>>> BUT WE BEGIN TONIGHT WITH DONALD TRUMP'S PREOCCUPATION WITH CROWD SIZE. WHICH CONTINUED IN AN UNHINGED BRONX RALLY WHERE HE BOASTED OF HUGE CROWDS OF 25,000 PLUS. IS THAT WHAT YOU SEE HERE? 25,000 PEOPLE. WELL BASED ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE MAPS AND THE EXISTENCE OF EYEBALLS, YOU COULD SEE THAT TRUMP ONCE AGAIN IS LYING. IT IS A LIE THAT LAUNCHED A THOUSAND MEMES WITH FOLKS COMPARING THIS PALTRY SCENE WITH WHAT CONSTITUTES A CROWD OF 20,000. LIKE THE CROWD ANDREA BOCELLI DREW AT THE BARKLEY CENTER BUT THIS RALLY FOR BARACK OBAMA IN IOWA, OUCH, THAT HAS GOT TO HURT. BECAUSE IF ANYTHING TRIGGERED DONALD TRUMP, IT IS THE OBAMA FACTOR. REMEMBER BACK THERE 2017 ON THAT AWFUL DAY FOR AMERICAN HISTORY WHEN TRUMP WAS INAUGURATED PRESIDENT. HE PREDICTED HUGE CROWDS FOR HIS CEREMONY. BIGGER THAN OBAMA'S. BUT THEN THESE PHOTOS FAMOUSLY SHOWED A VIEW OF THE CROWD ON THE NATIONAL MALL AT THE INAUGURATIONS OF OBAMA ON THE LEFT AND TRUMP ON THE RIGHT. BOTH IMAGES WERE SHOT SHORTLY BEFORE NOON FROM THE TOP OF THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT. THE LIES CONTINUE TO THIS DAY. JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, A RAUCOUS BEACH FRONT RALLY IN NEW JERSEY DREW BETWEEN 80 AND 100,000 PEOPLE ACCORDING TO OFFICIALS BUT THEY LATER SAID THE NUMBER REFLECTED NOT HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE AT THE RALLY, BUT IT WAS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, QUOTE, IN OUR TOWN. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE. OR RATHER DON'T. WE KNOW THE ABSURDITY IS THE POINT. THIS IS A THING WITH DONALD TRUMP. AN OVERINFLATED FEELING OF SELF. AND YOU KNOW WHO ELSE DOES THAT? DICTATORS. KNOWING PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE ANY NARRATIVE THEY ARE FED. AND WE KNOW THIS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP. BUT THIS IS ALSO ABOUT THE MEDIA TAKING THE BAIT. WITH REPORTINGS ON TRUMP'S CROWD SIZE SNATCHING THE HEADLINES. THIS IS A CALL FOR SHOE LEATHER REPORTING. WAS ANYONE AT THIS RALLY ASKED IF THEY ARE ACTUALLY FROM THE BRONX. BECAUSE THE BRONX, BOASTED A MAJORITY OF LATINO AND BLUE VOTERS. IN THAT CROWD, IT LOOKED AWFULLY WHITE. IT IS TRYING TO CONVINCE THAT BLACK AND BROWN AMERICANS ARE REALLY INTO TRUMP. IF TRUMP WAS LYING ON THE STAGE, THIS IS WHAT NEW YORKERS WERE SAYING ON THE GROUND. >> NOBODY WHO IS AUTHENTICALLY FROM THE BRONX IS WILLING TO CO-SIGN AND XENOPHOBIA AND MISOGYNY AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THIS GUY REPRESENTS. >> DONALD TRUMP KNOWS THAT HE'S NOT WELCOME IN THE BRONX. >> DO YOU THINK THERE IS ANY PEOPLE YOU KNOW IN THE BRONX OR FRIENDS THAT WOULD CONSIDER VOTING FOR HIM? >> NO. I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY THAT WOULD VOTE FOR HIM. >> DOESN'T FIT TRUMP'S NARRATIVE, DOES IT. AND THINK ABOUT IT. IF TRUMP HAS SO MANY SUPPORTERS IN NEW YORK, WHY AREN'T THEY SHOW UP IN DROVES TO SUPPORT HIM AT HIS TRIAL WHERE THE COURTHOUSE IS LITERALLY JUST A SUBWAY RIDE AWAY. THIS IS TUESDAY. ONE SUPPORTER. USUALLY THERE ARE NONE. TRUST ME. I'VE BEEN THERE. AND TO TOP OFF THIS TOMFOOLERY, TRUMP VOTED BUY LON DONALD AS A POTENTIAL VICE PRESIDENT PICK. THE ONE BLACK GUY THAT REPUBLICANS LOVE TO ROLL OUT AS FAKE PROOF THAT BLACK PEOPLE, THE BLACKS ARE JUST MAGA. THEY'RE MAGA. IT IS A JOKE. AND JUST AS CREDIBLE AS WHEN THEY PRETENDED THEY WOULD MAKE THAT GUY SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE. BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T GOING TO DO THAT EITHER. JOINING ME NOW IS MICHAEL STEELE, CO-HOST OF THE WEEKEND ON MSNBC. MICHAEL TAM ASKII AND CLAY CANE, HOST OF THE CLAY CANE SHOW AND AUTHOR OF THE "NEW YORK TIMES" BEST-SELLING BOOK "THE GRIFT." WE WERE ON THE LIST AT THE SAME TIME. >> WE WERE. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS. THIS PARTICULARLY BOTHERED ME. BECAUSE MY GODMOTHER, MY JAMAICA GODMOTHER LIVED IN THE BRONX. THAT IS WHERE I LIVED AFTER COLLEGE AND AFTER THAT I WENT AND LIVED WITH MY GODMOTHER SO I LIVED IN THE SOUTH BRONX. I KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE LIKE. THAT AIN'T IT. WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO SHOW. THEY TRYING TO USE THIS LOCATION AND LITTLE CROWD WHICH THEY INFLATED TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT IS BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE THAT ARE DONALD TRUMP'S BASE. DOES IT SIR TATE YOU AS MUCH AS IT DOES ME. >> I'VE BEEN IN THE AREA FOR ALMOST 25 YEARS AND TALK ABOUT PANDERING AND TALK ABOUT LIES, AND LIES AND MORE LIES. HE'S IN THE SOUTH BRONX BUT THE BX IS NOT THERE WITH HIM. LOCAL NEWS WERE PEOPLE WERE TRAVELING THERE FROM PENNSYLVANIA AND TENNESSEE AND SO ON. AND THEN I THINK ABOUT TO SHOW US HOW HE CARES ABOUT BLACK AND BROWN VOTERS HE BROUGHT OUT TWO RAPPERS WHO HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF MURDER. THAT IS WHAT HE THINKS -- AND THIS YEAR MARKS 25 -- I'M SORRY 35 YEARS SINCE YOU HE ACCUSED OF FIVE BLACK MEN OF BEING RAPISTS AND CALLED FOR THEIR EXECUTION. AND SINCE HE PULLED OUT THE AD IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES." >> AND SALAM REPRESENTS A DISTRICT NOT FAR FROM THERE. SO HE THOUGHT THAT THOSE KIDS WERE GARBAGE. HE WANTED THEM DEAD. THAT IS THE GUY WHO -- ANYBODY WOULD IS BLACK, LIKE BYRON DONALD WHO IS FROM BROOKLYN LIKE ME. HIS FAMILY IS CARIBBEAN AMERICAN LIKE MINE AND HE KNOWS BETTER THAN THIS. I GREW UP AROUND THE TIME OF THE CENTRAL PARK FIVE AND THAT IS WHY I NEVER WATCHED THE APPRENTICE. ANYBODY BLACK THAT KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP THINKS THE WAY I DO. THAT IS WHY HE GOT 10% OR 20% WHEN HE RAN HERE. NEW YORKERS DON'T LIKE HIM. >> AND WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE -- >> COME ON, WE TRIED TO TELL YOU. >> AND IN D.C., WHY ISN'T HE IN FLORIDA IN HIS DISTRICT? >> GO BACK TO YOUR DISTRICT. AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE VICE PRESIDENT. THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE ME SPEAKER TRYING TO CONVINCE US OF THAT. DON'T LET PEOPLE RUB YOU IN YOUR HEAD. THAT IS MY ADVICE TO YOU. I KNOW YOU'RE A HIP-HOP MAN. CHEF G AND SLEEPY HALLOW. NOW I'M AWARE THEY WERE BOTH ACCUSED OF MURDER IN 140 COUNT INDICTMENT. SO DONALD TRUMP'S PITCH TO US IS GOLD SNEAKERS, AND TWO RAPPERS WHO WERE ACCUSED OF MURDER. THAT IS WHAT HE THINKS OF BLACK PEOPLE. AS SOMEBODY, MICHAEL STEELE, WHO TRIED TO EXPAND THE RANKS OF BLACK SUPPORT IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT? >> IT IS AN EMBARRASSING AFFRONT TO ALL OF THE WORK AND EFFORT THAT AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE TRYING TO CREATE WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY AND TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO PAY ATTENTION TO, THE YOUNG AFRICAN AMERICAN BOYS AND GIRLS WHO ARE WORKING THEIR WAY THROUGH SCHOOL, WHO JUST GRADUATED FROM HBCUs THIS YEAR AND FROM MAJOR INSTITUTIONS TO SET A COURSE FOR THEMSELVES OF THE AMERICAN DREAM. SO AS A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, YOU WANT TO REMIND US THAT WE'RE NOTHING MORE THAN RAPPERS WITH 140 FELONY COUNTS AGAINST THEM INCLUDING MURDER. OH, BY THE WAY, WE'RE GOING TO SAVE YOU ON YOUR CIGARETTES BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU LIKE SMOKING THEIR CIGARETTES AND WEARING THOSE SNEAKERS. IT IS ALL BEEN A LIE. IT IS ALL BEEN PORTRAYED IN A WAY -- AND THIS IS PART THAT I FIND THE MOST OFFENSIVE, WHEN MEMBERS OF OUR OWN COMMUNITY PROMOTE THIS CRAP. >> COME ON. >> AND YOU DON'T SPEAK HONESTLY, BYRON, THAT IS A PROBLEM. SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL STAND ON THAT STAGE AND INSTEAD OF THROWING OUT MAGA HATS, JUST THROW OUT A PAIR OF GOLDEN SNEAKERS BECAUSE THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS. AND SO IF THAT IS ALL YOU COULD BRING TO US, THEN STAY YOUR ASS HOME. >> HELLO. >> WE DON'T NEED IT. >> HE LITERALLY THROUGH PAPER TOWELS AT PUERTO RICANS. THAT WAS HIS HITCH TO HISPANICS AND HE HAVE MARCO RUBIO WHO KNOWS BETTER WHO USED TO BE A COMMENTATOR ON RUDY WHO KNOWS BETTER. WHO IS NOW OKAY WITH THEM LOCKING UP PEOPLE LIKE HIM AND PUTTING THEM IN CAMPS. YOU COULD FIND SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT IS WILLING TO CLARENCE THOMAS IT OUT. AND CLARENCE THOMAS WHO THINKS BROWN V. BOARD WAS OVERLY DECIDED AND WENT TOO FAR. AND THAT GUY. AND YOU HAVE A BABY VERSION OF HIM IN BYRON DONALD. IT IS EMBARRASSING. >> REAL QUICK, JOY, HOW DOES CLARENCE THOMAS GET A -- >> A GOODLY WHITE BILLIONAIRE WILL HELP HIM. I THINK HE DOES BELIEVE IN THE LARGESSE OF A GOOD RICH PERSON SO HE THINKS HE'S FINE AS LONG AS THERE IS A GOODLY WHITE BILLIONAIRE. HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ANYONE ELSE. I HAVE TO BRING MICHAEL IN HERE. THERE IS A GREAT SERIES IN THE NEW REPUBLIC, I HOPE YOU CHECK IT OUT. BECAUSE THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS, MICHAEL, IS THE MEDIA. THE MEDIA HAS GOT TO STAND IN THE WAY OF FASCISM HERE. I FOE THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE A SIDE. THIS IS WHAT AMERICAN FASCISM WOULD LOOK LIKE. TALK ABOUT THE MEDIA'S RESPONSIBILITY HERE, MICHAEL, IN THE TERMS OF THE WAY WE TALK ABOUT THIS STUFF AND THINGS LIKE DID HE GET A MASSIVE RECORD CROWD OF BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE IN THE BRONX. >> WE'RE WAY PAST THE TIME, JOY, WHEN WE COULD DO THIS SIDE AND THAT SIDE KIND OF JOURNALISM WHEN IT RELATES TO DONALD TRUMP AND THIS SIDE SAID THIS AND THAT SIDE SAID THAT AND THE TRUTH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE. THAT IS A TRADITIONAL APPROACH TO OBJECTIVE JOURNALISM. WE CAN'T HAVE THAT. NOW, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE MEDIA SHOULD BE SCHILLING FOR JOE BIDEN OR APOLOGIZING FOR JOE BIDEN OR TRYING TO SEE TO IT THAT JOE BIDEN WINS THE ELECTION. NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. HOWEVER, THE MEDIA DOES HAVE TO BE STANDING FOR THE VALUES OF DEMOCRACY. AND THE VALUES OF THE REPUBLIC THAT WE LIVE IN AND THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO PERFECT, FOR 250 YEARS AND AGAINST THE VALUES THAT WOULD ATTACK THAT. DONALD TRUMP VERY CLEARLY IS OUT TO ATTACK THOSE VALUES. HE TELLS US THAT IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER EVERY WEEK. WE WERE PREPARING THAT ISSUE OF THE NEW REPUBLIC, AND YOU KNOW, I WAS WONDER IF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IS THIS GOING A LITTLE FAR. BUT THEN HE COMES OUT WITH THE TIME MAGAZINE INTERVIEW AND I SAID NO, THIS "TIME" MAGAZINE IS EVERY SINGLE WORD WE ARE WRITING. AND THE MEDIA HAS TO BE MORE BLUNT AND SAY, LOOK, THIS MAN SAID HE IS GOING TO DO THIS, HE SAID HE'S GOING TO PUT, YOU KNOW, TRY TO DEPORT AND ROUND UP MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? WE NEED A SERIES OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THAT COULD DO TO FAMILIES AS JAMEL WROTE IN THAT COLUMN TODAY, FAMILIES
