World's Largest Batteries - (Pumped Storage)

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The interesting thing is he uploaded this yesterday, took it down, then reuploaded without the nordvpn ad read

👍︎︎ 37 👤︎︎ u/IAmA_TheOneWhoKnocks 📅︎︎ Oct 31 2019 đź—«︎ replies

There's so many mechanical ways to store energy, it would be interesting to see videos on others like compressed air or rotating disks.

👍︎︎ 14 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ Oct 31 2019 đź—«︎ replies

The cheap turbines used to produce small amounts of current are more for measuring flow than actually generating electricity. If we were to utilize close tolerance turbines we could lower our loses with smaller systems but then we would have to increase our investments. I love this idea as a partial solution to our global energy needs. Combined with solar, wind, pump storage where available and just not using electricity we can solve our energy needs. We need more engineers working on these issues and not so many working on weapons. I have to ask why is Germany so far ahead of US engineers on civil projects and then the US puts our brightest engineering minds on destructive engineering projects. I don’t understand? Money? Why are we so afraid all the time?

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Electricity faces a fundamental problem that comes with pretty much any product that’s provided on-demand: our ability to generate large amounts of it doesn’t match up that closely with when we need it. Wind and solar power are becoming more cost effective, but they’ll always be unreliable and intermittent sources of energy. Retailers use warehouses to store goods between manufacturer and sale. Water utilities use tanks and reservoirs. But the storage of electricity for later use, especially on a large scale, is quite a bit more challenging. That’s why power grids are mostly real time systems with generation ramped up or down to meet fluctuating demands instantaneously. That’s not to say that we don’t store energy at grid scale though, and there’s one type of storage that makes up the vast majority of our current capacity. Hey I’m Grady and this is Practical Engineering. On today’s episode, we’re talking about pumped hydroelectric storage. Although it’s a very convenient form of energy to produce, transmit, and use, electricity has some disadvantages. We’ve talked a little bit about variability in demand and generation capacity in previous videos of this series, but I’ll summarize again here. The fundamental problem is that we use electricity like this, with peaks in the morning and evening. But, we generate electricity differently. Fossil fuel and nuclear plants generally have a single capacity at which they run most efficiently with occasional need to go offline for maintenance. Solar, of course, follows the amount of sunlight with some variability due to clouds. And wind follows weather patterns with potential for lots of variability. You may have heard of the duck curve, which is the name given to our electricity demand minus the contribution from solar. You end up with this funky curve representing the need for other sources of electricity. This creates a challenge because not only does solar power start to die away right when we need it most during peak demands in the evening, it also creates a much steeper demand curve, requiring grid operators to spin up other types of generation more quickly. So, solar power is meeting some of our electricity needs, but it’s not necessarily eliminating the need for other sources of electricity. And in some cases, it may actually be making the grid less efficient by contributing to instability and requiring the use of peaking plants that are generally heavier polluters. In fact, peaking plants are the go-to solution for load following on the grid. These are smaller, more expensive sources of electricity that only run for a few hours per day to make up the difference between the base power load and the evening peaks. Another interesting solution to this problem is called demand management, which is influencing the demand for electricity to reduce or shift peaks and match generation capacity better. This can be as simple as marketing campaigns encouraging you to set your thermostat a few degrees higher to sophisticated systems that can tell your electric car when to start charging. But, the holy grail in grid-scale power delivery is simply to let the demand and generation curves be what they’ll be, storing energy when generation exceeds demand and using that stored energy during demand peaks. There are a wide variety of fascinating ideas for storing large amounts of energy, from molten salt to pressurizing the air in old mines, but most of the current grid-scale storage relies on gravitational potential. That is: use excess energy to lift something up, then use that thing to generate electricity as it falls back down, essentially treating earth’s gravity as a spring. And the vast majority of current grid-scale storage does this using water, in a scheme called pumped storage hydroelectricity. And I’ve built a little mini-scale version of this as a demonstration. In most cases, the way this works is to have two reservoirs nearby but separated by a large difference in elevation, in this case two buckets separated by a ladder. At night, when electricity prices are low, you use that cheap power and pumps to fill the upper reservoir. During the day, when energy prices are high, you use the water in the upper reservoir to spin turbines and generate hydropower. It’s essentially a giant water battery, and storing energy in this way has a lot of benefits, besides just shaving off the peaks of the demand curve. Hydropower is one of the most responsive ways to generate electricity, so pumped storage allows grid operators to handle fluctuation in demands quickly. Pumped storage is also valuable in an emergency, providing quick access to power when other sources may be out of commission. Finally, these systems can provide a lot of benefit on small, insular power grids (like on islands) where you don’t have as much diversification in the generation portfolio. But, pumped storage has several major challenges as well, and I’ll use this demo to illustrate the big ones. First is energy density, which is the term to describe how much energy can fit into a unit volume. And this is not a pumped storage facility’s finest feature. Just for some reference here is the energy density of gasoline, a lithium ion battery, and the water in a typical pumped storage reservoir. I say typical because but the total energy storage is both a function of height and volume. The greater the head above the turbines, the more the generating capacity for a given volume of water. I’m using a little aquarium pump to fill up my upper reservoir on top of this ladder. It’s pretty easy to see the difference in energy density between a battery and the stored water. The water in this bucket has about the same gravitational potential energy as the battery in your car’s key fob. In fact, to reach the same density as a typical lithium-ion battery, you’d have to have the water stored at a height of approximately outside earth’s atmosphere, which wouldn’t be very convenient for an electric vehicle. In fact, this is one of the main disadvantages of pumped storage facilities is that they require a very specific type of site where you can locate two pools near each other while also separating them by as much vertical distance as possible. And even then, because of the low energy density, these are often massive reservoirs that are major civil engineering projects as compared to something like a battery that can be manufactured in a factory. The other major challenge of pumped storage is getting the energy back out once you’ve stored it. Efficiency is the ratio of how much energy you put in versus how much of it you can get out. You never get it all. That’s the second law of thermodynamics. But you hope to get most of it, otherwise you’ve built a very big and very expensive battery that doesn’t work. As I mentioned, my model reservoir is holding about a tenth of a watt-hour, but that’s not how much energy it took to get it there. I kept an eye on the power supply while the bucket filled, and it took about 0.7 watt-hours of electricity. That means my pump’s efficiency was about 15%. So, the most energy I can even hope to recover is a lot less than I’ve put in. Some pumped storage facilities can use reversible pumps that act as turbines, but in my case I’m using a dedicated unit. I’ve got a power resistor as dummy loads, and I’m measuring the voltage and current produced by the turbine to estimate the total recovery of energy. And… the numbers don’t look good. In fact, with the small amount of pressure, my little mini hydro turbine could barely even spin at all. My best estimate is that I was able to generate 2 milliwatt-hours from the full bucket. That’s a whopping 0.3% efficiency and this is the other reason we’re not hooking up tanks of water to our portable electronic devices. At a small scale, this just isn’t a feasible way to store power. Little pumps and turbines just aren’t very efficient. But things look a little better on a larger scale. Even considering all the potential losses of energy from evaporation or leakage of water to friction and turbulence within the machinery, many pumped storage facilities achieve efficiencies of 70 percent and higher. Of course that means they are net energy consumers, since (as we mentioned) you can’t recover all the power used to pump the water to the top, but if the cost of the energy consumed is lower than the price they can get out of that energy (minus inefficiencies) during peak demand, they can still turn a profit. In fact, you might be surprised how many pumped storage facilities already exist. In the U.S. the Energy Information Administration has a nice online map where you can look around and see if there’s one near that you can go visit. Of course, I’ve only had time to go into the basics of pumped storage, and there are a lot of interesting advancements on the horizon, like using abundantly available seawater instead of sometimes limited sources of freshwater. Like demand management, storage is just one part of improving the efficiency and stability of the power grid as we work to implement more renewable and sustainable sources of electricity.
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Channel: Practical Engineering
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Keywords: generate power, generate electricity, wind energy, solar energy, fossil fuels, power grid, electricity, electrical infrastructure, power, electrical grid, grid, global warming, power plant, thermal energy, turbine, hydroelectricity, pumped storage, practical engineering, grady, engineer, engineering
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Length: 9min 13sec (553 seconds)
Published: Thu Oct 31 2019
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