Why Starbucks Is Struggling In South Africa

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in Cape Town CBD where I live

*there are 3 seatlle coffees, one directly outside, one opposite the road, and one 10 minutes walk away

*besides seattle, there are two other coffee shops directly outside where I live

*there are plenty of other coffee shops in the area, Truth, Deluxe, Bean There, Clarkes, etc etc etc- theres a lot of coffee shops in other words

so yeah, when I read the news of starbucks opening in SA a few years back, I did make a similar comment on a different forum, they simply have way too much competition here

also dunkin doughnuts were never going to survive selling doughnuts at R14 a pop

👍︎︎ 7 👤︎︎ u/The_Angry_Economist 📅︎︎ Oct 25 2019 🗫︎ replies

I don't think they made it in Australia either, maybe it's partly climate related. Nice sunny weather = less coffee consumption

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/StepheninVancouver 📅︎︎ Oct 25 2019 🗫︎ replies

If the video is accurate about the expansion plan, interesting. Good to see brands still looking at the market as viable.

But I think they’re wildly underestimating Vida and Seattle and how easy it will be to take market share. I also think they may be overestimating the local desire for take away coffee a bit - particularly a premium take away coffee.

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/KojimaMiharu 📅︎︎ Oct 25 2019 🗫︎ replies

Plus it’s just a terrible tasting coffee. The macdonalds of coffees

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ Nov 02 2019 🗫︎ replies

I've been curious about this topic for a while, this video explained it well.

Part of me finds it kind of sad that a foreign company brand wants to open 200-300 new stores. On the other hand it will obviously be beneficial getting FDI and job creation. Also that despite how negative many South Africans (including myself) can be about our economy, multinationals seem to be optimistic about making money here, this is not the only company doubling down on South African investments I've seen recently.

It also makes me wonder how our local chains are reacting to this competition.

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/thatnotirishkid 📅︎︎ Oct 24 2019 🗫︎ replies
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Starbucks and Domino's. What do those brands have in common in the U.S.? Not much. But in South Africa, they're run by the same parent company. Taste Holdings. And that company is struggling after opening 12 Starbucks in South Africa, Taste announced in November 2014 that it would stop the rollout of new stores. The company said Starbucks just wasn't making enough money to continue opening new locations. Taste also stopped opening new Domino's, which it said was the biggest underperformer. Even though tastes began opening Starbucks stores again in August 2019. Its footprint is still far less than what the company expected when it first entered the market. In 2015, Taste that it's all the potential to open as many as 200 stores there by 2020. Instead as of 2019, Taste now has just 13 Starbucks locations in South Africa. Taste hasn't had to close any stores yet. But with its high operating costs and a big price tag most South Africans can't afford,can Starbucks survive in South Africa? Starbucks opened its first location in Seattle in 1971. It quickly became a global brand with 30000 stores around the world. But Africa is one continent where you won't find many Starbucks. The brand is currently in just three African countries Morocco, Egypt and South Africa. South Africa is the continent's second largest economy and is now considered a point of entry to the African market for many global brands. When apartheid ended in the 90s, foreign companies returned to the country. South African consumers, who'd long been limited to local players, were curious about these new international brands. Starbucks expands to a new country in one of two ways through Starbucks owned and operated stores, or by partnering with a local company to license stores. In South Africa, Starbucks partnered with Taste Holdings in 2015, giving the company an exclusive 25 year license to open Starbucks stores. When Taste opened its first location in Johannesburg in April 2016, it was the first ever Starbucks in sub-Saharan Africa. Lines of people eager to try its coffee snaked around the block when it first opened in Rosebank, a shopping suburb of Johannesburg. Local media reported that some people even waited overnight for their Frappuccino fix. But soon customer interest dropped as the novelty of Starbucks wore off to slow the rate at which it opened new stores. The company reported overall operating losses in the first half of fiscal year 2018. At Tastes Food Division, net losses mounted, widening 51 percent from fiscal year 2017 to 2018. Starbucks revenue in South Africa grew. But in August 2018, he said it wasn't producing the required return on investments to keep opening new stores. Operating costs were also high for Starbucks in the first six months of 2013 due to the addition of eight new stores. In fiscal year 2019, thanks in part to sales from two new stores, Starbucks South Africa revenue increased 46 percent from the year prior to 108 million rand, or about $7 million. But for the nine stores that have been open for at least a year, same store sales declined by 19 percent. Taste Holdings said the double digit drop in same store sales showed that the honeymoon period for Starbucks in South Africa was over, despite the fact that Starbucks products tend to be more expensive than its rivals in South Africa. It's still ranked number four in the specialty coffee market, which is valued at 77.6 dollars in South Africa. Local coffee companies open in South Africa. Long before Starbucks did, and analysts say some chains had already nailed Starbucks casual European style. You know, there was a or there is an established coffee culture and it's not so easy just to come in and say, hey, you know, you know, we're the new kids on the block and with better value proposition, I think, of a Starbucks coming to South Africa. You know, 20 years ago would have been very different. But I think, you know, now a Starbucks coming to South Africa is definitely a little bit of a sowhat factor. Other international coffee jeans have tried and failed to expand in South Africa. Northeast favorite Dunkin Brands open stores there in 2016. But in February 2019, it's licensors said it would close all Dunkin Donuts and Baskin Robbins there due to poor performance. Krispy Kreme opened stores in 2015 with a much more modest golden Starbucks to open 31 restaurants by 2020. McDonald's expanded to South Africa in 1995. It has two hundred and eighty five restaurants in South Africa, compared to 13 Starbucks. In 2018 McDonald's said it would invest one hundred and five million dollars in South Africa over the next five years. Starbucks biggest problem in South Africa is how expensive its products are. Starbucks in general and this is probably where the problem lies. They are a bit more expensive than all other competition. So, you know, upfront 15 to 25 percent more expensive than other chains. So all just good coffee. And that's the problem. You know, you come with a premium and that's what people are attracted to. That scene is your pricing is expensive. You saw customers actually afford it. Starbucks is aimed at middle and upper class consumers, a segment which is small in South Africa. The World Bank says South Africa has one of the highest inequality rates in the world. From 2008 to 2015, a bout 20 percent of the population was considered middle class, which is considerably smaller than in other countries. The average salary in South Africa is about 1400 dollars a month or about 17,000 dollars a year. You know, I'd say probably a price bracket is between like 22 to 35 rand. And that would be like a safe zone that can kind of say that's what most people pay for a coffee or something. Starbucks is well above that. And so I think that for for the majority of people, that's like a great once every now and then. But it's not something they're going to purchase every day. A small latte at Starbucks costs about 60 percent, more than the same item at McDonald's. South African consumers were also strapped for cash when Starbucks started expanding into the country. South Africa entered a recession for the first time since 2009, and the recession didn't just hit consumers. The costs of doing business also went up. Unfavorable exchange rates meant it was more expensive to buy the equipment and supplies needed to run a Starbucks. Taste also blamed higher fuel prices and increased taxes for its poor financial results in the first half 2018. That meant customers in South Africa weren't spending as much on non-essentials like upscale coffee. And remember, Domino's and Starbucks, South Africa Connection Taste Holdings by Angelos were a huge problem for Starbucks. The company has seen big losses and carried high debt, which became clear when shares took a nosedive in 2017. Taste chairman called 2018 one of the most trying and disappointing years in tastes history. While Starbucks stores are profitable, Taste just couldn't justify the expense of opening any new ones. Taste spent 10 million rand or just over 650 thousand dollars to open its flagship store in Johannesburg. Analysts say local competitors typically open stores for much less or just about 100 thousand dollars per store. Starbucks has the reputation of being a luxury brand, so customers expected a lot. The cost of perks like free Wi-Fi, lots of beverage options and large clean spaces with room to hang out added up. Plenty of coffee chains in South Africa offer similar amenities. But analysts say opening such expensive stores in a short time period puts too big of a financial strain on taste. If another more stable company had allowed Starbucks expansion in South Africa, it may have gone differently. If Starbucks was part of a bigger group, I don't think we would be having this conversation. The local stores have opened already and the finance issues will be easier to growing the brand. Taste holdings refused requests for an interview for this story. Starbucks spokesperson Reggie Borges has said in a statement that Starbucks and Taste are optimistic about the brand's opportunity in South Africa. Borges noted that taste opened its 13th Starbucks in 2019. But that's still a ways off from its full market opportunity of up to 200 stores. There are a lot of forces where he and Starbucks in South Africa, but taste seems confident it can succeed there. Remember those lines around the block When Starbucks first opened? Taste, it recognized Starbucks was in a honeymoon period. Once stores have been open for a year, Taste got a realistic sense of how much consumers would spend at Starbucks, and the numbers didn't look good. With same store sales dropping 19 percent in fiscal year of 2019. But Taste has a plan to get Starbucks back on track. In 2018, Tastes went through a huge executive restructuring. The company appointed new executives with experience operating global brands in South Africa, including a new CEO and COO. And if anything, the old management team might be being a bit lax on their spending on new stores. So if it cost them between 5 and 8 million rand stores or half a million dollars per store. A lot of money considering its competitors stores for about one and a half million. . The new leadership team has been open with Starbucks about their financial problems in South Africa. Taste has even gotten positive feedback from Starbucks about its new business model. Taste plans to keep building new stores in South Africa in 2020. It says it will. Stores better suited to the local market. That means stores will be smaller and more visible. They'll also be concentrated in four major cities Johannesburg, Pretoria, Durban and Cape Town. And this time around, Taste will consider drive to store formats that cater to the country's huge car culture. Competitors have already capitalize on this trend by selling coffee at gas stations or near office complexes. But many of the Starbucks open now are in malls. I think there's some things like, for example, not being in a mall I think that's a great start. So location is important because at the end of the day, like the South African driving terminal, to get coffee is probably not an hardiness. We drive every we like to walk some way is very like horrid intensifies. Even if it's played by it's still a thing we'll drive up. Taste got a huge cash injection from a multimillion dollar loan in 2018, but the company says it will need more cash than that to keep opening stores. Taste said it will open six new Starbucks in fiscal year 2020 and in the long term, its goals are still high. It wants to build 200 to 300 Starbucks in South Africa in 10 years. Experts say Starbucks needs more revenue and lower operating costs to work in South Africa. Can Starbucks South Africa survive or will it follow Dunkin's path and become another casualty in the international coffee wars?
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Published: Wed Oct 23 2019
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