Whos More Advanced? The Nomai Or The Owlks?

hello everyone i am the lore explorer and this is outer wild an open solar system exploration game in which we explore the ancient ruins of two long-lost space fairing societies the nomine and the alex and throughout the game we get to experience the daily lives of these two species the way they thought about the universe and how they survived in it and now that the dlc has been out for a while i have been seeing this sentiment that it seems clear that the nominee are much more advanced than the alps but to be honest i'm not so sure it's such a simple comparison so in today's loop i want to take a deep dive into this and talk about the advanced nature of both of these species and try to find a way to fairly compare the two to each other alright so let's get into it and address the concept i think it's quite natural to believe that the nomi are far more advanced than the alks what i saw of the nomine when i first played the game gave off the impression that they were probably the most advanced species in the entire universe they have a deep fundamental understanding of time and space which they demonstrate through black hole utilization and manipulation they were traveling the universe with faster than light warp travel and their sole goal as a species was to search out and understand new things while the outs on the other hand seemed to live simple lives in wooden houses for the most part before they even left their home moon it seems the life they live was mostly a relaxing one sitting by the river watching dragonflies flutter by and maybe at night time looking up at the sky with a telescope but this telescope is one hint that the alks have been a pretty advanced species before they even left their moon this seems to be the same like tech we find on the stranger which we know to be a mind reading technology that's also capable of affecting your perception by giving the user a vision another hint that they're quite advanced is the simple idea that they could even create the stranger to begin with but just comparing the two on paper right away it does become clear that the nominees seem more advanced so i guess that's your too long didn't watch but the fact is we have to compare the technology of the two species to see which one actually has more advanced knowledge and understanding and technology which may make this video sort of all over the place but i think it'll be fun and i may just come to a different conclusion than you'd be expecting i think the easiest way to do this and keep some structure to the video is just to dive into one species then try to match one for one with comparing the technological advancements of the other species so let's begin with the favorite and seemingly obviously more advanced the noma the very first introduction we have to the nominee is them using black and white hole technology to warp themselves a very vast distance through space to follow a mysterious signal they do so on a pretty big spaceship that on its own is almost annoyingly advanced the one time we see it in space is sort of questionable since it's at the eye but when we do see the vessel in space around the eye it's simply stationary not in orbit which for a spacecraft to be able to do is actually really amazing and would rely on capabilities way beyond our understanding and it seems other know my spacecraft throughout the solar system are able to do that as well so i don't think it's a phenomenon just related to the eye the no my vessel also has five escape pods with a hundred pods available in each one so in case of an emergency theoretically the gnome i have life wraps enough for 500 nomi and the rafts are programmed to fly the endangered nominee to a relatively safe location which does prove to be quite effective when an emergency does happen the vessel also has some form of artificial gravity that's power reliant when we turn the power back on in the vessel gravity takes hold and everything falls back down to the floor almost instantly so it just kind of works sadly some of this technology was lost to the group of nomi that we know and we see in the game but by the end of their story they had recreated or invented new ways of dealing with almost all of these same problems the only technology or system they'd really have to recreate to make a new vessel would be a coordination system but after seeing their other computer systems and their functionalities i imagine this would be an easy task for the nomi it's also worth noting the nomi's new system of gravity manipulation which is not relying on electricity or power like the vessels gravity crystals once the noma landed on brittle hollow they learned that the crust there had inherent gravitational properties after studying and refining this crust the nomi were able to get great use out of it by manipulating their inherent gravitational effects not only do they make floors for vertical or straight up upside down areas that allow you to stand on them as if nothing is different they also made vertical and horizontal elevators of sorts that allowed users to span great distances without the worry of falling they also came up with more imaginative ways to use these gravity wells the nominee actually used them to mine and move vast amounts of precious heavy metals from all over the solar system most visibly done in the timber hearth mines and last but not least the gnome i also use the gravity crystals in much larger forms to launch spacecraft without the need for fueling them which gives us a great opportunity to talk about the no my shuttles now i know you're probably sitting there rolling your eyes at me these shuttles are actually very advanced spacecraft nasa would do just about anything to get their hands on just a scrap of it to launch these shuttles the nominee used giant gravity cannons with enormous gravity crystals lining the sides of it and when they're turned on the gravity crystals activate and launch the shadow out at great speeds affording it enough velocity to completely leave the solar system if it wanted to now looking at the shuttle control panel is what usually throws people off three buttons and you can't even control it directly how primitive but no don't let the simplicity trick you think of it this way if you were flying a plane would you rather it all be done by a computer while all you need to do is click up down left or right or would you rather have to learn 557 buttons and their relationship to each other just to fly the dang thing my wager is the four button plane well this is a three button spaceship and it's amazing left slot is launch middle slot prompts the user to use the installed warp core to return to the gravity cannon instantly and the right slot is to land the ship when the shuttle is inside a planet's gravity well three buttons allow you to explore the entire solar system without wasting an ounce on fuel never having to worry about return trips or miscalculations and allowing you to instantly avert all danger known to you by immediately returning home at the flip of a switch not to mention even the landing is all done by gravitational manipulation once close to a planet the shuttle locks onto it and begins to manipulate gravity around it to slowly descend the craft down to the surface of the planet now hopefully with that explanation you can see that the no my shuttles are actually an amazing demonstration of the nomi's capabilities and understanding of the universe and now we've been talking for a long while and we've only really talked about the no my spacecraft so far the sun station orbital probe cannon and the whitehole station are all on that same tier as well i shouldn't have to explain how the sun station is a genuine marvel regardless of the fact that it failed in its purpose something able to orbit so close to the sun for so long would have to be engineered to an insane degree not only somehow allowing the nomi to deal with the intense heat generated by the sun the sun station also somehow has to combat the constant tugging of the sun's gravity and these stations have all been powered for 280 thousand years plus without any maintenance which just goes to speak to how capable the nomi were as craftsmen another thing to touch on is the way the nomad live their lives in their cities sure the sunless city and its solar panels are quite impressive but it's hard to ignore the fact that the nomad lived a few hundred meters away from a literal black hole on brittle hollow not only were they able to construct the city that was able to deal with the bombardment from a lava moon from above but they also engineered their entire hanging city to survive the black hole and its effect from below not only that this is actually how they powered the hanging city as well all the power running this entire city comes from this black hole and the fact that they were able to do all of this after being stranded and having lost most of their tolls and knowledge speaks all the more to the inherent advance nature of the nomad but let's talk about the elephant in the room the ash twin project it's kind of tough to actually judge this with the focus on advanced nature yes it's a solar system-wide inner working machine that is a hundred percent capable of effectively sending things back in time but also the nominee never got it to work just before they unexpectedly died they admitted that they would likely never be able to get it to work in their lifetimes at least or at the very least the sun station would never be able to generate that power and at the time they couldn't even conceive of another way to produce the power needed for the ash twin projects but just because it doesn't work doesn't mean it's not technologically advanced many individual pieces of the ash twin projects definitely do function and they're sort of marvels on their own the simple fact that the nominee we're able to utilize the black hole on brutal hollow to create the smaller warp cores is amazing they take empty warp cores expose them to the event horizon of the black hole and somehow capture a black hole and its counter white hole in the warp cores which allowed them to call upon their ability at any time and these were just the small versions that they used to teleport about the solar system with the nomad were even able to recreate the advanced version of the warp cores which is able to withstand a lot more power than the previous version and with their new knowledge of the negative time interval they were able to bring new applications to their black hole technology after getting enough power to the advanced warp core it has the exact effect the gnome i designed it to have it's able to send memories and people whatever goes through it back in time by 22 minutes and while that is probably the most advanced aspect of the ash twin projects i've always looked at the memory statues as just about equal the fact that the no my statues are able to connect with you and record your memories no matter where you are in the solar system is quite amazing it's even able to reach you all the way at the quantum moon 6 location which orbits the eye of the universe itself so far away from the statue we're barely even able to see the sun yet that memory statue records your memories just fine but the ability to somehow read and record your memories tends to prove that no my understands the brain and general physics to a great degree which speaks to the fact that the nomad were able to just understand and even utilize the quantum phenomenon we find throughout this outer wild solar system they were able to work out the three important roles and they even created the quantum tower on the quantum moon to allow them to entangle with it and travel to the different locations to be honest i could probably go on and on about how advanced the gnome i are but i think we've touched on the most advanced and important pieces of their society and this hasn't even talked about everything we can consider but i think that these examples demonstrately show the nomi's advanced nature the spacecraft the noma used don't need fuel they affect gravity or even space time around them to fly they all have their own form of artificial gravity they were able to understand and utilize the quantum phenomenon their statues were able to record and store your memories as well as affect your perception to some extent and on top of all of that the nominees were able to utilize and manipulate black holes which allowed them to teleport and create everything needed for effective time travel aside from the power source and while they never really got that to work even the idea that they created it in the first place took an advanced understanding of the universe as a whole but to be honest when analyzing all this it seems like the alks have at least similar technology in just about all of those areas or at least they demonstrate a deep understanding of most of those concepts in some sense let's compare the no my vessel to the stranger now while the nomi we see don't really use the vessel it's tech they had when they arrived and like i said i think they could probably recreate it pretty easily if they tried and i think it's a better comparison than the nominee shuttles versus stranger the vessel deals with artificial gravity in an unknown way however they do it in a way that's reliant on power but once the power is activated gravity seems to be all over the place and it just works as expected the alks chose to deal with this in a different way the gravity inside the stranger is essentially false not really gravity at all the rotation of the stranger keeps us mostly pinned to the ground as if gravity were doing it but it's not really gravity but this does demonstrate an understanding of the concept the stranger also shows some advanced understanding of gravity or space manipulation in other ways as a stranger has also just sat stationary in space for most of its time in our solar system and just as i mentioned the vessel does that with the eye the stranger does it here too one way the stranger is behind the vessel is it only seems to have seven or so spacecraft on board that isn't the stranger itself and so in case of an emergency only about seven alk could escape the stranger safely and even then it'd be up to the pilot to get themselves somewhere safe afterwards so it's not really as advanced as the vessel in that sense but the individual ships that we actually find don't seem to have any conventional engines of any kind so we can assume that they're quite advanced from the get-go but honestly even with that and the warp technology on the vessel i have to say the stranger is probably more advanced than the vessel in my opinion at least it's not even really just a spacecraft it's half planet half spacecraft half machine yes three halves just deal with it the fact that the ox were able to stuff massive land masses and entire rivers into their spacecraft is simply amazing and how it all works together is essentially beyond the conventional understanding of the universe i'd have to imagine the nominee were probably capable of something similar but would never consume an entire planet's resources just to create one ship like that it's just kind of against their code but still it's something the elks do have that the nominee don't and we see for ourselves that it just works they've bio-engineered a spacecraft to be an inside out planet instead of walls or windows they've made huge screens that depict what would be outside the spacecraft and it's decked out with an artificial day night cycle as the giant light in the stranger goes out at certain intervals this sort of goes to show that the ouch had a basic understanding for the need of these natural phenomena that they've evolved around as a species if they didn't recreate a day night cycle and their ability to see the night sky then maybe they would have some mental or even physical problems arise during their immensely long journey to the eye making it as close to their home was not only a good way to deal with the mental challenges they'd also be able to naturally store farm and find food and air and whatnot while the nomad would have to store their food water and air the stranger sort of has a unique ability to generate these things as it would fly through space i'd say it's probably one of the most advanced forms of space travel i could even conceive of i guess it could have a cooler source of propulsion but the fact is we don't even really know what that is they also don't seem to need conventional fuel to move the ship and this is all ignoring the fact that the stranger has a built-in cloaking device but we'll talk about that later we can also sort of fairly compare the no my statues to the alkalite technology in some sense as well they're both able to read the user's mind and even change the user's perception in some sense the aux staff technology gives us visions but to know my statutes sort of do as well when we're shown the flashing bright blue lights every time the statue activates the statues are able to store everything they record but they're also kind of hooked up to a computer with the ash twin projects so i'm not sure that's a fair comparison if the staffs are hooked up to a computer as we see later they're able to store the information too but the alk like tech has a lot more utilizations than i feel like the no my statute does the alex use this to communicate with each other they use it to observe and scan space around them which allows them to get visions and you know interpret what they're seeing and they also use the light tech to scan and digitize objects but not only objects it seems the alks were able to scan and digitize entire beings as well when it gets down to it again i'd have to say that the alk's light tech is more advanced than the nanomi's memory statue technology the light tech just has more utilizations and at the end of the day the light tech is sort of able to trick the no my statues normally when we die the atp statues don't really do anything let's say we live for seven minutes and then die well the statue records for that seven minutes then they essentially stop recording or they have nothing to record and at the end of the 22 minute loop it sends our memories back in time and it'll show us those seven minutes played backwards but if we die to enter the alks simulation at seven minutes the statues will keep recording as if nothing happened and since the statues connect to and record our memories the fact that we die and the statues can still record our memories that i mean our brains dead we can't make memories it just speaks to the fact that the alk simulation is really somehow hosting our entire essence as a being inside their simulation a better comparison to technologies might be this light technology versus the nomines black hole technology which would be you know light versus absence of light and it's a cool little dichotomy there and i'd say they'd have to equal out there so ignoring that for now this brings us to the next tech the alks simulation and it's obvious that this is a super advanced piece of technology not only does it really simulate uh actual reality the alks have essentially turned themselves into ever living beings as long as they keep that base fire dry and burning they will be kept living inside the simulation forever now nothing the nomi has even really conceived of really compares to this i mean this is just kind of in its own ballpark so we'll just have to say the negative time interval and the simulated reality extending life indefinitely sort of cancel each other out then we sort of have all these miscellaneous know my tech the projection polls are advanced cities warp cores quantum utilization and it all kind of gets lined up and compared to the alk's cloaking technology well yes the gnomite do show a great understanding of the universe with their miscellaneous tech and their applications and it's pretty advanced stuff i'd say the alks cloaking device sort of equates to all of that it's hard to understate how amazing true cloaking technology is you'd have to master the light spectrum and its makeup to such a degree that it's mind-boggling all of the signals something like the stranger would send out and normally create all being blocked then all the natural signals that we would normally find in this vast region that we know of as space all being perfectly recorded matched and projected out of the other side that's just amazingly advanced as of now we have a hard time cloaking some of our devices from one wavelength imagine doing all of the wavelengths at the same time from all angles at all times it's amazing nothing we could even conceive of so after analysis when it comes down to it i'd have to say that the most advanced of the alk technology sort of equals the most advanced nature of the know my technology especially considering that the gnome i never got the ashton projects to actually work but in reality i'd have to conclude that the nomi are probably the more advanced species inherently i've done the comparison as fairly as i can looked at it objectively and it seems like the alks have at least matched the nomin with their own tech you know point for point but the truth is we're comparing the alks a species with all of their tools and knowledge at their disposal a species that's essentially at the height of themselves in almost every sense to the nomi a species who has lost almost all their tools lost their vast bank of knowledge on the vessel when it crashed and has been cut off from their support system that is communicating and relying on the help of the other nomad clans and even despite all of these setbacks the nominee were still able to create all the amazing stuff that we find out of essentially nothing and still basically match the alex one from one in amazing tech and still have four or five quite advanced things waiting in the wings that had a huge impact but not might be looked at is so advanced i think the real fair comparison here would be between the alks and the no my clans out in the universe as a whole but sadly all we know about them is they had survived until near the end if not the end of the universe we aren't really sure when their transmissions came through to the vessel but the nominee survived until the sun started spontaneously exploding at the end of the universe so it would be only logical to say that they would have still been advancing their knowledge and understanding of the universe until their last days in it while the alks on the other hand have locked themselves into a digital reality and nothing they can do can reverse that their real bodies have withered away to leather and bone and they are effectively stuck in their own created digital jail no longer capable of advancing anything as a species so really the initial fan instinct in my opinion is spot on while the alks show a great understanding of the universe and do compare quite well to the advanced nature of the nomad we see that's really not a fair comparison i think that if we got an alk and anomi in the same room the nominee would be able to smoke the alk in being able to tell us about the nature of the universe and of course this is all just my opinion i was just sort of surprised how long the alks seemed to keep up with the nomi in this one for one comparison but in the end i think the nominee that we know still prevail and the real fair comparison would be the know my species as a whole versus the alk species as a whole and i'd have to say that the nominee are so far above the alks they would probably be embarrassed but of course let me know what you think about that in the comments are they know my we know more advanced than the alex is it even a fair comparison and of course if you enjoyed the 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Channel: The Lore Explorer

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Keywords: outer wilds, the lore explorer, theories, video game theories, nomai, owlks

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Length: 23min 4sec (1384 seconds)

Published: Sat Apr 09 2022