What It's Like to Interrogate a Hollywood Celebrity

so again um do you know why you're here in today's video we're going to see how when someone believes they will be able to easily fool the police they end up telling unbelievable stories these stories are so poorly thought out that sometimes they even have difficulty keeping track of the details on july 12 2020 a 9-1-1 call was made by candace jim dar saying that she had just run away from her husband after he had beaten her responders found her with various wounds all over her body and jim dar said that at one point she had lost consciousness when asked who had injured her she said it was her husband actor brashear gray police were able to locate gray the next day and bring him in for questioning yes so candace is my best friend she lives with me she goes through things you know some mental issues right away gray tries to set up an altered reality jim dar isn't just a friend she is his wife while some married couples choose not to use such terms jim dar very specifically refers to him as her husband so this is a little odd the second point of interest is that he is trying to establish that she is mentally ill by doing this he's hoping to invalidate anything she might say since it is a favorite tactic of abusers it only makes him more suspicious when coupled with her physical injuries emotional issues and i look over sometimes i i'd say she can stay in the house sometimes she goes to her front lower house that she stays in phoenix she's been staying with me for a while she tried to commit suicide twice and we have an open relationship as well so you know i allow her to have like a boyfriend because i'm really busy so mark the guy that she allowed her to talk to because she allows me to talk to other girls the open relationship is also a lie evidence was found on his phone that he was seeing other women which jimdar had confronted him with causing their fight in an open relationship she would have known about the other women and it wouldn't have been an issue um you know i guess they got into an argument or whatever i was at my friend's house playing football and then i get a call that is cops outside of my house and i'm like oh my this is not gonna work this this open relationship can't work then it's a couple days prior she was trying to kill herself you know you know a girl texts my phone and she's like i thought you wasn't going to text me with girls and blah blah blah and i videotaped her she had sharp scissors and she was about to kill herself and she had about two episodes this week and i think you know the first time she had the scissors i had to grab the scissors from her so she you know she had a bruise on her leg that's all that you know from the situation when i took the scissors that's all she had was a bruise she might have bit her lip her lip was busted and that was it so she had injuries for about she had new old injuries for about like two to three days here we go sir so today she's been on the mark and i've been with my friends i don't know what they got into when i got back i'm trying to i don't need to i don't know but i'm trying i'm trying to understand because um [Music] before you gave him a different bottle yeah you didn't open this okay i'm trying to understand the big picture here and like i said i don't know who all are involved you know but you're mentioning some other folks you're mentioning mark yeah so let me see if i understand this yeah um what's what's what's the young lady's name candace so that c again d i see so let me see if i and just to bring my partner up to speed um so you're saying candace is your friend best friend your best friend um are you married yeah no no in a way unlawfully married like we didn't go down to to we didn't go down the house we just got legally married in miami so you're saying you're married illegally man yeah you're legally married say it's your wife yeah okay like marriage well i can't say that you know you're like that's my girl right yeah but you have a marriage certificate with her uh i don't have it when pressed gray admits that she is her wife but he still prefers to call her things like my girl doing so makes the relationship seem less serious and probably makes it easier for him to justify cheating on her you got one at some point yeah so legally you're not married maybe not okay but it doesn't matter i'm just okay gotcha yeah and we're just trying to understand the picture yeah you know so um but you mentioned that you both have an open relationship explain that you have an open relationship she allows me to talk to other girls you know it's girls that we want to talk to me she said you know you can talk to them and i say okay you meet somebody if i trust him and i meet him you can talk to him she's been talking to this guy named mark and i don't know what happened tonight but i know a couple days prior she had a bruise on her leg she bit her lip because she was trying to kill herself because i videotaped her on my phone my phones did but one of you guys got it i uh you know i wanted to show you that and then after that uh tonight was just i got calls from my friends cops outside your house i thought about not coming to the house i was like is my house why you know so just i just showed up and try to tell them what went on so your hair's already go through yeah okay so you um so you're saying mark was at the house yes okay mark live in that area i'm not sure so she would know where mark lives is that right she she would she would know she would be able to tell us who more which is what would she i don't know why okay i don't know why i'm here so i'm saying like what was she saying what did she say to you guys well i haven't spoken to her that's how i want to talk to you did she did she go to the hospital and say uh brashear gray my husband i don't think she did that i think she went to the house the information that i have is somewhat limited but i was told that she's your wife this so that's what i'm trying to do because this is what happened it's like this is my t-shirt yeah but that's not my crime you know i think she she i don't want to get her in trouble because i don't want to get her deported she doesn't have a green card and that's my best friend so whatever our relationship is it's my fault why it even happened so that's kind of why you know but what she would say is she needs to get treatment so whoever asked her that question who did that to you she i don't know what she said okay um but that guy doesn't have a phone you know he just shows up you know she hits him up on ig mark seems pretty convenient he's supposedly there around the time of the assault and gray has no idea who he really is or where to find him this sets the tone for gray's whole interview he supposedly has facts and is willing to be forthcoming but when asked about any details he slides away from giving a straight coherent answer instagram he comes over i said this more person smart person have you ever met mark i met him about twice what does he look like brown skin he like mixed mixed with white a little bit black more so like um i've never met you before you have never met me before no no no but one of the things i give credit to individuals who are honest yes sir you know and i'm not trying to judge you in any way but yeah then it's if i had to make judgment of who you are it's gonna be based on my interactions with you okay okay right i haven't eat either so my body my head connected to the body right this is only one head i'm trying to have a baby there's a lot going on into internally so it's just you know i know you're trying to you're trying to eat through it you're sharking through but i'm just letting you know what really happened and uh you know i have i i have a career i'm an artist i have a lot of things to lose to be putting myself in situations like that i would separate myself before we fight we have plenty of arguments you know uh verbal and i talked to her mom on the phone her mom was saying uh you know just talk to the cops i was like well you know george floyd and you know what's going on i don't know if i want to go back to the house because if they put a knee and arrest me and but it wasn't like that right so well that's good her mom's like she loves you whatever she's going through i just need to fix it stop the arguments and that's it but i believe she whatever happened that night with mark she needed to get treatment she didn't want to tell me she didn't want to talk to me about it she just went somewhere and that she's from trinidad so she really don't speak clear english so you really don't understand her sometimes so it's like uh she could say something like huh a hospital okay hospital you take her to the hospital and then she's like uh who did this who did this somebody's screaming at her who did this and you know i don't know what she said to because she doesn't want to get in trouble so she felt like i i could save her just so i wish i could yes i will just so i understood i know i missed some so forgive me no he was here the whole time okay okay um so this thing with mark happened what night to do last night last night but okay and time to understand that you were involved in any incident situation she got into last night no no no she we were all good she cooked let me tell you she cooked uh chicken rice and mashed potatoes i twice two plates of that okay what time was this this is about two o'clock four and didn't brown four she like let's have sex so around one turn four o'clock in the evening evening that's why i got that f1 savannah cat in there but he's still kidding and i don't know what happened okay so i want to make sure i understand you because in your in your mind it's landed it's making sense i i wasn't there so i just want to make sure i'm clear i don't want to misunderstand right so you guys around two or four ate dinner she wanted to have sex who else was at the house with you two just asked two maybe but a friend popped in just to give me some cbd left like right up one of your friends or her friends okay just like he showed up for a second and left yeah what time was this ish right before i left like 4 35 okay and then you left the house you guys had sex you left the house yeah um and you went to a friend's house yeah with on did you walk to a friend's house i walked like to the park with theater the school right there around there okay okay i don't want to disclose this location but that's okay yeah okay and then you were there with your friend did you guys go anywhere did you stay at his house i kind of just passed out at his house and then once like five o'clock my phone was dead we would start working out five o'clock yesterday evening morning five o'clock this morning five o'clock this morning uh my phone was dead and i was just uh what was i doing we started playing football okay start playing catch you know running around and my phone turned on they like cops at y'all's cops at your house what happened what happened who's that from neighbors okay oh my gosh i didn't call anybody you guys i didn't call my mom nobody okay i just handed it on my own and say whatever whatever it is i need to stop okay the relationship like that okay so you left your own you i think he said probably around 4 30 or something from your house where we were that same house okay 4 30 p.m about 4 30 p.m and you left your friend's house and then you said you took your phone because you're getting text messages how many phones do you have i want and she has one but she left that phone i guess okay so you took your phone is that the one that the officer when you walked up to the house you had and that we have you said yeah okay where i had a video of her like this in the living room she got an uh scissors and she's just like this i'm like don't do it it's not that serious we love each other okay she dropped it once i had to tussle with her but okay so i want to make i want to clear here so you understand gray's claimed that he was out playing football with a friend for that long and the text message from a neighbor don't really add up why would someone text him that the police were at his house why wouldn't they assume he was there too and gray can't resist bringing up the supposed precarious state of jibdar's mental health [Music] um we're not here to to say what you did or didn't do our our goal and our only goal is to find out what what happened whether that is not truthful from what you're telling us or truthful from what she's saying or mark or whoever else that's our goal is just to find out what happened right right so we're going to do our best to line this out chronologically like thin this than this than this and see kind of how the night went on but just like you i'm sure you hear something if it doesn't make sense in your head you're going to say if it doesn't make sense in my head it's probably because it doesn't make sense right that's what i'm throwing up in the car because i'm like sure everybody throws up when they don't have clarity about what's going on this is like what the heck okay um yeah and that's all we're that's all we're going to do and we're going to do it with we're going to treat you with respect and everything but we need to make sure everything works out it lines up and makes sense otherwise we can only assume i said something's yeah that something's not making sense and somebody's not telling us the truth right i believe that she's from trinidad so anybody if she's really beating anybody looking at that is like because she's this is the u.s they're gonna be like what the hell what happened to you and she's just like my husband or with my boyfriend she's hurt you know so she's trying to talk and she's trying to communicate so you think she told us that you did all that to her no no okay i don't know how it steered back to me i don't know how because i don't believe that she was sitting at her mom okay i don't believe that but okay all right so as detective hurts thing just telling you that we need to chronologically laid out meaning time wise make sure everything that makes sense right and when her mom is a she's seen the video she didn't want the cops to know about it because she didn't want her daughter to get sent away because i try to keep that video away i didn't call the cops that happened like a couple days ago i didn't call the cops on it but i didn't want her to go to a place so so let me ask you this um he went to your friend's house what's that friend's name again john john your your friend's house that lives where does that first live in australia next to the school you said australia yeah his name is john oh yeah okay and you were at john's house you guys played football right and then someone called you and told you that police are at your house is that what you said yes okay who called you neighbors texts just like text messages do you have that name say it didn't work no how do you know what was your neighbor next door neighbor i got a number one time for a battery from a golf cart okay and she was saying the cops are outside called her she like a lot of cops outside i think they going through that house and that's what made me like oh my god i got a savannah cat if the savannah can't run out the front door i lost out on 15 gate right so you mentioned that while you're at your friend's house you got this call right yeah but you also told us that he had a scuffle yes a couple priors a couple days prior to that she we she tried to kill herself okay but you said you tell me tell me about that yeah so this she always she always as i said she has like mental issues right with girls texting me we have an open relationship a chick texts me on the phone she might say yes i want to give that b she i might delete it and she still see it somehow if they have an open relationship this interaction doesn't make sense it does however tell us that gray has a history of cheating and it's something that has caused fighting in the past and then she starts you know i thought you would stop cheating on me i'm like babe i didn't even respond i just looked at it like i'm a man i'm able i should be able to watch porno i should be able to text a chick and i want to meet up with her i'm a man let me be a man let me grow gracefully so she was just really into it that day her heart tried to grab it she was almost about to stab herself because she's pregnant i'm like no no no so i'm trying to tell somewhere so we both don't get stabbed and when was that that was about what's today's wednesday yeah that was friday okay friday and saturday she did that and you have videos on your phone of that you said or was i have a video of it yeah okay yeah so that was friday how was your guys's weekend it was good i think it was okay you spent the weekend together yeah i said i didn't like every day trying to make sure we got a good connection see you at home saturday i was on saturday okay i was on friday i was on saturday yesterday was sunday i wasn't home sunday after founder because you're at your friend's house and then you showed up what time at this house today today i'm not sure you're not sure my phone died so i just was like let me just what time's enough probably 45 or so i say we've been doing this deal for about since 6 30 7 ish so you want eight your videos in your phone of her trying to hurt herself and you're trying to stop her from yourself okay can we is it okay with you if we look at those videos uh yes i have to show you where it's at i have to show you the video okay yeah sure um and that video was from friday yes you have no new recordings on there i don't have but that's her behavior you you see it and you don't see any bruises on it you see a beautiful girl that don't have any bruises on her that's you know that's her behavior very recent so that's not something for me to like try to get her in a place or anything like that whatever happened with this guy what's his name again mark whatever happened with this guy she just went to the hospital she needed the treatment she don't have any charms she don't have any id she wanted to have a green card how do you know what came over to the house um i had a feeling i had a feeling she said you know she might you know have him come over okay i'm like that so i i want to tell you what what's going to happen on our side what we're going to do because we have to we can listen to everyone talk but we have to confirm for ourselves we have to take steps to make sure that we're getting truthful information yeah right so i videotaped it to make sure you guys anything that's why i videotaped it i was like this is behavior not from a girl that i said i do i need to videotape you what's going on in the world i'm not going to call my mom and i will call my manager let me videotape it myself so i can show y'all her behavior and you'll see exactly in okay video that's fair and i'm not here to call you a liar i i get that yeah some of the things we do we do a lot right we don't this usually takes takes time for us to to do this but one cell phone information okay so we we have your cell phone but one of the things we do is we go through where was this cell phone at this time where did they go from there right because cell phones nowadays you could see where they went yeah right so in that case we should see your phone go from your house to your friend's house pretty much there until whatever time this morning back over to your house right uh sure yeah but this we have two phones the second phone was left in the house well i'm just talking about the phone you had oh the phone i had yeah yeah okay that's uh even if it's dead yeah absolutely but you're also getting text messages this morning from your neighbors so yeah but um that phone just has the video that's fine that's not the phone that's what no i'm just talking about seeing where it is the location oh no yeah that's tracking the location yeah yeah no that phone is like you know it's kind of like a i'll be honest it's a cheap phone so i didn't take that with me to john's house you can hear the concern in his voice when the detectives mentioned tracking the phone's location as well as the hesitant way he speaks as he's rebuilding his story it's not a very good one and it only gets worse from here oh which phone did you take on it i hide this phone under the mailbox like neighborhood so you didn't take it to john's house did you take any phone no how did you get text message from your neighbor while you're dawn's house she texts john listen to me we can have a good conversation maybe there's an explanation listen hold on hold on hold on hold on just listen foreign okay just listen you just said text message are you going to get your brain no no no i know i know i know just listen i know i won't disrespect you either you might have a career where we have a career too you're good at what you do whatever you do and we're also capable all right we're also very capable of doing what we do too okay i'm trying to have a baby and and i i'm gonna treat you with respect also you've given me no reason to disrespect you and i'm not going to yes sir but i i can tell you that the truth will be no it's not the first day we the two of us have been here i'm telling you right now i understand i'm telling you but i'm trying to have a baby sir okay this is i don't i don't think that way okay i don't process things i process my food i'm nice to my wife i guess i don't understand what you want what i mean by that is that i don't live in that regular world space you know what i mean i me and my wife we pray together we don't use a phone we hardly use a phone i hardly talk to him that's that's fine all right all we've asked is is what happened physically physically but you didn't say what phone i use and nothing you saying okay we can use the phone yeah i said the phone that the officer has that you walked up to your house with in your pocket that's not the phone that's not the phone yes sir i have got texas from john john they text me because i don't like anything that's people texting i feel like that's cancerous what are we texting about well i don't want to hear the reasoning what phone did you have at john's house i didn't have a phone you didn't have i left that phone in the neighborhood what phone did you walk back to your house with when we come in our officers contacted didn't walk back with a phone he didn't have a phone with you no so where'd that officer get that phone i gave it to him once i i received it i hide the phone where um i don't know what street that's on but i hide the phone on the street and i bury it because it's like it's energy and i don't one can only hope that gray is setting up some sort of temporary insanity plea the idea that a grown man a financially secure actor routinely buries his spare phone is ludicrous i'm actually trying to escape from using that energy with other females so we're gonna take it to john's house and throw it in a room somewhere we're not gonna get around it i need to be focused on what me and john don't me and john playing football me and john we're working on our hearts we working on our health it's not for me to bring that energy to his house because i can get you know we could get probably get into a you know argument or you know he talking about his girl i'm talking about my girl we just dare to be friends and boys that's all so that's all but i understand what you're saying i respect what you got well and i appreciate that and in a person's mind than any person uh officer anyone an actor uh uh artist i'm down actor i apologize um anybody anybody in the world any reasonable person if something in their heads not making sense it does that doesn't make sense that doesn't line up well you just told me that you just told me this okay there's an explanation yeah things just don't line up i just want to do it it just means don't don't line up man well i just really wanted you to know about our open relationship again i was not there and that's not my business yeah i was not there from about you know from 5 30 we have an open relationship i'm able to talk to other girls she's able to talk to other guys and this guy mark came over and like i said the phone was in the neighborhood that's where it stays um i went to giant house came back uh you know when i came back i didn't come straight no i didn't come straight back home i parlayed on my phone for a little bit and then i came home and then my phone died i parlayed on the phone for a little bit you know to see if she called me or anything of that nature and then that was the phone that i videotaped her so i had to take that back to the house because i said i cannot walk back to this house without no videotape i could have went to phoenix if i was trying to hide from you guys i could have told john to take me to phoenix i had my lawyer why did you bring you the phone with the videotape because it's my home i don't like anything and it's just this is my wife you know i don't like these type of situations i feel like as men if you know there's a problem in your household and you have nothing to hide from then show up or run go to phoenix don't tell nobody in phoenix and send a video happy lord handle it but i felt like you guys will understand me and listen to me but we are listening to that's all the phone was in the neighborhood so that's it with the phone i'm willing to and i i still want to and we're having a good conversation yeah but you're talking in circles man you're talking about things that don't make sense that don't add up what the open relationship no no no i'm okay with that i mean that's your business no i wouldn't tell you that's okay or not okay okay i'm talking about you know you went there well that's one of the things you went to johnson i know but we already you already told me you had your phone there at john's house i asked you if if you took your phone how many phones you had i don't think it's one phone yeah because i'm looking at you and i'm realizing that you're a person just like me you know because after i told you we were gonna find the location of the phone no no no no i'm realizing you're gonna see what i don't know how i'm saying i deal with different type of iqs and stuff like that so when you ask me a question i visualize that i did have a phone in hand to text my neighbor my neighbor takes john we're all in the same community gary's story changes from one minute to the next earlier he specifically said that his neighbor texted him not john his actions screamed the fact that he doesn't want the police to see that particular phone this is understandable judging from the multiple pictures of women that were later found so i did have a phone so when i look at you i see a man when you ask me did you have a phone i didn't get the chance to just breathe i said yes i had a phone but i didn't i should have told you that's that's what i should have did i should have just broke it up but she was asking so many questions back back back to back and i'm just trying to answer them right so what i'm saying to you is okay so let's start over okay i know i i can feel you want to be honest are you a bit nervous at all right now i got asthma you got this muscle okay and i'm thinking trying to process food so unprocessed food as well yeah again we're just trying to clarify the information here do you have a phone number for john no you don't have a phone number for john okay well we can get her from your neighbor right uh we're trying to we're trying to figure out the situation you need to help us verify that you're telling what your neighbor does she has a number on that for joel yeah she does she she does she does she does so if we get that phone you you will be able to get that number for us sure john's number right who does john live with he lives with his parents well what is john he's about are you just 19 19 lives with his parents do you know the address no but estrella around that area okay so if i should show you a map on gps from your house you should be able to tell me exactly what house john lives in no it's dark i don't know i'm just knocked down here see i'm from chicago when he would you walk there and you walk i did i did walk but you know the sun starts setting around like five how many times have you been to john's house this is probably my second time i don't even know this neighborhood like that and when it gets dark it starts to look different as soon as this sun go down it starts looking different to me so you're not able to tell me give me john's number i don't have his number i just met him not only are we expected to believe that he buries his phone like a dog hiding his favorite bone but we're also expected to buy the fact that on the day he is accused of beating his wife he an actor has gone to the house of a person he has only met once or twice to play football he just where did he meet john i met him going to a cbd store leaving out the cbd store um he was like yo you should try this cbd i was like yeah cool he's like yo we playing football at the park at this time if you want to come through i said oh this is cool i like friends like that you know so i met him at the park we walked around this block to his house i don't know where i was at but so you met him you've only been to his house twice wow like twice twice he said right and today was or yesterday was the second time what's john's last name i don't know i don't know i don't know yeah um when was the first time he went to his house how long ago was that maybe like one day like i just met him monday it's like just me a week ago yeah because today is monday yeah like a week ago and today was the second time you went yeah it's been a long time since i've been back over there what was the first experience like when you went to john's house last monday what did you guys do we smoked some cbd we had a beer some of the asu kids came over to play football we played football we worked out um and that was here that was really good you're considering what you trust him i don't trust him he's kind of like he said he was like a fan of what i do i was like you know but do you trust him i don't trust him no you don't trust anybody okay he went to his house and passed out yeah that's dead yeah definitely stop right definitely that's not right definitely i felt comfortable really no no no no you need to stop this what you're doing right no i'm saying um detective talk to you right i first talked to you right and i'm just paying attention to and i'm listening to your argument i'm listening to your comments i'm listening to your information that you're providing to us it's not an argument right every time we try to verify that health is health every time we try to verify what you're trying what you're telling us you have you've been changing the story ever since life you go to qt do you know who's going to be at that qt gas station do you know how many people are going to be at that qt if you go to walmart do you know everybody no i'm asking you a real life question and we're like black people we're black right one we're african-american that's number one so if he's african-american he's positive john is okay so we're african-american let's not forget that so once we go into stores and we go to walmart and we go to target we don't know who's gonna attack us okay we're just being positive civilians okay always that's once you take that mask off and you go you go somewhere baby rest for your daughter you have to you you have to be focused you don't know what your brain is doing all you want to do is just be good at what you do so i'm saying i didn't trust him but i felt that you know his parents are there they gave us food i just passed out i passed out i knew and i knew when i woke up i'm like she's gonna be mad at me she's gonna be extremely mad so after that the cops don't wait wait wait we'll go we'll go with the cops about what you're doing hold on hold on hold on about me i want to make sure i understand your story that's all i'm saying i don't want to tell you so what's the first thing you do when you wake up you know what time it was about when you woke up believe me when you woke up at john's house oh so i will try ah wake up you know what i'm saying we wake up look at john be playing fortnite whatever he playing you like yo you want to go work out yeah i'm like morning what time was it about like around you know five in the morning okay and we had a strela we're playing football until like six or seven and he gets the text he's saying cops at your house but they're they texting me through his phone he's like your neighbors are texting me saying that they're cops at the house i don't know none of the neighbors like that they know i'm in the neighborhood i just don't know them like that and that's kind of what that's all that happened okay so when you woke up you said you were kind of like is she going to be mad yeah and i knew because she's like where was you at last night oh she's gonna be like that song first that's what i'm thinking about i'm like you know what let me just play football getting to goodbye because then i can bring that back home you know we work out you know as men man we work out we sweat we look good we take that back onto our woman it don't matter what we did we just it's good after that the detectives are trying to keep gray on track and get straight answers out of him but you can make out the frustration in their voices they don't believe him and they have to feel insulted by the poorly thought out lies that's that was really it that was really it okay i don't have john a number none of that he'll call me from a black number because i don't have so we're just where it's like i don't allow people to call me i turn it off where'd you go where did you meet him i just called forward i don't allow people to call got it where'd you meet john cbd store where's that ish cbd stores right there near walmart is like near happy cats and vape tell me about the first time you met john i walked out the store he was walking in he's like yo bro he looked at me he's seen health he's seen happiness he was like yo man what's up he's like yo you should try this it's like you a football player son he's like yeah you know i think i had candace in the car and um uh he was like you know what you should come work out with us that was it and then where what happened that day when you first met him uh nothing really and then i you know so you met him at the cbd store and then you guys parted away so he parted ways and we i i linked up with him on monday i gave him my number um he gave me your number yeah he called me from a black number he called you from a block number okay yeah yeah okay and what do you say he said yo we gotta go play football you gotta go do this right let's do that all right cool it's all right cool i said let me eat some food first let me put some food in my stomach let my head process there's only one that's on one head it's only gonna process muscles and arms and legs and that was on huh that was on monday no that was uh about that weekend i met him that weekend okay we linked up monday okay and then what phone did he call he called from the phone did he call from so he called from that phone phone that i buried so i buried the phone that we have now yes sir okay so i leave that phone in the area i meet him at australia i see him we start playing okay that's it okay i come back you know it's a rhythm you know and then you know i look at the phone i partly with the phone the phone dies i'm like damn i'm gonna show them the video they ain't gonna they ain't gonna take this well you know all right i guess you guys can charge it and i'll show you so it's still dead it's dead once you let me charge it i can show you the video i can show you i called her mom and said do you want me to call the cops this is supposed to be a wife i say i do too she said no they'll put it on tmz i don't have any problem believing you about this video man but we're not talking about the video we're talking about last night yes so you keep going back to this video i believe you have a video oh are you saying you say your actions yeah i'm asking my brain about actions sure you don't trust the actions of what i've been doing that's what you asking me and i'm saying to you these are the places i've been okay that's fair i appreciate it sir sorry when did you call her mom uh that weekend yeah i mean like with that friday okay and i told her you know it's getting a little crazy but we can work on it and you know first thing first thing my manager said yes last thing we need is the cops coming to the house and maybe putting you in the rest and stuff like that so when she do things like that it just makes me be a better man to her so we have good days we've been having amazing amazing days together and this guy that i allow her to talk to maybe should not allowed it you know so i should just i should have just been like babe i don't really have the full energy i don't have because she has she takes a lot of energy she's beautiful she's you know she's short she takes a lot of energy to just to function i should have one of the things i need to do is i need to speak to this john person right so that's why i'm really trying to um speak to this job person just to help you verify your own story does that make sense it's going to be hard how so because i don't know him like that it's like meeting the girl at a club it's worth a shot though right i mean it's a pretty pretty pretty big deal you're getting the kids like that but bro i ain't been accused she never said nothing that i i guarantee you she didn't say that she did she didn't say brashear did that she did not see that the cops took the firefighters took her to the hospital and what do you mean how do you know that because i know of course i know i know the law the firefighters took her to the hospital she said her husband somebody called somebody used that phone and called or something and yeah i don't know whatever phone that was mark probably was still at the house or something like that he used because the phones are connected to each other these are two phones connected to each other but different phone numbers so who knows what mark was doing in that house you know what i'm saying and after that boom i don't i don't think she's she went to the hospital said this i think she went to the hospital and said that uh unless she told her detective the statements i don't think that but you know i'm telling you i mean she's not trying to convince you i'm not telling you i allow her to live with me it's the only gas station close to goodyear last night you were there about tennis oh yes yes okay yes sir so you so you left john's house and went to the qt with one vehicle um the vehicle the rental the hemi rental okay that that one that was in the driveway while we were there okay okay yes sir who was with you um no one no one okay so initially say that's another part of the story i didn't hear about so initially you went to john's house last night at 4 30 or 5 or something like that you walked there you drove there i drove you drove there yes sir and you stayed there until you came back this morning yes sir but your vehicle was in the driveway before you got home yes how to get there so you asking me how did the vehicle so i left the vehicle there i didn't go in the house i didn't want to you know wake her up i went back to john's house okay instead of why didn't you just drive it back to john's house because it's it's you know it's good to wake up take a walk force it force yourself to challenge yourself to grow there's nothing wrong with that the questioning has become a verbal tennis match the detectives will send over a question that should have a straightforward answer and gray sends it back with a bizarre spin but each time he does the detectives are able to counter the question that points out the holes in grey's story it's not the wrong way what time did you did you drive it back to the house he said uh i got gas and probably drove it back to the house like right after i got gas so probably 10 20 30 okay okay but you weren't with her when you did that when you went out tonight was in the car no i had the music blasting i got in the car got my got got my stuff got the gas parked the car that was it until you got gas you said yes sir okay um do you remember what pump the best pump do i remember what pump um gas pump could have been but i used the car so i didn't have to go into the cash register and say fun five it was you know this has been the first day with a lot of kids at this gas station so yeah yeah it was busy so it just threw me off i'll just get the gas and that was it hopped in the car and went back home but then walked the giant house because we saw that vehicle at the gas station right we did okay that's right who else was with you no one i had got in the car and like i said it was nobody i didn't i didn't look back to checker i just got in the car turned the music up didn't do it back to what i didn't look to see if anybody was in the car or nothing like that could there have been could there have been somebody else in the car i don't know when you just you know like i said when you just being you know doing things and just you know you know i don't know i don't know when when your wife can i call it your wife my girl your girlfriend okay candace when candace is in the when she rides in the car with you where does she ride she normally rides right next to me like on the passenger seat okay what was the last time was she in that car last time she was in that car i took her to ross that was on saturday i took her to ross she wanted to she beg me i want to little ross uh i need to get the cat some cat food and i need to get some litter so that's what she did she got the cat food she got the litter and she put it in the backseat who backseat yeah last night did you get you did get gas i did so do you have a credit card payment there last year i did for guests i should once i got you guys charge the phone i should be able to go to my wells fargo account well we can get we can get that with your phone yeah okay so you use the credit card to pay for gas yes i do okay you filled the tank all the way no i normally put like ten dollars fifteen i'm not working okay so i'll be like fifteen dollars in the gas and that should last for a couple days okay okay yeah um so we're very familiar with that qt over there yeah can i ask you a question yeah did you go in the store did you pay at the pump uh man i stocked the car and i went right into the store and then what'd you go in the store for i went in the store to get two burritos um and some backwoods i don't smoke back with what john do uh so i'm back with okay okay yeah how do you never smoke the bad quote he said give him some backwoods i got him some bad food when did he tell you that he told me that he called me black like i said when you know he called you again blocked yeah yeah okay yeah okay yeah um so you went in the store where did you pay for the gas at the pumper in the store at the prom at the pump okay there's a lot of things kids with dirt bikes kids before willis that was like there's a lot of people out there busy it's busy yeah so you brought two transactions there one for the food inside the store yeah one one i walked in this door and then i came back and then i put the gas there woke up on the guys okay what what kind of credit card like visa mastercard is a debit card or credit card it's a temporary card temporary card yeah because mother card was chipped oh gotcha okay so they sent you like a temporary one yes he did okay okay sorry go ahead um let me know if you need another watercolor i'll get you water all right um these days um you have like detective hurting sting was explaining to you technology yeah with phones you know gps yes sir surveillance videos yeah so you should see me you know you know uh i think it's you should definitely that's what i'm telling the truth you should definitely see me get gas and i'll let you talk no that's fine um it's a dialogue so i don't mind you uh interjecting and saying what you need to say yeah um but what if we tell you that we saw someone else get out of the cover on surveillance video and what's happening in this video had a qt i wouldn't i would be like better to be that would be gray is struggling to come up with an answer to this question it's something he should have already considered because all major gas stations have security cameras these days i i say that would be a surprise um i'm going to try and get a copy of that video i don't have it here obviously yes but i'm going to try and get a copy of that video and mr gray one of the things i'm trying to do you know um like i said is put the pieces together together i respect you and everything that you tell me it's my job to verify it help me verify the information that you're providing to me right yeah it's my home i allow her to stay there no hold on wait a second um the information that i want to verify is where you were yesterday you mentioned here at john's house and but still look like them right i need a phone number for john i don't have the phone number i need to know the neighbor who texted john one of the neighbors on the block definitely who did who specifically oh yeah i don't know i don't know all of them they all see me when i moved in they all see me they all know about john john came over to the house you know probably like once you know what i'm saying when was that the first time i met him he came to the house to see the pool one time you know uh one of the neighbors seen him i don't know which house she was at but she was jogging with a daughter well i know you and that was it and how did she get john's number she had his number she knows parents she knows john's parents yeah okay so you know you know what house on the street she lives in no she was just walking she wasn't too far down from my house he was coming out she's like done like yeah you know it's my boy it's my buddy i guess when this when this scene crime scene happened she text john because she knew i was with john she just how did she know that i don't know she's just like there's a lot of cops at for shearer's house i looked at it and i just coming to me because my house i'm thinking okay yeah i love her too have you ever gotten into a physical altercation with candace not in the past never but other than that like i said other than that they um your partner he's not going to say i could actually express it that day um with friday i was trying to get the scissors out of hand so she did her lip it was getting bigger every day and then she had a breeze on her way because i both fell you both fell on that concrete floor you see the floor in the house concrete and just so i just i just pretty much asked if he had ever had any physical altercations but yeah candice so he was just reiterating what you like experience and really friday yeah yeah yeah so yeah you were telling us about the experience and friday with her when it got physical yes uh like i said uh she had a knife in her hand and i was trying to take the knife out of her hand and she kind of bit her lip where her lip was swelling up for a couple days and then she had a she kind of bit her lip how did that happen but people fell because she's like this just like this with the scissors i'm like you better not do it we we cannot be doing this and i won't text no other female i won't put you in a situation again basically and she's like no don't you come near me because i'll cut you but that's not i don't need to be there you know she just said don't come near me i'm like you're not gonna just do this and i'm not gonna be able to save you no so i i even risked my own life of getting killed and it was a tussle because we could have fell and the knife would have went to me but the knife went in this side you know she was trying to struggle with it struggle with it i finally got it out of her hand and that was it that was you saying that was friday that's right let's that was it for someone that has been so vague about his movements gray is able to be amazingly descriptive of that particular altercation not only does his story cast doubt on her mental state but he can also use it to account for any defensive injuries he might have on his body are we able to get a copy of that surveillance video from qut i'm sure you should be um i think we might already have it i'm not sure about that but we might already have it yeah i need to review that um so but i did learn a couple things okay um so that phone you have that we have that that you came home with what's that phone number oh that's what i made and so that's the same phone that called from the gas station last night at 10 something really to to say she was trying to say she she jumped out she was missing or something like that but that's the phone that was buried right that could have been mark calling because like i said when i leave that card here i'll leave that phone there you know and the phone is in the car and the cars the phones you start this but you start the button in the car keys are in there already so he's already open so i don't know where was the phone switching is splitting this on me where was the phone buried um the phone was in the car for a little bit and then i buried it i put it over there and uh where's that near strela yeah so the phone was in the car for a little bit so that's a new that's a new thing too right yeah where was that yeah i've been coming i don't understand the finals in the car when uh when i drove back to qt i left the car and i'm around with the giant house came back right so happened that's it you know that was about the same time that that that phone call i dropped i got gas i dropped the car back home right yeah but what time did you get gas though yeah about 10 minutes it's about the right time yeah yeah so i got gas around 10 dropped the car back off left the phone i forgot that i done left the phone in the car i can't do that she would go through the phone so he got me halfway to john house come back get the phone very phone so around like 10 45-ish is when i bury the phone so basically what you're where you're relying on at this point is the idea that you halfway to john's house which you know drove to john's house you know walking distance to the estrella theater is probably only 20 minutes from now the theater the theater so that's where we're practicing that like around there oh oh oh where the high school is yeah okay okay so about distance i'm halfway walking near oh no i gotta come back i come back around 10-15 minutes later i don't see any lights on i'm thinking she sleep i don't see anything in the house i'm like cool let me hide the phone let me go have fun with john today is a brand new day you know i know one thing's for sure i don't have to run in circles to understand her story i gotta run in circles to understand what you're trying because i'm doing a lot like she's she's just being a girl staying in one place i'm gonna get gas going this place i'm doing this when you went to get gas you went to john's house that's it yeah but i got gas and dropped the car back home that's all i just wanted to go to john play some football i'm trying to wrap my head around the idea that you drove the car back to her house to your house i'm sorry where she was of course dude i couldn't get a copy of this yeah yeah you might have had step oh yeah please walk back to john's house but you buried your phone on the way i left the phone in the car left the phone in the car okay okay okay 15 minutes so i don't know john used it to call to try to put things on me because it's all connected to my phone if who uses it yeah mark mark okay that's okay yeah okay you know because like i said she if whatever happened she she she would say and then at what point did you come back out of the car she's trinidad so she doesn't speak english i get that yeah yeah so at what point did you get the phone out of the car and go bury it about 10 45 so about 10 45 yes so 10 45 until this morning when you walked back and unburied it the phone the tower cell towers and stuff is going to show the phone there yeah but uh i have you know you know little friends and stuff like that i don't know what i'm saying you know like neighborhood kids okay what about them uh they see me burying it before so you think they unburied it as technology advances it gets harder and harder to lie about it is also harder to make people up out of thin air mark and john if they exist should be easy to track down if john could corroborate grey's story you'd think he'd be more than willing to give the detectives the phone number or even a general street address he's always moving around okay and then and then he's always like and then reburied it so that you could get it later yes yeah okay okay yes okay but the kids definitely see me bury it before okay they always see because they was out there too and i did it it's like y'all y'all better not touch this phone but she's just so tender she's so tender head she she bruised easily even we have sex she bruised so i know that she if they got into a fight it don't look cute where does she bruise really obsessed um like if i grab her waist you can see my hand my fingers on my waist okay and she's from trinidad huh yeah i haven't spoken to her myself does she speak good english she does pretty clear she does and we established that the reason she would tell officers that you did this is to slap in the face to say you know stop stop it you know it's time for us to just be us you know no insiders no outsiders and stop what what do you think she tried to tell you start got stuck to cheating i guess gray even refers to seeing other women as cheating reinforcing the fact that he and jim dar do not have an open relationship as he has tried to claim although they don't say anything about it you can be sure that the detectives are picking up on these verbal slips the cheating stop the text and uh stop the uh why don't you just take a relationship let's just talk to you about that because you know she can she can talk to me about anything but she she just wants to be supportive she don't want to this isn't very supportive tell the cops that you did this stuff to her yeah that's not supportive but at the same time she don't have a green card so she she does not want to get deported you know and that's a big thing with her she does not want to get deported and i'm like i'll take the fall you know but at the same time if i take the fall you have to see the video well i don't want you to take the fault for anything you want to do i don't want anyone to do that that's my wife i just don't want her i put myself in a situation as a man i just gotta i don't know what's next with this here's what i can here's what i can tell you i'll i'll say this and i don't know where my partner stands on this okay i won't speak for him i'm just gonna speak for me i don't believe you and that's just me being honest and in a respectful way i'm not not being disrespectful okay okay i i don't believe you it's okay um and we're we're on the same page with that and what we do is it's not i'm trying to figure it out it's not that you never you guys you you're detective you know what i mean it's i'm trying to help you put you know put the story together because this is gonna this is going to line up for us it's going to because we're going to track the phone locations right uh put the phone numbers together remember the phone it doesn't matter um all the phones you know okay but the vehicle locations the surveillance and everything like that okay um because that stuff doesn't lie right it just doesn't lie um and i'm pretty sure there's there's a ring cameras around your house too to help us show you coming and going you know like that neighbors neighbors have ring cameras uh sure so that'll show that'll and obviously i haven't done that yet because it's still early right but that'll help us say okay yep there he is he parked right there you know i mean he drove past all my neighbors but my neighbors on my block see the neighbors like down the street may have them but my neighbors on my block don't do cigarettes like that this is a doorbell a lot of people have them actually they don't it costs like nothing nowadays just doors nobody you see the doorbells is like uh so it's like a harness and they go into the door so my house is the only one like kind of open that's fine yeah we'll we'll see what's there what's not okay um so what i'm telling you is this is gonna this is gonna pan out we don't we don't we don't throw something to the side until it makes sense we don't put a bow on it until it makes sense that's why i want to show you the video okay i'll show you and we'll get to it we'll get there at some point you know a lot of girls go through we'll get there at some point but right now what i'm concerned about is last night's events yes okay maybe her mental issues like i said she was trying to kill herself about two days i'm professional i don't think like that she's going through mental issues so this is that may be true that's why i'm showing you the video because yeah that may be true her her iq is you know what who yes text who i text you know what girl i sing that day you know she don't know if i if i ran into a girl and gave her my number that day when i went to walmart or something like that she always she's just she's insecure because i can get any girl i want type of thing so she's like she don't know what i'm doing i cheated on her before she don't know if i walk away from you guys and i text shortly and say meet me here because i've done it plenty of times and came back home and she never knew about it so she's so you know in that mode too you know i really just want her to get looked at and i want to talk to her about it um when we get home and just we ain't gonna uh you know we don't have you guys coming to the house anymore we should not have you guys coming to the house memories that's just what it is i'm sorry you guys gotta actually like you know what i'm saying you know like put your all in this and oh shoot don't be sorry this is a voluntary job and if i don't like it i can leave but this is what we do right yeah um nobody's forcing me to do anything yeah that's where i'm at with it like she's if she's mentally going it then maybe yeah she jumped in the car and even tell me she was in the car like or she was already in the car you know what i mean it's crazy if she was hiding from him she's in the car i don't know and i'm just going to get some backwoods i'm all happy she's all like you know what i'm saying i'd rather i would i would rather i don't know how you think i can't make you anything we're certainly not here to try i would rather have a discussion i i was hoping i was i would rather have coming here have a discussion with you about what happened and how and and maybe there's an explanation and how you can help me understand um but we're not there we're not we're just we're just not getting probably the most positive um motivating person i motivate everybody i meet yeah you seem like a motivated person yeah it's the chance to hear themselves that's the talent i have that's why people hire me because i give them i i help that at the end of the day yes sir as the detective is explaining to you it will add up for us right so let's think forward a little bit okay right once we have all the information that we're currently working on right now and it shows everything that you're telling us is not true think about that for a second without even responding just think about that for a second so you're saying that i did so if you go and look at the video at qt and you don't see me get out the car right that's not true i told you i went to qt right right but there's other stuff okay so if you check the phone and you see that the phone was in one location um well the neighborhood location the whole time while i'm at john's house that's not true because i said that was true gray doesn't seem to understand that just because his story is sprinkled with bits of truth doesn't make the whole thing true saying look i told the truth about this one thing isn't going to make the detective suddenly stop asking questions and decide to let you go his separation from basic reality is a little concerning can you help us find john like i said bro it's like me meeting you today i don't know where you live we got a good vibe like i feel like we could be if i met you out in person i'd be like yo what's up bro absolutely yes you told me yeah you met john and she's pregnant that's one another hold on you told me you met john you and john had a connection john went to your house you went to john's house yes more than once twice we felt so comfortable with john with that connection you passed out slept at his house yeah cbd good food catch the itis you know how we get we eat food we get sleepy we pass out you know we got in the pool then just be relaxed the body feel good you feel good you didn't feel like this yesterday but you can't tell me how to get in touch with john i don't know him like that he has my number but the neighbor down the street knows him well enough and knows him no john the neighbor in the neighborhood right yes you said down the air street right i was walking with her daughter yes she's down she's one that neighbor knows john well enough yes sir and knows you well enough to know that both you and john are friends so she texts john that police were at your house and john related information to you and you were at john's house this morning but you can't you can't tell me with that relationship and that history and that tight circle that you have there's no way you could tell me how to make contact with john no way whatsoever no because life ain't like life life is unexpected you know it's the only way to contact that lady who you said text i don't know i if i seen her i'll know her if i seen him i would know like oh that's the lady that said what's up to john that day they only seen me outside probably like two three four times so every time i come outside there's nobody outside it's too hot so when i'm outside i'm john she's just running just luckily we ran into each other that's all john is about my height he's loud so yes you're saying that did you go in into anything that canda said did you do you have any injuries on your scratches or anything like that i have football injuries do you mind if i take hello do you mind standing up and showing me yeah ah okay is that from football yeah ah so uh my knee man right here man where's that from uh trying to get me down uh and this was with who would john john and some asu guys you know i compete with the football players where do you get that from i'm wide receiver this one right here i'm wide receiver so get off me you know they try to push on you the dude got long nails like yeah get off me so where else swirls do you have any injuries on your shirt on your chest area where you get them on your right side oh right when i got tackled so all of that is from you don't need to you can sit down so all of that is your own football yes sir those injuries are not consistent with you know scratches from playing football no i mean that stand up again because i've had those injuries before no can i stand up similar injuries you know how i obtained some of those injuries had a very similar how getting over a wall no hell no well i'll do that too yeah you're doing that yeah what was the last time you're over a wall i do that all the time when was the last time you were over a wall those scratches are fresh like they have uh today whereas i always do it especially at night because okay it's like gymnastics okay when was the last time you were over a wall those scratches look very fresh uh maybe last night to come back to come back to the house last night yes sir what time um not sure not sure at all so but yes i do it like so you came back he didn't go through the front door went over the wall no uh to get over to to cut the distance sometimes that's what you do it cut the distance so you went over the wall which wall was that uh i'm not sure i'm not sure what well that was but yeah no this is not this is not from wall this is not from one but look at it yeah it definitely is it's look i see it right here like this like while receiving a cornerback and asu is it's like okay yes you think you can catch this ball we ain't got no equipment on and he got long nails so i'm like yo let's let's look at some nails look one two three four five six seven that's it nails that's eight nails no but we all playing football nails that's at least eight nails but different locations of you see this one is longer they're all consistent they're going in the same direction yes but this you always i always do the same thing you're going in the same direction yes sir right and that's i as i explained to you before yeah i sustained some of those injuries before just by getting overwhelmed but you're a police officer well yes that's just like football players it's the same you've got big thighs so your workout could be the same workout for an athlete you gotta understand we're both moving we're alive right now so is sticking me somebody is on on top of me a cornerback and he's like you know what i mean that's what it is but yes i do jump walls because it cuts the distance and it's funny so tell me when was the last time you jumped over a wall i'm not sure but you did it last night you said you did it last night to get back into that yes i don't want to give you a false room i just want to let you know you are right i do jump at the wall but this is from the wall not this which one is from the wall this is from the wall what this is from the wall now that was last night uh yes okay and that was to get back into the house yes okay when was that because i i missed that part you didn't do that to go to general house too sometimes yeah yeah you just yeah hold on sir you parked your car we went through the whole light yeah no he's like you know he said he said he said let me see your injuries and i told him i'm talking about when you jump the wall no but he said these look like wall injuries okay i don't say anything i'm just trying to figure out when this happened we went through the whole night yeah you parked your car after you got back from qt you left yeah you came back got your phone yeah about 15 minutes later i had to jump the walls to do to even uh get back that time that's when you jumped the walls i checked the walls all the time especially though last night when did you drop the wall and i do it sometimes during the day i haven't gone holy sometimes i i swim in people's pools where did you where did you walk down the sidewalk you jumped your wall uh-huh um all right straight space black let's go straight yeah so you didn't drop any walls that time yeah jump the walls to get closer to john okay like through backyards you mean like the idea okay okay okay yeah i'm hopping over the backyard to get to the oversized and then when you came back to get your phone where you jumping walls then too always because it cuts distance okay and it's hot outside you will get a heat stroke okay yeah okay yeah and then after you got your phone you left again you joined some more walls yeah do i bury it buried it okay yeah i dropped from my walls dropped some more walls you buried your phone yeah you always bury in the same place i do like the kids and i did bury it i'm surprised it is late outside but they're outside i'd love to know where this was because if i could go out there and find some fresh dirt where you buried this phone that would help verify your story yeah um if it's always in the same place you know the construction site where the construction workers are right about like around that area uh okay yeah okay yeah and then you went to john's house and you stayed there until this morning yes sir we're getting a little bit more each time right why did he not tell us that he went back to the house and had to jump the wall to get back into the house why did you not tell us i'm not mad right so they said that but i'm thinking like what what is the you got so i feel like a face mask i don't know it's sunscreen so i'll be playing football gotcha you know you get the sun you want the sun to hit your face oh no you leave work you want to put on like outfit you know yeah no it's smart i just didn't know okay oh because some people do like the skin uh what's it you know skin oh yeah i should have been dried up most of it's gone there's just a little bit oh okay okay okay but yeah i'm jumping walls sometimes that's when people pool so when you went back inside where was candace last night when he went back inside what was she doing i didn't go back when i came back you guys are okay well you said you jumped the wall and went back to the house right to john's house no you told me no he just asked me he said he just asked me about so you've been jumping walls you've been jumping walls are you joking you told me that you went back to your house last night and you jumped the wall to get in there gray keeps adding to his story but the problem when you do that is it is harder to get things to line up correctly and you have to fill those gaps with even more lies his story was flimsy to begin with but now it's practically in shreds no no not to get in the house i jumped the walls to get back to my house i'm sorry to say but to get to my house i'm jumping the wall so when i'm leaving john i'm jumping the what is about daylight now i'm still jumping close to get back to my house to talk to y'all okay that's fine okay i wasn't going to jump over my own fencing i think i marked something or whoever i'm like no i'm gonna go over and talk to y'all i don't know what's going on i ain't jumping over my neighbors and getting into my own uh uh land did you that's what you said he did he said he did yeah and you said you've done it multiple times because it cuts the distance but yeah but the thing is you guys were there and you said you did that last night to go back to the house i didn't go back to the house last night i came back when you guys found me and i went to the house that's when i came back so that's why i'm jumping back we get it so i'm jumping back during that time any other time without the cops yes i'm getting back in the house from jumping over the walls you know what i'm saying is this as uh what do you say is arizona okay okay this is a travel place it's like you got the grand canyon so because you knew we the officers were at the house you didn't want to be jumping balls and looking like you were doing something yes yeah yeah i want y'all like the neighbors complained about it okay or something happened i just didn't want to be that culprit the one that was jumping the walls so when your phone was buried between like 10 what was 10 30 10 45 something like that until you went and got it this morning you know what about dirk getting in and everything like that uh nah okay because i got insurance so i feel like i get a fun new phone every month okay and it's like it still seems easier to me just to like throw it in the cabinet or something right now no like your friend's house it's your friend's house oh your friend's house yeah take it throw it in the cabinet sound like a towel and turn it off i'm not even messing with my phone tell them what you don't trust them though you want to be aware where everything's with everything you're doing and you trust them there's not nothing meat and bad going on it's still a b c d e f g it's just so it's the second time you've been in the drugs house yeah but you bury your phone out there all the time near the house so that the phone is like near the crib like strela where construction does yeah okay yeah what other where else do you go that you buried out there so you don't take it with you um man i mean the kids see me bury it the kids that be at the playground they see me buried and uh well shoot man sometimes you were just worried that john might take your phone you know what about these kids taking your phone no i trust the kids though because i know that it's a burn phone there's nothing on it it's just like but but you're worried about john taking your phone i don't know him i'm not worried about something i'm saying that what i'm trying to say is you don't need a phone because the phone is going to make you unaware i've been out from philly so if people getting killed for looking down at their phone and look around and get shot so i'm saying i don't need to be in that city and one i got to protect my image and protect what i do so i need to be aware and conscious at all times okay i don't need a phone use my phone john what you want to talk about john so we're going to go over here john okay come on all right between well i was buried yeah they buried 10 something yes sir until you got it this morning yes would anybody have used that phone for any reason i think they charged it only so that phone should not have been used because if somebody used it that means they went unburied it used it and i don't see an embarrassing drill for you to get that seemed true and the thing is it was dead we're not we're not because when officers were at your house before you got there okay they called that number that phone they talked to presumably you inside your house about on the ground that ain't me exactly what i'm saying is somebody was using it so okay the piece i'm trying to fill in here isn't whether or not the person that was using your phone was black but the person that was using their phone was using the phone period anybody it was buried right so when they talk to somebody on the phone what did they say what did they talk well i didn't have the phone conversation but it was on that number right so after they talked to that person that was pretending to be you then went back out there and buried it again so that when you were walking home this morning you could um bury it and bring it home with you yeah that makes it i know here gray is probably the most honest he has been during this entire interview his story doesn't make sense not from any angle jim dar's story on the other hand lines up perfectly with corroborating facts i don't that that part of the story don't make sense no i don't know if that's even true how can somebody talk on that phone if it's dead well i suppose if it was dead they couldn't i'm just i'm not telling you they're telling you how it works i'm just telling you this the steps that i know i know a phone call was made on that phone to somebody while they were outside your house don't get a reporting of that did he record it i'm sure we record everything if he recorded it then maybe we record everything maybe we we we can you know figure something out as far as i find my eye so you and my partner talk to my partner mentioned a little bit yeah um before i stepped out about thinking ahead and looking forward yeah and i talked to you a little bit about the steps that we on our side are going to take to help to help establish these facts right hey i'm not just going to do that yeah yeah so looking ahead thinking forward there's no one unless you get treated yet knowing what we're good she's that's what that's the other half of our job right that's how it that's how we take care of things so i know she's been frightening knowing that that's where we're headed with this investigation and we sit down we have another conversation with you later okay let's just imagine later we sit down with another conversation and we tell you listen mr gray this is what this is what we saw this is what we found out between neighbor cameras or gps on your phone um all that stuff we talked about cops so i was gone when probably the cops were there did the cops see the vehicle in the driveway because if they seen the vehicle in a driveway that tells you that i'm telling the truth because like i said i dropped the vehicle back home and i went back to jones but he was on the phone he's saying that he doesn't that doesn't tell me that you're telling the truth what it tells me that the vehicle was in the driveway and that wherever you were was because he was in the house somewhere because that phone don't add up with what she's saying if somebody called off that phone he's saying that because of this mr gray no no no no that's the only piece of this story that doesn't happen for you based on what you're laying out for us but i can tell you right now to be perfectly honest the other side of the table none of that so if you look at the video i went to the qt let me just say this i got no problem with that yeah you'll see me at the qt you'll see me pump gas you ain't gonna see anything else you see me walking out of my house you may see that you may see those videotapes of me walking out loud because some people don't have those tapes some people don't yeah and then you may not see that and then what you may see is me hopping over fences or something like that um to get to john's house maybe which you may see someone called by the way someone called and said hey someone just jumped over my phone i don't know who so what you may see is the video that i'm showing you which is going to support her mental health have you ever used the name mark before no not at all my name brochure you've never used the name mark before what if i tell you right yeah potential like we're thinking ahead again yeah right yeah um history to show that whenever you check into hotels you use the name mark before and when you're ordering food we have information we have information that lead us to believe that you have used that name more the detective has let gray bury himself up to the neck and lies before he dropped this particular nugget of information it looks like mark may not even exist which calls john into question as well before can you ever and it's consistent with i don't order food my my girl cooks so mr gray it's it's consistent with you using this name mark again making this phone call from that location mark is a common name sir i don't use if if anything when i did this tv show you see look i'm from the tv show empire i know you know i would use aliases okay i wouldn't use mark i would use other aliases so they don't know you can hear my voice and you can tell it's me sometimes you dig me something like i would need to use a different name back then now that she cooks for me every day i cook for her every day we don't so you're saying so you're saying chicago and i'm trying to go i'm trying to check the conversation about the phone call yeah it isn't in here yeah you're saying when i came and i sat down you're saying yeah so he's putting it on me he's trying to put it on me before you're making reference to trying to put because if i found this out i'm looking for him no hold on he's going down who are you saying is trying to put all of this on you because mark yes because you're saying mark dialed from your call the police from your number he had to when i left the phone in there but i don't understand fingerprint should be on your phone yes it should be should be at least somebody you know somebody right yeah or if he's smart you wipe it down i don't know what type of street smart he has i don't know if he is street smart but you didn't wipe it down hell no i didn't wipe it down once i digged it up off the ground still covered in dirt still covered in dirt but we don't know how street smart this guy is because you know why he did all this and it's still it's still y'all still don't believe me so i feel like he is smart he'd been in a situation before he knew how to manipulate the evidence because we talking about me somebody showed up and tried to show y'all something of what where's you know what's going on instead of somebody that's missing that's just like you know a murderer yeah you're telling me that mark called from your phone to report her missing that phone was used only for youtube at that time to play music um and that was it play songs i got back to the house parked the car left the phone in the car went the giant house came back very different you have some hot defenses because it's cheap this is not cheaper but it's faster okay it's a long day i don't know man it's gonna be a long day i'll go my way do you guys have rough sex something last night did you or yesterday we always do okay what's rough uh anything because she's she's tender she's well what do you mean like what just you said sometimes describe your version of rough you wanna really hear this yeah it's some kind important all right hitting it from the back you know that's really it okay but any like any like um you know any like rough stuff like she wants you to slap her or hit her you she hits you [Music] she likes me to slap her up she like that on her butt no so just left her her face she likes it okay yeah did you yesterday every time every time she wants it did she want it yesterday um no okay no she didn't ask you to how do you know when she wants it she says that she tells you to okay um anything else like choking i know there's a lot of that kind of stuff okay what about her to you uh well you know what yeah i might do this from the like in the back that's it okay what's that around the neck shoulders were you talking shoulders like the whole thing sometimes i might just grab a whole neck okay gray must have caught himself and remembered that she is going to have fresh bruising around her neck what he doesn't realize is that it is possible to tell the hand position and if that is compatible with the situation he described like that okay how do you know if you're squeezing too hard for another neck um i don't get off on it i just get off on you know hurting liking that type of stuff well but i mean how do you know like so that you know that it does never that point like accidentally i'm saying oh i never did it now i'm tender that's supposed to be your wife okay did you do that yesterday when you guys had sex yes okay but it it wasn't like you know like crazy you know she i never go like that okay that's just crazy okay yeah um did she confront you about anything was she mad at you about anything she's always mad about a girl or mad about something you know it's never i don't know what was she mad about yesterday she's a smart female man she's very smart you know what was she mad about yesterday she's just you know if she see me texting she's like what you doing you're not texting girls are you i'm not taking nobody not worried about that and that's what yesterday that's like every day that's our language no i don't know but i want to focus on what happened yesterday and what what was yesterday what was her dealing with language when i'm talking to you it's because i'm in i'm here when i'm free i'm free i get to say what i want i get to do what i want it's my world so that's our rule that's our language that's how our health get down if you're around somebody like this and i'm looking at you i'm giving you life when you look at me in the eye it's you gotta you allowing me to to to be that vessel because every man is like jesus you allowing my body to be used as a vessel i just want to know what she was mad about yesterday all right you know she always said about something but like i said she's a smart woman she don't she always want to keep my attention so what did she do yesterday what did she tell you yesterday physically with her mouth what'd she say yesterday she's just like you better not be texting those girls okay and then what what did you say back okay cool that was it was that before the sex or after the service that's before and after sometime yesterday yeah i go in the bathroom i i got my phone in the bathroom i come out the bathroom when she says it you texting them girls you better be texting okay so you guys had this conversation before and after sex yesterday yeah listen to her okay yeah okay what we do is shown on television through different movies different mediums you have cops you have you know gsr css you have fire right so you probably understand what fingerprints the potential that fingerprints could bring to an investigation to show that a person touched an item same thing with dna to show that they were at this particular location can you explain to me yes sir why your dna would be on a chunk of hair that's under the bathroom in your house that belongs to her yes how do you explain that okay let me tell you why now i'm in the bedroom now you know the bedroom setup is the bathroom it's the bedroom it's the cats i tell her all the time stop combing your hair so much you're breaking your hair up i didn't marry you because you you got you want to shorten your hair marriage because you have long beautiful hair yes i i she's tender headed as well i try not to pull her hair while we have sex but i just can't help it sometimes but with that she's combing her hair and she's like babe look i'm like what is it thing a lot this time you know we she does that a lot when she comb her hair and without wetting it it comes out so what i did was i put it on the sink when she gave it to me in my hand i put it on the sink and then i put it in the drawer because i want her to remember this is we don't want to keep you don't want to keep stressing your hair out stop i told her you take care of everything but your hair take care of your hair i tell her that every day i say babe take care of your hair you don't got to worry about anything else just take care of your hair you worried about everything else but taking care of your hair so whenever that hair would come out yes does it cause an irritation to her head like it was yangton she sometimes she's watching tv which we just got cable we didn't have cable let me say this we didn't have cable our whole relationship we don't watch cable we don't she didn't have a phone until like two or three weeks ago so yeah that's something to think about she's not having a phone she's she's not having no phone for about three weeks you know i'm just giving her a phone because our connection we had too many people involved in our life we just needed to get away from that let me tell you right now oh we got away from that and so while she's watching tv she's combing her hair and just like the f1 savannah cat scratches her and bites her sometimes she tells me like simba just bit me in the butt and i say you know i say simba you know he's a he's a wildlife animal you know i take him out the room and that's what i do i have three cats well two cats one dog so she's combing her hair she you can even you can even ask her no i get it you asked her to come here she called the hair out right yeah yes sir she turned the hair out so which neighbor lots of women shed heavily when they comb their hair but very few actually pull it out by the roots when doing so it's also hard to believe that he would put a wad of that hair in a drawer in an attempt to get her to take better care of her hair but in this complicated fiction that he is woven it is probably one of the easier points to overlook which neighbor has john's phone number bro i literally would tell you if i knew i would say this house right here this is you know what i mean just like the dirty find out your friends like the dirt bikes that ride around that's not street legal they get on my nerves sometimes it's a simple question man you talk to this neighbor she called john what's neighbor is it i don't know i like i said i just moved around here is one trump supporter across the street from me i don't like trump okay that's the only one that i don't really is it down though it's not that neighbor then it's not is it to the side of you i only noticed two people since i moved here so you don't you don't know no but she knows john how she got his number oh not candace doesn't know john no you're not she is she knows your neighbor neighbor knows john how does how does she know john uh her parents parents his parents not her parents his parents you need to use bathroom or anything okay so you said where she lost her hair from there's no irritation there no redness or anything like that when she close her hair she calms her hair um you know like that lots of hair that you're talking about the loss of fear that she knows the edges the loss of here that's in like where we just talked about yes for a regular person that'd be a lot of hair but for her that's just every day that's every day for her and irritation guess when you pull on her hair movie having sex she's like babe you got to stop you know i mean you think there's an irritation to her hair or now um period when i first met her you know there's irritation to her head now from from her hair loss no no it's this irritation from like you know when we have sex and sometimes i pull that hair did you pull her here recently i always do when we have sex but i don't it's like she said you got to be lightly so i do it lightly i don't do it where her head is bleeding or something like that but you know her not to the point where we pull out no she pulls when she combs her hair she'll give me the hair and i'll just put it up somewhere i don't just throw it away i'm like you know african-american women they buy this type of hair you know you need to take care of your hair that's all i'm trying to answer all your questions that i want to know we're just trying to at least leave the room with some understanding right of what you reported to us because we have to begin to make a report we have to keep going handcuffs i don't even get to make a report of anything yeah i just yeah i said put the suit on him yeah i didn't even give me the chance to you know there's been people using the phone you said allegedly she knows where i bury the phone as well maybe she said something to him he probably buried that phone over blah blah blah he probably using that damn phone i told her where i buried it you told her maybe that's about it where did you tell her you buried it at home right where i told you you didn't because you just told me it's around there how did you find it that was the house right there the first house so you're sitting down you're talking to her and telling her where you're burying it i have to sit down talk to her she's me that's my wife in the final moments of the interview gray says that he told jimdar where his phone is buried why the whole point of burying it was supposedly so she couldn't go through it if she knows where it is she can just go dig it up which means the whole process is pointless gray is a prime example of a person who is incapable of lying effectively he may say that jimbar isn't able to make herself understood very well in english but she gets her story across more clearly and more accurately than grey bashir gray pleaded guilty to a charge of aggravated assault in february 2021 other related charges against him including aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and kidnapping were dropped gray received ten days in jail plus three years of probation terms of his probation included not being able to drink any alcohol and to not have any contact with the victim in any form unless approved by the adult probation department in arizona

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Length: 101min 1sec (6061 seconds)

Published: Mon Apr 11 2022

Reddit Comments

[u/Souse-in-the-city]

What is it with Empire and the cast being complete dickheads?

[u/bondfool]

He got ten days in prison for beating her, by the way. I’ve had longer flus.

[u/The_Legend_of_Xeno]

"I couldn't have beaten my wife. I was at Subway."

[u/konstantinox]

Thank you for posting. JimCantSwim got me into these interrogation videos and now he’s gone 😿

[u/MatsuoManh]

Yeah, we kinda knew it wasn't Jussie...

[u/Negrodamu5]

Real classy bunch they got over there at Empire.

[u/cheetosbum]

why the bad acting when they called themselves actor/actress?

[u/BIGGKRIZZ]

Man this guy is a bad actor

[u/_Cetarial_]

So we’ve got a douchebag faking a hate crime, and a wife beater.

Cool show.