BEING EXPOSED IN NOME'S NEW BOOK. >> WE BEGIN TONIGHT WITH A BLAST FROM DONALD TRUMP'S PAST. HOPE HICKS. THE FORMER GREENWICH, CONNECTICUT, MODEL TURNED WHITE HOUSE ADVISER. HICKS, WHO HAS NOT SEEN TRUMP IN NEARLY TWO YEARS SINCE SHE TESTIFIED ABOUT THE INSURRECTION HER FORMER BOSS INCITED, ACKNOWLEDGED THAT SHE WAS NERVOUS AND WAS VISIBLY SO. AND FOR GOOD REASON. IT'S THE FIRST TIME THE OUTSIDE WORLD GOT A WINDOW INTO HER AND TRUMP'S INTIMATE WORKING RELATIONSHIP. SHE, AS THE CAMPAIGN PRESS SECRETARY, WAS A KEY PLAYER IN THE 2016 TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND VENTUAL ADMINISTRATION. UNLIKE RHONA GRAFF, TRUMP'S PERSONAL SECRETARY WHO TESTIFIED LAST WEEK, HOPE HICKS PAID FOR HER OWN LAWYERS. WHICH MIGHT EXPLAIN WHY SHE SEEMED FREE TO DETAIL AT GREAT LENGTH THE INNER WORKINGS OF THE 2016 CAMPAIGN, WHO HAD ACCESS TO TRUMP, WHAT KIND OF MICROMANAGER TRUMP WAS, AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE FINAL MONTHS THAT COULD POSSIBLY MOTIVATE THE CAMPAIGN TO HIDE ANY SALACIOUS STORIES ABOUT TRUMP CHEATING ON HIS THIRD WIFE WHILE SHE WAS PREGNANT. KEY THERE IS THE "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD" TAPE. BEFORE PROSECUTORS GOT TO THE INFAMOUS GRAB THEM TAPE, HICKS EXPLAINED WHAT SHE DID FOR TRUMP AND HOW SHE AND MR. TRUMP SPOKE EVERY DAY. SHE ALSO TESTIFIED THAT HE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN THE MEDIA STRATEGY, ACCORDING TO HOPE, HE KNEW WHAT HE WANTED TO SAY AND HOW HE WANTED TO SAY IT. WE WERE JUST FOLLOWING HIS LEAD. SHE WENT ON TO SAY THAT SHE WOULD RUN STATEMENTS BY TRUMP, ESPECIALLY IF THEY WERE ABOUT HIM. AND THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE PROSECUTION IS HAVING ONE OF TRUMP'S CLOSEST AIDES TELL THE JURY THAT BASICALLY NOTHING HAPPENED IN THE CAMPAIGN WITHOUT TRUMP'S APPROVAL. NOTHING. AND THEN CAME THIS OCTOBER 7th BOMBSHELL. >> I HAVE TO USE TIC TACS JUST IN CASE I START KISSING HER. I'M AUTOMATICALLY ATTRACTED TO BEAUTIFUL. LIKE A MAGNET. AND WHEN YOU'RE A STAR, THEY LET YOU DO IT. YOU CAN DO ANYTHING. GRAB THEM BY THE [ BLEEP ]. YOU CAN DO ANYTHING. >> PROSECUTOR MATTHEW COLANGELO ASKED HICKS IF TRUMP WAS UPSET ABOUT THE RELEASE OF THE TAPE. HICKS TESTIFIED THAT THERE WAS A SENSE THAT IT WAS CONCERNING AND THAT SHE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE A MASSIVE STORY. ADDING, THERE WAS CONSENSUS AMONG US ALL THAT THE TAPE WAS DAMAGING AND THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A CRISIS. THIS TRIGGERED THE CAMPAIGN TO DESCEND INTO FULL DAMAGE CONTROL MODE, ONLY A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE SECOND PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE WITH HILLARY CLINTON. THE SITUATION ESCALATED WHEN WEEKS LATER THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" REACHED OUT TO THE CAMPAIGN ABOUT AN ARTICLE THEY WERE PUBLISHING ABOUT A PAYMENT TO AN ALLEGED MISTRESS, KAREN McDOUGAL, AND A CASUAL FLING, STORMY DANIELS. TRUMP SAT EXPRESSIONLESS AT THE DEFENDANT'S TABLE DURING HICKS' TESTIMONY, WATCHING HER ON ONE OF THE MONITORS IN THE COURTROOM, EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS JUST A FEW FEET AWAY FROM HIM. COLANGELO ASKED HICKS IF TRUMP HAD ANY CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THESE STORIES COULD AFFECT HIS STANDING WITH VOTERS. HICKS SAID YES. HE ASKED WHAT THE RESPONSE TO THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" ARTICLE WAS, AND SHE TESTIFIED TRUMP SAW IT AS AN ISSUE FOR THE CAMPAIGN, TELLING COLANGELO, QUOTE, TRUMP WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE STORY. HE WAS CONCERNED HOW IT WOULD BE VIEWED BY HIS WIFE AND HE WANTED ME TO MAKE SURE NEWSPAPERS WEREN'T DELIVERED TO THEIR RESIDENCE THAT MORNING. EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT WAS WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS AN IMPACT ON THE CAMPAIGN. TRUMP WANTED TO KNOW HOW IS IT PLAYING, AND TO HER, THAT MEANT HOW IS IT PLAYING WITH VOTERS. SHE ALSO EXPLAINED THAT JARED KUSHNER, WHO WAS VERY CLOSE TO RUPERT MURDOCH AND WORKING ON THE CAMPAIGN, TRIED TO KILL THE STORY. IT DIDN'T WORK. ONCE ELECTED, IT CONTINUED TO BE A SOURCE OF CONCERN FOR THE THEN-PRESIDENT AND HICKS WHO WAS NOW THE DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC COMMUNICATION FOR HIS ADMINISTRATION. THE PROSECUTION WAS ABLE TO GET HER TO CONFIRM TRUMP ADMITTED TO HER WHILE THEY WERE IN THE OVAL OFFICE THAT MICHAEL COHEN DID A GOOD THING FOR THE CAMPAIGN BY PAYING STORMY DANIELS. COLANGELO ASKED HICKS TO DESCRIBE WHAT HER FORMER BOSS TOLD HER IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT COHEN IN FEBRUARY OF 2018. WHICH WAS RIGHT AFTER COHEN TOLD "THE NEW YORK TIMES" THAT HE HAD PAID THE $130,000 OUT OF HIS OWN POCKET. HICKS SAID TRUMP TOLD HER THAT COHEN SAID HE FELT LIKE IT WAS HIS JOB TO PROTECT HIM, AND THAT'S WHAT HE WAS DOING. AND HE DID IT OUT OF THE KINDNESS OF HIS OWN HEART AND HE NEVER TOLD ANYBODY ABOUT IT. IN RESPONSE TO A PROSECUTION FOLLOW-UP HICKS CONCEDED SUCH AN ACT WOULD BE OUT OF CHARACTER FOR MICHAEL. I DIDN'T KNOW MICHAEL TO BE AN ESPECIALLY CHARITABLE PERSON OR SELFLESS PERSON. HE'S THE KIND OF PERSON WHO SEEKS CREDIT. HICKS SAID TRUMP BELIEVED THE DECISION TO BURY THE STORY BEFORE THE ELECTION WAS PRUDENT AT THE TIME. MR. TRUMP'S OPINION WAS IT WAS BETTER TO DEAL WITH IT NOW AND WOULD HAVE BEEN BAD TO HAVE THE STORY COME OUT BEFORE THE ELECTION. AS TRUMP'S ATTORNEY BEGAN TO CROSS-EXAMINE HER, HICKS BEGAN TO CRY. SHE APPEARED TO START CRYING WHEN BOVE BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THE TRUMP FAMILY GAVE HER WORK OPPORTUNITIES. ONCE SHE GATHERED HERSELF, SHE TESTIFIED THAT TRUMP DIDN'T WANT HIS FAMILY TO BE EMBARRASSED BY ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED DURING THE CAMPAIGN. JOINING ME NOW IS LISA REUBEN, MSNBC LEGAL CORRESPONDENT AND GEORGE CONWAY, CONSERVATIVE ATTORNEY AND CONTRIBUTING WRITER FOR THE ATLANTIC. TELL ME WHAT I MISSED IN THAT RUNDOWN, LISA. WHAT ELSE HAPPENED TODAY WITH HOPE HICKS. >> AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT WITNESS, JOY. I THINK PART OF WHAT SHE DID WAS JUST SITUATE US INTO HOW MUCH THE CAMPAIGN WAS IN A PERIOD OF FULL SCALE MELTDOWN FROM THE MOMENT SHE GOT AN EMAIL FROM THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" EXPLAINING -- I'M SORRY, FROM THE MOMENT SHE GOT AN EMAIL FROM "THE WASHINGTON POST" EXPLAINING THEY WERE ABOUT TO PUBLISH THE "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD" TAPE UNTIL THE ELECTION ITSELF. IT WAS ACCUSATION UPON ACCUSATION UPON ACCUSATION, AND THE "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD" TAPE WAS CLOSELY FOLLOWED BY MORE WOMEN COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK WHO WERE NEITHER KAREN McDOUGAL OR STORMY DANIELS BUT HAD CLAIMS AGAINST THEN CANDIDATE TRUMP. SHE SORT OF TOOK US THROUGH WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE CRISSCROSSING THE COUNTRY WITH DONALD TRUMP AT THE SAME TIME THESE STORIES HAVE LANDED IN HER INBOX, WHEN "THE WASHINGTON POST" FIRST CONTACTED HER ABOUT "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD," SHE SAID SHE WAS IN HER TRUMP TOWER OFFICE, IMMEDIATELY WENT UPSTAIRS TO THE 25th FLOOR, THE EXECUTIVE FLOOR, WHERE DONALD TRUMP WAS PREPARING FOR HIS DEBATE WITH HILLARY CLINTON, SURROUNDED BY THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP OF THE CAMPAIGN, AND SIMILARLY, WHEN THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" NOTIFIED HER ABOUT THE STORMY DANIELS AND KAREN McDOUGAL STORY THAT CAME OUT ON NOVEMBER 4th, WHERE WAS SHE? SHE WAS ON THE TARMAC IN OHIO AS TRUMP WAS ABOUT TO GO OUT AND HAVE A RALLY IN AN AIRPLANE HANGAR. ALL THE STRESS OF THAT PERIOD AND HOW MUCH TRUMP WAS FIGHTING TO PRESERVE HIS STANDING WITH VOTERS CAME OUT TODAY THROUGH HOPE HICKS. SHE WAS THE CAMPAIGN WITNESS THAT WE KNEW WOULD COME AT SOME POINT DURING THIS TRIAL. AND ALSO, SOMEBODY WHO PERSONALLY SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN DECEIVED BY AND DISAPPOINTED BY DONALD TRUMP TIME AND TIME AGAIN, WHICH I THINK CONTRIBUTED TO THE BREAKDOWN WE SAW ON THE STAND. >> GEORGE CONWAY, HAVING WORKED ON A COUPLE CAMPAIGNS IN THE PRESS OFFICE, THE CALLS COME TO YOU. THIS IS AN INTERESTING PART OF THE TESTIMONY TODAY. SHE'S ASKED WHEN DID YOU FIRST HEAR THE NAME KAREN McDOUGAL, IN WHAT CONTEXT. I RECEIVED A CALL FROM "THE WASHINGTON POST." WHO WAS THE REPORTER, AND HAD YOU HEARD OF SOMEONE NAMED STORMY DANIELS? I HEARD IT ONE OTHER TIME BEFORE THAT. SHE'S GETTING THIS CALL AS THE TOP PRESS FLACK IN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN, WHICH HAS GOT TO FREAK HER OUT. THE DATE IS SIGNIFICANT. NOVEMBER 4, 2016, IS FOUR DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION. YOU NOW HAVE A STORY COMING OUT THAT WOULD CONFIRM A SALACIOUS STORY ABOUT DONALD TRUMP'S RELATIONSHIPS WITH TWO WOMEN, ONE OF WHOM WAS STORMY DANIELS AND ONE KAREN McDOUGAL BUT IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL THESE OTHER WOMEN BACKING UP THE "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD" TAPE THAT CAME OUT IN OCTOBER '16 WHICH SHE ALSO HAD TO DEAL WITH, AND HE'S RUNNING AGAINST A WOMAN. IN AN ELECTION IN WHICH HE IS BEING PORTRAYED AS A MISOGYNIST, AND HE'S BEEN A MISOGYNIST EVEN TO THE WOMAN HE'S RUNNING AGAINST. THAT IS CONTEXT THAT'S IMPORTANT, RIGHT? THE TIMING IS THAT IF THE ELECTION WAS LITERALLY HAPPENING AROUND THE CORNER. YOU WERE IN COURT TODAY. WHAT DID YOU SEE? >> I WASN'T ACTUALLY IN COURT TODAY. I WAS IN COURT TUESDAY. I WILL SAY IT WAS VITALLY IMPORTANT TESTIMONY. BECAUSE I MEAN, IT SHOWS WHAT THE MOTIVATION WAS. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS THIS TALK EVERY FOUR YEARS ABOUT WILL THERE BE AN OCTOBER SURPRISE? YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS BECAUSE IT'S A SURPRISE. HERE, WE ALREADY KNEW WHAT IT COULD BE, AND PEOPLE WERE WORRIED, LIKE, WILL THERE BE ANY MORE? WILL ANY MORE COME OUT? AND IT'S JUST, I MEAN, AS HICKS TESTIFIED TODAY, THE INITIAL RELEASE OF THE -- THE INITIAL TRIGGER OF THE SCANDAL WHICH WAS THE "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD" TAPE BASICALLY PRODUCED THREE OR FOUR DAYS OF NONSTOP COVERAGE OF TRUMP AND WOMEN AND WOMEN COMING OUT TO TALK ABOUT HIM. AND YOU KNOW, IT EVEN ECLIPSED THE NEWS OF A CATEGORY-4 OR CATEGORY-5 HURRICANE OR SOMETHING. IT WAS -- THOSE WERE JUST REMARKABLE TIMES. I CANNOT -- IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO IMAGINE THAT THE CONCERN WASN'T ENORMOUS AT ANOTHER STORY COMING OUT BECAUSE HIS CAMPAIGN SEEMED TO BE TEETERING ON THE EDGE AFTER THE "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD" TAPE. >> YEAH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE TWEETS FROM DONALD TRUMP IN OCTOBER 2016, AFTER THE "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD" TAPE. PEOPLE MAY FORGET, EVERYTHING ABOUT TRUMP IS IN A MEMORY HOLE. HERE'S SOME OF HIS TWEETS, THE FOUL-MOUTHED SENATOR JOHN McCAIN BEGGED FOR MY SUPPORT IN HIS PRIMARY. HE WON AND DROPPED ME OVER LOCKER ROOM REMARKS. NOTHING EVER HAPPENED WITH ANY OF THESE WOMEN. TOTALLY MADE UP NONSENSE. POLLS CLOSE, BUT YOU CAN BELIEVE I LOST LARGE NUMBERS OF WOMEN VOTERS BASED ON MADE-UP EVENTS THAT NEVER HAPPENED. CAN'T BELIEVE THESE TOTALLY PHONY STORIES. REPUBLICAN REACTIONS, PAUL RYAN WAS SICKENED. MITCH McCONNELL CALLED THE REMARKS REPUGNANT. TRUMPS REMARKS DEMEAN OUR WIVES AND DAUGHTERS. REINCE PRIEBUS CONDEMNED TRUMP. NO WOMAN SHOULD EVER BE DESCRIBED IN THESE TERMS. THREE DOZEN REPUBLICANS HAVE CALLED FOR TRUMP TO DROP OUT. THE URGENCY IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP IN A VACUUM, AND ALL THE STUFF ABOUT WORRYING ABOUT HIS WIFE FEELS LIKE IT'S OVERWHELMED BY THIS. WAS THIS BROUGHT UP IN COURT, THE SCRAMBLE HAPPENING IN THE FINAL WEEK? >> ABSOLUTELY. I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE CONCERN ABOUT THE FAMILY VERSUS THE CONCERN ABOUT THE CAMPAIGN, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S AN EITHER/OR. IT CAN BE A BOTH/AND, SO LONG AS PROSECUTOS CONVINCE THE JURY THAT THE PREEMINENT CONCERN WAS THE CAMPAIGN FIRST AND THEN THE EFFECT ON HIS FAMILY. I DON'T THINK HOPE HICKS TOOK AWAY FROM THAT. WHEN SHE SAID THAT TRUMP, FOR EXAMPLE, THE NIGHT OF NOVEMBER 4th AS THEY'RE DRIVING BACK, SAYS TO HER I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" DOESN'T SHOW UP ON MY DOORSTEP TOMORROW, THAT DOESN'T UNDERMINE THE FACT THAT HIS CONCERN WAS FIRST AND FOREMOST THE CAMPAIGN AS DEMONSTRATED BY THAT CONVERSATION THEY HAVE IN MARCH OF 2018 WHEN HE TRIES TO SPIN HER ON MICHAEL COHEN'S OWN COMING FORWARD IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES" AND SAYS, MICHAEL COHEN DID THIS BECAUSE HE REALLY WANTED TO PROTECT ME AGAINST FALSE ACCUSATIONS. HE DID THIS OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF HIS HEART, WHICH
