Why Melodyne 5? My Top 5 Reasons

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Hi folks! I've been trying out the new Melodyne 5, not only on vocals, but also guitar. I gotta say, I'm mighty impressed, and I made a video explaining why!

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so melody in five is out and it's amazing why in today's video I'm gonna give you my top five reasons hi folks I'm Mike and I hope you're well now I was definitely one of those people in the past that was anti pitch correction on vocals and I think that's because in the early days of this technology it was given a really bad name with a lot of overuse on some pretty big hits now as I started to use melody line for I really began to appreciate that you could use it to tidy up a vocal performance without sucking the humanity out of the performance at all and I was really interested to see what they would have in store with melody and five so I've been giving you the test run and I have to say I've absolutely been blown away by the improvements they've had some really innovative ideas in this one and I think it's really worth you checking it out so I'm going to be going through my top five reasons why I think it's an awesome upgrade in this video now if this is your first time here and you like this kind of content all that home recording da w's gear reviews plugin reviews that kind of thing then please do subscribe and ring the bell on youtube so that you get notified about my future videos now let's get stuck into Melodyne five five so if you think Melodyne is only about melody and vocals then you're going to be pleasantly surprised by the way it handles chords and instruments so what I have loaded up on the screen here is an electric guitar part which I recorded last night and I've applied Melodyne and you can see right away that it's actually picked out the individual notes in the chords here and if I play it you'll be able to see that in context [Music] now before I go into how I can manipulate that I want to check just romona about how it detects chords now you can see that it's picked up the key here at the C minor key when it's analyzed the guitar but it can also pick out the chords which are being played and that's more than just a labeling feature we're going to make use of those chords a little bit later on but I also want to mention that some da w's do have chord detection have chord tracks and if they meet the right standards the melody n-- can actually make use of those as well so when you use this you may already see some chords appear there but if you don't have a DA W that does that then Melodyne can do it for you so right at the top of the window here we can see an area where the chords are going to be displayed there's nothing there at the moment so I'll right click and I'll click on analyze chords and you can see right away it's picked up some chord names there now I've been using this for about the last week or so and I have to say it does a very very good job a lot of the time it just gets the chords correctly even when they're more complex chords however once in a while it does get it a little wrong and I can see here that it's made a mistake instead of that being a G minor which I know it is there because I sorry G major because I played the guitar part it's picked it up as an e minor now I can manually change that I can just double click on that and change it to a G now those of you who know a little bit about music theory know that there's not big surprise there because G and E minor are very related to each other and it is helpful that I've corrected that because we're going to make use of these chords a little bit later now before we get into that let's look at see how and see how we can manipulate the notes now it was a bit tricky here because when I recorded this guitar part I actually on purpose made one of the strings on the guitar a little bit flat a little bit out of tune just a tiny bit flat and if you have really good hearing then you will be able to hear that let's give you another chance [Music] here mostly in those top notes there well we can really easily fix that just by double-clicking on that note there so I'll just double click on it and you can see it just snaps up a little bit to the center of the note that it's on ok this is a small adjustment but it can make a difference to it there and there and now those notes are in tune in addition to that we could simply select all of the notes there and double click on them and you can see this adjustments made to all of those notes there so all of the strings of the guitar have been put into let's have a listen okay now this is something I'd do with a little bit of caution I wouldn't do it on a whole kind of track normally like that wouldn't be worth it because you do run the risk of getting some artifacts and things but if you just want to do it on individual notes like I did at the beginning I think it's a very cool thing to be able to do when you've realized a week after recording the guitar that one string is slightly out of tune ok so how else can we manipulate these notes well we can change the notes to different pictures of course if we want and there's some snapping available now at the moment you can see that some of the grid here has a white background these represent the notes which are actually in the key the key of C minor however we might want to make sure that we're only using notes which are actually in those chords so we can change our snapping here I'll just open this up I'll change it to chord here and then I'll just double check to make sure that the sorry the actual snapping is on chord snap ok so now what we see is the white backgrounds representing the notes of the chord that's being marked at the top there so now if I drag this note it's just going to snap to one of the notes which is already in the core which is great so let's have a listen to that [Music] and that's cool but I might not always want to do that I may want to do use some notes which are still in tune but not not necessarily in the chord in which case I could change my snapping to chord scale okay so this time we have a sort of notes in the background in white sorry grid squares in the background in white I'm sure there's a better way of saying that anyway and those are the safe spaces within that chord where we can move our notes then they're not in the chord but they're sympathetic to that chord so let's see if we drag this one up here okay let's have a listen okay interesting let's drag these two up here and that one up there and now we've got something really cool going on [Music] probably a little bit over tune that one there we go beautiful so it's really handy we can actually change the composition somewhat after we've even recorded the guitar and we're dealing with chords very cool indeed okay so we detected the chords using the guitar which was already there but what if we had another instrument here which of course I've got prepared and I'll pull it up here and this is an organ now what I've tried to do is replicate a scenario here where you may have got a short sample which you've looped throughout the song in this case this there's this organ which sounds like this you know it's not following the chord progression as we can see if we blend it in with the guitar it doesn't sound too bad [Music] but you know not quite right so what we can do here is make sure that this does actually fit the chord progression so I've selected all the notes there with ctrl a I'm just going to double check that I've got this set up correctly so we're going to change this to chord and then we're going to change it to chord snap okay so I've got everything selected I've got the snapping on for chords and our double click and you can see that lots of the notes have shifted around and what they've done is they've tried to fit in as close as possible to the chords which are denoted at the top here so let's have a listen to the organ by itself [Music] cool that's gonna fit in nicely at the guitar but I can still of course adapt it so I could just change these bass notes down here let's have a listen okay let's put it in with the guitar so it's conceivable that if you've got a loop or a sample and you've got it from somewhere and it's not even playing the correct notes or the correct chords you can still go ahead and adapt it very powerful indeed let's just have a quick last listen to the whole thing in context with some other instruments [Music] before so I'm using a bit of artistic license here when I call this next one a feature who is not really a new feature which is something different you can do but it is very important indeed and they've changed it for this version of melody and I'm talking about the algorithm the way in which they detect where the notes are actually out of tune or not and they say that what they've realized is that when human beings are actually listening to someone singing they're not listening to the whole of a word as such you know every single phrase and listening to every single part to see if it's in tune there's a key part of a or a main part of a note which is where we determine whether it's out of tune right in fact there's lots of variations going on with some natural singing which make it sound very very human let's have a look at this vocal that we've got here I'll quickly player Oh yesterday honey now you can see with this little line that runs all the way up here where the pitch is and say for example on this note here you can see right in the middle here it's roughly in the middle that's the part we're probably really listening to when we listening to a note and determine whether it's in tune or not and it's really handy what we can do is just double click on notes like this and I'll just pop them to the center of that note there to make sure it's in tune so if you did want to individually tune notes you can quickly do it like that forever listen now oh yesterday no I'm still not a big fan of grabbing all of the notes and retuning them I like to just you know use my ears and retune the notes which really strike me as out of tune but if you wish to do it like this you can so as we can see there's a lot of variation actually going in there for example she's singing and she's gonna slide from one note to another so technically this part in the middle is out of tune and then sometimes at the beginning of a note like this one you'll have a part which is a little bit sharper or maybe flat but often it's sharp as we attack the note probably we don't really notice it when we when we're listening to it you can still adjust some of those things I come for example grab the curve there and just move it around and make some adjustments there just to make that a little bit more perfect we've got to be careful with being too perfect right but we can adjust it nonetheless you need to use your own ears to determine where it still sounds natural or not I'll let you judge oh yesterday so that's really what they've done which is very key in this particular release and I can definitely hear a difference I'm not hearing so much robotic nurse is robotic nasur would let me know in the comments down below but it's definitely improved in this version 3 so the next one is something that I know I'll be making use of in the future because I'm a big advocate for doing some manual editing of the levels of your vocals before you put them through your compressor and before you use automation and often that means chopping the vocals up and using clip gain to adjust level of parts of the bocal which really poke out it's too loud or just too quiet well there's some new tools in Melodyne which really do help out with that and it's going to be a real big time-saver they're called the leveling tools just let's just see them in action so we've got this little bit of a vocal here let's have a listen yesterday and I'll particularly draw your attention to this note here which is a reasonable amount louder than some of the others and this one here which is quite a lot quieter so let's just grab all of the notes in that section there of course I could grab all of the notes in the whole vocal and then I'm gonna bring up the leveling tools and you can see here that we've just got two controls make quiet notes louder make loud notes quieter so as I drag this slider up let's have a look at this quiet note here okay and you can see this made that note louder without adjusting all of the other notes and then make loud notes quieter so look out for this one here and you can see as I drag it down it brings it down into the realms of the other notes so look you don't have to use them to the extremes but look that looks pretty good to me there so I'll just click on OK and have a listen Oh yesterday honey so that can really be a big time saver when you're just trying to get everything in the right ballpark before you actually do go ahead and use compression I will say especially with automation you definitely still want to be using that on vocals in your mix because your vote the volume of your vocals needs to change within the different passages of a song too so this next one for me is a real game changer and I've been like a kid with a new toy as I've been playing around with this since I got Melodyne 5 now I've been hiding something from you up until now on this interface and I'm gonna reveal it so I'll go up to the options here and I'm gonna click on show siblings and you can see here that the display has changed a little bit some of the areas of these so-called blobs in melody have changed with those lines being drawn into them those are the siblings so it sounds like this and sounds of our voice but also in this context we're also talking about the breath and you could see a breath just there it identifies those for us and it starts to treat them a little bit different and the reason for that is because as humans we can pitch the notes the sound of the voice which is making the note but we can't actually pitch the siblings we can't actually change the picture that ourselves when we sing however previously in this kind of software when we've been altering the pitch or or tidying up the pitch of some singing we've also been changing the pitch of those siblings and that's probably added to its sounding a little bit unnatural so what happens now is if we were to take a note like this and I was just to tidy up like that it's move that note to the correct position but it hasn't changed the pitch of the siblings although that did change visually that's just a visual thing it's treated it differently even if we drag it up even if we drag it up to a completely different note although it has moved up there with it it hasn't actually changed the pitch of it so this is still at the same pitch so all of these things add to making sure that it keeps natural now what's really cool about this as well is we can actually change the volume of that individually ping light bulb moment you know all of us who have used DSS in the past are now thinking ah this could be really really handy so we can actually look at that sibilance there and I'll bring up this tool here which is the siblings balance tool now look what happens now when I drag up and down you can see that the note here has got much quieter but the siblings sound the same I can do it the other way it restores the note to the original value and I'll bring that s down let's bring it all the way down to the bottom now it's going to sound really silly have a listen oh yeah I just blocked doing that for fun anyway I wouldn't do that under your circumstances so let's bring it up to a normal value oh so you could grab all of the notes in in this particular passage and then you could adjust all of the siblings all together quite potentially replacing using a de-esser I think it's probably going to be more efficient because when not working with particular ranges of frequencies and then reducing them like we do with the de-esser but it's identify those parts of the vocal which don't contain a note and it's enabling us to adjust them individually very really really cool I think even the levelling of it is very very cool four breaths as well if we have a listen here honey oh you can hear that breath from Suzy there so let's just grab that and make it a little less obvious yeah you could get rid of it completely I could even hit the Delete key on the keyboard and get rid of it so listen sometimes that could be very cool if you want to keep you know something very very tight sounding but I would probably most of the time leave it in there it's not bad to hear breaths it's sometimes they can be a little over accentuated this is a great tool for adjusting that one so as well as changing pitch in Melodyne we can also change timing as well and with timing they've also taken this siblings into consideration in a really clever way so let's take a look at this same passage again and what I'm going to do is drag out the end of this note here and to make it a little bit longer and it's going to make this note shorter so I'll just grab that and drag it out because I want to extend that note but look it's what's happening to the siblings that s there is staying the same length okay it isn't touching the actual duration of that s sound and that's because as humans of course we can intentionally extend an S but normally we kind of leave it around about the same length so it isn't stretching that out that would sound really odd so that's very very cool indeed that it does take that into account but on the other hand when it's dealing with breaths it handles it a little bit differently if we look at this section up here where we've got our breath honey if we were to change the beginning of this note here and make it earlier look what happens the breath does indeed change length X gets shorter and that's because a singer would do that if they didn't have as much time to get a breath in they would take a shorter breath so it's not leaving the breath the same length regardless of where we put it so let's have a listen not that Caesar would ever sing that part like that but you get the point some really really clever considerations there in my opinion really adding to the whole natural nature of these adjustments that we make so Melodyne five comes in a number of different packages at different prices so check the link in the description down below to find out what they are and what you get in each package you can also check upgrade options there as well now I have to say even the cheapest of those packages contains a number of the features that we've discussed in today's video now if you've got any questions at all please do ask in the comments down below and myself or somebody else from this wonderful community will try their very best to help you out if you did like this video make sure you hit the like button that lets YouTube know that it should show this video to other people as well if you didn't like this video hit the dislike button twice and if you do like this kind of content make sure you hit the subscribe button and ring the bell on YouTube so that you're notified about my future video also if you've been watching a whole bunch of my other videos and you're interested in the gear that I use please check out my gear guide there's a link for that in the description down below as well now it's been nice to see you here today thanks for joining me and I'll see you in the next video [Music]
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Length: 20min 2sec (1202 seconds)
Published: Fri Jul 03 2020
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