What's the difference between the Triumph Bonneville T120 and the T100?

[Music] hey kids here's the piston fly here hope you're well now I've been extremely lucky in the last few months in that I borrowed quarter fewer trough motorcycles for long periods of time and really got to know them and the box that I've really loved the couple that stick in my mind at the year Bonneville t100 and the year trap from Street scrambler both the 960 pair bikes in turn I just love the way that they looked in terms of their retro looks and the way they're handled and so on they were my favorite bikes a number of people ask me what about the t1 20 year what do you think of that well I'd only ever ridden the t 120 very briefly and that was back in April of last year so I've done an initial review of that bike and you can go and have a look at that that review to see what I thought of it but I'm really pleased to say that now drop have left me this this is another t1 trade and I've got this for a few weeks up and really get to know the bike properly and I can do a proper comparison of this versus the the smaller Bonneville is the 900 cc machines so in this video what I'm going to do is concentrate really on comparing this against the t100 and let you know what my top initial feelings are between the two bikes so stick around stay tuned so of course the obvious difference between this and the smaller box is of course the size of engine this is the 1200 cc twin engine and this is what triumph badged the high torque machine now I go through the specs a little bit later when I do a walk-around compare it directly with the t100 but what I can say is even though I had the T 100 for long term alone hello some time ago about two months ago I can instantly feel that this engine is much more punchy than that one and the other thing that instantly strikes me that's better than the T 100 on this the brakes the the brakes on the T 100 I found somewhat lacking it just had the single disc on there this has the twin disc and it feels absolutely fine on breaking one of the reasons why I love the year T 100 was it's a lightweight Chuck ability or at least I thought so compared to the T 120 that as I say at that point not only ridden for an hour well I have to say having now ridden this bike for about the same amount of time but now with you know a better understanding what the t100 is like I have to say you don't really notice the extra weight of this it's only something like 15 kilograms different which I suppose is a fair amount of weight but once you're on the move you really don't notice it it'll be interesting to see once I've had this for a while and do my long-term review what it's like to actually shift it around on the driveway or at car parks and so on and see if that makes a difference but at the moment I'm from a riding point of view I can't feel that it weighs any different to the t100 to be honest now Sauer will resist doing a complete review on this bike at this time because I had done that initial impressions review already didn't go back and look at that but just as a recap what I can say is this bike is very comfortable the clutch is supremely like the gearbox is very nice to use the mirrors work well the seat is nice and padded handlebars are in a nice position that's just a really easy bike to ride now it's very low as well you can get your feet flat flat on the floor no problem at all it's completely unintimidating it's a lovely bike I love the fact it's got built-in heated grips everything about it is nice but I guess the big question is is it worth the additional money over the t100 well I'm gonna go and pull in at the pub up here show you around the bike and as I'm talking about the specs on this one I'll talk about how they compare to the t100 and what extra you get for your money on this bike right sticker over here so I have to say yeah she doesn't feel particularly weighty maneuvering it around on this car park or the law that door you know very very similar to the year T 100 there we go right here she's then the Trump Bonneville t100 the 1200 cc version of the retro bike lovely color scheme this looks great in the sunshine as well so let me get my other camera out and I'll talk you through the specs okay here we go then so the primary differences are say between this the T 120 the T 100 is of course the engine this being the 1200 CE CE the t100 having the 900 cc engine they're both badged as high torque in terms of the numbers this the T 120 puts out 80 PS around about 80 horsepower whereas the t100 puts out 55 so this one's 25 horsepower or thereabouts more powerful than the T 100 and I have to say you do notice the difference quite immediately this one has considered a more shove not the t100 doesn't have enough shove but this has loads when you want to overtake you can really worn this thing up and the thing absolutely flies doesn't run out of puff whereas the t100 feels like once you get to sort of illegal speeds there's not much more to give whereas whereas this feels like it will just keep going on and on in terms of torque this says 105 Newton metres the t100 has 80 Newton metres and this one has that peak at 3100 rpm T 103 2 3 0 so this is a little bit more of a lazy engine as well just sort of low ups along which is quite nice makes it very relaxed cruising the other big differences have already mentioned is the brakes this one has these twin discs up front and it means that the thing really does stop absolutely fine I'll just prove that there's another disc on that side there again whereas the t100 just has a single disc and didn't feel that good from a breaking point here this was fine seat height the t100 790 millimeters this one 7 8 v so it's actually 5 mil lower which is interesting and I can get my feet absolutely flat square on the ground it gets split makes it very confidence-inspiring when you're on this and one of the interesting things is I thought that the T 100 was the smaller bike but actually when you look at the length of the machine let me see if I'm far more figures the wall base on this is 14 45 millimetres the wheelbase on the T 100 is 1450 so it's 5 mil shorter this one I mean again 5 mil what difference does it make but technically it's actually not quite as long as the T 100 so I'm going to stop calling the t100 the small bike because it's not it's if anything it's slightly bigger physically whiteboys the t120 224 kilograms which is 11 kilograms more than the T 100 that comes in at 2 1 3 dry wear as I say when you when you're on the move you don't really notice that at all it just it just feels absolutely fine thank you looks brilliant in this red color scheme as well one of the similarities is the tank is got the same tank that both have fourteen point five liter tank capacity and they do these beautiful paint schemes they both have the same sorts of plate schemes with these beautiful hand-painted coach lines you look closely you can actually see this of a paintbrush lines in there it looks really good love those little touches the t120 has two riding mode basically rain and road which t100 has no riding modes and the price of this one is ten thousand one hundred pounds on the road and the t100 8600 so this is 1,500 quid more so you think your new 1500 could worth it just for the extra power well you get some extra bits and pieces as well this comes as standard with heated grips and they've got those sort of integrated arrangement here I can focus on that okay little button there that makes it look very neat and I think I think he grips should be a legal requirement on bikes so you get that as well over and above this also has a six-speed gearbox whereas the t100 only is the five-speed although the sixth gear is pretty much feels like an overdrive you know I mean and also is standard this comes with the centre stand which you don't get on the t100 it's just tapped under there really useful for maintenance on the chain and stuff like that so I think you probably get it as an option on the t1 I really get it a standard here so if you're extra 1500 quid to get an extra power and heat you grips you get in the centre stand you're getting the riding modes and you're getting better brake so actually all that locked together for 1500 quid I think it's probably worth it you know I'll film myself suddenly saying that actually the t1 20 is probably my favourite bike but let me live with it for a bit longer and learn some of the quirks before I absolutely make that and make that assessment okay that's enough looking at the bike let's jump back on around a little bit more love the twin dolls on this she sounds fantastic as well now although I've described it as a sort of a lazy engine cruiser certainly it encourages you to write it that way which i think is a great thing entry but actually the thing goes like stink if you want to when you can get 70 miles an hour and second no problem no I'm proposing that you do that but it really does come up with some shove when you need him and it's all well again in the you know in the real world sort of speeds it's no good at in my mind having power bands a hundred and thirty hours now ain't never going to access them but this thing from naught to seventy just pulls like a train I'm really looking forward to getting to know this bike better because already having only been ridden riding it again for a couple of hours I'm I'm really liking it the the comfort the riding position is lovely in the seat is lovely mirrors work well I love this - the twin dolls really do it for me one of the things that the Street scrambler didn't have was the single dial whereas the t100 has the double which I just think looked great and I think that's er I know it's a ridiculous reason but it's one of the things that draws me towards this bargain the t100 because when you're on the bike you're you looking at these things all the time and these things are just a thing of beauty of course it would be interesting to see what the longevity is like of the chrome-plated parts on the bike and also the aluminium brushed aluminium finished engine cases and so on I've heard a few stories about those corroding so we'll say over the fullness of time all those stand up but you can get chrome plated engine covers and stuff which again I might be tempted to do if I was going for the t1 20 in going for the chrome look he might as well have as much chrome as possible just looks a beautiful bark I think a white van excellent just get going for me that's one of the things that this bike is good for you if you decide you just need to quickly squirt by somebody you can do it and there's plenty of power to do so whereas I did find on the street scrambler and on the t100 you do have to you know plan it a bit and make sure you've got a massive gap where's this you can just squirt in and out of little gaps go easily it's just notice I had the hazard lights on donut hat on Lebanon for but death that does allow me to point out that another thing is has these hazard lights on this little switch here and the bottom here with the Ehrmann is for the modes changing that's about it you've got the information button as usual and the he grips I love for our integrated into the grips and it's just such a great thing to have on box I think all watch it out that as I said the chance to overtake me fall 2:30 the other thing I've noticed about this bike that is slightly different to the t100 and the streets cranber-- is actually the way you have to master it around the corners a bit more I don't know if the geometry has changed much I assume it must be certainly I mentioned the wheelbase is a bit narrow on this implies that the rake and trowel settings are somewhat different but that has the effect of this needing more muscling around the corners and feeling actually much more stable it feels like it wants to go in a straight line most of the time and to get it to go in a corner you really have to count this dear no I actually quite like that feeling I know it's not for everybody but if you're going to be taking the bike on longer IDEs and I think that sort of feeling of stability is actually a nice thing for touring so possibly if if you're in the market for a bike that's a bit better for longer journeys and the t120 certainly with this extra power would be nice but also the handling I think it's just a bit more stable a bit more confidence inspiring for longer journeys I think if that makes sense not sure it does but I actually quite like a bike that feels stable and this feels very stable so that's pretty much it for my year first comparison of the t120 against the t100 fo i hope you found that of some use now as I say I've got this bike for a few weeks I've been very lucky in that transfer Flinders bike to me so I'm gonna get to ride the bike a lot over the few weeks and really get to understand it and I'll be doing some more videos of course on the bike certainly one I've learnt what some of the foils off there's no bikes perfect are they now I'm sure I'll be able to find something about this bike that I don't like but at the moment I have to say I'm loving it ok I hope that's been a real trustee and I look forward to picked you next time until then this has been I miss them fly cheerio you

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Length: 12min 56sec (776 seconds)

Published: Wed Jul 12 2017