Ex-Trump official warns GOP will lose elections for choosing Trump as leader

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>>> PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP MAY HAVE CLINCHED THE NOMINATION, BUT THE PRIMARIES ARE STILL GIVING HIM A HEADACHE FOLK NIKKI HALEY, YES NIKKI HALEY, RECEIVED MORE THAN 20% OF THE INDIA -- INDIANA REPUBLICAN VOTE. THIS WAS MORE THAN TWO MONTHS AGO. ACCORDING TO REPORTING, SHE HAS NO CONTINGENT OF ENDORSING FROM, AT LEAST FOR NOW. SHE SAID I AM NOT GOING TO DISCUSS THE POLITICAL FUTURE OR ENCOURAGE THEM TO GIVE TO OTHER CAMPAIGNS. THEY HAVE CONFIRMED THIS REPORT. OLIVIA TROY IS BACK. AXIOS SAYS THE PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGN -- I THINK THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND DONALD TRUMP, VERY IMPORTANT LANGUAGE THAT I HIGHLY DOUBT. >> NIKKI HALEY HAS BEEN ON PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP'S LIST FOR ANYTHING. THAT IS NOT HAPPENING. YOU KNOW HOW THEY THINK. THAT KIND OF AGGRESSIVE OPPONENT ON A TICKET WITH HIM, NUMBONE, AND NUMBER TWO, SOMEONE THAT HE KNOWS, WHEN HE NEEDS TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, WILL DO THOSE CERTAIN THINGS, AND THAT IS NOT NIKKI HALEY. HERE IS THE PROBLEM WITH NIKKI HALEY. YOU DO NOT GET TO PLAY IT BOTH WAYS. YOU DO NOT GET TO RUN THE KIND OF CAMPAIGN AND SAY THE KIND OF THINGS YOU DID AND MOVE THE COUNTRY TOWARDS YOUR CORNER, ONLY TO THEN COME OUT AND GO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND I WILL ENDORSE HIM BECAUSE HE IS THE PROBABLE NOMINEE. SHE IS HUDDLING WITH HER DONORS. THEY WILL NOT ENDORSE HIM YET. >> THAT "YET" IS DOING A LOT OF WORK. >> IT IS. HOW DO YOU SEE THIS, HAVING BEEN INSIDE THAT BUBBLE, AND HOW THOSE MACHINATIONS COME ABOUT? WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING ON WITH NIKKI HALEY AND THE CAMPAIGN AND THE TIMING BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, THE TIMING OF WHATEVER SHE WILL DO, WHICH I THINK WILL BE INDOORS AND TRUMP. >> I THINK WHAT SHE IS DOING IS SHE IS BUILDING OUT HER GROUNDWORK, HER NETWORK, AND BUILDING HER OWN PROFILE POLITICALLY BEHIND-THE-SCENES. I THINK THAT SHE IS LOOKING AT THE FUTURE. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR HER? I THINK SHE IS EYEING ANOTHER ONE AT THE PRESIDENCY AND IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, HOW DO I NAVIGATE THIS DONALD TRUMP PHENOMENON BECAUSE IT IS BIGGER THAN JUST TRUMP. IT IS TRUMPISM AS A WHOLE. SHE IS ALSO LIKE, MY FUTURE WILL BE ZERO IF I DO NOT FOLLOW HIM AND SUPPORT HIM. I GET A LOT OF CRITICISM FROM MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES, THAT I AM NOT ALL IN ON NIKKI HALEY. AS MUCH AS I WOULD WANT TO SUPPORT SOMEONE LIKE HER, I JUST DO NOT HAVE RESPECT IF YOU'LL GO OUT THERE AND PRETEND THAT YOU ARE THIS PERSON WITH INTEGRITY AND THEN TAKE IT ALL BACK AND COME OUT AND SAY YOU WILL FALL BACK INTO LINE. >> LIKE BILL BARR. >> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THOSE THAT ARE VOTING AND SUPPORTING HER STILL RIGHT NOW, EVEN THOUGH SHE IS NOT REALLY A CANDIDATE? I WORRY ABOUT THE DIRECTION SHE IS GOING TO LEAVE THOSE PEOPLE WHEN SHE DOES COME OUT AND SUPPORT PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. THAT IS MY CONCERN. >> THE WAY THEY QUALIFY THE BAR YOU HAVE SAID -- HE HAS DESCRIBED HIMSELF AS BEING GREEDY, BUT IT IS NOT ENOUGH FOR REPUBLICANS TO SAY YOU WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM. YOU HAVE TO GO THE EXTRA STEP. SOMETIMES, I WORRY THE CHAIRMAN IS SETTING HIS ASPIRATIONS TOO HIGH. I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT WAS DUE. YOU HAVE THE FORMER LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR JEFF JUNCTION SAYING HE WILL VOTE FOR BIDEN AND HE SAYS OTHERS SHOULD AS WELL. HE SAID, I BELONGED TO THE GOP MY ENTIRE LIFE, UNLIKE TRUMP. THIS NOVEMBER, I AM VOTING FOR A DECENT PERSON I DISAGREE WITH OVER POLICY. >> DOES THAT CARVE OUT SPACE FOR OTHER REPUBLICANS TO DO THE SAME? >> I THINK IT DOES. I REALLY APPLAUD THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE THAT IS THE VOICE THAT WE NEED FOR REPUBLICANS LIKE OLIVIA AND MYSELF, WHO HAVE NOT STEPPED FORWARD, TO STEP FORWARD, TO GIVE THEM THAT PERMISSION STRUCTURE, THAT IT IS OKAY. YOUR HOUSE WILL NOT CATCH ON FIRE. YOUR NEIGHBORS WILL NOT KICK YOU OUT. I MEAN, THIS IS THE PERMISSION STRUCTURE THAT YOU NEED. WE HAVE POLICY DISAGREEMENTS WITH A BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND CERTAINLY YOU CAN START FROM AFGHANISTAN OR YOU CAN GO TO ANY NUMBER OF ISSUES, HOWEVER I WAY THAT UP AGAINST THE GUY WHO SAYS HE WANTS TO BE A DICTATOR AND GUESS WHAT? BIDEN WINS EVERY TIME. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR. >> HE TALKS ABOUT CHARACTER AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY SHOULD BE SOMEONE WITH CHARACTER. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. I THINK WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS A LACK OF FEEDBACK ACROSS THE DEMOCRATIC -- REPUBLICAN PARTY FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN CO- OPTED DUE TO THEIR OWN CRAVING FOR STASHES -- STATURE. I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR GEOFF DUNCAN. IT IS HARD FOR THEM TO TAKE THAT STAND AND I'M GLAD HE IS WILLING TO BE CONSISTENT . HIS OWN FRIEND, GOVERNOR KENT, CERTAINLY WAS NOT. HE FELL BACK IN LINE, EVEN THOUGH HE FACED WHAT HAPPENED IN THE 2020 ELECTION, WHICH WAS SUPER DISAPPOINTING TO WATCH. HE KNOWS FIRSTHAND THE DANGER OF WHAT PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IS AND HOW HE CAN UNDERMINE DEMOCRACY. I SAW LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR GEOFF DUNCAN'S PREDECESSOR CALL HIM -- EVERY VILLAGE NEEDS A USEFUL IDIOT. I WOULD ARGUE AND FLIP THE SCRIPT AND SAY, ACTUALLY, I WOULD ARGUE AND SAY THAT THE IDIOT FOUND A USEFUL VILLAGE WITH ALL OF THESE COMPLICIT ENABLERS ACROSS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WHO REFUSE TO CHART A DIFFERENT PATH FOR THE PARTY. >> THEY THINK PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IS THE IDIOT AND -- I MEAN, THERE ARE MANY, MANY -- IT IS THE JEFF DUNCAN ENDORSEMENT. I HAVE NOT HEARD THEM TALK ABOUT OPENING OFFICES. THE THINGS YOU NEED TO DO TO WIN A CAMPAIGN ARE NOT HOLD RALLIES ON THE BEACH ON SATURDAY MORNING WHERE YOU SAY TENS OF THOUSANDS ARE COMING, BUT WE WILL CHECK THE NUMBERS WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT WE WILL HIT. THE WAY YOU WIN CAMPAIGNS IS YOU OPEN OFFICES AND YOU KNOCK DOORS AND YOU HIRE STAFF. YOU ORGANIZE AND DEMOCRATS IN INDIANA, THEY HAVE BEEN ORGANIZING. THEY GREW THEIR MARGINS IN MARION COUNTY IN 2020 AND INDIANA DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN TARGETING THAT PRAYER. MARION COUNTY IS WHERE NIKKI HALEY DID THE BEST. SHE POSTED ABOVE A 30 POINT PERFORMANCE IN THAT SPECIFIC COUNTY. TO ME, IF I AM A REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST -- I CANNOT EVEN -- IF IT WERE ME, I WOULD BE CONCERNED. >> THERE IS NO POLITICAL GROUNDING RIGHT NOW. I THINK EVERYONE, WHETHER IT IS THE ONLY TALKING POINTS THEY HAVE ARE THE ELECTION IS GOING TO BE STOLEN AGAIN AND EVERYBODY PREPARE -- THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THIS ELECTION INTEGRITY. I THINK THAT IS THEIR FOCUS. THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE, TALKING TO AMERICANS ABOUT THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO ABOUT THESE ISSUES YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT. YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT INFLATION? THEY ARE NOT EXPLAINING WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO TO FIX THE ECONOMY THAT THEY CLAIM PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN SO BAD AT, RIGHT? THEY ARE NOT ACTUALLY OUT THERE, CONNECTING WITH THE VOTERS LIKE THEY NEED TO BE. I HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE. THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO STAY BEHIND THIS LEADER AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO LOSE ELECTIONS BECAUSE OF IT. >> SO, WHY DO YOU ORGANIZE IF YOU WILL STEAL THE ELECTION ANYWAY? >> YOU ARE GOING TO LIE ABOUT IT ANYWAY. >> YOUR LEAD DOG IS SAYING HE HAS WON THE RACE AND IF IT IS NOT OFFICIAL COME NOVEMBER, THEN THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS RIGGED. WHY DO I NEED TO ORGANIZE IN INDIANA AND GEORGIA AND ARIZONA AND PENNSYLVANIA WHEN THE PLAN IS ALREADY
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Channel: MSNBC
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Keywords: Alicia Menendez, Symone Sanders-Townsend, Michael Steele
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Length: 9min 7sec (547 seconds)
Published: Sat May 11 2024
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