Which Emma movie is better? 2020 or 1996?

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I was really scared to watch this film. but  what can I say? not all heroes wear bonnets. hello and welcome back to my channel. now if you   haven't been here before. you  might not know..... [coughing] I do say by me I have been caught in a draft.  hello and welcome back to my channel. my name   is leena norms and if you haven't been here  before, you might not know the world's on   fire. well the world is on fire but it's  important to occasionally maintain a love   of the trivial. are women's voices trivial.  are you a secret misogynist Leena? I would   recommend when pondering any climate of crisis  to take a brief period drama break. and that's   what Universal Pictures gave me the opportunity  to do the other day. they let me see the new   adaptation of 'Emma' early. god bless. send it  up. not spon by them. I was gifted obviously a   screening to see the film. and I was jubilated  and also incredibly nervous as I know a lot of   Jane Austen fans have been. for those of us that  are still reeling from the funeral of 'Cats'. god   rest it's soul. it's a nervous time to be dipping  into new adaptations of old loves. my true love   of all the Jane Austen's is 'Emma' and on top of  that, my true film adaptation love is the 1996   Gwyneth Paltrow adaptation. so today I thought  I'd fill our lives with fun and frivolity and   review the two films. why do it with nuance? we're  literally going to pitch them against each other Ahhh I'm fainting. frightfully  overcome with the excitement. if you have continued past this point and  honestly have never seen or read 'Emma' before   and don't want to be spoiled.. I mean you're  a few sandwiches short of a picnic and I can't   help you there mate. I guess this is mainly for  fans of 'Emma' like me who might be nervous about   seeing the film or people who have already seen  the film and want to talk about the nuances and   how they feel about it because I have a lot of  feelings. now there will be a winner here and a   loser. none of your socialist sharing today. I'm  serious about this. there are categories. we're   gonna do overall look and feel. otherwise known  as world building. we're gonna do casting. yes,   I'm gonna go through every single character.  we're gonna do most loved / most important   scenes. then finally we're going to discuss  the portrayal of Emma, the character. I'm not going to lie, when I first came in to  this film I didn't really warm to it for the   first third of the film. I was expecting it  to be more starkly directed and I struggled   to immerse myself in the world. there was a  little bit of a Brechtian gap between how I   was expecting to feel immersed and how  immersed I actually was. I think that   was intentional it really reminded me of Marie  Antoinette. block colours, weird camera angles,   a general staggered awkwardness to the way it  was cut, which I like. it's just not the... I was warned from the trailer that it would be  like that. but it was also just such a contrast   to the warmth and the nostalgia and the gentleness  of the 1996 version that it first felt weird to be   immersed in an environment that was associated  with 'Emma'. I'm really attached and just a real   big advocate for the way the 1996 version opens.  it establishes an ethereal voice which I think is   the voice of mrs. Weston in it actually. and they  used that narrative voice the whole way through   the film which mimics the satirical narrative  voice of Jane Austen herself. they have this shot   of the globe and it's zooming in to this painted  globe that emma has and there's this line about   'when you live in a small town and you lived in  this era, this was your world. your small town was   your world and everything in it became incredibly  important to you.' and I think that was a really   self-aware way of saying 'look, we know these  people are privileged. we know this is frivolous,   but to these people it is important. let yourself  care about this small town for this hour and a   half. make this town your world.' which for a  modern audience I think is really important and   I love the way it's set up. you don't get that  with the new 'Emma' but you get a different kind   of intimacy. we see the characters in more private  moments. moments that aren't in the book or the   other film where they're just sitting alone in  their houses. sometimes naked. getting dressed.   assembling themselves. reminding us that naked and  alone these people are very similar to us and it's   only when around each other that they are more  performative and seem more distant from us. yes,   Johnny Flynn is naked in this film. please ready  yourself because I was not. but all that being   said, as I got into the 2020 version of 'Emma' I  started to really love it and I started to compare   it to 'The Importance of Being Earnest' film  and the kind of whole tone of 'The Importance   of Being Earnest' and Oscar Wilde. which is a  lot closer really to the way Jane Austen wrote,   particularly towards the end of her life when  she wrote 'Emma'. it's more satirical than   sentimental. this is a comedy of errors and the  sound design as well made things more echoey,   more distant, more stark. in the new version  we also see more of Harriet's digs. Harriet   is the girl that Emma befriends and hopes to  bring up into society even though we don't   know who Harriet's parents are. and she has  just graduated from this school for orphans   where she was left by her anonymous parents  and still has digs there. that's where she   lives. that's where she hangs. while her future  hangs in the balance. Emma meeting her at this   very integral stage of her life and also Emma  lowering herself to entering spaces like that   when she's so elevated in society is not what  happens in the books or in the other films but   it is an interesting choice that a lot of the  scenes that are supposed to be set in Emma's   house are in fact set in the humble lodgings of  Harriet. so overall, surprise win of round one:   I actually think that the 2020 version is better.  not warmer to my heart. not something that I feel   so emotionally close to. but objectively more  close to what I think Jane Austen intended.   and in what it achieves. much more interesting.  ding ding. one point. also I'm not sure about   the symbolism of seeing Harriet's other orphans.  but there was some weird 'Handmaids Tale' imagery   going on that they had to have been aware of. and  I'm not sure what the point of that was. but let   me know in the comments below what you think your  theory is as to why they would have done that. the casting. let's talk about the casting. mr.  knightley. mr. knightley is, let's be clear,   16 years older than Emma in the book. which  is uncomfortable for modern audiences to watch   and also more unbelievable. harder to warm to.  especially when mr. Knightley has a certain amount   of social power over Emma. he's much more friends  with her dad than he is her and there is a lot of   weird daddy issues that can be inferred from the  book where it's like, she won't leave her father   so she marries a friend of her father and then the  father and the father live together and she gets   to stay in her family home. that is objectively,  by modern standards, really weird. and I think   it's good to transpose that a little. so casting  Johnny Flynn... ahhhhh. who I [inaudible]. I genuinely love. and I'm not really somebody who  gets very attached to public figures but I think   he's amazing. he was in 'Lovesick' which should  have been and was called 'Scrotal Recall.' and   for that I recommend it alone. he was in 'Beast'  which he was incredible in. and he's also an   incredible musician. and I think he was a really  interesting choice for this role. Jeremy Northam,   while very slick, presents a very two-dimensional  mr. knightley. however hot he is in this film.   and I feel like Johnny Flynn brought a soft  masculinity to it that is necessary for the   role and that I loved. he is a lot younger in  this, they look the same age. he has a very moral   heartfelt quality to him. but he also brings a  more bumbling, fumbling side to him which i think   is really nice. and especially at the end, makes  a lot more sense. especially when he's stumbling   over his words. he actually dares to cry twice in  this film which is obviously off-book but great.   we spoke before about how I love a man who cries.  and you really feel for him in this. there's also   a really interesting setup of seeing him getting  dressed in the morning. him being assembled into   period clothes. when often it is a trope in  period dramas where you always see the woman   being buttoned up. but you see him naked. don't  be a perv, leena. we live in an equal society,   come on. we see him vulnerable and naked. we see  him being dressed by butler's. and seeing how   uncomfortable period clothes are for men as well  and how he is putting on a front of masculinity   and strength. and I thought that was a really  interesting choice. overall I just loved him   in this. he brought a real kind of English  awkwardness. he made mr. Knightley funny. I   don't know how he did that. he's now my one true  Knightley. the other ones can f**k right off. I   was disappointed in the casting of Harriet. let  me know what you think. Toni Collette plays her   in the 1996 version. and in this it's Mia Goth.  and Mia Goth really plays on her stupidity which   I thought was a shame. in the book and in the  1996 version it's much more clear that Harriet,   while a bit scatty, while a little bit slow  on the uptake, is really Emma's equal in   personality. she has as much personality as  Emma. she can match her in conversation and   it's much more clear why Emma would befriend  her despite the social class disparity. to me   it's much more clear in the original narrative  that they have an intimate friendship. it's only   really at the end of the new film that we see  them physically touching. laughing together.   having any kind of connection. in this new film  Harriet is shown much more as really easy bait.   in this one Harriet is clearly prey for an  Emma with claws. she's not somebody Emma sees,   appreciates and however self-centered-ly wants  to help. I've no opinion on mr. Elton casting.   nor do I want to. I really hate this character.  they're quite an easy character to play and both   mr. Elton's do it justice. so I don't.... points  for all the houses. everybody gets a point.   let's be Dumbledore at the end of every f*****g  Harry Potter book, where everybody gets a prize. Bill Nye is mr. Woodhouse. I'm not even gonna  bother learning the name of the 1996 guy because   god damn it, Bill Nye is now my original mr.  woodhouse. he doesn't get as much screen time in   the 2020 film as he does in the 1996 one. which is  a shame because there's so many funny moments in   the book with mr. Woodhouse and I love him and he  really makes the book for me. they did this really   clever device thing with being obsessed with  draughts and blinds and stuff in the new film.   and I loved that. and I think Bill Nye is such  a clear and crisp actor that he can get across   a very big character in a very small amount of  screen time. so he was a perfect choice. and it's   also really funny because he admits in interviews  that he's never read a Jane Austen book. never   watched a Jane Austen film. but very much enjoyed  wearing the breeches. which I appreciate. oh my   god we're going to very briefly talk about this  because it's such an easy one. okay. mr. Martin is   played by Adam from 'Sex Education'. it's so good  and need I... I don't need to say anything else.   okay so they go and give us Juliet Stevenson for  mrs. Elton in the 1996 version. 'get your lesbian   feet out of my shoes.' and then you go and throw  Tanya Reynolds into the mix. and I'm supposed to   choose?! if there's ever an am dram performance  of Emma, please cast me as mrs. Elton. I think   all would be incredible at it. this is my life  calling. Tanja stands up to this part so well.   she has this incredibly long neck that for some  reason I now see is perfect for the character   of mrs. Elton. she's much more starkly rude than  the 1996 version. and you kind of like... with the   1996 version I love it because literally everybody  knows that's mrs. Elton in the 1996 version. but   I also just love the way Tanya played it and I  think, God... points for everyone. points. I'm   sorry. there are points for everyone here. Frank  Churchill. why are you putting this random hot man   in this character. look we had Ewan McGregor for  Frank Churchill in 1996. it was very hard to top   that. but I felt like they went in a completely  different direction with the 2020 version and I'm   not really sure how I feel about it. in the 1996  version Frank Churchill, who is a bit of a rake,   convinces Emma that he's in love with her. when  he's f*****g not. he's secretly engaged to Jane   Fairfax. but we're supposed to warm to him, we're  supposed to believe that he is an equal companion   of Emma. we're supposed to be excited about them.  and Ian McEwan plays a very cheeky, amiable Frank   Churchill. whereas... who is this guy? Callum  Turner. this guy just reeks. like the way he plays   it he just reeks of STI's. he's like the f**k boy  that you're immediately just like, 'I will attain   some kind of disease or heartbreak from this man.'  he's so clearly a rake in this that it's hard for   us ever to believe that Emma might be with him.  which is such a fun part of the plot to be sucked   into. and you're just not in this film because of  the casting. and I just like.. I'm just like 'no'   to this Frank Churchill. no, no. points for Ewan  McGregor. a cake for him. 4 for you Glenn Cocco. I am.. [police sirens in background]. somebody  is committing a crime again. who was it? crimes   against humanity. the police are coming for  you.. people who cast Frank Churchill. now,   Miss Bates. Miss Bates. okay I love Miranda. I do.  I'm such a fan of it. I was so excited to see that   she was in it and I think it was a really good  casting. however, weird choice, because the whole   comedy and what's so funny about Miss Bates is  that she has a comedy duo with mrs. Bates. who is   mute. she doesn't speak. and Miss Bates translates  to her very loudly. and what's so funny about   what's written about them is that they always  come as a pair but one of them doesn't talk.   you get the idea that she kind of disapproves of  Miss Bates. and Miss Bates won't stop talking.   and that's what's funny. in this there is a  complete absence of mrs. Bates. where is she?   she's occasionally there. there's nothing funny  about their relationship and actually I was kind   of disappointed because Miranda plays this quite  straight. Miranda Hart plays this as a serious   part and occasionally will add humour. she really  just uses her blank face look that she does with   everything. to insert the humour rather than using  pacing and intonation and more script... I don't   know. oh my god, is Ruth Jones in the 1996...? we  need to go back. it looks like she plays the Bates   maid. we're gonna go with Sophie Thompson for  this one. she did such a good job and I'm sorry   Miranda, but the stakes are high here. what can I  say? casting round over. we're now onto most-loved   / important scenes. what did I see what did I  not see? how did we see that? let's find out. There's a scene I really loved in the 1996  version that I didn't... I don't think it's   even in the book. but it's definitely not in  the 2020 film. and I really missed it. and it's   Harriet's most precious treasures bag. all the  things she obsesses over with the men that she's   in love with in how she burns them. and it's  such a sweet.. like summarises her character.   well-rounds and '4d's' her character so well that  I really missed it as a scene. and I'm sad. also   in the new one we don't get the crash of Emma  going into the lake and then Frank Churchill   rescuing her which is weird. why omit that?  that was such a great visual scene. could you   not afford a pond? and also they slightly mess  up the storyline. maybe to make it more obvious   for audiences that haven't seen or read another  version of 'Emma'? but also it's such an easy   thing and makes it so much better. in the new one  Harriet realises that emma is also in love with   mr. Knightley before it all kicks off. they have  a back and forward about it. she's like, 'hang on,   you also like mr. Knightley?' now in the book  what's magical about that and in the 1996 film   is that Harriet is so innocent that she doesn't  realise why it would be bad that she liked mr.   Knightley or why Emma is so upset. and then you  can't really wait for it to kick off and you don't   know what's gonna happen and it's very exciting.  for that to happen so early on and for it to   not be what really happens and for that to be so  obvious and 'you've got my man when it's my man,   well I love him. no, you love him.' is so.. like  it cheapens it. I think it cheapened the story.   and I don't.. maybe I'm just being a stuck in the  mud grump. but like why would you do that. it's so   much more interesting when she doesn't know. and  then emma has to make a decision later as to how   to tell her and whether to go for Knightley. and  you know? it's the main foil of the book. the main   moment of, 'oh s**t'. but the biggest change and  again more spoiler alerts. the biggest change that   I loved in the 2020 version was the insertion of  a nosebleed at the most pivotal and romantic point   of the film. where in every other adaptation we  have got a kiss and a zoom out on the mountains   and you're all so happy for everybody. in the 2020  version he confesses her love, she goes to kiss   him and she gets a massive f**k off nosebleed. and  it's so good. it's so funny. and it's absurdist.   I like it. it's in the tone of the book. it's  what Jane Austen would have wanted. a nosebleed.   genius. it makes it more frantic and awkward  and it shows how panicked emma is about hurting   somebody else. and it shows how preoccupied she  is with what other people think of her and how she   makes other people feel which ultimately I think  is more accurate for Emma that she wouldn't just   jump into something and start kissing somebody  and being like 'it's fine because I'm in love.   who cares about everybody else.' it's a minor  moment of horror that a modern adaptation of any   Jane Austen film requires and I loved it. maybe in  the 2090 version we can have Emma on her period?   just a suggestion. and the other big moment that I  think was done so much better in the 2020 version   was the dance. after mr. Knightley saves Harriet  from all the embarrassment and asks her to dance,   Emma's so impressed with how thoughtful and  caring he is that she effectively asks him   to dance. and then they go 'well we can because  they're not really brother and sister. we're not   related.' not brother and sister at all and  it's sexy. and then they go into this dance   and in the 1996 version it's so.. like it's just  them repetitively holding hands then letting go of   hands and being happy... and it's not really..  it's supposed to be the moment they realise   they're in love with each other. and it's kind  of like not as much in the 1996... [inaudible] I'm so excited. in the 2020 version it's so  hot. it's the hottest dance scene. oh! I feel   a little... can we open a window? it's all about..  you need to watch it. but like the way they touch   each other. and how unspoken it is and the way  they brush up against each other and the sound   design. you can hear them touching each other's  clothes as they dance. it added a rare moment   of sex to an essentially sexless film. and finally  ding ding last round - Emma herself. who will win? You might have noticed in the casting round I left  Emma out. that's because I have many opinions. and   it links to how I generally think the character  of Emma was portrayed in both films. and why I   think the casting was successful or unsuccessful.  and so we have Gwyneth Paltrow in the blue corner.   and in the red corner Anna Taylor Joy. which miss  Woodhouse will win? well it all depends on how you   feel about Emma as a character. what you want  her to be and what Jane Austen wanted her to   be. well I tell you what Jane Austen wanted her to  be. Jane Austen said 'I am going to make a heroine   whom no one but myself will like.' at this point  in her career Jane Austen has already knocked out   'Sense and Sensibility', 'Pride and Prejudice'  and 'Mansfield Park'. she's already here. she's   already famous. she's getting to that point where  she's like 'f**k it. I'm gonna write a b***h   that nobody likes.' and honestly, as a teenager  when people were like 'I am just like Elizabeth   Bennet.' I was like, 'I think I'm kind of more  like Emma.' what I love about Emma is she's   somebody with a default setting of selfishness  that she knows about and is constantly railing   against and trying to become better. I felt the  casting in the 2020 version was a lot meaner. she   played Emma a lot meaner. in the beginning of the  film she was quite two-dimensional with the way   she played it. there were less exhausted *trying  to do the nicest thing* faces. and more like 'ha!   everybody thinks I like them but literally I hate  everyone' kind of looks. and it's not really what   Emma's like in the book. and I thought it kind  of took away from the beginning of the film and   that's why in the first part of the film I felt  a little deflated and a little worried. however.   no actually, not however. let's first go back to  why I feel this way. gwyneth Paltrow in this film   plays Emma less satirically. and I'm not saying  that's good or bad. but she plays her in a more   sentimental way. a way that's really sincere.  there's this scene at the beginning where we   really see sincerely Emma's love of mrs. Weston  and her leaving being the catalyst for her making   friends with Harriet and creating a plotline for  this novel in the first place. we see how much she   really loves her and cares about her and how she  is the center of her world rather than just in the   2020 version she kind of knocks on her door and is  like 'I'll miss you. don't leave me. I don't want   you to leave me because I need you and I don't  want you to get married.' and in the 1996 version   it's more about how much she really genuinely  cares about mrs. Weston. it's not just the way   the actress plays it, it's also the opportunities  in the 1996 version that Emma is given to show her   more compassionate side. in the book and in the  1996 version Emma acknowledges mr. Martin - the   farmer that Harriet is secretly in love with and  is supposedly below Emma. she still acknowledges   him. she still says hi. in the 2020 version she's  really rude. it's really out of her station. out   of her character to not have any manners and  completely ignores him. doesn't look at him.   won't talk to him. completely snubs him rather  than being polite but also being like 'haha I   think you're quite poor.' then in the 1996 version  at least pretending to be interested in what he   said and saying 'hello'. in the 1996 version emma  is at ease around poor people. she's the person,   when they go to help people in poverty, she's the  one who easily tends to the sick. gives them food.   looks after the children. and it's Harriet who's  supposed to be of a lower-class than Emma that   looks awkward and doesn't really know what to do  and doesn't really want to help the poor people.   she's humbled much earlier by Harriet's behaviour  in the 1996 version and says 'now I see I should   be lucky to resemble you in any way' to Harriet.  it's quite early on that she's like 'I think you   might be inherently a better person than me. you  may not have as many manners and graces or as   much money as me but I acknowledge early on in  our friendship that I think you're just like a   purer person than me.' which doesn't happen in the  2020 version at all. they very much sensationalise   the idea of Harriet being a pet that emma keeps  around rather than emma being deeply lonely and   needing company and finding it in this very pure  hearted girl. however, all of that being said...   2020 emma - there's more of a journey that  we go on with her because if she starts off   a b***h and becomes definitely not a b***h it's a  more dramatic change for us. it more effectively   shows us the difference in her personality and  what she's gone through and her character arc.   ultimately the point of Emma's character is, I  think, similar to her other books but in another   way - showing that women need to operate within  their class systems. the restrictions of their   gender to be happy and succeed. for Emma, she  knows that her freedom and the fact that she   doesn't need to marry is afforded to her because  of her wealth and class. she sees that Harriet   doesn't have that. in fact Harriet has nothing.  we don't know who her parents are for most of the   book. and that she could descend into poverty  and ultimately death. Harriet is half a vanity   project for Emma but also partly to raise her out  of a situation that particularly won't benefit   Harriet because she is a woman. and getting her  married off to somebody with wealth is a way of   saving her. she wants to teach her how to hold  a fort so she can get her a roof over her head.   in the end its executed badly and she does.. her  snobbery means that she snubs the one person that   harriet really loves, who is a farmer. but a very  middle-class genteel farmer who can write and wear   top hats and is friends with her love mr.  Knightley. but in the film what is interesting is   that she doesn't only in the end except Harriet's  match to mr. Martin and accepts him round to her   house. she also accepts what is revealed to be  Harriet's dad, who is a tradesman and invites   Harriet's dad around to the house. which is..  I can't emphasise... much more of a shift   than inviting Robert Martin around. and that's  something that doesn't happen in the book or the   1996 version but is an emblem of social progress  and something that I think is really cool to   insert into the 2020 version. and I liked that. so  while I'm not in love with the casting, weirdly I   think I'm gonna let the 2020 film win this round.  and points aside I'm gonna let the 2020 version   win. what I haven't mentioned so far in this  video is that 'Emma', despite being one of the   most famous books by a woman ever and to be about  a female protagonist, has never had an adaptation   of it made, both screen written and directed, by  women. who are by the way fifty f*****g percent of   the population. the director deficit is deafening.  as I mentioned when I talked about mr. Knightley,   I think this film is really shot in the female  gaze. we see a lot more of the men. the softness   of the men. we also see a lot more of a separation  between the men and the women. how Emma is often   sidelined when mr. Knightley and her dad are  talking. generally I think it's shot more true   to form of how Jane Austen might have intended  it. that means I didn't get my warm sentimental   supermodel Emma. I got mean, slightly spoiled  Emma. it means I got a more distancing satirical   setting and overall look to the film. I got a more  brisk and less fluffy adaptation of the novel and   that was down to Autumn de Wilde, the director.  and the screenwriter who was Eleanor Catton who   is of 'Luminaries' fame and won the Man Booker  Prize a while ago. what this film taught me is   that I think the world is ready for a meaner Emma.  she's a truer Emma and I believe by Jane Austen's   standards, a more accurate Emma. so while the  beloved 1996 version will always be close to my   heart and an OTP. the 2020 version wins. it wins  the battle. you can all go home and have a coke   now. and women win the war. not this woman, this  woman is dead. she's very much on the way out. thank you so much for watching. have you  watched Emma yet? what did you think? tell   me in the comments below. I really want to talk  about it more. if you haven't been here before,   consider subscribing for more videos like  this one. and if you want to support these   videos you can join The Gumption Club for  as little as $1 per thing and get lots of   amazing perks. I have been leena norms.  you have been whoever you are behind   the screen. this has been whatever this  is. and until next time, frog snog out!
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