talks thanks everybody thanks bye-bye 481 yards my hunting partner killed animal one of the nicer antelope I've ever seen we were we just blown an epic stock on like a group of 40 goats and so we like retreated to this protected Basin and we were eating gummy bears and Twix and refueling and his he had a Sendero two in 25 out six it was positioned pointing at this kind of Canyon Arroyo thing we're sitting there BS and not actually paying attention to anything because it was like opening day and this doe antelope steps off to this rim and he's like oh so you know with the rangefinder and it's 481 and he gets on the gun and he pulls the trigger and just like just as he pulls the trigger he goes what's wrong sup tension bullet lands low she takes off cycles out reloads he's like yeah it was a silly and then it was about 20 seconds later this buck steps to the exact same spot I know there's another one free range is 481 right sub change and pull the trigger blop down the yellow goes we went looking for it for like a half hour couldn't find it realize we had to be one one Hill over and he'll tell you what man that's when you start shooting across multiple valleys you need to count even when you're counting ridge tops you're like okay well what one were we on you know like okay you couldn't like really see it though cuz it was like it was like uphill and then there was like a hill obscuring so we got over it was like there was three yeah same okay sure pants and we're like on the middle one yeah they always camouflage each other yeah well then all sudden you get on the ground and that deers do your color yeah [Music]

Channel: Vortex Nation Podcast

Views: 115,110

Keywords: Vortex Optics, Vortex, Vortex Nation, Vortex Nation Podcast, Podcast, Optics, bullet, bullets, caliber, ammo, ammunition, 25-06, Remington

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Length: 13min 44sec (824 seconds)

Published: Tue Nov 12 2019