Why Men In Classical Art All Have Tiny Junk

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Perpetually missing from this whole thing is that a lot of people have tiny penises when they're not hard. It's nothing to be embarrassed about, but everybody seems to REALLY YELL about how small the statue penises are.

I would trade an inch off my penis for a couple inches of height easily, but it looks a lot like a statue penis if I'm just hanging out and walking around the house.

👍︎︎ 170 👤︎︎ u/GrassTacts 📅︎︎ Dec 15 2021 🗫︎ replies

Yeah, unfortunately I don’t think this bit of trivia will do anything to stem the body shaming of guys with smaller packages. It’s fun but not effective. Most people lack empathy for that particular physical attribute.

👍︎︎ 169 👤︎︎ u/DarkSp3ctre 📅︎︎ Dec 15 2021 🗫︎ replies

I think this is nice but not really helpful to men who are insecure. I wish the discussion around sexual compatibility wasn't so focused on genital sizes but I also wish we would stop trying to lie and say it doesn't matter at all.

There's a lot of nuance to the discussion but I feel like it always devolves into "big penises are awful and painful" or "genital size doesn't matter at all and all genitals fit together perfectly". I don't think either of those statements are true. I don't think those sayings actually help struggling men. And then there's always the classic, "women don't even like penetrative sex so as long as you're good with your mouth your penis is irrelevant". That might be true for some women but a lot of women enjoy PIV.

I don't know, I'm somewhat off topic but every penis size thread on Reddit devolves into people making broad generalizations. Men who share they've experienced rejection because some women do in fact care about size are told they're just not good at sex.

I wish we just said your size might be too big or too small for some women/men and thats okay. It says nothing about your value as a person or partner. It just means you're not sexually compatible.

👍︎︎ 64 👤︎︎ u/Valuable-Dog-6794 📅︎︎ Dec 15 2021 🗫︎ replies

I don’t think men should have to feel bad or insecure about anything they were born with and have no recourse for enhancing. The blatantly sexist view that there is an acceptable penis size that men should have is repulsive. That’s like stating loose gaping vaginas aren’t acceptable and how they should only be a certain diameter for men’s pleasure. Men need to stop and women need to stop.

👍︎︎ 55 👤︎︎ u/GDMongorians 📅︎︎ Dec 15 2021 🗫︎ replies

Small penises represented intelligence. Meaning that they weren’t a slave of their sexual desires, thus showing that they were smart, brave and stuff like that.

👍︎︎ 11 👤︎︎ u/_HippoLopo_12 📅︎︎ Dec 16 2021 🗫︎ replies

So it was basically a non verbal way to communicate "this person has better things to do than think about ravishing maidens 24/7"

but wait?. all the gods did that didn't they? 🧐

👍︎︎ 33 👤︎︎ u/marysalad 📅︎︎ Dec 15 2021 🗫︎ replies

It was art not porn. They didnt fluff to impress?

👍︎︎ 6 👤︎︎ u/Robotro17 📅︎︎ Dec 15 2021 🗫︎ replies

What baseline measurement are you using to determine that the penises in these statues are unusually small? This is a bit of a weird topic for this sub where I think we typically try to dispell these notions of normalcy.

👍︎︎ 7 👤︎︎ u/brand1996 📅︎︎ Dec 19 2021 🗫︎ replies

The video above dives into the history behind Greek statues of Gods and heroes and why so many of them feature small penises. It turns out that for Ancient Greek society, having a larger penis was looked down upon as it was an indication that you were a barbarian and less rational as a result. Often times when men with smaller than average penises talk about their situation they’re met with platitudes and reassurances about the variety of women’s taste, much the same way a women who doesn’t fall into common beauty standards is reassured about the variety of men’s standards. I like the video above in particular as it demonstrates how modern attitudes about men’s sexuality that are taken for granted are not universal nor were they should we look at history. I like to imagine that since the video above is really popular, it may help to bring a new cultural trend where men with smaller than average size penises can show off what they have and say “I AM BUILT LIKE A GREEK GOD” knowing that the historical facts are backing them up.

👍︎︎ 78 👤︎︎ u/PenguinWithaMustache 📅︎︎ Dec 15 2021 🗫︎ replies
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When Michelangelo Buonarroti unveiled his masterpiece in 1504, audiences were astonished by the artist's work. David loomed large in stature, bravery, and confidence. But why did the sculptor choose to depict him as small in, well, everything else? And it wasn't just Michelangelo giving his male subjects the short end of the stick. Today, we'll be diving into the weird history of why men in classical art have tiny junk. But before we get started, be sure to subscribe to the Weird History channel. Oh, and also leave us a comment so you can let us know what other big stories in small packages you'd like to hear about. Now grab a magnifying glass and attempt to uncover this small mystery. [MUSIC PLAYING] Today's Western world lives by the motto, go big or go home. Why buy a 60 inch TV when you can get a 90 inch for just a few more? Why get an 8 ounce steak when, if you eat a 72, ounce you get it for free? Bon appetit. In Western society, bigger is better, and that goes double when it comes to the male anatomy. In fact, there's a billion a year industry that preys upon a man's fear about not being adequate enough. These hucksters, charlatans, and flim flam men promised to increase the size through rubs, creams, pills, or pumps. But it wasn't always like this. The ancient Greeks believed that there were no small parts, only small actors. In fact, the playwright, Aristophanes, once had one of his characters proclaim that the perfect man has a gleaming chest, bright skin, broad shoulders, tiny tongue, strong buttocks, and a little prick. Sounds like a Hollywood casting agent. Sorry, you're too tall. I can be shorter. No, can't use you, too short. Oh, I can be taller. [MUSIC PLAYING] While it all may seem Greek to us, the people of ancient Athens held a small Jimmy Johnson in the highest regard. According to historian, Paul Chrystal, author of In Bed With the Ancient Greeks, sculptors intentionally chiseled a little extra off the top when it came to men's privates. An artistic circumcision, if you will. The small penis was consonant with Greek ideals of male beauty, Chrystal explains. It was a badge of the highest culture and a paragon of civilization. So it's time for the big question. Why? In ancient Greece the ideal man was driven by logic. Lust was thought to be antithetical to logic, and since bigger genitals were believed to give rise to greater feelings of lust, logically, having a smaller hot dog meant less lustfulness and therefore, more logic. Of course, there is no correlation between penis size and lustfulness, just like there's no correlation between foot size and the desire for a sweet sock collection. But that's the theory the ancient Greeks were working with. They sought to praise the virtuous intellectual. Greeks associated small and non-erect penises with moderation, which was one of the key virtues that formed their view of ideal masculinity, explained Andrew Lear, a classics professor who has taught at Harvard, Columbia, and NYU. There's the old joke that God gave man enough blood for his shwants and for his brain, but not enough for them to be used at the same time. The ancient Greeks seemed to have concurred, and, through their art, they made it clear which organ they deemed more important. In ancient Greece, a well-endowed man could not be trusted and would certainly make a terrible leader. Historian, Paul Chrystal notes that the ancient Greeks measured male potency not by endowment, as it was in other cultures, but by the intellect needed to power man's responsibility to father children, prolong the family line, and sustain the city-state. Perhaps it was this disassociation of leadership and tube size that allowed several women to rise up to become powerful leaders. Queen Artemisia I of Caria began her reign in 484 BC, immediately after her husband's death. During the Grecko Persian Wars, queen Artemisia's cunning leadership in the battle against the Athenians led Xerxes himself to exclaim, my men have become women and my women men. Queen Artemisia I ruled for 24 prosperous years, and would be followed about a century later by the equally cunning, Queen Artemisia II. The Rhodians revolted against being led by a woman and sent ships to attack Artemisia II's capital city of Halicarnassus. They were surprised when, instead of being stopped and forced into battle, they were invited to dock at the Harbor and welcomed into the city. The Rhodians did not realize that queen Artemisia had ordered the construction of a second, secret harbor. From there, her soldiers overtook the Rhodesian vessels that had been left behind, slaughtering the remaining crew. While those who were invited into the city were also killed. Artemisia II's soldiers then sailed the and ships back to Rhodesia, where they were welcomed into the Harbor as returning victors. Instead, the queen's soldiers jumped out, slaughtered those who resisted, and recaptured Rhodesia in the Queen's name. Queen Artemisia did all this without having beans or franks, so maybe the ancient Greeks were on to something. Hey, Weird History viewers, we wanted to take a minute to talk about a problem that may concern you, male pattern baldness. Because, hey, who wants to end up like this guy? Scary, right? Did you know that two out of three guys will experience it by the time they're 35? Weird History has partnered with Keeps, because with Keeps, a licensed doctor will review your information online and recommend the right hair loss treatment plan for you. And then your treatment will be shipped directly to your door every three months. Find out why keep says more 5 star ratings than any of its competitors, and why thousands of men trust keeps for their hair loss prevention. If you're ready to take action and prevent hair loss, go to keeps.com/weirdhistory, or click the link in the description to receive 50% off your first order. That's K-E-E-P-S.com/weirdhistory. [MUSIC PLAYING] While Zeus, the King of the Greek gods, was often depicted as having a less than Olympic sized phallus, Priapus, the God of fertility, was shown as having a schlong as long as the Iliad. Priapus was cursed by Hera, the wife of Zeus, to be forever impotent, foul-minded, and ugly. That's an O'Henry story, right there. Priapus was cast out by the other gods and forced to live with the insatiable satyrs. Priapus was thought to be a despicable creature driven by lust, and the exact antithesis of the ideal Greek man. You know how those Viagra ads say call a doctor if your erection lasts for over four hours? Seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. Well that medical condition is known as Priapism, named after Priapus, the well-endowed god, with whom no self-respecting Greek wanted to be associated. The satyrs that Priapus is so closely identified with we're half human, half animal creatures with massive cranks. Greek mythology held up satyrs as examples of creatures driven by their bodies, who lacked restraint. Historian, Paul Chrystal, notes that oversized genitals were vulgar and outside the cultural norm. Something sported by the barbarians of the world, and they were not only associated with a lack of civilization, but with a lack of humanity as well. That explains Ron Jeremy. [MUSIC PLAYING] In the mind of the ancient Greeks, having a large pipe made one stupid, animal-like and barbarous. That's why their favorite and most humiliating insult was to depict their enemies as having giant wankers. Take that, ancient Egyptians. But the ancient Greeks weren't the only ones to demonize others based on a perceived out-sized lustfulness. The idea that Black men had larger baby arms, and therefore, greater sexual appetites, was one of the justifications used for slavery. This fostered fear for the sanctity of women, believing that African men, with enlarged genitals and enlarged sexual urges, would take women if they were not kept locked in chains. Not only is there a zero correlation between little dickie size and lust, but there is also no known correlation between size and skin color. [MUSIC PLAYING] Trigger Warning, we're now going to talk about how classical Greek men are known for cultivating close relationships with younger men, or even boys. This idealization of the teenage boy may have influenced Greek beauty standards. While many Greek statues show the rippling muscles of an adult man, in one area, Greek artists may have prioritized youth. The prepubescent male was considered beautiful, innocent, and full of potential, because he had not yet burst forth. And if prepubescent was considered the epitome of male beauty, it would make sense that a small gherkin, or one that had not yet finished growing, would be the one most coveted. In a study titled, "Penile Representations in Ancient Greek Art", scholars concluded that the Greeks represented character through their endowments. Men associated with fertility or a lack of humanity might sport large cranks. But the Greek gods and mortal men were shown with average or less than average size. Another explanation for the teeny weeny depictions may have something to do with the men's activities. It is noteworthy that many of these images belong to athletes during or immediately after hard exercise. The study notes, when one goes about exercising, the body sends blood to the muscles and joints. It also pulls blood away from the areas that aren't being used for exercise. So part of the reason we see classical art depicting men with small hoses may be that the artists were being anatomically correct by showing their subjects with shrinkage, cue George Costanza. [SCREAMS] Oh my God. I was at the pool! Another possible explanation, is that perhaps our views of what is average are skewed. According to a study of over 15,000 men published in the British Journal of Urology International, the average length of an erect party missile is 5.16 inches. Compare that with the average length of an erect male porn star, which adult film director, Adam Glasser, estimates at about 8 inches. Art historian, Ellen Oredsson, points out an important fact, most men in these artworks are depicted at rest. The same BJUI study found that the average length of a flaccid soldier is only 3.61 inches. If you compare their size to most flaccid males, they are actually not significantly smaller than real life penises tend to be, Oredsson argues. The Romans didn't just copy the Greek gods, they also copied their sculptures. Thus, the Greek preference for small packages carried on for centuries, as Renaissance artists, like Michelangelo, follow the Greek and Roman style of portraying anatomical accuracy while making no embellishments when it came to depicting male genitalia. Whether the reason for depicting small kielbasas was to dissociate from lustfulness, stupidity, and barbarity, to emulate the stature of a prepubescent boy, or just a simple case of shrinkage, classical art will forever be associated with average to sub average ding-alings. So what do you think? Do you like the classical style, or are you a modern art lover? Let us know in the comments below, and while you're at it, check out some of these other videos from our Weird History.
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Keywords: Classical Greek sculpture, Men In Classical Art, Male Figure in Art History, Male Anatomy In Classical art, Renaissance paintings, Weird History, Weird History Art, Classical Greek art, the male nude, Ancient Greece, Italian Art, Greek Statues, Priapus, The renaissance period, Michelangelo Buonorroti, Leonardo da Vinci, The Sistine Chapel, Vitruvian Man, David statue, Classical art, Art History, Painting, realism, figurative paitning, Drunk History, Today I Learned, History
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Length: 11min 11sec (671 seconds)
Published: Fri Oct 29 2021
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