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we've all seen the pictures and read the stories in the history books about the kings and queens with their power and privilege and silks and furs [Music] but in this series i want to discover the other side of history i'm already quite nervous the side we don't often hear about how ordinary british people lived their lives from the tudors you'll see why it did attract my attention to the victorians throw a stone in victoria in london you will hit a drunken cat man is that many of them we are not amused from the georgians you take the saw oh my god it's horrible just seeing you do that to the people who really fought the second world war james could hear the ping of bullets and the platter of shrapnel one thing's for sure these people knew the meaning of the word tough i'll be finding the truth about their daily lives what they ate how long would that have lasted up to three years how they made a living there's even value in a rat when it's dead and those vital necessities of life what did you do if you wanted to pee go in the bucket the bucket this is british history from the bottom up you've got to admit i am terrifying this time i'm going back 500 years to england in the reign of henry viii a time of sex scandals executions and cod pieces the history books are full of his antics but what about the people who really made the country tick they may not have been well dressed or had any money but their lives are full of surprises love and courage during henry's reign living in towns was going out of fashion and it's not at all hard to see why the streets were paved with evil smelling mud and inside floors became layered with spittle vomit urine and bits of fish but even for the tudors there was someone you really didn't want to live next to and [ __ ] no giggling please because a [ __ ] was a very important person in tudor society he was the bloke who went round collecting dead animals then taking them home skinning them chopping them up and making money out of them in whatever way he could now there aren't any specific names of actual tudor knackers in the records we're going to call our one thomas grimes here's tom skinning a carcass to make saddles his whole house would have been full of little bits of bleeding animal and it would have permeated such a stink that it would have been foul even by tudor standards nevertheless he would have had a way of making a steady income enough for clothes and food and maybe even a long-suffering wife [Music] this is how tom's day would go he'd leave home about six am like most tudor men pick up his cart head off out of town towards the local farms the big money makers for tom were dead or dying cattle and horses hmm this one's got potential poor old thing [Music] even in town there could be opportunities you'd find dogs cats even the occasional horse hang on what have we got down here oh look at this a rat there's even value in a rat when it's dead back at base tom would skin carcasses for leather boil them to get the fat out for candles extract gelatin for glue and grind up the bones to make fertilizer and after years hacking about with all this flesh he became pretty good at it and wasn't bothered by the smell and sight of blood and these skills were about to open new horizons for tom all thanks to his king because henry was making a lot of enemies and tom was just the sort of chap he needed as an executioner [Music] whenever the paranoid monarch henry viii threw all his toys out of his cot and demanded the head of some hapless noble it could mean a very big payday involving one of these although the reality is wasn't it john that most criminals were hung rather than having their heads chopped up that's true hanging was for the ordinary people it was only people of royal or noble blood who were actually decapitated i mean decapitation was a whole different business john white is a historian of crime and punishment and he studied tudor executions so how does tom my naka come into it well you see the axe was often a messy business so in order to perfect the process you needed to have somebody who day by day was proficient in chopping flesh with an axe and wasn't bothered by a bit of blood and gore [Music] i can see that at least when tom started to be an executioner he might feel pretty shaky about doing this job particularly if it was someone who was high nobility well on the basis of decapitation is for people who are noble and royal you could be intimate intimidated by the shared process because there you are in front of an enormous crowd booing and jeering they like a good death yeah it could be a great lord and somebody that you know literally frightens you and you're now gonna have to publicly kill them would you get decent money for this job well you get paid more than being a [ __ ] because as an executioner there are benefits the clothes the condemned war they would become his but it was also the custom that condemned would pay almost like a tip to do me a good job what would the relationship have been like between tom and his audience well they would cheer him if he did a good execution they would boo him if he conducted a poor execution and would he have been patted on the back in the street oh no no no no no you see as a [ __ ] he'd be the lowest of the low as an executioner he'd be even lower than that everybody knows who he was he'd be jeered he was a social pariah so almost the underclass the untouchables tom's tale is a really miserable one scavenging to earn a living a rat being looked down on and then the only way of making more money is to become a figure of hate despite all this we know that many executioners were proud of the contribution that they made towards tudor society and that by and large ordinary people believed that the death penalty was the bedrock of their system of justice during the reign of henry viii one bad harvest could spell ruin even death everyone was constantly famished so imagine that you're an ordinary poor tudor person constantly obsessed by where the next meal is coming from and suddenly you're given the opportunity of a new life where every day you're faced with a banquet i'm talking about a career in the culinary profession not only was it a proper paid job but you'd be fed and surrounded by a bounty of delicious food which often needed testing yes but be careful what you wish for because this tale has a bitter ending richard roose began working in a kitchen in the early 1500s around the time young henry viii was getting to know the ropes as king richard was probably too poor to attend school so at age seven when a kitchen boy was wanted at his lord's manor house he jumped at it before sun up on his first day he was sent off by his mum to walk several miles across the fields to his new life it was a chance that offered richard career development and who knows maybe even the opportunity to meet the rich and famous if he was lucky little richard got to stay in the big house with the other staff with a proper bed and windows with glass in but he probably only saw his mum once a week on his day off mark meltonville is a tudor cooking expert so he's just started here what kind of jobs would he have been doing well if he is a boy of the kitchen then it's right down the bottom to start with there's going to be a lot of sweeping that and go and get me some wood chopping wood so he's going to do a lot of really menial stuff pot washing not very nice i'm afraid cleaning all those cauldrons how do you clean them because they didn't have squeegee soap no no no squeegee but they have plenty of soap it's very easy to make it's made commercially and even if you want to just make some yourself in the kitchen you take a pan full of fats and bacon fat and put a little bit of ash in it richard would have been expected to use the soap to wash his hands before the day's work began to clean his teeth he'd have used candle soot chalk or salt what kind of hours would he have been working probably starting quite early in the morning so they're going to be down here between five and six getting everything ready because the meal of the day is going to be sent over to the house by half of 10 11 but there's only two cooked meals a day the last one's out by 3 30. so after that it's clear up set it all down and once it gets a bit older a pot of beer that's really quite pleasant isn't it you're the dish of the day i'm beginning to warm to the idea of being a tudor cook and we haven't even got to the food yet he's going to be working with so much more um fresh meat than anybody outside in her farm's getting it's going to be fresh meat almost every day so it's just going to wow him perhaps it was access to all that rich food but richard grew a little curvy and must have made a name for himself because he was soon headhunted to be cooked for the bishop of rochester this should have been a major opportunity for richard but the country was in the middle of a major political crisis and richard soon found himself in hot water quite literally in 1527 henry viii asked the pope if he could divorce his queen catherine she was knocking on a bed hadn't given him a son and besides henry had met someone new gorgeous anne boleyn who was henry noted had a nice pair of pretty duckies but some people in england failed to support henry including yes the bishop of rochester the bishop's opposition to henry's divorce was about to have a devastating impact on his cook it all started on february the 18th 1531 when the bishop held a banquet and he wasn't feeling great that evening so he didn't eat anything but his guests scoffed away and by morning 17 of them were ill and two had died immediately rumors abounded everybody thought it was poison and the finger was pointed at the cook that night who was richard ruse they said that he had deliberately attempted to murder the bishop on the instructions of a vengeful and berlin more likely it was just a bad case of food poisoning but henry was hopping mad that the name of his sweet anne had been dragged through the mud so he sent richard to the tower to be tortured until guess what he confessed to it all being his fault it sounds like things were pretty grim for richard but they were about to get a whole lot grimmer henry passed a law especially for richard permitting a new form of execution death by boiling but it wouldn't be a simple matter of 12 minutes in the pan and you're done no it's recorded that richard was locked in a chain and pulled up and down with a gibbet at diverse times till he was dead and that took two long hours documents from the time record how henry viii joked to his courtiers i've cooked the cook it was a world away from what kitchen boy richard had imagined all those years ago when all he had to worry about was the washing out [Music] so a top tip for survival in henry's england would be don't ruffle the kings rough [Music] which you'd think would be easy given that most people lived in the countryside in simple houses with thatched roofs and walls made of sticks and dung minding their own business [Music] this is what life was like for the vast majority of people in tudor england a world away from the sex scandals and skull duggary and fabulous costumes that you saw in the course of king henry viii take for example a yorkshire farmer richard jenkinson and his wife whose name isn't recorded so let's call her anne this might be the couple out in the field at harvest time richard must be as worn out as his trousers like 90 percent of the tudors richard's family spent most of their time in the great outdoors teasing a living from the soil and it was long long hours they could start from as early as five o'clock in the morning and not finish till they lost the light which in the summer months might be 10 o'clock in contrast to their king who pigged out on banquets every day there were just two simple meals something to munch in the fields perhaps bread and cheese and at the end of the day one hot meal to look forward to this is the kind of thing that anne would have prepared for their tea this is pottage made out of turnips and beans thickened with a few breadcrumbs and maybe just a sprinkle of local herbs on special occasions they might even eat a chicken [Music] at night totally exhausted from the labors of the day richard and anne would fall asleep on their crude mattress made of straw with the kids just a few yards from them with five or six it would be a squeeze and if they had any precious animals like a prized pig that could sleep in the room too you couldn't afford to let it slope off and pigs are notoriously difficult to house train so as you can imagine the room would have stunk like crazy but more important if you spent a lot of time in the proximity of farm animals you ran the risk of contracting killer diseases it's no wonder that the average life expectancy was just 35 years there was no nhs and tudor medicine was rubbish problem with gout apply worms pig's marrow and herbs boiled with a red-haired dog bit deaf stick of hairs gall bladder and some fox grease in your ear with a fire in the middle of the room and no chimney the place would have been full of smoke so the children might well have had respiratory infections but people and animals would be snugged together and hopefully the thatch wouldn't catch fire [Music] if they were lucky the next day would be a sunday and their only day off but there was no let up for anne because she'd also have to make everybody's clothes starting with a bit of fleece straight off a sheep's back marion knights a tudor technology expert knows and secret how do we get it from that into some kind of yarn that we can make something out of well that's where this comes in ah the spindle this is the drop spindle how does it work well basically you just spin it so this twiddles around and i can feel when there's enough twist because it nips my finger up here then you can start pulling this out a bit more it is very slow labour intensive and slow how often would people have been doing this every time she'd got an empty pair of hands she would have got the spindle out you know waiting for the pot to boil waiting for the baby to wake up standing at the well waiting her turn this was the only way she could clothe her family and would also have done her own weaving so what sort of outfit would she have made for her husband richard i'm meeting clothing expert nina mikaila the thing that sticks out for me more than anything else is how robust all this is i would have thought that he would have been in rags well no i don't suppose he'd last very long in the fields in rags it is very robust he's got a warm woolen layer on the top and in fact the whole thing is lined in another layer of wool yeah you'd be all right in the fields in this and i saw this under here well yeah it's a bit startling isn't it it's got red i wasn't expecting that there was a very strong belief in this period that red was a colour that kept you healthy and it was a good colour to wear near to your skin and then you've got this shirt underneath that yeah so everyone man woman and child always has a linen layer next to their skin and that's the bit you can wash which none of these you could be washed in water big question vest and pants no pants i'm afraid most men used their shirt which was long and split at the sides so you could tuck the front this way in the back that way and that was basically your pants you'd be nice and warm yeah what about the women well women absolutely no pants long skirts don't need them all the time that we've been talking there's been one item of clothing that's been catching my eye here excuse me about this you'll see why it did attract my attention i don't know what you're talking about are you sure i didn't realize that ordinary people had god pieces yeah by this day it was just completely standard wear on men's hose so that they were taking in the fashion of the richer people and incorporating it into their own exactly i mean it does seem like a weird fashion but in the 15th century the cod piece didn't exist it starts as just a simple flat flap that's used to cover the fly yeah and then human maybe male nature comes in and it becomes a bit more exaggerated and a bit more padded and embellished until it is by this stage just standard almost like the one the king's wearing but king henry's influence on richard and anne was about to extend even beyond cod pieces it was the summer of 1513 just four years into the reign of young king henry [Music] one morning richard got up as usual went down to the river to fetch a bucket of water probably had a quick pee in the hedge on the way when suddenly he was stopped by one of his land owners servants who gave him a message on more likely an order the lives of richard and his family were about to be turned upside down by the activities of his firebrand king henry viii richard was being called up for military service during the reign of henry viii an englishman could be called up at any time to serve his king in battle and in 1513 that's exactly what happened to richard jenkins the young henry viii looked like this and he dreamt of being a great warrior king and ruling both scotland and france so aged 22 he took his toughest troops and invaded france james iv of scotland couldn't believe his luck with henry gone england could be his so it fell to henry's queen catherine to recruit an army for him 25 000 soldiers including richard poor farmers like him had to provide their own weapons luckily richard had just the thing because in tudor times there were sheep everywhere hello bear with me here you see in order to stop them wandering all over the fields and eating the turnips these things began to appear throughout the tudor landscape hedgerows and to trim those you needed one of these things a bill hook which was a simple slashing siding tool which you just made the hedges tidy with with a few modifications richard's hedge trimmer was fashioned into a lethal weapon his local blacksmith simply tweaked the bill hook design with a series of nasty twists and turns [Music] now richard was ready to take on the scots to find out how i'm visiting the royal armouries in leeds and meeting curator andy dean richard wouldn't have been able to escape from going to into the army wouldn't he no i mean it's part of that feudal system so they knew that if the call came there was no getting out of it and possibly your wives and your children would come along with you oh really why would they do that well as part of the baggage train and women had a vital role before the battle and after the battle i mean obviously picking up the bits but of course you're more likely to fight if you feel comfortable you have your loved ones around you and of course you don't sort of just go somewhere fight and come home again you might be away for 40 days and so having family around you then maybe there's a greater reason for the ordinary man to fight harder yeah to get to the battle richard ann and the kids had to walk about 150 miles sleeping in the fields each night they couldn't carry much food so the army often looted from villages along the way of course going to war would have been terrible but it would have been a bit of an adventure too remember richard had probably only ever been about 10 miles from his home before and suddenly off he goes and he can bring his wife and kids it would have been like some sort of weird summer holiday except he might have got killed richard would have to summon up the courage to confront one of these guys so noisy and heavy i'd have wet myself [Music] what am i gonna do against this guy i don't think this is going to be much use no he's almost impervious but if you came across this guy actually you and your mates have got the perfect weapon you can see where the gaps are where would you thrust this spike bang exactly so it's gone through his eye socket into his brain now it's called a bill hook for a reason what would you do with the hook here no idea all right well i would wrap this around the back of his neck haul him to the ground richard would need nerves of steel but he did also have some protection this would be the most basic a jack of plates uh the plates inside the uh linen garment could be made out of horns this is really cool well it needs to be heavy but not so heavy it limits you and it's protecting obviously your engine heart lungs so your engine is protected but your computer's not so we need something for the top end of you as well all right and again computer cover yeah and there would be an armory and there will be 50 100 of these and you'll be get one of these and you pad it to make it your own on it goes you got your jack of plates now with 20 other blokes all lined up who are motivated you've suddenly become a very important part of the army you've got to admit i am terrifying when they finally arrived to fight the battle of flodden the english army faced stiff odds attacking uphill against greater numbers and the scots had bigger cannons if the scots won and captured a chunk of england it could have been the end of henry viii richard watched in awe as he waited for his turn on one side you'd got the scots with their long pikes which were brilliant against knights in armor on horseback but weren't nearly as good when it came to close fighting and they were up against richard and the other tudor farmer soldiers armed with equipment better suited to hand-to-hand combat bill hooks which were stabbing and thything weapons richard and his comrades began to push the scots back finally in one last desperate move the scottish king charged down right into the heart of the english ranks but the infantry held firm they pulled him off his horse and slaughtered him king james iv of scotland killed by common farmers with bill hooks [Music] the english army had won a famous victory and richard could now return home with his adapted hedge trimmer our simple farmer had helped save henry viii from a humiliating defeat one that could have ended his entire reign phew and with all that blood sweat and toil the tudors needed to let their hair down and fun for our tudor ancestors was pretty much the same as it is today for us festivals is that's the way to glastonbury football on the edson and most important of all a glass of ale down the pub and if you lived in leatherhead surrey this could have been your local 500 years ago presiding over everything from the brewing of the beer through to the ladling out to the guests was a woman eleanor rumming can have a pint please [Music] this is eleanor still welcoming customers to the pub and the running horse is a modern twist on the pub's original name rumming's house eleanor's life was tough she'd be up at dawn seven days a week fetching water from the river and cleaning up from the night before she had a kitchen over here somewhere set away from the pub and in here she would have made bread and cooked all the meals for the family and around here you would have had pigs and chickens and there would have been lots of herbs growing so that she could produce the meat and the medicine for her family but the most important part of her workplace was here this would have been where she did the brewing elena's ale was old school even then after the barley was malted she'd have added her own signature mix of herbs like thyme rosemary nettle yarrow and mugwort it would have been a murky brown brew and tasted sour and smoky and it would go off pretty quickly because eleanor didn't use hops which are important for preserving beer she produced about 10 gallons a week for her family and all the rest was put on sale because in those days everybody drank ale even children partly because it was thought to be more nutritious than water certainly didn't give you the [ __ ] like water did and it made you feel good [Music] we know all about eleanor from a bloke who stopped off at the pub one night for a drink and he happened to be henry viii's poet laureate a bloke by the name of john skelton and he wrote this poem about eleanor from our point of view it's brilliant because it describes an ordinary person in great detail you may think he wrote it because he was besotted by her beauty but in fact what he says was her face all boozy calmly crinkled wonderfully wrinkled like a roast pig's ear bristling with hair it's charming isn't it skeleton goes on insulting eleanor for about 600 lines [Music] but it wasn't just her looks that he was slagging off this was full-scale character assassination according to skelton she was a sexual deviant she was a dodgy business woman she cut her ale with all sorts of disgusting stuff look at this and sometimes she blends the dung of her hens i can't imagine skelton came back for a second pine can you so what's the truth about eleanor jay gawai's 2018 brewer of the year has studied the ancient craft of ale making all the way back to tudor times [Music] why does the poem slag her off so much it's implied quite heavily that she's doing things like watering down the ale or cheating customers um do you think she really did cheat the customers yeah she was fined to pennies for um for serving false measures and she was lucky that she was fined one of the other punishments would have been a thorough ducking in the local pond like a witch yeah like a witch that's one of the things that strikes me about the poem she does come across as a bit witchy doesn't she there is said to be a relationship between witches and ale wives it's true that ale wives would have used a big cauldron may well have had a cat for pest control and they did put a broom outside the pub to show the beer was ready but why would anyone want to demonize women like eleanor what begins to happen is the brewing industry begins to become professional and when that happens the alewives are a considerable threat so what do you do when you're in the threat you spread rumors about them you spread lies about them you want to make their product sell less than your product what about mr rumming we don't hear much about him i imagine him as some drunken old sot sitting in the corner while his wife coins it all in yes and there is a reason why alewives are called ale wives and not ale women because most of them were probably married and eleanor would have had a certain amount of financial freedom but it all belonged to their husbands so eleanor did all that hard work didn't directly receive any financial reward and risked a ducking in the local pond i wish i could have been standing here 500 years ago watching the real eleanor presiding over her little boozy kingdom but as for this poem i feel split down the middle about it because on one hand it's funny it's bawdy it brings to life a working woman in the tudor period but on the other hand it takes the mick out of her it slags her off and that kind of writing about working women at that time helped drive a nail in the coffin of their lives and it meant that they were cut off from their work and all the opportunities that go with it for centuries to come [Music] over the course of his reign henry viii managed to annoy the pope the french the scots and it seems most people in europe how did it happen they'd had quite enough of henry it's just another oops on me [Music] and now the threat of invasion hung in the air the new situation demanded that england have a ready and well-equipped navy which meant that suddenly a lot of ordinary people had exciting new job possibilities and the chance of long-haul travel seven thousand new seamen were taken on as henry expanded the royal navy from five to forty warships so what kind of life could a novice sailor expect in the swashbuckling early days of the navy well for once we can answer that question in incredible detail thanks to a remarkable tudor time capsule that emerged from the drink nearly 40 years ago there is the wreck of the merry rose it has come to the surface in 1982 it's a wonderful structure and a wonderful sign salvagers recovered henry's flagship mary rose which had sunk back in 1545. the mary rose is safe and well on board were 19 000 artifacts and the jumbled bones of 179 sailors and in one corner of a lower deck archaeologists found one complete skeleton an ordinary seaman we'll call john a man who went down with his ship so this is our man this is john this is john alex hildred is a curator at the mary rose trust and first dived the wreck back in 1979. he doesn't seem hugely tall he isn't actually he's about our height more or less about five foot four ish maybe five foot five it's one five four and a half yeah perfect almost identical almost identical what about age uh age you can see that the sutures have all closed so he's probably between 20 and 30 a perfect age for somebody who's a hard-working individual john who would have looked something like this was one of a crew of over 400. [Music] i can't wait to see his home the ship where his body was found are you ready yeah you know i've never seen this before no really truly [Music] come on come on have a look [Music] oh wow i've so always wanted to see this to me this is like the tomb of tootin carmen [Music] half the ship rotted away but the remaining half's in good nick it's as though the mary rose was cut down the middle lengthways to give us a sneaky look inside john's home where was he actually found he was found just over there so this is the hold of the ship and there were four people in there and five big barrel well barrels about this high with tar or pitch in them so it looks as though he was working it looks as though he was working [Music] john had about the most important job on the ship to stop it sinking by keeping it waterproof what's known as caulking at sea his mission was to constantly check that the timbers were watertight and to repair them with tar and pitch before the ship sank every day he would have worked a relentless shift pattern of four hours on four hours off signaled by the tolling of the ship's bell john may have been a local lad who learned his craft from about 14 years of age as an apprentice at portsmouth dockyard then around 18 he'd have had his big chance of a life of adventure at sea imagine his first day he must have been completely awestruck do you get any idea where john might have slept likely he would have just slept anywhere that he could have done maybe on the storage deck above or on the main deck by the guns that's the sort of thing we hear of people just crunching themselves up beside the guns and falling asleep as much as they can i bet everybody would assume that he would have slept in a hammock hammocks weren't around yet so no no hammocks and for an ordinary seaman like john there were certainly no cabins or bunks either all right we've got him up in the morning what about his ablutions well the only evidence we have for that are two channels if you like both up on the upper deck in the stern which basically they were like urinals and they went out through the side of the ship with little protruding basically beams which had a hole in the center so everything would go out the side [Music] if we got any evidence of the kinds of things that he might have done in order to make his spare time bearable actually really close to where he was found just on the deck above we have evidence of two gaming boards musical instruments in fact we had a fiddle that was found just by the main mast so we've got fiddle and a tabor drum and pipes i love the idea that you've got a ship's band you look at something like this and all you see in your mind's eye is the serious nature of running a ship but they were grooving away as well also near john skeleton they found one of these i know what that is that reminds me of primary school yeah those are one of our most common objects both the anti-knit combs part which are very very fine and then the one for normal grooming he would have had nets wouldn't he probably and you do hear of people throwing themselves in the sea to get rid of the knits but john might have got comfort from a special friend a small skeleton was found in the doorway where john would have picked up his tools interestingly in the opening of it because it was a sliding door so almost jammed in the crack was it was a small dog [Music] oh i know we called him hatch because he wasn't too far away from from the hatches but but he was so far away that he couldn't get out he couldn't get out no i know and he actually is our most complete skeleton i don't want to get too weepy about this but john would have seen him every day wouldn't he would have and he was only 18 months old the dog just a just a baby really let's move on before i show myself up [Music] this may be one of the great archaeological treasures of the world but it's also the place where young john lived and worked every day along with 500 of his mates in very dark cramped conditions imagine though how proud he must have felt about being a crew member of the mary rose [Music] but in july 1545 the french attacked the english fleet at portsmouth henry watched as the mary rose went out to engage the enemy all the cannons to starboard fired a volley together but as she turned her gun ports fatally dipped beneath the water line and water rushed in john's whole world would literally have been turned upside down there would have been things flying across the room up down backwards forwards smacking him in the face then a final gush of freezing cold water and then that was it no escape the mary rose sank like a stone only 30 of over 400 crew members escaped john perished where he worked i'd like to think that john would be pleased to know that the english navy finally managed to repulse the french and also that he might be a bit tickled if he knew that 500 years after he died his life would become immortalized the mary rose had been henry's pride and joy for 34 years its end foreshadowed his own he died two years later and thanks to his reign the lives of ordinary people would never be the same again
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