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It's surprising how rare it is for the left to actually go in on the Saudi Arabian royal family like this. Their entire, brutally regressive, power structure rests on private ownership of an extremely polluting resource, they foster islamophobia in the West and destabilize the Middle East, they head what is essentially an American extraction colony, the list goes on: it's a perfect shitstorm for every single leftist cause to rally behind and from what I've seen it could find a ton of public support.

👍︎︎ 34 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ May 27 2019 🗫︎ replies

The WWE/Saudi Arabia relationship is bad for the entire world. And this is coming from me, a major wrestling fan.

The wrestlers are already overworked. The last thing they need is another random pay-per-view. There's a dumbass "wildcard rule" in WWE in which certain wrestlers will appear on both major shows. This was especially terrible last week because there was a pay-per-view event on Sunday (which had wrestlers take some crazy hits and bumps), a TV event on Monday, and a TV event on Tuesday. This isn't even talking about the shows that are not televised. Luckily, the wrestlers are working very safely at non-televised events, but the fatigue still weighs down on them and ends up with many of them working injured (and without healthcare, if that needed to be said). These wrestlers love to wrestle and hate being injured. So, you have overworked wrestlers working safer than they want to (and smart-ass fans like me can see it), wrestlers working injured (and without healthcare), and wrestlers being taken away from what they love doing by being in a hospital bed or physical therapy.

The wrestlers are not in favor of this. Currently, you have Aleister Black not going to Super Showdown because he's basically a Satanist with certain provocative tattoos, John Cena is not going but John Cena is barely on TV these days so it doesn't say much, Daniel Bryan is not going because he doesn't support it at all, Sami Zayn is not going because he's Syrian and doesn't support it, Kevin Owens is not going mainly to stand with Sami but he also doesn't support it. I still don't understand how they are against Aleister Black, but are completely fine with The Undertaker (over his career, The Undertaker has nailed someone to a cross, had a gimmick named "Big Evil", and had a time where he had Satanic powers to call down fire and lightning (wrestling is weird).

And WWE refuses to listen to their fans. You can see this in their storyline writing as well as this Saudi deal. Vince McMahon is basically on record in saying that he knows what the fans want better than what they say they want. Ratings have been down for WWE for a long time because of this. Yet, if you watch their special show, NXT, the matches there are at a ridiculous high level of quality, less people are injured (or if they are, they are usually still seen on camera in a non-violent sort of way), and it's just an all around better experience.

Ultimately, I blame Vince McMahon for all of this. I could blame Paul Levesque for some of it, but I know this company is ran by Vince McMahon primarily. Vince needs to stop taking blood money deals in supporting power hungry nations, let his wrestlers have a say in what they want to do in the ring (I wonder how feasible a wrestler union would be), and listen to the fans rather than himself and the shareholders.

What's most surprising is that the stereotype of only "rednecks" being the type of people to enjoy wrestling is very far from the truth. In fact, I've noticed that many wrestling fans (this is more common in countries outside the US) are often very left-leaning. Wrestling is becoming a bigger deal in Europe and independent wrestling in general is becoming massive deal. All Elite Wrestling, a company that has a very internet based following and just had their second show, just sold out a major arena in Las Vegas. This company has been pressured to offer healthcare to their wrestlers, but I understand if they haven't done it yet. All Elite Wrestling is almost the epitome of company ran out of your home.

TL;DR: Capitalism is a fuck. Give workers a say in their work 2019. I am a mark. Fuck the Saudi royal family.

👍︎︎ 24 👤︎︎ u/frenchtoastkid 📅︎︎ May 27 2019 🗫︎ replies

at least once a month, i think about Jamal Khashoggi and i feel so sickened, the president of the USA quite literally said the US gets too much money from the monarchy to care.

👍︎︎ 9 👤︎︎ u/TheMoustacheLady 📅︎︎ May 27 2019 🗫︎ replies

It's unsurprising WWE is in this, considering it's literally the capitalist nightmare. It's led by a greedy madman with no regard for other peoples' existence.

👍︎︎ 6 👤︎︎ u/Kairyuka 📅︎︎ May 27 2019 🗫︎ replies
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The United States of America and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia have had a close relationship for the better part of a century. Despite the noticeable differences in government – the US being a secular constitutional republic and Saudi Arabia being a far-right theocratic monarchy -- the two nations bonded over a mutual disdain for socialism and a mutual love of weapons and oil. Saudi Arabia has the oil, and America needs the oil. America has the weapons, and Saudi Arabia needs the weapons. America needs oil for transportation, and Saudi Arabia needs weapons to perform airstrikes in Yemen that kill civilians. In 2017, Saudi Arabia bought $110 billion worth of arms from America with the expectation that they will buy another $350 billion in arms from America over the next ten years. For reasons like this – as well as their ongoing human rights abuses – The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has a terrible reputation the world over. Not its people but its rulers: The Saudi Royal Family. Recently, the royals had an idea. “What if,” they thought “we could improve our international reputation with some superficial, insignificant reforms and publicly ally ourselves with a powerful American company? But what company could we find that has absolutely no shame?” World Wrestling Entertainment is existed in one form or another since 1952. Vince McMahon, seen here with his tongue in the mouth of one of his wrestlers, has been chairman since 1980. He took a family business and made it an international sensation. Through a series of broken promises and steroid scandals, McMahon amassed an empire that is now the leading brand in professional wrestling across the world. Although publicly traded, WWE remains a “family business” in key way: members of his family, including his children and son-in-law, help run WWE to this day. The House of Saud is the ruling family in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. More commonly called the Saudi Royal Family, the head of the House of Saud is King of Saudi Arabia. The King serves both head of state and monarch of the Kingdom. The King holds almost absolute political power, but the King sometimes appoints someone else to be the public face of the kingdom or to do the legwork because I guess being a king with no real accountability gets hard sometimes. Right now, that man is Crown Prince Muhammad bin Salman. Human rights under the Saudi Royal Family are considered among the worst in the world by almost any metric. Saudi Arabia performs public executions by beheading and can be performed for any number of offenses, many of which would not be considered capital crimes in most of the world. A Saudi citizen can be publicly executed for repeated drug use, heresy or apostasy, adultery, witchcraft and more. I guess they got a real witch problem over there. Earlier this year, Saudi Arabia carried out a mass execution of thirty-seven prisoners, mostly due to confessions that were made under torture. Women are given status similar to that of children in Saudi Arabia and comprise only 5% of the workforce, the smallest in the world. The public practice of any religion besides Islam is strictly prohibited. The press is actively censored by the Saudi government. Peaceful protest can get you locked up for 15 years. Homosexuality is illegal and punishable by either imprisonment or even execution. Doctors are banned from giving hormone replacement to transgender people and honestly, the list just goes on and on. Bear in mind that none of this is a condemnation of the Saudi people. They're the victims, not the oppressors, and a lot of them are trying to fight back. The problem is the government. Not the people. The deal between WWE and the Saudi Royal Family is for WWE to do huge shows in Saudi Arabia and help them with propaganda for the family while they're there. Unlike the vast majority of WWE shows, their events in Saudi Arabia are funded by the government, controlled by the Saudi Royal Family. Normally when WWE wants to tour somewhere, they pay some fees, do some paperwork, make a deal with the arena about profits and who gets what, and then all of the sudden, Monday Night Raw is live from Tampa, Florida or London, England or wherever WWE wants to hock its merchandise. In this case, Saudi Arabia handles everything. WWE just needs to show up and rassle. Now you might be thinking “So what about Saudi Arabia? Why is it strange that WWE is doing shows in Saudi Arabia? They do shows in other countries with less than stellar reputations all the time, and America is an imperialist nightmare.” And all that's true. In fact, this isn't even the first time WWE has toured Saudi Arabia. But WWE's events everywhere else are not paid for exclusively by the government or paid to be propaganda. When WWE tours the UK, their events are not paid for by the Queen, and WWE is under no obligation to endorse the UK government or make a stand on Brexit. They're just there to put on a wrestling show. Frankly, WWE usually has their heels mock the city or country they're in for some cheap heat. The precise terms of the deal are unknown only to those who have signed it and those who have access to it, but since WWE is a publicly traded company, they make quarterly reports on their earnings. Some of the details have been sussed out while other details remain under lock and key. One thing we do know for sure is that WWE's money from Saudi Arabia is stacked higher than that of Wrestlemania. The gate alone for Wrestlemania this year was around $16 million, but that's chump change compared to the Saudi Arabia deal. There have been conflicting reports on just how lucrative this deal is for WWE, but by the most trusted accounts, this will make the company at least $45 million per year on the deal. That may be an estimate because WWE's earnings in Saudi Arabia are listed as “Other” in their financial reports. Let's say this conservative estimate is correct and that WWE stands to make 45 million per year. The deal lasts for ten years. WWE stands to make, at least, $450 million dollars over the course of their deal with the Saudi Royal Family. That's nearly half a billion dollars into the WWE coffers. Maybe with that much cheddar, they can start giving their wrestlers health insurance. (They won't.) This is a ridiculous amount of money for two shows per year, especially considering how little is actually grossed for Saudi Arabia. Media outlets have reported that their first show only made the Saudis $250,000, and the second made a similar amount. The Saudi Royal Family is losing a tremendous amount of money on this contract. There is absolutely no way for them to earn a profit from it. For WWE, it's a sweetheart deal. For the Saudi Royal Family, it seems like a bad investment...except they aren't trying to make money off WWE directly. They have other plans in mind. When WWE tours in Chicago, their presence helps the city's economy, and of course WWE makes a tidy sum from the tickets and any merch they sell. That's the arrangement. They aren't summoned there on the behest of the Mayor of Chicago and paid $45 million just to show up. There would be no return on that investment. So, why is this happening in Saudi Arabia? What do the Saudi Royals want from their association with WWE? Saudi Arabia practically gave their tickets away. They had no intention of making money from this. Their objective was not to make money from their alliance with WWE. The deal to have WWE put on shows for them and their people is part of a “charm offensive” to the west. To understand this, you gotta understand the Saudi Royal Family. In April of 2016, Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman unveiled his plan for the future: Vision 2030. While the plan was lauded as a modern solution to the monarchy’s heavy reliance on oil, it simply does not involve significant social reform. Instead, it has provided the Saudi Royal Family with a strategic way to distract international attention away from massive human rights abuses that the country commits to this day. It's almost entirely a financial plan. Not a social progress plan. Among his goals are “reforms” for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, such as allowing women to drive. Saudi Arabia was the last nation on Earth that criminalized women driving. When they decriminalized it, the international media ate it up. What a reformer! Women drivers! How progressive. What's next? Freedom of religion? No, literally no chance of that. Well, maybe decriminalizing homosexuality. No, that's still on the books as punishable by prison or execution. But still. Women can now put their hands on a steering wheel without going to prison. Much progress. So equality. But that didn't matter to the media. The Crown Prince got what he wanted: positive press for his country and the Saudi Royal Family. Reputation means a lot. PR means a lot. For example, when the Saudi royals recently had a journalist murdered, it caused an international stir resulting in several nations in the European Union to suspend their weapon sales to the kingdom. The Saudi Royal Family wants the Kingdom to have more influence in world politics, and you can either earn a better reputation or you can buy one. The closest thing to a real reform is the Crown Prince saying he will stamp out corruption in the government, but guess what, buttercup? You're the government! And you and your family do ALL the crimes! What the Saudi Royal Family means when they say they will end corruption is that they will end corruption outside their family. They want all the corruption for themselves. This parallels Donald Trump's claim of “draining the swamp” and then presiding over an administration that itself is corrupt. How many scandals have their been? Are they daily now? The Crown Prince gives up nothing, gains everything and everyone calls him a selfless and earnest reformer because it makes for an appealing narrative in mass media. The reforms are not “bad” – women being able to drive is good – but the reforms won't go much further than that. Saudi Arabia is an ultraconservative theocracy, and that won't change outside of a revolution. Bottom of the barrel reforms are not indicative of significant reforms any time soon, if ever, and so far, that has been confirmed. Executions have gone up since the Crown Prince's Vision 2030 plan. The interventionist war in Yemen has intensified under the Crown Prince. The war in Yemen is so bloody and such a disaster that even longtime ally the United States tried to pull support for it in Congress until the bill in was vetoed by the President. Donald Trump loves the Saudi Royal Family. They are peas in a pod. Saudi Arabia has become more dangerous to its people and to its neighbors. The “reforms” related to entertainment are superficial. It's a veneer, a thin veil and nothing more. So, where does WWE come in? World Wrestling Entertainment is the Saudi Royal Family's proof to the world that they are a “modern” kingdom. In addition to this alliance looking good for the Saudis, WWE is paid to perform propaganda for the Saudi Royal Family during their WWE Network specials in Saudi Arabia. That's what the Saudi Royal Family paid for. They didn't pay for wrestling. They paid for propaganda. WWE understands reclaiming your legacy after a history of misdeeds and scandal. In recent years, WWE has had their own charm offensive: charity work. That hasn't changed the fact that they mistreat their wrestlers, don't provide healthcare, prop up murderous regimes and support a President who literally puts children in cages, but hey. You know what? Shut up. Ignore all that, and Be a Star. Be a Star, everyone. WWE has an anti-bullying campaign in spite of the fact that it infamously has created an atmosphere of bullying among its talent. Chief Brand Officer Stephanie McMahon, seen here falling into a pool of mud, has admitted publicly that WWE's charities are there for show, to help the image of the company, and because it's just good business. Frankly, the McMahons and the Saudi Royal Family are a match made in Heaven. When it is said that WWE performs propaganda for the Saudi Royal Family, this does not mean that WWE simply has wrestling shows in Saudi Arabia. When detractors of this deal say it's propaganda, they mean it's propaganda. During the first show under this deal called Greatest Royal Rumble, announcers, commentators and wrestlers touted Saudi Arabia as a “progressive” country thanks to the Crown Prince. Corey Graves talked up the Prince's Vision 2030 plan and said that Saudi Arabia is committed to “diversity.” That is...a lie? Yeah, it's a lie. It is literally illegal to be anything but a Muslim in Saudi Arabia. It is literally illegal to anything but a heterosexual in Saudi Arabia. Multiple times during the show, Michael Cole, the voice of WWE, gave shout-outs to the Saudi Royal Family in attendance. You know, the group that signs off on all the executions and extrajudicial killings? The Saudi Royal Family can be seen in almost every shot because they occupy the entire front rows. They seem barely interested in the show and mostly talk amongst themselves and walk around, obstructing the view of the people behind. Just milling around, being dicks. Just being...mean, salty dicks? There was also an entire section of the show dedicated to WWE Hall of Famers like Jerry “The King” Lawler and Booker T thanking the Saudi Royal Family and completely ignoring everything they stand for. In addition, there was a video package touting Vision 2030 and the amazing reform of women not being imprisoned anymore for driving a car. Quite literally the last country on planet Earth that permitted women to drive cars, and they want a cookie for it. Right before the Rumble portion of the evening, Michael Cole reiterated that Jeddha, the city where the event took place, is so “progressive.” [sighs] Listen, I'm not applying the word “progressive” under American standards because America is complicit in a lot of this. I'm not applying European standards or “western” standards, especially since that term has some racist implications. I'm not applying the word “progressive” here in any way except to say that the Saudi Royal Family has made Saudi Arabia one of the most ultraconservative nations on Earth by anything resembling an objective criteria and calling it “progressive” in any way, shape or form is fully enriched, weapons grade bullshit. It is conservative not only by world standards but also by regional standards. Women are required by law to limit their interaction with men unless they are family. There are separate entrances for women and men in buildings, offices, banks and universities. Unlawful “mixing” leads to criminal charges for men and women but women will always have to face the harsher punishment. Women can't go anywhere without their male guardian's permission or conduct business without a man present. Speaking out about this or about anything else that the Saudi Royal Family does is also illegal and punishable by death. As I am writing this, Saudi Arabia has just sentenced three moderate scholars to be executed for the crime of campaigning for a better country. There is no “progressive” city in Saudi Arabia while the Royal Family is in power, and claiming that there is because the Saudi Royal Family paid you to say it participating in propaganda. During the Greatest Royal Rumble, there were no matches for women. This is prohibited in the country. Even though WWE has made strides in their women's division over the past several years, they were barred from the event. Women fans of WWE were permitted to attend the show but only with man as a chaperone. Sami Zayn, who is of Syrian descent, was also barred from attending the show. The Saudi Royal Family doesn't like Syria, and even though Zayn is actually Canadian and just has Syrian roots, that's still too Syrian for the Royal Family. During the show, WWE played an advertisement featuring some of their women wrestlers, and the Saudi Royal Family was furious. According to those who were there, the audience – the citizens – were apparently fine with this, but again, the government is not the citizenry. The Saudi Arabia General Sports Authority made a statement later on apologizing for showing “indecent” women in their wrestling gear and basically threw WWE under the bus. And what did WWE do after being mistreated like that? They said “Thank you, sir. May I have another?!” Jamal Khashoggi, a journalist and critic of Saudi Arabia, entered the Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul to obtain documents related to his marriage. He never walked out. Over time, it was revealed that Khashoggi had been assassinated, almost certainly under orders by the Saudi government. Saudi Arabia kept changing its story. First they denied he had been killed, then he had been killed in a fist fight, then by accident during interrogation, until finally the Saudi Arabian attorney general said it was a premeditated murder but absolved the Royal Family of any guilt. Of course. Shortly thereafter, a CIA investigation concluded that Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman ordered the assassination. AUDIO 9 This put WWE in a public relations nightmare. Should they go ahead with Crown Jewel, their next show in Saudi Arabia? Should they cancel and deal with the fallout of their contract? WWE claimed it would “investigate” the issue, but that's corporate speak for “we're not going to do anything.” It's the same thing they said when one of their doctors recently admitted, under oath, that he had a sexual relationship with one of the wrestlers under his care. It's the same thing they said when reports of Randy Orton's sexual misconduct surfaced. They didn't investigate but two things: jack and shit, because if they did investigate and came up with something, they wouldn't have plausible deniability anymore. They didn't want to find anything because it would be easier and better for them not to. Generally speaking, WWE fans were not happy with the wrestling company's foray into Saudi Arabia and their blatant propaganda for the regime, but once word about the murder of the journalist began to spread, fans at live events began to audibly boo every reference to Crown Jewel. Even the Undertaker – a fan favorite for decades – was on the receiving end of this reaction when he promoted his match in Saudi Arabia. American politicians, both Democrats and Republicans, condemned Saudi Arabia and some were even concerned about WWE doing the show. Some speculated that the State Department might put pressure on WWE not to go. But with Trump in the Oval Office, it never seemed likely that WWE would be asked to stay home. WWE and Trump go back a long time. Trump hosted two Wrestlemania events in Trump Plaza. Trump is in the WWE Hall of Fame, the WWE did fundraising for the Trump 2016 campaign. Even Linda McMahon, seen here next to Karate Eric Bischoff, was head of the Trump administration's Small Business Bureau for about two years. There is no way Trump's State Department [photo] would tell the McMahon family not to make their blood money. In the end, WWE decided not only to do the show but to continue to do their twice yearly shows for the Saudi Royal Family. Nobody has a copy of the contract between WWE and Saudi Arabia except for WWE and Saudi Arabia. That means we don't know for sure what the penalty for backing out of a show or a deal will cost WWE. But probably a lot. They may even have to go to court over it or settle out of court for a lot of money. Nobody knows exactly how it would shake out. But here's the thing. I don't...care? According to Forbes, Vince McMahon is worth three billion dollars. If he lost two thirds of his worth overnight, he would still be a billionaire. I don't have any sympathy for a billionaire who might lose millions of dollars on a deal or go to court and lose millions more. Vince McMahon will never be broke. He's seventy three years old, set for the rest of his life and he's probably happy with all of his success. There is no other explanation for why he walks that way. UFC, following the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, severed its ties with the Saudi Arabia. Endeavor, the parent company of UFC, returned a $400 million investment to the Saudis. They gave it up. All of it. I also don't have any sympathy for Vince McMahon here because he may not have known that the Saudi Royal Family was going to dismember and murder someone and have it be international news, but he definitely knew who they were before he signed the deal. He knew what they were about, and he signed on anyway. The killing of Jamal Khashoggi is nowhere near the first death at the hands of the Saudi Royals. It's just among the most high profile in recent years. Numerous American businesses expressed concern or made a show of outrage over the Saudi Royal Family's involvement in the murder of Khashoggi, but nearly all of them are still doing business with the Saudi government, including WWE. Only two men refused to work the Crown Jewel show: John Cena and Daniel Bryan because they are very good boys, and we're all better off for having them in our lives. It's understandable why others were afraid of requesting the night off, though. WWE is infamously vindictive and most wrestlers would probably end up losing their spot for staging a protest. Cena and Bryan are basically untouchable at this point and so well-respected that punishing them would cause more problems than solve. Chief Operations Officer Paul “Triple H” Levesque, seen here having sex with a dead body, followed WWE's talking points precisely. He said that the company's presence will make Saudi Arabia a better country, but he is too smart to really believe that. AUDIO 11 The Saudi Royal Family is using WWE to increase their influence on the world stage. WWE is not using the Saudis to change Saudi Arabia. They just want their blood money, and it's extremely naive to think otherwise. WWE can't make Saudi Arabia a progressive or even moderate country because Saudi Arabia is a hundred times more powerful than WWE. Also, WWE is not financially incentivized to do this either because if the Saudi Royal Family gives up its power, it won't be able to make all the decisions like giving an American wrestling company untold millions to put on glorified house shows. Speaking of which, Crown Jewel happened. They brought back Hulk Hogan. Look at him. All racist and made of leather. They had a World Cup that only featured wrestlers from America, so whatever. Shane McMahon, seen here getting his penis electrocuted by a monster, was given the World Cup and declared the Best Wrestler in the World. Their next Saudi Arabia show, Super Showdown, is being billed as a show that “will be as good or exceed Wrestlemania.” That's definitely something the Saudis insisted WWE say. WWE has never before thrown Wrestlemania under the bus or treated Wrestlemania as anything but the biggest show of the year. The Saudi Royal Family has so much power over WWE right now. It's embarrassing. WWE wants to keep the cash rolling, and they will do and say whatever it takes to make that happen. This is a ten year deal between WWE and the Saudi Royal Family. We're only about a year in. We have a long way to go before it's over.
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Published: Sun May 26 2019
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