The Evolution Of Modern Women's Preferences In Men - Eric Weinstein

do you find that women heterosexual women respond to classical masculinity have to be very careful as I asked because they certainly respond more than they're supposed to according to Modern rules of femininity correct but my guess is that it's greatly decreased from the market for masculinity in the 60s let's say so look again inter and intrasexual Dynamics something I've spent an awful lot of time learning about I'm a book at the moment with David bus evolutionary psychologist okay on this in the early 2010s after the success of 50 Shades of Gray MH there was a proliferation of dark romance novels and they there was a push back from the feminism movement saying that the portrayals of men as dominant masculine beard did big chested in a loin cloth or a plaid shirt wielding an axe uh wasn't what women wanted they wanted a softer more like the bronny guy or the Marboro man correct they they wanted a softer version of this so they started putting more agreeable more feminized men on the front cover of books they didn't sell right but I wouldn't guess that either of those would be where modern women's heads would be at now in the space of 10 years so I think that there's a there there's massively a difference between stated and revealed preferences sure right and also to you know to caveat that the thing that you may sexually fantasize about is not necessarily what you want to get into a relationship with guys will say say more that uh what you optimize for in a one night stand and what you optimize for in a marriage partner aren't always necessarily the same I would think they would be wildly desperate correct which means that the front cover of the romance novel is not necessarily the partner that you want long term they're the one that you want to fantasize about most of these stories are driven by sex rather than driven by love so I I have this hypothesis and I wonder if you you have names for all sorts of things that I let before you give me I just need to Bunch this up your acronym your ponant for Acron acronyms yeah and a friend Mary says meme first explain later and I think that uh some of my favorite episodes they rely on aphorisms they rely on on creating memes sure small quippy razors and so on and so forth first off because it makes it easier to remember but secondly because that's what gets the hooks into you this is how you make things so if you are somebody that's listening that has an idea that really loves that idea give it a name give it a name and give it a cool name I came up with Fame seesaw the other day which is that uh on your way up people want to support you because you remind them of their dreams when you're at the top they tear you down because you remind them of what they gave up on yeah yeah fameous seaw beautiful and now even if it's [ __ ] wrong you can't forget it so it's good very nice you were saying um that when women when heterosexual women realize that they have several possible life cycles and they don't have a clear sense of which one they will actually live am I going to get married and raise children and be at home with the children am I going to get married and have one child maybe two and be a career person am I never going to couple but have children am I going to have no children whatsoever am I going to do that in a coupled situation yep their decision trees blow out as to what it is that they're actually looking for and one of my strong senses is that women encountered something they weren't expecting which is that they might even be smarter than the guy at work who they're competing with but he's happy to come in all of Saturday all of Sunday and work hours that are completely psychotic and so then the idea of well we need work life balance we don't want people coming in on Friday and Saturday because that's sort of an unfair advantage that somebody who wants a healthy life is different from somebody who wants an extreme life and so now you have this problem which is I'm attracted to the sort of man I wouldn't want to compete with at work if I'm going to be in the office I want to know that I'm not going to have to deal with the guy who's willing to give up every weekend and work hours that I'm unwilling to work because that's not how I'm set at the factory versus um I want that guy as the go-getter while I'm pregnant and incapacitated in raising children to make sure that not only he can Shepherd our family through anything because he's highly capable but can also get me back into the workforce when I'm done raising children and this is someone what what I believe is responsible for the sort of incoherent messages that men and women are sending to each other is that when we don't know what life cycle we are going to be inhabiting our eroticism and our romance and our desire is unstable one of the most uncomfortable correlations that I found over the last few years is that as gender inequality pay inequality between genders increases relationship satisfaction for both men and women increases as well sorry decreases the more egalitarian the more equal the pay the less satisfied both sexes are with relationships H men who are in relationships where the woman is the primary bread winner of 50% more likely to use erectile dysfunction medication where a woman is contributing More than 70% of the household income the marriage is twice as likely to end in divorce women for a man uh sorry for a woman to move herself the same distance on a 10o scale in terms of attractiveness that a man can by increasing his income by $100,000 she would need a 10,000 times increase in income in short women are interested socioeconomically in the status of their partner in a way that men aren't now the problem that you have is that women now have access to education and employment in a way that they never have done before so they're no longer financially dependent on men sure but you're seeing something which is particularly heartbreaking in my group of of females which would be women in their mid to late 50s I have to be honest I've seen some of the women I was most impressed by never coupling and when I when you talk to them there's some very uncomfortable things that get said one of which was I was looking for a man I could look up to and the pool was just so small and then and and you know you're thinking well okay it's illegal to say I'm looking for a man that I could look up to right because that's not in accordance with modern feminism and egalitarianism but on the other hand this idea that when you you know one of the world's leading chemists or something uh there's just not that many men that are going to be in that position I got another meme for you yeah this is I got in a lot of trouble for this it's called the toll go problem so if you stand a top your own status hierarchy it's very difficult to find somebody else across and above from yours you know if you're a 6' one girl without heels you're looking at professional athletes and two women for every one man completing a four-year us college degree by 2030 between the ages of 21 and 29 women earn 1,111 more on average than their male counterparts right but women still have this vestigial attraction to the man who is across and above from them that's hypergamy and this means that as you rise up through your own dominance hierarchy it amounts to a opportunity of diminishing returns but then why are we not allowed to build better men I mean this is the really this is this thing that just floors me I'm now through through being a father looking at the subset of young men who are absolutely looking to crush it and the advice they're being given is so horrific what like well that doesn't seem mentally healthy and uh you know I I think it's much better for you to sort of enjoy this time with everyone else and you know it's just like watering down raw ambition and you know was it ludicrous who said get out the way you know get out of the way of these people these people want to invest and blow your socks off and just do amazing things and there's some administrator or nanny or nurse ratchet who's like well that would be arrogant we can't have that and and you're saying I don't think you understand it but ambition is a necessary input for certain humans and if you sit there and say why do you have a right to innovate when nobody else is innovated or uh don't you realize that your go-getter personality during the covid uh situation was based on your privilege and uh in fact a lot of other people are suffering from mental health you're just thinking why am I taking the most promising people and tying them to the most damaged people why not instead take the most promising people and have them get a PhD by the age of 2021 and study what to do for their for their fellow Souls who are struggling do you remember when Elon took over Twitter and he started to rip out the tech team yeah and and he said I want to make Twitter a place where the people who want to work the hardest on the biggest problems can come and work and people said they looked at that and said this is going back to an archaic form of Silicon Valley where people are forced to sleep under desks and it's a blah blah blah those people do not have theory of mind to understand what it's like to be someone as driven as it takes to look at that from Elon not as modern day slavery but no wait a second it can be modern day slavery or it could be the person saying for God's sakes I'm burning to solve this problem let me sleep under my desk un unhook unhook the leash and let me go at this and there is a there is a cohort of people out there for whom that's their calling they didn't want to work at Twitter if they got Frappuccinos and mindful Monday afternoons off and to be able to play ping pong for half the week and whatever it was that was going on they want to go and they want to feel like they're contributing to an astronomically sized goal an un unreasonable goal and they want to feel the the rush of of going toward it and I think you're right I think that there is a dampening of ambition and since being in America since moving to America 18 months ago it's the fuel that I've had from the enthusiasm from the people I've been around has fueled me empowered me in a way that I I didn't wasn't it was alien I was 30 33 years old and I'd never felt it before I want to look there's so much to do and it requires ambitious people and those people have to be both arrogant and humble it's a complicated thing it involves mentorship it's I want to say also something about elitism elitism is incredibly unfair you know I I've hung out with Stanley Jordan and I am never going to play any instrument the way Stanley Jordan plays the guitar he's an elite object I am not going to be that guy you have to learn how to let Elite people do Elite things that where you can't compete with them I don't know what to do about this the idea that we are turning against the concept of elite because we've got this sort of pretend Elite that sits in these chairs that screws everything up and you've got all of these ambitious people who are being destroyed by enforced helplessness you know how do we get how do we fire the administrators necessary to return universities to being universities H how do we explain that some people are built to fly wings suits you know it's a super dangerous activity but somebody needs that rush or they're not alive you know people need danger they need risk they need to be able to create and they don't need you in their in their way all the time this episode is brought to you by element element is a tasty electrolyte drink mix with everything that you need and nothing that you don't it's a healthy alternative to sugary electrolyte drinks it's got a science-backed electrolyte ratio of sodium potassium and magnesium you might ask what do I want with an electrolyte drink well it'll regulate your appetite it'll curb Cravings it'll help improve your 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Length: 14min 21sec (861 seconds)

Published: Tue Jan 09 2024