[Applause] [Music] so delighted to be here with all of you tonight to engage one of my favorite people in conversation dr. Zach we met a couple years ago yeah I remember it vividly we were at a conference not on like this and we had this amazing conversation it was completely unlike this was actually a friendship was born and we have gone on to have some of the most meaningful and impactful conversations I've ever had in my life and so it's a pleasure and an honor to be I'm here tonight to help share a little bit of that with everybody here so welcome and thank you I'm beyond honored to be here it's been overwhelming sitting through two days of these this caliber of human beings and the whole time thinking you're supposed to follow all that it's just really after that it's fair are you kidding me yeah what are we doing up there I don't I don't have any music videos not one we can work on that so zach is a triple board-certified physician which is a rare thing endocrinology and metabolism internal medicine and hospice and palliative care correct right hold it nailed it yeah but that's the least of what makes you unusual in my mind you're a very unconventional medical practitioner and I'm interested I think a good place to start would be to walk us through this evolution from being somebody who was reared in the conventional medical school paradigm into what I would characterize as a more more of a healer than yeah I think the seeds are always planted in our lives that we don't necessarily realize what they're planting I think this last discussion that we just heard with these vignettes of a woman's life that she recalls these poignant and painful moments and now here she is you know as a source of wisdom for Humanity through the collection of these seeds that are planted and I feel like you know any of us could tell that same story of our lives we had these seeds planted and wisdom comes out of pain wisdom comes out of loss somehow heart opens through heartbreak all of these you know weird dichotomies that happen in life and for me setting me up for that what would I had no idea that would be a transition from you know inside the box allopathic pharmaceutical doctor to a quack that early learning was really around just my nuclear family a wonderful parents incredible mom and dad grew up in low-income housing in Boulder and it's so interesting to remember back what it was used to be like a kid you don't you didn't know what you looked like right it's so interesting how bombarded our children are today with what they look like I mean they're selfing all the time they have this vision I was but in the late 60s and early 70s there weren't full-length mirrors at least not in low-income housing and so when you're three feet tall you literally don't have access to anything that would give you a reflection of yourself and and so I think I went through this wonderful point of life where I didn't know what I looked like I just know what it felt like to be me and a lot of what shaped that was my mother had an intractable seizure disorder a lot of epilepsy when I was growing up and so it was not an unusual scenario where we'd be at a grocery store and she'd start having a grand mal seizure and all the other taller people you don't even think of yourself as a kid right when your kids just like you're the short and they all these big people around you and all the big people would start freaking out and I would just sit down with my mom and put her in you know sit next to her head and and hold her hand or whatever until the seizure and so that planet is seated me I think of just like this awareness that to be with somebody who's in distress or having a crisis you just have to be present and it's a powerful thing and I would see all the big people settle down when I showed them that I wasn't scared and I knew how to take care of my mom and she having seizure that happened and and much more of life kind of unfolded in the years to come that took me way far away from the concept of medicine I didn't know that I was gonna be good at medicine I I consider myself kind of a B+ student a terrible test taker terrible guests are like if it was a multiple-choice test I was always like I'm going to fail this thing hated multiple-choice tests didn't do well with a lot of aspects of school so I just got into auto mechanics and so I built cars and tore cars apart with all my buddies and that was like what I thought I was gonna do but through one of those seasons planted the first girlfriend when I was very cool 18 years old or something like that and his first girlfriend ends up breaking my heart in a number of ways as if you can really have your heart broken by a girl when you're 18 but when you're 18 you're like I'm just devastated and I'm just like blown open I'm so dramatic and and so in that drama moment I decided I wasn't gonna go into my engineering program at cu-boulder and I was gonna go just traveller world and figure myself out kind of thing and within like minutes of that decision an aunt called up and was like you want to come to the Philippines and birth babies and I was like whoa that's like totally tripping cool yeah that sounds really interesting no medical experience didn't actually had a vague idea what babies were as the oldest of three kids as like they kind of come out and they turn into siblings and so I was like I have some experience I was like seeing three of things grow up seeing and I've seen them yeah and I hadn't really I don't think ever really held when I think maybe I held my my littlest brother when he was first born but got to the Philippines is 19 incredible experience and over those next six months all some of the most mind-blowing things saying the Rowdy is none of you would be sitting here right now listening to any of us if you could really wrap your mind around how miraculous you are there's there's just no way you would bother listening to anybody because what could anybody add to that miracle this woman sitting here this is beauty this woman here has 70 trillion cells and inside every one of those cells is six feet of DNA and if we strung her DNA and to end this beautiful woman here would wrap around mother earth two million times wrap around mother earth two million times and you have been knit together to live the life you've lived to touch the hands you've touched to hug the the people you've hugged to kiss the faces you've kissed and to do what you've done who could add to anything like that we are literal numerical miracles walking around and I got to see that in the Philippines and I watched in the most extreme poverty I'd ever been exposed to babies being born out of women who had nothing with such genuine hope and expectation of life and these tiny little babies four pound babies you know they can fit in your hand and then they go on to thrive and so that all of that planted a seed so that when allopathic medicine came along and said here's two thousand diseases here's two thousand drugs to treat those diseases go do it I went after that I was gonna totally go do that but when it didn't work when it started to fail eight years in I had those seeds of remembering to be really a great presence in somebody's life whose suffering and whose brain is totally dysfunctioning just be still silent and sitting next to them it's enough or witness a freaking miracle at any stage of life realized that whatever ridiculous training you might have can't add to that you can only be witness to that and so that set the stage and I still had no idea where that was gonna take me but I was willing to start to close the door on the allopathic world realizing I could study that the rest of my life I could get three more subspecialties because that's why I got three subspecialties I was looking for truth I was looking for some solid ground to stand on but during this period of time in which you're fully immersed in allopathic medicine you're practicing within the Western paradigm diagnosed prescribed was there a specific incident that made you realize you needed to course-correct or change your trajectory was or was it an evolution over time of what you were seeing on a daily basis like who was coming into your office what were you seeing and what triggered you to change this approach to healing and medicine it was an evolution and there was triggers that I think you know a couple of those events I was studying cancer developing chemotherapy at the time that was my research world and then clinically as an endocrinologist I've seen a lot of diabetes autoimmune disease alike and there was a moment where I was watching out of the microscope cancer cells infiltrating healthy tissue and all of you have actually seen a this exact image many many times all of you have flown so you could get to Nantucket and when you're flying and you're flying over a large city and you see the way in which highways shoot out from the cities and then we or housing and you know infrastructure around that is exactly the same shape as a cancer growing into healthy tissue and so when you see something like Dallas Texas growing into the the nature around it it looks for all the world as a cancer would grow exactly the same thing following the arterioles of blood supply nutrients nervous systems of communication and so I was staring out this experiencing this and then ran over to the clinic and jumped into my white coat put on a stethoscope so it looked like I knew what I was talking about and then jumped into this seat and this guy can't who I'd never seen before was sitting on the other side it's like are you in the wrong clinic I'm dr. Busch I don't think I've met you and he's like well I just had a really urgent problem anyway he pulls up his pant leg and he's got this diabetic ulcer in the side of his leg that's just horrible like just losing all kinds of horrible gross stuff and so I get down in this after wagger than all the equipment together started to breathing and just clearing out this all sir just try to get this guy stabilized until he can have a definitive surgery or something like that and there came a mom when I was scraping away at this healthy tissue and suddenly there was the exact same image of this necrotic dead diabetic ulcer sitting in the midst of this healthy tissue looked exactly like the cancer and at that moment suddenly realized I wonder if we were just calling these things a bunch of different names and in fact it's all the same freakin thing what if there's just lack of healthy tissue and then you develop disease and that sounds so freaking obvious but it was very profound to a mind that had a belief that disease is kind of snuck up on you and infiltrated your system and you could get infections or you could get cancer or you get you know autoimmune diseases and they sneak up on you and the realization that we would we would make vulnerabilities within our body for these things to come and take up space was just flipped it all on its head yeah it's almost in a perspective that's rooted in Ayurveda in that the the body has a certain balance that it's trying to strike and when that balance is out of whack or certain systems are out of balance you create the opportunity for certain diseases like this to appear exactly right and I think that that ends up being you fast forward my clinic that I run is called the M clinic we picked the letter M because it's the center of all of the spoken and written alphabets as a letter in it and so I figured it must represent the the balance point of communication and had by this time decided that all disease is created or the opportunity for disease created by a lack of communication and so that we could find a center point of communication around the letter M and then find out that bizarrely that will sound of mmm is the sound of creation and so the ohm that we create and so what if the sound of creation was the center point of communication and so that all kinds of fascinating things about that M in addition to or one of them being that it's the only letter that represents the masculine and the feminine and so that's kind of you just nailed it in that Ayurveda 5,000 years of Chinese medicine as well all of these have been speaking of balance and there is not a single pharmaceutical drug you can take that puts you into balance it is an inherently man-made artificial chemical therefore was able to be patented and turned into a multibillion-dollar drug that drug as it enters your body is a foreign invader it's going to create imbalance at every level it's why every commercial for a drug has to have 15 seconds of disclaimer at the end spoken very quickly it says it's going to cause erectile dysfunction acne and death but at least your blood pressure would be good you know and so yeah that the reality is we are creating imbalance by looking at human beings as a source of disease rather than a vessel for health right the difference between the paradigm of diagnose and prescribe a disease model versus the study of what what what what are the pinnacles of health like what constitutes how with a capital H so how do you define health health is defined simply at its lowest or most common denominator as fully connected to nature if a cell is fully connected to its nature and has unfettered access to information it will forever be healthy you can injure it all day long you can give it radiation and it will repair at an insane rate now and if you got so lucky as to repair it and injure it so badly couldn't repair itself it would simply commit suicide through apoptosis our program sells suicide and in the process calling a stem cell to replace it it's literally an infinite source of life is a healthy cell and that's so health in the end is are you completely connected to your nature and do you have unfettered access information yeah it's beautifully put and I think telescoping out from that I want to get into the relationship between human health and environmental health like we tend to think of human health in isolation under a microscope under this sort of you know binary perspective of scientific inquiry but much of what you talk about and much of your focus is on looking at the holistic nature of this environment within which you know that we that we share within which we live so talk a little bit about the relationship between environmental degradation and the escalation of some of these chronic illnesses that we're seeing at disproportionate rates right now yeah to believe this information was we can back up for a moment to a huge topic that's blown up for the last ten years which is the microbiome and the microbiome has become a catchphrase that's even in your you know women's journals on the next to the grocery store line everything else you don't have to go to medical literature and the more to hear about the microbiome it's really telling because dove just came out with a so dove friendly to the microbiome huh if if that's what your shampoo bottle says now that means that we no longer in a scientific description of microbiome it is now a fad so friendly to the microbiome soap is not true like that that's just not how soap works and so we can ignore that little factoid and just take it as the whole population has come to embrace the concept of the microbiome unfortunately neither doctors in order the consumer has any idea what the microbiome really is it's just a vague sense of whether there's lots of good bacteria and the leap forward there was of course the probiotic probiotic industry which turns out as a scientific disaster a medical disaster it was 37 billion dollar marketing campaign there's not good science behind the probiotic industry but all of that said at least it broke the door open to the possibility that there was good bacteria out there because up until the probiotics we really there was this manifest you know just belief that all bacteria were bad and so you saw the burst of anti microbial everything right yeah anti microbial baby wipes yet into microbial alcohol pumps every time you walk into the grocery store before you touch that grocery cart you got a anti microbial wipe and you're wiping that off and so we developed you know over over a hundred and twenty years we developed a belief that bacteria we're gonna attack us and kill us bacteria it turns out are just the very tip of the iceberg of this thing we call the microbiome it is the microbial life that creates soil it secretes the air we breathe it creates the bodies that we thrive in it's certainly we all come to understood constitutes the gut right and so the the bacteria of your small intestine and colon but yep bacteria all through your sinuses through the mouth and oral structures all of your skin under your eyelids but the bacteria you've got about twenty or thirty thousand species on a human body some people think it's gonna be maybe 40 50 that's a lot of species and then you see how many of those species you find out that this woman has 70 trillion cells as pointed out but she's carrying her it's 1.5 quadrillion bacteria that's incredible but the bacteria are outnumbered another tenfold by parasites and parasites there's 300,000 species of the parasites we fear and we think oh you don't want to get a parasite you go to India you're probably to get a parasite bah bah so they have this concept that parasites are somehow over in India and you know no there's 300 thousand species of parasite they probably are right there certainly indeed yeah they just travel through seasonally but no they there's actually parasites everywhere and there's these cool little parasites that live under every healthy eyelid that looks a little like a worm with this freaky face on it and without that guy living on your eyelid you're actually a very prone to disease and so we have a well that's yesterday say something friendly to your eyelid worms tonight and so the parasites again are outnumbered radically by the fungi and so we now are estimating around 5 million species of fungi you go to your Trader Joe's and you see that you've got moisture mushrooms and shiitake or like a nice grocery store through three species of fungi now there's five million species of fungi we're scratching the surface with our culinary adventures five million species of fungi when you start to really calculate that up you start to realize how vastly outnumbered the humanity is were one species and Homo sapiens sapiens we named herself wise twice which I think just as inherently unwise like at some point that same state rated like any rate Homo sapiens sapiens we would decode at our genome and found that there was 20,000 genes and that's horribly bad news for a wide species because shortly before we decoded the human genome we found out the fruit fly had 13,000 genes and we had found out that the flea had 30,000 genes and so to find out the human falls somewhere between a flea and a fruit fly frankly a little close to the fruit fly seemed like we got a real short deck it's like we were expecting 280 thousand genes and we had 20 and so this was like 1996 1998 blew apart the whole concept of genome and DNA because suddenly we realized we were wrong because Watson and Crick found the double helix and we had known what a gene was and that gene could go on to make one RNA which would go on to make one protein and we knew we had 280 thousand different proteins and so surely we had to have enough genes to make all of the human body and to find out that we were that missing of genomic data sent us back to the drawing board and suddenly we had created this whole new belief of epigenetics and epigenetics became this understanding that each gene could be manipulated to create different outcomes meaning an imagined a blueprint of a house being able to build 200 different houses and that's exactly how it turns out and so each gene in your body you've got 20,000 but each of those two now make over 200 different gene products depending on your environment and so by 2000 we were starting to realize when we are super plastic and we get these genes from mom we get these genes from dad and then from there on out the ecology plays with them the ecology is manipulating and moving that what you're going to become if you do the math each one of you with the genes that you got from mom and dad could put out 4 million different variants of you depending on your environment yeah and then this gets more crazy because recently we found out that there's 98% of your genome I mentioned that this woman wraps around Mother Earth 2 million times it's kind of mind-blowing amount of DNA that DNA that wraps around Earth 2 2 million times 98.5 percent of it does not code for a gene and so we very obviously came to the clear conclusion that that was junk DNA lots of waste because when you look out at nature it's just like 98.5 percent junk everywhere just waste waste waste but we didn't know what it was we called it junk DNA and then just in the last couple of years we find out that that 98.5 percent of the gene is actually coding for these tiny little nucleotide sequences that we call micro RNA now that do something very crazy for genetic information is that they leave the cell and so your genome starts to permeate the space around the cell that would have the nucleus that contained this chromosome that held the DNA and it's now leaking out of that cell and the micro RNA is now permeating your whole body it got crazier though when we realized that the micro RNA wasn't even contained to the body and it could leave in in the the little back hills within this life of my mouth and suddenly I could it could go airborne in the air that I breathe out and that micro RNA is being breathed in by all of you and so I have genetically modified every one of you you guys are all leaving as GMOs yeah every one of you is a genetically modified organism and the one I'm having the most influence on you is the one you're swapping saliva with the most and interestingly it's not just the human there that's creating that that shift the micro RNA go on to determine what genes are gonna turn on in these vastly different spaces and so you could turn on genes different than you would have if I hadn't shown up and so you're genetically responding to me and that's fascinating because in that journey we're realizing I'm ten to one bacteria to human and if we looked at this woman's blood stream right now we'd find out that forty percent of the genetic micro RNA switches in her bloodstream isn't even human it's bacteria fungi and the microbiomes information turning this woman into somebody different and so that's where we ran into this collision of moments that you just asked about which is as we destroy ecology and we find out that ecology is modifying the human genome there's got to be a crisis point where the human genome can no longer produce intelligent health and we run into this zero point of destruction of biology on the planet and a great extinction occurs mmm-hmm he had to ground this in the themes of of tnp connectivity community communication you know at a very top level you're dealing with these very same subject matters on the micro level so when we consider the fact that we are much more micro organism than we are human that we are breathing out this RNA and we are literally connecting ourselves to our community in a very unconscious way I think for me what that does is it it helps me to realize that that we're not as sentient as we think we are and that are our survival and our ability to thrive is so deeply interconnected to everything that surrounds us and you know I've heard you speak about treating patients with all the right things lifestyle diet etc and not getting results and coming to this conclusion that the reason you weren't seeing these results was because the food was being sourced from soil that was depleted and the point being that we cannot isolate ourselves out of our environment and treat these conditions in isolation we have to consider everything in the whole and disease as a function of a lack of communication and connectivity and the journey towards health is what we've been speaking about all weekend which is about embracing community and growing closer to not just our environment but the people that we love and the new people that we're bringing into our lives and this is what is happening on a cellular level that's exactly accurate I believe I think it's fascinating to think that here we are each of you sitting next to each other are genomically enriching one another you're changing each other genetically and so there's a there's an invisible communication network going on in this room that doesn't happen on a zoom conference that doesn't happen across a Twitter feed and so it's interesting to think as we digitize human communication we're losing genetic swapping we're becoming genetically isolated as beings as we lose touch as we lose face-to-face communication by the way every time I talk to you for a couple of hours I always try to go run faster the next day because I just hope I breathe than the right RNA I keep I'm the subject of human touch who here is has received a hug from Zack over the last couple days he's a pretty amazing he likes to hug for a long time but go ahead it's it's it's my version of highway robbery like I'm just like genomically sucking you in and you're like that's a long hug I'm like that's a really freaking short genetic infusion no that's really good stuff so communicating by touch is interesting but it gets really weird now that we're looking beyond the genomics now let's let's go into the human gut and so this woman here another beautiful woman it's really nice to be arrayed around around stage with beautiful people all around I got to say this is a really unique thing because often times is you're looking out at lights and you just see a dark audience so thank you for whoever designed this room this is the most beautiful speaking experience I've had just cuz I can see each of you so wow this woman has an intestinal membrane all of you do this isn't supposed to be like a gross thing about her she has an intestinal membrane that covers two tennis courts and surface area and it looks like a coral reef and so if we put all of your intestines together I'm really big into macro examples because just most of these things don't make any sense on the micro level but if we put all of your intestinal linings together right now we could cover that entire Bay in human intestine and it's a fascinating coral reef that looks just like a coral reef with all these fingers that ornately reach out to suck nutrients out of the ocean you're sucking nutrients out of the food that you just ingested in the last couple hours and you're becoming enriched by this experience and your colon is sucking water your colon sole job is to suck water out of your your nutritional input that's fascinating so the water is just as important if not the most important part of consumption of nutrients so you need a cucumber and you absorb all those micronutrients from the small intestine and then the water from that cucumber sucked in by the colon and you end up with this hyper intelligence that's been sucked out of there because along that journey the microbes have changed every nutrient changed the whole experience and what we're now finding is we're getting better better doing micro imaging of the gut lining is that the neurons that innervate you that to test quartz and surface area have to be so numerous for one part then the number of nerves in a single human intestinal lining constitutes the size of a dog's brain and so it's a massive neural center that is your gut and so this whole concept that every woman knows is the way to a man's brain is through his stomach is actually know that is his brain like it's not like Roo there you get to the brain like that's the brain and so you get to the brain and it's so interesting how fast that happens because we've now been able to image that the human neurons are reaching up to the intestines largely to get serotonin and dopamine serotonin and we think of as being this brain neurochemical but it turns out that 90 percent of the serotonin made in the human body is made in the gut lining enteric endocrine cells that little Ghostbuster looking greens globules that are they are there cranking out serotonin the nerves reach up and grab all that information and then we just found out just in the last couple years that your enteric endocrine system can't make serotonin if you don't have the right bacteria sitting on top of that human cell and so it takes a it takes a bacteria to inform a human endocrine cell to make the neurons to go into the brain but then it got weirder that ucsf just showed that the brain actually sends neurons past the gut lining itself right into the like this is so bizarre like you're now thinking all the time you're just like encased in this milieu of great poop and the origins of life you can imagine there than thousands of species of bacteria and fungi and parasites and nutrients composting at high speeds and your brain wanted to know what that was going on there so just grew neurons into that at the same time same journal actually published that the ion channel in the surface of those particular neurons are totally different than the ion channels in the brain they actually designed the human neuron designed its ion channels to mimic the design of the ion channels on the surface of the bacteria your gut what I'm describing is you asked what is this Nantucket project version of human anatomy as we now understand it and the answer is the neighborhood is not human the neighborhood is hundreds of thousands of species with a genome that's so much more vast than ours and a neuro chemistry that's active straight to our brain as we start to study the brain more and more we realize there is no center of memory for long-term memory in the human brain totally bizarre if the brain doesn't store your long term memory where is that stored okay so you got a hard drive somewhere you've got some RAM we've just the hippocampus is tiny little area of the brain that that short-term memory stick of the computer but where the hard drive sits nobody knows and so I mean I do obviously but most people don't and so and so you've got the situation where you realize this is just the central processing unit it's not the hardware of and the CPU chip of your computer the CPU has never written a term paper or a book interesting the CPU chip in your computer's actually never created a piece of data or information all it is is the central processing unit the brain looks to be only a central processing unit it can't have a taste it can't have a smell it can't have a thought it can't have anything it's just the CPU chip it then sends out wires and so you've got sitting on your desk a keyboard which did write the tarrant term paper no keyboard has never written a term paper the keyboard just sits there until somebody comes and types a thought into that keyboard and then all those digits digital signals go to the CPU chip and process that and now you can print something we're now finding out that the fingers typing on your keyboard are not human fingers the microbiome is literally typing on a toot escort surface area keyboard to tell your brain what's going on and what it should think I feel like that should depress me I don't know how to take that information but what I gather have a thought yeah I waiting for my I'm supposed to switch seats here right let's do that let me get wrap my head around what you just said what I take from that is that we are less human than we would like to believe that we are I know there are studies that track the relationship between the nature of our microbiome and the foods that we crave or the impulses that we entertain and these are things that we like to think were consciously creating or unconsciously creating but which are innately human and to discover that they are not begs the question of the nature of consciousness itself right from whence does consciousness arise and is human consciousness something that can be characterized or defined as individuated or is it something more pervasive and elusive that has its roots and its nature in this community of microorganisms that permeates all I think you just nailed it I'm asking you a question [Laughter] isn't it so typical of a species that calls itself homeless Homo sapiens sapiens - then coined the term human consciousness as if the CPU chip ever wrote the paper right as if the human brain would ever create consciousness I really at this stage of especially in my hospice work it's the most obvious it at this second birth that we have which is often termed death which is really bad PR manager and better marketing for death is definitely rebirth and the longer you do hospice work and the more times you get to sit at the bedside of somebody who's who's in this transformation event the last transformation they get to do in this body they're now doing in front of your eyes and they do some crazy wonderful stuff they will say some of the most profound stuff you've ever heard they will say some of the most vulnerable things you've ever heard and they will definitely bring to clarity the value that their life has had regardless of how worthless they thought their life was up until that moment during that transformation they see value in their life and you see it all stripping away and it's at the moment that their neuro chemistry is literally shutting down their brain has failed and at that moment they light you up with this consciousness this conscious awareness that's just blindingly cool this this moment of clarity only coming when they let go of their firmly held belief system that is human they're firmly health held beliefs of their roles and their purpose in their community and the the identity that they've allowed that world to create for them finally starts to inevitably fall apart as the neuro chemistry and the heart starts to fail and everything shutting down and that's when they get the most clarity they've ever had and what is how do you characterize that clarity what is that clarity it is consciousness at its at its raw state the human is dissolving and the consciousness is just there it's been there the whole time but the human can you imagine what we do as parents can you imagine what we do as a society these infants are born out of this infinite potential of life and they come springing out with 70 trillion cells and connected to some sort of soul that has a purpose that's picked this path and picked their whole journey is laid out before them and then within minutes we start programming them we start deprogramming them of truth and beauty and the miracle fact that they are alive and start tagging them with information I'm your dad you believe you're a dad until you have a second kid and then you're suddenly like I have nothing to do with this thing right my son was like so radical when he was born as it's like he literally freaked us out like he came out with his hands crossed like this and eyes wide open he's like already wiser than I was and I was pretty young when I had him like I'd like to tell people I was like 4 when I had him because he's 21 now and it freaks me out but he's now I watch him go from that to the human being is and he's got this preternatural like age to him from the day one and then I had my daughter and she's just like this like bundle of joy just like enthusiasm joy wants to talk about nothing terribly serious and doesn't want to get too deep on anything but wants to just be a source of joy for the world that's when you realize the only thing I can do as a parent is really screw this thing up because I don't know where this thing came from and I don't know where it's heading and I have no idea why it showed up and so at that point you should really take this massive dose of humility and just be like I just need to create some safe space around this thing the best of my ability and I'm just gonna like try to feed it a couple times a day stand back and see what happens cuz I can't do much more help to that and that that technique has worked pretty well so I call it kind of like unparent announced coolers but just unpair it's just stay out of the way and these things come out and then it takes them a whole freakin lifetime to realize that they're not a Sun they're not a daughter they're not an aunt or an uncle or a grandparent or an employee or a boss or a CEO or a garbage man or whatever thing we layered this up and then it takes a whole lifetime to start to try to drill down through all those layers of human that we put on top of raw miracle and the consciousness that's sitting there that whole time I think is just begging for attention and all of us get those conscious moments the poets that have shared with us this week you guys are tapping into consciousness and it's not cumin it's not him and you say things that are too trippy to be human your your some more alien than you are human we should talk about aliens in other times good subject but right now we're in the microbiome and so you're you start to realize console on the microbiome yeah well you know you got to stay rooted where you're at so you go stay in the soil stand the dirt you gotta stay in the and so the microbiome is always there to inform the consciousness until human behavior comes along to inflict itself on the microbiome and we started doing this in the late 1800s Luis Pasteur became famous for pasteurization and so we started pasteurizing our food to kill all the bacteria in the food was the idea in the late eighteen hundreds of course now you can't buy almonds that haven't been pasteurized as ridiculously we try to annihilate all bacteria and when we do that we wipe out the consciousness that would be programming your brain and so as we load the food system with anti microbials herbicides in particular and we grow an entire food system that is steeped in a chemical herbicide pesticide environment as soon as you eat a piece of food now in fact you don't have to eat food anymore we've so in infiltrated the ecology with herbicides and pesticides primary number one chemical worldwide as far as I'm concerned some around four and half billion pounds when roughly last counted in 2015 so we were doubling that rate every six years and so maybe we were between four and a half and six billion pounds of this chemical which is patented as an antibiotic not as a weed killer and we pour that antibiotic into the soils and it happens to be water soluble and so again sucked up in the water systems of our planet and we start to see it evaporated in the air and now 75 percent of the air we breathe the United States of contaminate we round up the air we breathe and then it gets up in a cloud and it rains back down 75 percent it rain we soak in is contaminated with roundup and so it's raining on us we're breathing it what does that mean for the whole system it means that the microbiome is being crushed it's crushed in the air that we should be breathing it's crushed at the soil level it's crushed in the microbial environment it's crushed in your gut the ramifications for human consciousness if we're going to call it that are pretty significant we now know that one course of antibiotics for a urinary tract infection and a woman will increase her risk of major depression by 24 percent the next 12 months if she goes back in to the doctor's office within that year and gets a second course of antibiotics maybe for bronchitis she now has a 54 percent increase and likely to major depression in the next 12 months two courses of antibiotics risk of anxiety and panic attack goes up by 17 percent with one course 44 percent with two courses of antibiotic if you destroy the microbiome your sense of connected connectivity to the world around you disappears loneliness literally results from an antibiotic exposure and I want you guys to be aware of this next time somebody whacks you with an antibiotic pay attention I want you to feel what it feels like to disconnect from the environment around you because a moment before that if you got it last year you would have just thought I'm depressed now but now you go in consciously and you get that experience you say I'm not I'm just disconnected I'm just lonely I just got isolated now it's not your problem now this isn't a character flaw depression is the result of isolation loneliness at the cell level disconnect from the micro biome and isn't it amazing we find out the same thing about cancer cancer we now understand is the result of a disconnect from the micro biome and it's very specific we now know if you miss these bacteria in the gut you're going to get breast cancer you lose these bacteria you're gonna get colon cancer lose these you get lung cancer the microbiome is programming our consciousness but it also is the communication network of cellular repair itself and so as you delete out the anti microbial world we live in delete out the microbiome isolation is inevitable I believe we have created the phenomenon Facebook and the phenomenon of Twitter and the rest as an antidote to antibiotics and the isolation that resulted from them we would have never seen the reason to connect through a damn cell phone when we can simply look look up at the person across the table and talk but now you see kids it's not unusual to see group of 16 kids outside and these girls won't even look at their friends they're with and their their their snapchatting the girl that's right in front of them that's how isolated and lonely she feels she has brought lying on this insane amount of Technology in her hand to make this little human connection of looking somebody in the eye blessed the person who said look each other in the eye yesterday whenever that was what a beautiful neurochemical event happens when we look each other in the eye and so we see cancer as the endpoint of isolation a cancer cell has become so isolated and lonely in its existence that it doesn't even know that the rest of the organism has survived it thinks it's the last semblance of life in the organism and the only thing it can do now because it's so damaged it can't repair the which cancer cell has 20,000 genetic unrepaired genetic injuries in it I mentioned we only have 20,000 genes so there's just injuries all over the genome of a cancer cell I can't repair itself so the last semblance of life that it can do is divided and so just starts dividing and advising divides just saying life is more important than anything else I find it fascinating that a cell that thinks everything else around it has died and it's so injured that it cannot repair still has a drive for life mm-hmm you are but it's gonna take everyone else down with it it doesn't know the same way that it does damage human I hang my who is connected and depressed right isolated and lonely and then we dam that guy who climbs the tower in Vegas and shoots 250 strangers because he's the cancer so at the macro level he's so isolated that he doesn't even understand he's part of a larger organism called homo sapien he doesn't understand that he's he's not alone and he thinks he just needs to have an emotional experience and so he's creating this through a violent outpouring this kid who walks into the elementary school and starts shooting his classmates is trying to induce an experience in his body to just experience something because it is so numb in its isolation it is so quiet and silent and isolated and lonely in its isolation and so imagine if you walked in with a new diagnosis of breast cancer and the doctor just wrapped you up in a giant hug and said you are extraordinarily beautiful you are made out of the fabric of life itself you are drive for life at the fabric level and now there's this tiny little one cell out of your 70 trillion cells that got so lonely and isolated that it forgot or doesn't know that you still are here and it still wants you to be alive and so it's gonna start dividing at all costs it's gonna try to stay alive and now we just need to let that cell know that it's part of a greater community we need to let it plug back in we need to reconnect that human cell and it will stop being a cancer yourself and that's exactly what we see out of the microscope when you take a human cell and you add back the communication network of the microbiome we extract these little communication molecules they're literally we have the great description of silicon today and what the heck is Silicon Valley and all this that description of silicon melted down sand into that ore and it's sliced thin and then we create microchips and everything else turns out that the bacteria and the fungi are making at the molecular level a silicon base they're making these tiny little carbon and not silicon in this case it's carbon matrix that can pass electrons through vast distances they build liquid circuit boards across biology so that it can communicate and do brilliant hyper-intelligent stuff this is what we call quorum sensing in the microbiome world where a single bacteria growing a petri dish doesn't do anything much intelligent it just eats and kind of poops out some metabolites and just grows and splits and splits but suddenly when it starts the sense that the community is that it's it's its proper maximum number as it fills the petri dish it sends out a global signal it says we're full and everything stopped they all stopped proliferating they don't overcrowd and they suddenly start acting as a hyper intelligent being and the quorum starts to do things that you would never expect from a single bacteria and this is what we see happening as you reconnect a cancer cell it suddenly realized it's part of a 70 trillion cell quorum and it literally does the silent suicide moment it just apatow says it says oh thank god zach still here zach still here oh my god I thought he was dead I'm so glad he's alive that's beautiful I'm just gonna go to sleep now I was so damaged I was so freaking tired to begin with I'm just so damaged on this old vulnerable cell I'm so glad Zach's good I'm gonna kill myself so it goes through this app Atossa thing and of course I do need another kid you cells so the stem cell comes in and makes me a new kidney cell there I never knew I aim and had cancer but the microbiome reconnected to that cancer cell this they threw how does it reconnect it through this matrix is liquid circuit board of intelligence that's made by the microbiome and so now we have to like we have to zoom forward for a moment cuz I got to leave you guys all with with some really depressing news and I apologize that but I all of this sounds like an interesting thought experiment all this so far sounds like oh that's kind of weird mind blowing I don't I will never be able to communicate any of that that he just said to anybody I know and that's too bad cuz it sounded kind of cool but I want to tell you what we've done to the microbiome and as the liquid circuit board collapsed I want you to tell you we're Homo sapiens sapiens right now because we've gotten pictures of it all weekend as our First Nation people sitting in the back here have told us their peoples are dying of suicide at an extreme rate the cancer cells of an isolated human being when it commits suicide is a graceful event it is them saying I'm the cancer so I'm so damaged I cannot repair anymore I'm so hurt I'm gonna get out of the way for the rest of humanity that's an isolated should be cancer cell but instead of going and doing a school shooting it says I'm just gonna get out of the way I'm gonna I'm gonna commit suicide we've been talking about suicide here tonight and throughout the weekend I would just anybody who has lost somebody to suicide I want you to know that that person was trying to do what they thought was the most graceful exit they could they were trying to get themselves out of way for life to happen they had lost track they were so disconnected and I know that it was a selfish act and the devastated everybody else around them and I know all of that but just know that it was the most altruistic thing that they could do from that position of damage and loneliness in a very bizarre way suicide is an a scream for love into the universe around us it isn't I love you even though I can't love you or I love you so much that I'm gonna get out of the way that's the mentality of this cell that and I want you to know the state of where we are so that we can start to tap into consciousness and lose the concept in the end hubris of human consciousness and just start to see consciousness rising on the planet we have so devastated through our farming and agricultural and medical systems as they have collided with their antimicrobial behavior we have so destroyed biology on earth at its core level now that one in 30 children are now born with or moving into shortly after birth they will have an autism injury one in 30 children that numbers irrelevant to the human experience but I'll tell you that in 1975 the year before we created roundup before we started infiltrating the entire soil system of the earth with an anti microbial one in 5,000 children had autism one in 5,000 in 1975 to one in 30 today the steepest climb in this autistic curve didn't happen in the 70s when we maybe weren't quite as aware of the condition because one in 5,000 kids at the steepest is happening right now we are doubling our rates of autism every three years we are now at one in 30 we will be at one in 15 by the mid-2020s here we are on track to have one in three children in the United States with an autism spectrum disorder by 2035 which sounds a long ways off to most of our brains but that's 15 years to more American presidents and we could have one in three children with autism at the same rate we have seen 5x of ALS ms celiac disease and then the other neurodegenerative that we see it going in the elderly Parkinson's and males Alzheimer's and women 5x in the last 15-20 years we are becoming so disconnected that biology is literally collapsing beneath our feet my team from our lab was just talking to the EPA a couple weeks ago and we were showing them data that is so damming to round up we have shown them that and this isn't just my lab we were presenting all the data but a lot of university labs have been doing this work to show that if you inject a mouse or rodent with a little bit of roundup about the amount you would see in a couple days of nutritional consumption you injected it under their skin they live a totally normal life they don't have any injury from it and so it must be a super safe compound just injected right under the skin right into their bloodstream they're fine but then if you follow their pups the next generation is suddenly struck with massive obesity immune dysfunction and metabolic collapse a lot of lots of stuff happening in the second generation know roundup injury to that generation they just sorry back down one generation in it the third generation is born stillborn severe dura birth defects or or cancer within the first few months of life the third generation of roundup babies you know we really saturate our food system in 1996 and so 24 years is kind of the full generation and so you can see by 2015 we see the second generation being born of course in that journey we were already seeing this explosion of obesity and autoimmune disease and everything we saw in the mice but the third generation will be born in this next few years the third generation of humans born into the round of error are upon us they will look as the experiments have all played out as the most damaged an injured population we've ever seen we are on the verge of the biggest Holocaust that will ever happen to the human species seven billion people will be witness to one in three children with autism seventy to eighty percent of our adults with cancer at that moment and the highest rates of infertility ever seen we've lost 57 percent of sperm counts in all Western countries in just 40 years sperm counts have dropped by 57% one in three males is now infertile by sperm count in Western nations if we do that one more time we will reach an extinction level of 90 95 percent infertility crippled with the disease's I've laid out for you what I just gave you is an apology to this woman for being such a pain in the ass and I'm still talking to me yeah you're doing your job we do have to round this up and this is that is this is quite a dystopian picture that you're painting for us right here and I would like to let everyone go tonight feeling feeling a little bit hopeful so I know you have words that you could share on that as well so maybe we could hit it a little bit here and land the plane I know you have an advocate you guys have an advocate here minutes thank you rich thank you all for your patience and get up and leave no problems no offense at all if it wasn't the survival of our species I wouldn't be torturing you and those uncomfortable chairs right now but what I just gave you what I just told you is humanity has a terminal disease and as you're almost piss doctor right at the moment I would like to tell you you have the best opportunity you've ever had you're in your life to become the most human you've ever been if we as a human species step into this moment and drop all of the stories we've been telling each other some great stories this weekend it's important to tell our story it's important to know our history but we don't transform we don't really evolve past our story we can be defined by our story we cannot transform and evolve past our story until we let go of it completely I just told you the story of humanity as it's been written we could believe that story and we could just live by that and it will fall out just as we've talked or we could acknowledge the story and say we're gonna let go of our identity we're gonna let go of our belief systems we're gonna let go of our behaviors and we're gonna be willing to be a completely new blank canvas to Planet Earth itself because in the end what I have told you tonight is human consciousness is not at all human humanity I believe is at the center point of all of life on earth for the reason that we've been given the opportunity to be the CPU chip for the planet Mother Earth is rising again in an extraordinary moment of extinction 20 every 20 minutes and other species goes extinct every 20 minutes we've lost 40% of biology on earth in the last 50 years we're almost halfway done with this great extinction and you showed up right the frick now 7 billion people showed up right now at the tipping point of 200000 years of homo sapien to be a fresh canvas and the leaders among us will be the autistic children because when an autistic kid is supported back to health that kid can never be programmed with the current paradigm they refuse they don't even have the right wiring to accept it and so I am asking every one of you to look deep into yourself and become as autistic as possible tonight stop believing what the world wants you to feel and feel real tonight because in that if you are willing to really feel what it's like to be human right now you will feel agony you will feel pain you will feel isolation you will feel loneliness and you will feel unbelievable hope and you will feel unbelievable love percolating up through mother earth or self which is saying wake up you're on Hospice you've got six months to live you have a terminal diagnosis that cannot be cured and so you need to let that body die and become something new and so each of you will participate in the biggest transformation event that has ever happened when you completely let go of who you think you are today and talk to the people who you love next to you and say will you please bargain with me today will you please sit down and brainstorm with me today on how we can be a completely different relationship tomorrow I would like to have a completely different relationship with you rich tomorrow I would like to just forget that we've ever done podcast together I would like to just let all those stories that have caught people's attention before and just look you deeper into the your experience in your soul and say what could create bigger what could we create cleaner than what we've told before because you and I are more beautiful than we know and you and I could create something more beautiful indeed in just our love for one another and we could just let all of the beliefs of what if you weren't rich role at all what if we stopped calling you rich what if you stop seeing me as Zack and what if we just said holy human being you are so glorious thank you for being with me thank you for sharing this evening with me I would like to finish it with another hug we could do that thank you you
