What was the best loadout in Destiny history?

now that we're coming up on the final shape and the end of this era of the game I think it's a good time to look back and reflect on some of the more notable events from the past 10 years one such topic came up on Reddit recently which was relayed to me by a couple of viewers and by a couple of viewers I mean myself and it's a classic question that's been asked many times throughout the years but one that I've never actually discussed on the channel and that is what was the strongest weapon Loadout in the history of the game while there are arguments to be made for many loadouts I'm sure two tend to stand Above the Rest whenever this question is asked fatebringer black hammer and Galler horn from Destiny 1 and Mountaintop recluse and Anarchy from Destiny 2 if these are not the best loadouts that the game has ever seen then they're certainly near the top but these two pretty much come up every single time but that begs the question which of the two was better in their respective eras let's take a look at Destiny 1 first fatebringer black hammer and Galler horn fatebringer back then is more or less the fatebringer that you know today it had Firefly for the crazy explosions it had Outlaw for the fast reloads but it also dealt Arc damage now raid weapons were Elemental Primary Weapons which today are completely normal but back then were massive game changers because of endgame modifiers specifically burn or surge based modifiers they weren't the 25% buff that we know today no no back in Destiny 1 these damage boosts were several 100% which meant that if you had an elemental primary weapon you could trivialize endgame content that had these modifiers however these modifiers also affected incoming damage so being able to just instagib every enemy was not only good but it also stopped you from being killed faster than you can be killed in current day Grandmaster content these weapons were so good that they were left behind in the transition from year 1 to year 2 and when they did come back in year three during the April update they were made into Exotics so that they could not be combined into a Loadout with another exotic black hammer was from cot's end a legendary sniper rifle that you probably know as the Exotic Whisper of the worm today black hammer in its original form could go infinite white nail procs would restore three shots to the magazine from thin air it wasn't just from Reserves at least when it first launched this in combination with Icebreaker a sniper that could slowly regenerate ammo for free introduced a meta in endgame content where you could simply stand so far away from enemies that they would not be able to hit you while scoring infinite amounts of damage it also had Mulligan to bail you out of missed shots on occasion black hammer was eventually retired and re-released as black spindle as a part of a secret exotic mission on the moon but with white nail pulling ammo from reserves not from thin air you might have noticed that I said exotic as well it was turned into an exotic much like its iteration in Destiny 2 as Whisper of the worm although Whisper of the worm also went through a couple of iterations before landing in its current form Galah horn pretty much needs no introduction as it was a behemoth well before it ever made its way to Destiny 2 initially written off when first sold by Zur in week two of the franchise for being an exotic heavy like why am I using an exotic heavy I'm barely using it the community very quickly realized over the first couple of months of the game that ghorn did insane amounts of damage cooking pretty much every boss in the game if it was appropriate to use a rocket against them again when combined with solar damage modifiers in endgame content this could very quickly dispose of of anything in its path Destiny 1 was considerably slower paced than the insanity that we know today at least in PVE world but it also had a lot of these crazy high percentage modifiers that allowed some of these weapons to do absolutely crazy things when we disregard the modifiers we're still left with three weapons that eventually all became Exotics within Destiny 1 itself or already were Exotics in the case of Gorn this is one of the main arguments for the fact that this load out is the strongest load out that we have ever had in PVE while none of these weapons did absolutely insane unheard of things each weapon itself was just really strong and really good at what they did for a wide range of PVE activities for PVP purposes though this setup is nothing that special at all and that'll be potentially important later Destiny 2 has had had many strong loadouts I actually think that Quicksilver storm forbearance and commemoration is one of the strongest most consistent that we've had in recent memory I certainly think it deserves a top slot across the entire franchise but Mountaintop recluse and Anarchy rre havoc on the game in a way that we have never seen before and we will probably never see again there may be some recency bias in this analysis just as a heads up but it was really that good Mountaintop and recluse were both from the same drop system hitting 2100 points in competitive PVP during seasons 5 and six respectively they were meant to be rewards for highlevel players achieving a somewhat high rank although many would argue that 2100 when 5500 is the highest isn't exactly the Pinnacle of PVP gameplay while Mountaintop took a little bit longer to catch on reuse was an immediate PVP and PVE Powerhouse with Mountaintop eventually to follow as an overwhelmingly dominant Choice recluse was the ultimate in weapon technology because of Master at Arms its main perk this perk could be activated by getting a kill with any weapon and it could refresh itself it sounds strong until you learn that the damage boost was 50% Which is higher than pretty much every other damage buff that we've ever seen in the game Feeding Frenzy isn't the strongest perk in the world but considering the rate at which you could kill things it was likely stacked very high at all times this made it the best primary weapon in the game by considerable margins in most if not all pieces of content not only that but it was a PVP Beast as well being a stronger kill clip perk that can activate on any weapon kill Mountaintop was also both a dominant PVP and PVE choice because it was a grenade launcher that could shoot grenades in a straight line removing any need to account for the Arc of a grenade launcher shot this allowed for much more aggressive use in a time where Special ammo wasn't nearly as limited as it is today at least in PvP but in PVE it also worked for nearly every situation its regular damage on bigger targets was really strong it was easy to use because of the lack of Arc and it could be Auto reloaded through other effects like lunafaction boots or the Titan rally bear barricade this weapon was insanely powerful during the auto reload PVE meta in combination with the final weapon in this Loadout Anarchy took a little while to catch on but once we saw its power we never looked back Anarchy had so much total ammo and dealt so much damage over time that when combined with the autoloaded Mountaintop not only dealt crazy amounts of damage it took very little skill to actually use this load out we've seen this happen in Destiny at least a couple of times where the best strategy is also one of the easiest to use and this was probably the most brain dead of the strategies requiring very little work against bosses that tended to not really threaten the player during a damage phase in raid content Anarchy was efficient but also had huge reserves so if you wanted to be inefficient you could be and more or less allowed you to be in two places at once only when Bungie nerfed the damage and reserves did this weapon come back to reality but it took a while for that to happen arguments could be made for Mountaintop and recluse in addition to not forgotten a dominant PVP weapon acquired by hitting 5500 in the ranking system as being the catalysts for why Bungie was going to Sunset weapons in Destiny 2 these weapons were so powerful that if left unchecked would simply be the only options going forward unless Bungie made something even stronger than these two weapons which would be incredibly unhealthy for the game Bungie eventually ditched the sunset concept but still ended up retiring weapons that came out before season of the Sera AKA season 10 which included Mountaintop and recluse while the destiny 1 Loadout did eventually become the equivalent of a three exotic weapon Loadout in one you could also argue that this Destiny 2 Loadout was of similar quality it might as well have been three exotic weapons Mountaintop and recluse could both absolutely Ely be considered exotic tier were they ever to return in the game in a nons sunset State I think it could be argued that a lot of Mountaintop and Anarchy strength as a raid DPS strategy relied on external factors like Auto reload effects whereas the destiny 1 Loadout did not rely on those same factors although both had access to damage Buffs like ward of Dawn and in Destiny 2's case mostly well of Radiance however even in non- raid settings this Destiny 2 Loadout was still absolutely dominant as was Destiny 1's best load out does something like that matter in a ranking Destiny 1 didn't have the same craziness as Destiny 2 does but should that be held against Destiny 2 we were just using what was available in the game at the time things did eventually get so bad though that part of a video I made a few years ago discussed the auto reload 1 phasing raid bosses meta that had come to pass which made almost every aspect of the PVE World a complete stomp if you had these things granted two weapons from the destiny 2 Loadout came from competitive PVP and the other was a raid exotic so getting these things wasn't exactly the same as getting a world drop and getting lucky but Destiny 1's load out also consisted of two raid weapons so arguably as tough to get for some people for the people who did have them though it trivialized the game in a way that is still probably more trivialized than the game is today another Point going to Destiny 2's load out potentially is two of the three weapons here were also busted PVP weapons for their duration whereas the destiny 1 Loadout wasn't that special in PvP sure fatebringer was a good hand Cannon but it wasn't the force that recluse nor Mountaintop were it just depends on if you're including PVP as a factor in this competition because if you are I think the win absolutely has to go to Destiny 2 but if you're not then maybe things are a little more even personally I'm going with Destiny 2's Mountaintop recluse and Anarchy setup this meta lasted longer than Destiny 1's setup as fatebringer and black hammer were both retired for taken King and came back in exotic forms down the road Destiny 2's Loadout was part of the Catalyst of the auto reload PVE meta getting absolutely nuked of which it never returned recluse remains my top used weapon in terms of of total kills with only my go figure pulse rifle from The Forsaken era even getting close also these weapons were busted recluse in particular we've never seen a perk as strong or as easy to use in the game and we probably never will again and the same goes for mountain top white nail on black hammer is a great perk you still needed to hit some shots to make it work though and fatebringer itself was really never a super busted weapon in its own right yeah I'm I'm going with Destiny 2's Loadout again some recency bias might be showing but I think the destiny 2 Loadout has too many points in its favor to not be considered the most dominant Loadout the game has ever seen if you think I'm wrong you're I mean vote in the comments thank you very much for watching I'll see you next time

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Length: 12min 50sec (770 seconds)

Published: Tue Feb 27 2024