We Are Not Alone: Live roundtable on historic UFO hearing | NewsNation Prime

>> THIS IS A SERIOUS SERIOUS FOR A LONG TIME AND IT'S TOO LONG. >> THE BIGGEST DANGER IS NOT ALLOWING THE PUBLIC TO THE BIGGEST DANGER IS NOT TRANSPARENCY. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS IN POSSESSION OF YOU AND HE'S ABSOLUTELY. >> WOULD YOU HAVE HAD THE CAPABILITY TO DEFEND YOURSELF YOU'RE CAREER. ABSOLUTELY NOT. NO. THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE FACED WAS FAR SUPERIOR THAN ANYTHING THAT WE WE'RE GOING TO START TALKING TO PEOPLE ARE GOING START NAMING NAMES. NOW IT'S ON THE FRONT BURNER AND IT'S ABOUT TIME THE DAM HAS BROKEN. IT IS OVERFLOWING. WHAT I PERSONALLY WITNESSED VERY DISTURBING. SOMEONE TO REACH TO THE BAIL OF GOVERNMENT. AND THE POINT. WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO SOMETHING. YOU'VE GOT TO START ASKING YOURSELF THE HELL'S. >> DID YOU HAVE ANY PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HARMED OR INJURED CONCEAL THE 6 FOR CRYSTAL >> GOOD EVENING. I'M BRIAN ENTIN. WELCOME TO OUR SPECIAL REPORT A HISTORIC CONGRESSIONAL HEARING. 2 LINES OF SPECTATORS TO THE NATION'S CAPITAL WHERE UNDER OATH 3 WITNESSES TOLD LAWMAKERS AND THE WORLD. WE ARE NOT ALONE AND OUR GOVERNMENT HAS PROOF. REMEMBER THIS ALL STARTED WITH PENTAGON WHISTLEBLOWER. DAVID GRASS YOU SAT DOWN WITH INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST ROSS COLD HARD FOR AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH NEWS NATION. HE ALLEGED THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HAS A SECRET CRASH ACHIEVE PROGRAM AND CLAIMS THAT IS IN POSSESSION OF EVEN BODIES OF DEAD PILOTS. DAVID GRESH SAT BEBEFORE A USE OVERSIGHT COMMITE THIS WEEK ALONGSIDE FORMER NAVY PILOT RYAN GRAVES AND BLACK ACES SQUADRON COMMANDER DAVID FABER. THOSE WHO SAY THEY SAW SOMETHING NOT OF THIS WORLD, YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR THEIR TESTIMONY TONIGHT ALONG WITH SOME NEW MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE COME OUT SINCE THAT HEARING WHAT RUSSIA KNOWS ABOUT FOES AND REPORTS RUSSIAN WARPLANES HAVE ACTUALLY ENGAGED WITH US THEN WE WILL DISCUSS IT ALL WITH OUR PANEL OF EXPERTS, INCLUDING INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST ROSS COLD HEART WHO FIRST BROKE THE STORY RIGHT HERE ON NEWS NATION. WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT TO OPPOSE OR SOMETHING ELSE. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT TOP GOVERNMENT LEADERS DO NOT WANT US TO KNOW SOMETHING THAT IS BEING HIT SO LET'S START WITH THAT ALLEGATION OF A COVERUP DEEP INSIDE OUR OWN GOVERNMENT AND THE STUNNING MOMENT WHEN DAVID GRESH REVEALS TO CONGRESS JUST HOW HIGH THE STAKES ARE. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. BROTHER. THANK YOU ALL VERY HAVE YOU FACED ANY RETALIATION OR REPRISALS FOR ANY OF YOUR TESTIMONY OR ANYTHING. >> ON THESE LINES. HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHAT I SAY IN DETAIL BECAUSE THERE IS AN OPEN, A WHISTLLOWER REPRISAL INVESTIGATION ON MY BEHALF. I DON'T WANT TO COMPROMISE THAT INVESTIGATION. RIP BY PROVIDING ANYTHING THAT PROVIDE SOMEBODY INFORMATION, BUT IT WAS VERY BRUTAL AND I'M VERY UNFORTUNATE. SOME OF THE TACTICS THEY USED TO HURT ME. BOTH PROFESSIONALLY AND PERSONALLY TO BE QUITE FRANK. YEAH, IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE, AS THEY SAY, WHEN YOU'RE OVER THE TARGET, THAT'S MAY BE THE MOST. >> BY THE FIRE AND THAT HAVE ANY PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HARMED OR INJURED AND EFFORTS TO COVER UP OR CONCEAL THESE EXTRATERRESTRIAL TECHNOLOGY YES. THE HER AND ANYONE BEEN MURDERED THAT YOU WOULD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, OF OR HEARD OF I GUESS I HAVE TO CAREFUL ASKING THAT QUESTION. I DIRECTED PEOPLE WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES MAYBE IN WE COULD. GET IT GOING CONFIDENTIAL KERRY ASK IF WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT UNFORTUNATELY. WE WERE DENIED ACCESS TO THE SKIFF. AND THAT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE IN THIS SCENARIO. >> YOU HEARD REPRESENTATIVE TIM BURCHETT JUST REFERENCE A SKIFF. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT WORD A LOT TONIGHT. IT REFERS TO A SENSITIVE COMPARTMENTALIZED INFORMATION FACILITY, ESSENTIALLY AN ULTRA SECURE ROOM FOR GOVERNMENT CONTRACTORS AND OFFICIALS TO REVIEW SOME OF THE NATION'S MOST SENSITIVE IN CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS AND INFORMATION. THIS IS ALL TO PROTECT OUR NATIONAL SECURITY, WHICH WAS ALSO A TOP CONCERN FROM THIS WEEK'S WITNESSES, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO TECHNOLOGY ASSOCIATED WITH US, FOLKS. >> THIS IS FOR ANYONE BASIN BASED OFF EACH OF YOUR EXPERIENCES AND OBSERVATIONS. DO YOU BELIEVE PEAS POSE A POTENTIAL THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. >> YES, AND HERE'S WHY. THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE FACED WAS FAR SUPERIOR THAN ANYTHING THAT WE HAD. AND YOU COULD PUT THAT ANYWHERE IF YOU IF YOU HAVE ONE, YOU CAPTURED ONE. YOU REVERSE ENGINEER THAT YOU'VE GOT TO WORK. YOU'RE TALKING SOME THINKING GOING TO SPACE. GO SOMEPLACE DROP DOWN IN A MATTER OF SECONDS. DO WHATEVER IT WANTS AND LEAVE. AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. NOTHING. >> BUT ALSO LIKE THE HAD FROM OF COMMERCIAL AVIATION AND MILITARY AVIATION PERSPECTIVE. WE DEAL WITH UNCERTAINTY IN OUR OPERATING SPACE. AS A MATTER FOR PROTECTION OF PROFESSIONAL ACTIONS. DANA FINE FRIEND FROM FOE. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US. AND SO WHEN WE HAVE UNIDENTIFIED TARGETS AND WE CONTINUE TO IGNORE THOSE DUE TO A STICK MORE ARE FEARED WHAT IT COULD BE. THAT'S IN HELPING THEIR ADVERSARIES CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF STEPS SHOULD BE TAKEN BETTER UNDERSTAND RESPOND TO AP ENCOUNTERS IN THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY. >> THERE NEEDS TO BE LOCATION WITH THIS INFORMATION TO CENTRALIZE FOR PROCESSING AND THE NEED TO BE A TWO-WAY COMMUNICATION LIVE. SO THE OPERATORS ON THE FRONT AND HAVE A FEEDBACK AND CAN. >> CAN GET THE BEST PRACTICES AND HOW TO PROCESS INFORMATION. WHAT TO DO AND TO ENSURE THAT THEY THEY THEY'RE REPORTING IS BEING LISTENED TO RIGHT NOW. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH. MISTER GRESH IN YOUR COMPLAINT TO THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY INSPECTOR YOU INSPECTOR GENERAL, YOU CLAIM THAT YOU BELIEVE INFORMATION IS BEING HIDDEN. KIND OF INFORMATION YOU THINK WAS SAID AND YOU THINK IT SHOULD REMAIN IN. >> YES, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT VERY BRIEFLY NON-CLASSIFIED MANNER HAS IN PREPONDERANCE. MY COMPLAINT WAS CLASSIFIED INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITIES. BOTH A MATERIAL ACQUISITION EXPLOITATION ACTIVITY. I'M ALSO A BASE LINING THE PEAS BUT NOT SHARING IT WITH, YOU KNOW, INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE ACTUALLY DO IS STEP REEFS. THE PILOTS THAT THAT KIND OF INFORMATION. >> SO WHY DO THESE PILOTS, RYAN GRAVES AND DAVID FAVOR SAY THEY BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAW IN THE SKIES WERE NOT OF THIS FIRST, HERE'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID UNDER OATH. >> MISTER GRAVES. AGAIN. I'D LIKE HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THESE WERE NOT OUR CRAFT. >> SOME OF THE BEHAVIORS THAT WE SAW AND WORKING HERE. WE WOULD SEE THESE BEING 0, 0, MOCK THAT'S 0 AIR SPEED. OVER A CERTAIN PIECES OF THE GROUND. SO WHAT THAT MEANS, JUST LIKE A RIVER. IF YOU THROW BAADER AND IT'S GOING TO FLOW DOWNSTREAM. THESE OBJECTS WERE SAYING PLEASE STATIONARY AND CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE WINDS. THE SAME OBJECTS WITHIN ACCELERATE TO SUPERSONIC SPEEDS. 1 0.1.2 MOCK AND THEY WOULD DO SO IN VERY ERRATIC AND QUICK BEHAVIORS THAT WE DON'T I DON'T HAVE AN EXPLANATION FOR. GREAT HAVE YOU SPOKEN COMMERCIAL MILITARY PILOTS. AND SAYING THESE OFF OF OUR EAST COAST. A HALF. MISTER SHRIVER. I NOTICED AND THE TIC TAC VIDEO. IT'S TIC TAC LIKE THE CANDY NOT TIKTOK LIKE CHINESE AT THAT'S CORRECT. YES, ARRIVED FOR MIKE THAT IT BECAUSE MY >> CORRECT ME ON THAT AND CALL ME A BOOMER AND AND I SAID NOBODY ACT LIKE THE CANDY. HAVE TO JUST LOOK IT UP BUT I WOULD LIKE TO LIKE TO SAY TODAY IS A IS A DAY OF MANY FIRST, IT'S MIRACLE THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS THIS MEETING AND IT'S ALSO A MIRACLE THAT MY WIFE IS PUT UP WITH ME FOR 9 YEARS TODAY. TODAY ANNIVERSARY. SO I WANT TO TELL MY WIFE HAPPY ANNIVERSARY AND THAT I LOVE HER VERY MUCH. AS SHE LIKES TO SAY THIS. 9 YEARS HAVE BEEN THE BEST 2 YEARS OF HER LIFE. MISTER FAVOR. >> WHAT WHAT ASTONISHED YOU THE MOST ABOUT THE FLIGHT CAPABILITIES OF THESE TIC TAC VERY BRIEFLY. THE PERFORMANCE. ABSOLUTE PERFORMANCE. IT WAS. AND YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER OBJECTS. ANYBODY IN THE WORLD HAS IN THIS WORLD THAT HAS THOSE CAPABILITIES. NO, I THINK IT'S FAR BEYOND. AND ACTUALLY OUR MATERIALS SCIENCE THAT WE CURRENTLY POSSESS. >> ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY OTHER RECONNAISSANCE PLATFORMS. THE TRACK TO RECORD THE TIC TACS MANEUVERS. MAYBE THE NORAD SYSTEM OR ANY OF THE OTHERS. I'M NOT. YOU HEARD REPRESENTATIVE TIM BURCHETT REALLY TRYING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHO KNEW WHAT AND WHEN THEY KNEW IT, HE WANTS NAMES AND HE WANTS TITLES. >> BUT AS YOU'RE ABOUT TO HEAR A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION. DAVID GRESH SAYS HE CANNOT SHARE PUBLICLY. >> THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIRMAN, I'M GOING DIRECT ASSEMBLY MISTER BUT IF ANY OF YOU ALL FEEL LIKE YOU NEED JUMP AND JUST JUMP RIGHT IN AND WE'RE GOOD. AS THE U.S. GOVERNMENT BECOME AWARE OF ACTUAL EVIDENCE OF EXTRATERRESTRIAL OTHER AS UNEXPLAINED FORMS OF INTELLIGENCE. AND IF SO, WHEN DO YOU THINK THIS FIRST OCCURRED. >> I USE THE TERM MONUMENT ONLY TO DENOTE ORIGIN KEEPS THE APERTURE OPEN BOTH SCIENTIFICALLY. A CERTAINLY A LOOK AT SCRIPT DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY 1930'S. CAN YOU GIVE ME THE NAMES AND TITLES THE PEOPLE WITH DIRECT FIRSTHAND KNOWDGE AND ACCESS TO SOME OF THIS CRASH RETRIEVAL, SOME OF THESE CRASH RETRIEVAL PROGRAMS AND MAYBE WHICH FACILITIES MILITARY BASES THAT WOULD RECOVERED MATERIAL WOULD BE. AND I KNOW A LOT OF CONGRESS TALK ABOUT. WE'RE GOING AREA 51. >> YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S NOTHING THERE ANYMORE ANYWAY. IT'S JUST YOU KNOW IT AND WE MOVE LIKE A GLACIER SAYS WE ANNOUNCE IT. I'M SURE THE MOVING VANS AND PULL UP THAT POLICE. I CAN'T DISCUSS IT PUBLICLY, BUT I DID PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION BOTH TO THE INTEL COMMITTEES, AN INSPECTOR GENERAL AND WE COULD GET THAT IN THE SKIFF IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO GET IN A SKIFF WITH YOU AND THAT THEY PROBABLY WHAT YOU WOULD THINK. SURE. IF YOU HAVE THE APPROPRIATE ACCESS US. YEAH. WHAT SPECIAL ACCESS PROGRAMS COVER THIS INFORMATION AND HOW'S IT POSSIBLE THAT THEY HAVE EVADED OVERSIGHT FOR SO LONG. I DO KNOW THE NAMES ONCE AGAIN. CAN'T DISCUSS IT PUBLICLY AND HOW TO DO VERSAILLES IN A CLOSED SETTING. I CAN TELL YOU THE SPECIFIC TRADE CRAFT USE. ALL RIGHT. WHEN DID WHEN YOU THINK THOSE PROGRAMS BEGAN AND WHO AUTHORIZED CAN. I DO KNOW A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN'T DISCUSS PUBLICLY SINCE ALL MANY I WANT TO JUMP IN ON THE ISSUE. MORE THAN WELCOME TO. WHAT LEVEL OF SECURITY CLEARANCE IS REQUIRED TO FULLY ACCESS. THESE PROGRAMS. WELL, ANYBODY WHO I SAY THAT BECAUSE MYSELF. REPRESENT REPRESENTATIVE LOU, NO WORD BASICALLY TURNED AWAY AT 1 POINT AG ONE. SO PLEASE GO RIGHT CERTAINLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEMBER ACCESS AND SAY SOMEBODY LIKE ME. BUT ANYBODY HAS A, YOU KNOW, TSA CI CLEARANCE AND MEETS THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA, THE AXIS JUDY KATE OF AUTHORITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GRANT YOU MISTER SO JUST TO BE PUT A FINE POINT ON THAT. THERE'S NOTHING THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT'S ABOVE SPECIAL ACCESS PROGRAM CLASSIFICATION. IT'S A MISNOMER THAT THERE'S ANYTHING ACTUALLY ABOVE TOP SECRET EXECUTIVE ORDER 13, 5 26 28 CLASSIFICATION SPRITE. AND BUT I I DROP ON THAT BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE PROGRAMS. AND SO THE NOTION THAT WE'RE NOT BEING GIVEN THAT ACCESS SORT OF DEFIES OUR TYPICAL MUSCLE MEMORY HERE IN CONGRESS. THANK YOU, MISTER GIOIA, BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU, MISTER GATES ALONG THOSE LINES TITLE 10 AND YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW THIS OR NOT, BUT THAT TITLE 10 AND TITL50 AUTHORIZATION. AS THEY THEY SEEM TO SAY THERE ARE AN EFFICIENT. SO WHO GETS TO DECIDE THIS IN YOUR OPINION IN THE PAST. TO GROUP OF CAREER. SENIOR EXECUTIVE OFFICIALS. OKAY. ARE THEY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. BUT WHEN AN OUNCE NEW BOTH IN AND OUT OF GOVERNMENT. AND THAT'S ABOUT AS FAR AS IT LEADS TO MY NEXT QUESTION. WHICH PRIVATE CORPORATIONS ARE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THIS PROGRAM. HOW MUCH TAXPAYER MONEY HAS BEEN INVESTED IN THESE PROGRAMS. YOUR KNOWLEDGE. I MEAN, WE KNOW. WE KNOW WE WE AUDIT THE PENTAGON EVERY YEAR. AND I'VE BEEN HERE 5 YEARS AND THEY FAILED. THE DAD GUM THING EVERY YEAR. LOSE OVER A BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. WE THINK AND THAT'S TOLD DEPARTMENT OF FANS, MAYBE 60% OR ASSETS ARE UNACCOUNTED FOR WHATEVER HECK THAT MEANS AND THE PUBLIC'S IT SECOND, YOU GO TO JAIL FOR THAT KIND OF. SO TELL ME. >> YEAH, I KNOW WHEN I DOLLAR OFFER MY DTS TRAVEL VOUCHER. I GET TO SEEMS LIKE A DOZEN WERE GIVEN SELL OVER 6. IF YOU SELL OVER $600 WORTH OF STEP ON A BITE. NOW YOU GET A CALL FROM THE IRS. PLEASE, WHAT CORPORATIONS? I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC METRICS TOWARDS IN YOUR THE SPECIFIC CORPORATIONS. I DID PROVIDE A TO THE COMMITTEES AND SPECIFIC DIVISIONS AND. I SPENT 11, HALF HOURS OF THOSE INTEL COMMITTEES. SOME GUY IS THERE ARE MANY. IS THERE BEEN AN ACTIVE US GOVERNMENT DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN TO DENY THE EXISTENCE OF AN THAT I DIDN'T IDENTIFY AERIAL PHENOMENA. >> AND IF SO, WHY? >> YOU CAN GO BEYOND WHAT I'VE ALREADY EXPOSED PUBLICLY ABOUT OK. I'VE BEEN TOLD TO ASK YOU WHAT THAT. BUT THAT IS AND HOW TO GET IN THE RECORD. WHAT HE STATED PUBLICLY IN YOUR INTERVIEWS FOR THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. IF YOU OF REFERENCE MY NEWSNATION INTERVIEW AND I TALK ABOUT A MULTI DECADE. YOU KNOW, CAMPAIGN DISENFRANCHISE PUBLIC INTEREST BASICALLY UP HIM. APOLOGIZE. MISTER CHAIRMAN. I YIELD BACK NEGATIVE 21 SECONDS. >> OKAY. THIS IS REALLY JUST THE BEGINNING BUCKLE UP BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT MORE AHEAD FROM THOSE HEARINGS, INCLUDING MORE ABOUT AN INCIDENT AT EGLIN AIR FORCE BASE THAT GOT THE ATTENTION OF FLORIDA REPRESENTATIVE MATT GAETZ SEES EXCHANGE WITH THE WITNESSES OVER A POSSIBLE MONEY TRAIL PLUS. >> IF YOU BELIEVE WE HAVE CRASHED CRASHED A STATED EARLIER. DO WE HAVE THE BODIES OF THE PILOTS, THE PILOT OF THIS CRAFT. THE SHOCKING ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION AND MUCH, MUCH MORE. IT'S ALL COMING UP IN THIS LIVE SPECIAL RIGHT AFTER THE BREAK. >> WE HAVE 40'S. DO WE HAVE SPECIES BOTH WELL, WHEN YOU RECOVER SOMETHING THAT'S EITHER LANDED OR SOMETIMES YOU THAT PILOTS AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AS FAN AS FANTASTIC COOL AS THAT SOUNDS. IT'S TRUE. THAT WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE MOST SHOCKING CLAIMS MADE BY PENTAGON WHISTLEBLOWER. DAVID GRESTE DURING HIS EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST ROSS COLD HEART RIGHT HERE ON NEWS NATION. U'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM ROSS LATER IN THE SHOW WILL HAVE A MOM LIVE ALONG WITH OTHER EXPERTS AS PART OF OUR ROUND TABLE ON THIS STORY HEARINGS AND WHAT COMES NEXT AND WHAT'S BEEN LEARNED SINCE THOSE HEARINGS. BUT FIRST, CONGRESSWOMAN NANCY MACE PRESSES FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT MILITARY PILOTS RYAN GRAVES AND DAVID FAVOR SAY THEY ENCOUNTERED. >> AND SHE PUSHES DAVID BRUSH ON HIS CLAIM ABOUT DEAD PILOTS WHERE HE SHARES EVEN MORE DETAIL. >> SO MY FIRST QUESTION HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND ALL I IF WE CAN JUST BE QUICK ON THESE FIRST 2 MASK. EACH OF YOU THE SAME QUESTION AND THEN I'LL GET TO EACH THE FIRST 1 WHEN YOU REPORTED YOUR EXPERIENCES WITH AP DID AND YOU FACE ANY REPERCUSSIONS WITH YOUR SUPERIORS. YES OR NOW KNOW. I'VE ACTUALLY NEVER SEEN ANYTHING PERSONAL. WE'RE ALL RIGHT. AND THEN DO IT. DO YOU BELIEVE THERE'S AN ACTIVE DIS-INFORMATION CAMPAIGN WITHIN OUR GOVERNMENT TO DENY EXISTENCE OF PEAS. YES OR NO. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER THAT. AS PREVIOUS PREVIOUSLY STATED PUBLICLY US. THANK PREVIOUSLY LIKE PROJECT BLUE BOOK. YES, BUT CURRENTLY I DON'T SPEAK FOR THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR MISTER WHAT PERCENTAGE OF P SIGHTING IN YOUR BELIEF. GO UNREPORTED BUYER PILOTS. >> THIS IS AN APPROXIMATION BASED OFF OF MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE SPEAKING WITH A NUMBER OF PILOTS. BUT I WOULD ESTIMATE WE'RE SOMEWHERE NEAR 5% REPORTING PERHAPS. >> SO LIKE 95% BASICALLY DON'T REPORT SEEING YOU AP. THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL ASSESSMENT. IN THE INCIDENT OFF VIRGINIA BEACH. SHE BELIEVE THE NAVY TOOK A DANGER TO YOUR AIRCRAFT SERIOUSLY AFTER IT WAS REPORTED ABSOLUTELY. A FEW QUESTIONS FOR MISTER FAVOR AS AN EXPERT NAVAL AVIATOR. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN AN OBJECT THAT LOOKED UNMOVED LIKE THE TIC TAC. YOU AP. DID THE TIC TAC YOU AP MOVE IN SUCH A WAY THAT DEFIED THE LAWS OF PHYSICS. THE WAY WE UNDERSTAND THEM. YES. MANY DISMISS YOU AS YOU AP REPORTS IS CLASSIFIED WEAPONS TESTING BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. BUT IN YOUR EXPERIENCE AS A PILOT. DOES OUR GOVERNMENT TYPICALLY TEST ADVANCED WEAPON SYSTEMS RIGHT NEXT TO MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR JETS WITH OUT INFORMING OUR PILOTS KNOW WE HAVE TEST RANGES FOFOR THAT. IT TOOK OVER 15 YEARS FOR YOUR ENCOUNTER WITH THE TIC TAC TO BE DECLASSIFIED. YOU FEEL THERE WAS A GOOD REASON TO PREVENT LAWMAKERS FROM HAVING ACCESS TO THIS FOOTAGE. >> NO, I JUST THINK IT WAS IGNORED WHEN IT HAPPENED AND IT JUST SAT SOMEWHERE IN A FILE. NEVER REPORTED. >> AND ENJOY. IT HAPPENS A LOT OF HERE, A SHOCKER, MISTER COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU TO SAY THIS MORNING. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF YOU AP USED. YOU FEEL ARE ADEQUATELY INVESTIGATED BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT OF THE 5% THAT ARE REPORTED. >> I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MY PERSONAL LEADERSHIP. OVERDONE. GA, I TRIED TO LOOK AT EVERY REPORT THAT CAME THROUGH THAT I CAN TRIAGE. SO. >> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT OFFICIALS AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF OUR NATIONAL CURATE E APPARATUS OF UNLAWFULLY WITHHELD INFORMATION FROM CONGRESS AND OUR OVERSIGHT AUTHORITY. >> THERE ARE CERTAIN ELECTED LEADERS THAT HAD MORE INFORMATION THAT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'VE SHARED WITH CERTAIN GANG OF 8 MEMBERS ARE ETCETERA. CERTAINLY. I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED. OKAY. >> YOU SAY THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS IN POSSESSION OF POTENTIALLY NON-HUMAN SPACECRAFT BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE AND EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH EXPERTS. DO YOU BELIEVE OUR GOVERNMENT HAS MADE CONTACT WITH INTELLIGENCE EXTRATERRESTRIALS. >> SOMETHING I CAN DISCUSS IN PUBLIC SETTING. >> OKAY. I CAN ASK WHEN YOU THINK THIS OCCUR. IF YOU BELIEVE WE HAVE CRASHED CRAFT A STATED EARLIER. DO WE HAVE THE BODIES OF THE PILOTS WHO PILOTED THIS CRAFT. >> AS I'VE STATED PUBLICLY READY. MY NEWS STATION A VIEW OF BIOLOGICS CAME WITH SOME OF THESE RECOVERIES. >> WERE THEY I GUESS HUMAN OR NONHUMAN BIOLOGICS. NOT HUMAN. AND THAT WAS THE ASSESSMENT OF PEOPLE WITH DIRECT KNOWLEDGE ON THE PROGRAM. I TALKED TO THAT ARE CURRENTLY STILL ON THE PROGRAM AND WAS THIS DOCUMENTARY EVANS'S VIDEO PHOTOS. >> EYEWITNESS LIKE HOW WOULD THAT BE DETERMINED. >> THIS SPECIFIC DOCUMENTATION. I WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO ABOUT. OKAY. >> SO AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE ANSWER MY LAST QUESTION AND MAYBE WE GET INTO A SKIFF AT THE NEXT HEARING THAT WE HAVE THAT WHO IN THE GOVERNMENT EITHER. WHAT AGENCIES OF AGENCY, WHAT CONTRACTORS WHO SHOULD BE CALLED INTO THE NEXT HEARING ABOUT PEAS EITHER IN A PUBLIC SETTING OR EVEN IN A PRIVATE SETTING AND YOU PROBABLY CAN'T NAME NAMES. BUT WHAT AGENCIES ORGANIZATIONS CONTRACTORS, ETCETERA, DO WE NEED TO CALL IN TO GET THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. WHETHER IT'S ABOUT FUNDING PROGRAMS ARE HAPPENING AND WHAT'S OUT THERE. I CAN GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC. >> CO-OPERATIVE AND HOSTILE WITNESS LIST OF SPECIFIC THEY WERE IN THOSE AND HOW SOON CAN WE GET THAT LIST? I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT YOU AFTER THE HEARING SUPER. THANK YOU AND I GO BACK. >> OKAY. SO STILL AHEAD TONIGHT, WE ARE SHARING A NEW LETTER JUST ENTERED INTO THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD FROM GEORGE KNAPP ABOUT WHAT KNOWS ABOUT OC AND REPUBLICAN TIM BURCHETT BECOME ALLIES. PLUS THIS. THE IMAGE WAS OF SOMETHING THAT I AM NOT ABLE TO ATTACH TO ANY HUMAN CAPABILITY. >> EITHER FROM THE UNITED STATES OR FROM ANY OF OUR ADVERSARIES. AND INCIDENTS SO SERIOUS AT AN AIR FORCE BASE IN FLORIDA THAT REPRESENTATIVE MATT GAETZ HAD TO GET INVOLVED. WE'RE BACK RIGHT AFTER THIS. >> WELCOME BACK TO THIS SPECIAL EDITION OF NEWS NATION AFTER A HISTORIC WEEK IN WASHINGTON WITH BOMBSHELL TESTIMONY ON US FOES. >> AND ALLEGATIONS OF DECADES-OLD SECRETS CAN DEEP INSIDE OUR OWN GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE BRAND NEW DETAILS AND DOCUMENTS TONIGHT ENTERED INTO THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD AND NEW BIPARTISAN ALLIANCE IS COMING TOGETHER IN THE WAKE OF ALL OF THESE ALLEGATIONS. MORE ON THAT COMING UP AHEAD LIVE WITH OUR PANEL. BUT LET'S GO BACK TO A SIGNIFICANT MOMENT DURING WEDNESDAY'S HEARINGS WHEN FLORIDA REPUBLICAN REPRESENTATIVE MATT GAETZ MADE A GUEST APPEARANCE AND HE SHARED FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, A CHILLING ENCOUNTER AND THE ROADBLOCKS. HE SAYS HE FACED WHILE TRYING TO GET ANSWERS. >> SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. MY OFFICE RECEIVED A PROTECTED DISCLOSURE FROM EGLIN AIR FORCE BASE INDICATING THAT THERE AP INCIDENT THAT REQUIRED MY ATTENTION. I SAW THE BRIEFING REGARDING THAT EPISODE AND BROUGHT WITH ME, CONGRESSMAN BURCHETT AND CONGRESSWOMAN LUNA. WE ASKED TO SEE ANY OF THE EVIDENCE THAT HAD BEEN TAKEN BY FLIGHT CREW IN THIS ENDEAVOR AND TO OBSERVE ANY RADAR SIGNATURE AS LONG AS TO AS WELL AS TO MEET WITH THE FLIGHT CREW. WE WERE NOT AFFORDED. >> ACCESS TO ALL OF THE FLIGHT CREW AND INITIALLY WE WERE NOT AFFORDED ACCESS TO IMAGES AND TO RADAR THEREAFTER. WE HAD. BIT OF A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW AUTHORITIES FLOW IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND WE DID SEE THE IMAGE AND WE DID MEET WITH ONE MEMBER OF THE FLIGHT CREW WHO TOOK THE IMAGE, THE IMAGE WAS OF SOMETHING THAT I AM NOT ABLE TO ATTACH TO ANY HUMAN CAPABILITY EITHER FROM THE UNITED STATES OR FROM ANY OF OUR ADVERSARIES. AND I'M SOMEWHAT INFORMED ON THE MATTER HAVING SERVED ON THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE FOR 7 YEARS. HAVING SERVED ON THE COMMITTEE THAT OVERSEES DARPA ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES FOR SEVERAL YEARS. WHEN WE SPOKE WITH THE FLIGHT CREW AND WHEN HE SHOWED US THE PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. I ASKED WHY THE VIDEO WAS ENGAGED. WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE A FLIR SYSTEM THAT WORKED. HERE'S WHAT HE SAID. THEY WERE OUT ON A TEST MISSION THAT DAY OVER THE GULF OF MEXICO AND WHEN YOU'RE ON A TEST MISSION, EXPOSE HAVE CLEAR SPACE OPPOSED ANYTHING THAT SHOWS UP AND THEY SAW SEQUENCE OF 4 CRAFT. IN A CLEAR DIAMOND FORMATION FOR WHICH THERE IS. A RADAR SEQUENCE THAT I AND I ALONE HAVE OBSERVED IN THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS. ONE OF THE PILOTS GOES TO CHECK OUT THAT DIAMOND FORMATION AND SEES A LARGE FLOATING WHAT I CAN ONLY DESCRIBE AS AN ORBIT. AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, NOT OF ANY HUMAN CAPABILITY THAT I'M THAT I'M AWARE OF. AND WHEN HE APPROACHED, HE SAID THAT HIS RADAR WENT DOWN. HE SAID THAT HIS FLIR SYSTEM MALFUNCTIONED AND THEN HE HAD TO MANUALLY TAKE THIS IMAGE FROM ONE OF THE LENSES AND IT WAS NOT AUTOMATIC IN COLLECTION, AS YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE IN A TEST MISSION. SO I GUESS I'LL START WITH COMMANDER CRAVER. IN SHOULD WE THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS CRAFT WAS APPROACHED BY OUR PILOT. HAD THE CAPABILITY OF DISARMING A NUMBER OF THE SINCE EARNED COLLECTION SYSTEMS ON THAT CRAFT. I THINK THIS GOES TO THAT NATIONAL SECURITY SIDE, YOU GO BACK THROUGH HISTORY OF. >> THINGS SHOWING UP IN CERTAIN AREAS AND DISABLING OUR CAPABILITIES, WHICH IS DISHEARTENING AND FOR US. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID IT. IT COMPLETELY DISABLE THE RADAR AND AIRCRAFT WANT TO TRY TO DO ANY ONLY CONCEDE IS PASSIVELY, WHICH IS HOW YOU GET THAT IMAGE. SO I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A CONCERN ON ONE OF THESE DOING NOT ONLY HOW OPERATE BUT THEIR CAPABILITIES INSIDE TO DO THINGS LIKE THIS. >> AND HOW SHOULD WE THINK ABOUT FOR KRAFT MOVING IN A VERY CLEAR FORMATION. EQUIDISTANT FROM 1 IN A DIAMOND. IT ALL OF THE PHENOMENON PERHAPS MISTER GRAVE THAT YOU'VE ANALYZED. HAVE WE EVER SEEN MULTIPLE CRAFT. AND IN A SINGLE FORMATION. AND ONE PARTICULAR CASE AND THAT DURING THE GAME BULLETS IN THE RECORDING ON THE A T FLARE SYSTEM SHOWS A SINGLE OBJECT THAT >> YOU HEAR THE PILOTS REFERRED TO A FLEET OF OBJECTS. THAT IS NOT VISIBLE ON THE FLIR SYSTEM. AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I WITNESSED DURING THE BRIEF AS PART OF THE RADAR DATA ON THE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS PAGE. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD WHOEVER CONGRESSMAN, THIS SMALL, SMALL BIT OF A ANGER. I WOULD SAY FEEL THOSE PILOTS ARE FACING THAT DIFFICULT IN REPORTING THIS TOPIC AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO MITIGATE THIS ISSUE. IT JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW SERIOUS THIS IS AND WHY THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR OUR FOR A NATION. IT WAS STATED EXPLICITLY TO ME BY THESE TEST PILOTS. >> THAT IF YOU HAVE OF AP EXPERIENCE. THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR CAREER IS FORGET IT AND NOT TELL ANYONE BECAUSE ANY TYPE OF REPORTING EITHER ABOVE THE SURFACE OR BELOW THE SURFACE DOES HAVE A PERCEIVED CONSEQUENCE TO THESE PEOPLE AND THAT IS A CULTURE WE MUST CHANGE IF WE WANT TO GET TO THE TRUTH. >> SO WHAT KIND OF THREAT COULD THESE YOU OPPOSE POSED TO AMERICANS AND ALSO OUR GOVERNMENT EVEN WITHOUT ALL THE INFORMATION IN THE ANSWERS. WE GOT SOME MORE THAT WE WERE EXPECTING UNDER OATH AND IT WAS VERY, VERY STARTLING. >> SEVERAL NEED NATIONAL SECURITY SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE FINANCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEES ARE REALLY WANT TO STAY IN THE NATIONAL SECURITY IF I MAY. SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT TRADITIONAL ADVERSARIES BOTH OF TOWARDS THEM AND THEM TOWARDS US. YOU KNOW, WE PROBE THEIR CAPABILITIES. WE LOOK FOR AND WE COLLECT THAT DATA THAT RECONNAISSANCE FOR IN THE EVENT WE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE. FOR EACH OF YOU. YES OR NO QUESTION. THEY SELL FOR YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE OR THE DATA THAT YOU'VE BEEN PRIVY TO. IS THERE ANY INDICATION THAT THESE FEES COULD BE A ESSENTIALLY A COLLECTING RECONNAISSANCE INFORMATION. MISTER GRACE. >> FAIR ASSESSMENT MISTER FRAZIER, VERY POSSIBLE. >> AGAIN IN THE NATIONAL SECURITY VAIN IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THESE YOU AT THESE WOULD BE PROBING OUR CAPABILITIES JUST, YOU KNOW, MISTER GRAPES. YES, RUSSIA S DEFINITELY. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THESE PEAS ARE TESTING FOR VULNERABILITIES IN OUR CURRENT SYSTEMS. YES. DO YOU FEEL BASED OFF OF YOUR EXPERIENCE AND INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE BEEN PRIVY TO THAT THE ISSUE OF PAY. CENTRAL THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY. THE UNITED STATES MISTER GRACE POTENTIALLY. POTENTIALLY. A TEAM ANSWER POTENTIALLY THAT'S FUN POTENTIALLY. >> MISTER GRAVES IN YOU KNOW, IN THE EVENT THAT YOUR ENCOUNTERS HAVE BECOME HOSTILE. WOULD YOU HAVE. WOULD YOU HAVE HAD THE CAPABILITY TO DEFEND YOURSELF. YOUR CREW, YOUR AIRCRAFT. ABSOLUTELY NOT, SIR. YOU KNOW. BASED OFF OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE BEEN PRIVY TO. IS THERE ANY INDICATION THAT THE ZBA PEAS ARE INTERESTED IN OUR NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY CAPABILITIES. YES, AND BY EXTERNAL OBSERVATION. SURE, THAT COULD BE A FAIR ASSESSMENT. HIM. YES. IS THERE ANY INDICATION THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY IS INVOLVED IN NEW AP DATA COLLECTION AND HOUSING. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. I CAN'T CONFIRM OR DENY THAT A PUBLIC SETTING AND YOU DO IT IN IN A SECURE SETTING. NO, I DON'T KNOW. MISTER YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M THE LAST MEMBER TO GO. BUT. THERE CLEARLY IS A THREAT TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AS MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN OVERSIGHT AND BE AWARE OF THESE ACTIVITIES SO THAT IF APPROPRIATE WE TAKE ACTION. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CHAIRMAN TO DEMAND THAT WE HAVE ANY AND ALL THE PARTICULAR MISTER BRUSH. TALK TO US IN A SKIFF. AND IF THAT ACCESS IS DEND, I WILL PERSONALLY VOLUNTEER INITIATE THE HOLMEN RULE AGAINST ANY PERSONNEL OR PROGRAM OR ANY AGENCY THAT DENIES ACCESS TO CONGRESS. >> YOU HEARD CONGRESSMAN ANDY OGLES REFERENCING USING THE HOLMEN RULE. AND THAT EXCHANGE THAT IS A HOUSE RULE THAT ALLOWS AMENDMENTS THAT COULD REDUCE THE SALARIES OF SPECIFIC FEDERAL EMPLOYEES FIRE OR CUT A SPECIFIC PROGRAM. OKAY. MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ARE HYPER FOCUSED ON TRACKING DOWN PEOPLE THAT COULD BE CONNECTED TO ALLEGATIONS OF THE GOVERNMENT COVERUP, INCLUDING A O C THERE INTO THE PROGRAMS. BUT THEY'RE PENTAGON WHISTLEBLOWER. DAVID GRESH IS BOMBSHELL CLAIMS AN EXCLUSIVE NEWS NATION INTERVIEW HAS SET OFF AN UNPRECEDENTED MOVEMENT IN WASHINGTON AND NEW CALLS FOR TRANSPARENCY FROM NOTABLE LAWMAKERS, INCLUDING DEMOCRAT ALEXANDRIA OCASIO CORTEZ TRIES TO CONNECT THE DOTS BETWEEN ALLEGED YOU AP SECRET PROGRAMS, GOVERNMENT CONTRACTORS AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. >> MISTER CRUSH, YOU SAT ON THE UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENON. TASKFORCE CREATED IN THE 2020 NBA. CORRECT. YES. THERE'S BEEN SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED HERE DURING THIS HEARING THAT I WANTED TO PICK UP IT'S MISTER GRAVES. YOU MENTION SPECIFICALLY DURING THE ANSWERS. ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS YOU NAMED BOEING CONTRACTORS BEING ENGAGED IN AN INCIDENT REGARDING THIS RED CUBA ABOUT A FOOTBALL. I'M A FOOTBALL FIELD WIDE THAT I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INTERACTION OR MISTER CRASH EITHER VIEW THE INTERACTIONS BETWEEN DEFENSE CONTRACTOR COMPANIES AND AN EU AP RELATED PROGRAMS OR ACTIVITIES. >> SO I'LL JUST SAY THATAT THE INFORMATION THE CONTRACT THEMSELVES ARE PROVIDED BY A WITNESS. AND I HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP. MISTER GRESH. >> THE KIND OF GENERAL AND CLASS WAVE TOP. SO CERTAINLY THE CONTRACTORS, YOU KNOW, THE METAL BENDER, SO TO SPEAK, FOR THE MONTH SECTION DOING SPECIFIC REPORT A PERFORMANCE ON GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS OR THE TO ISSUE ANY DISCLOSURE REGARDING YOU AP SIGHTINGS OR DO THEY ENGAGE IN ANY. >> REPORTING AROUND IN TERMS OF THE CONTRACTORS. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. THEY DO NOT. OKAY. NOW WHEN IT COMES TO NOTIFICATION THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT. >> SO I WRAPPED PROBE. I READ PROGRAMS. WE HAVE SEEN A DEFENSE CONTRACTORS THEIR CONTRACT BEFORE TO THIS COMMITTEE. I HAVE SEEN IT PERSONALLY AND I HAVE ALSO SEEN THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS TO CONGRESS ABUSED. I AM WONDERING. ONE OF THE LOOPHOLES THAT WE SEE IN THE LAW IS THAT THERE IS AT LEAST FROM MY VANTAGE POINT IS DEPENDING ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING SAID. THERE ARE NO ACTUAL DEFINITIONS REQUIREMENTS FOR NOTIFICATION ARE THERE. WHAT METHODS OF NOTIFICATION DID YOU OBSERVE LIKE WHEN THEY SAY THEY NOTIFIED CONGRESS. HOW DID THEY DO THAT? YOU HAVE INSIGHT INTO THAT. >> FOR CERTAIN IRAN I DO. WE THINK OF ONE'S CONVENTIONAL IN THROUGH 5 FLOW THROUGH CERTAIN ASAP PROGRAMS THAT HAVE CONGRESS AND AUTHORITY OVER OUT THE AIR FORCE OR SOMETHING. AND THOSE ARE CONGRESSIONALLY REPORTED COMPARTMENTS BUT I READ IS LITERALLY INTERNAL TO THE CONTRACTORS. SO AS LONG AS IT'S PROFITS PRIVATE INVESTMENT EXCITED TO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO PUT A FINER POINT ON IT WHEN THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR ANY AGENCY OR COMPANY TO FOR ANY AGENCY TO NOTIFY CONGRESS. >> DO THEY CONTACT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE. DO THEY GET THEM ON THE PHONE SPECIFICALLY IS THIS. NOW TO HYPOTHETICALLY A DEAD EMAIL BOX. >> A LOT OF IT COMES TO WHAT THEY CALL THE PPR PERIODIC PROGRAM REVIEW PROCESS. IF IT'S US, YOU KNOW, ITS APP. CONTROLLED ACCE PROGRAM, EQUITY AND THEN THOSE GO TO THE SPECIFIC COMMITTEES. WILL THERE BE THE SAS TASK TO SEE THINK YOU AND I APOLOGIZE. I I JUST MY TIME IS >> IF MISTER GRAVES, 1 OF YOUR MAIN CONCERNS THAT THE FAA CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVE AN OFFICIAL PROCESS TO RECEIVE REPORTS OF YOU AP FROM PILOTS ARE OTHERS CORRECT. CORRECT. IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, WHAT DATA SHOULD THE ARROW PROGRAM PRIORITIZE FOR POTENTIAL COLLECTION. WE HAVE NO LOCATION TO A TIME. BUT ARE THERE OTHER SPECIFIC ACTIVITY CHACTERISTICS THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THESE REPORTS. CERTAINLY I THINK THAT THERE'S 2 CATEGORIES THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT. ONE WOULD BE CAN MADDOX AND UNDERSTANDING THE SPECIFIC TO HOW THE VEHICLE OR OBJECTS ARE MOVING. >> AND THE SECOND WOULD WORDS. YOU KNOW, IT APPROACH OF BEING ABLE LOOK AT ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AFTER BEFORE THE INCIDENT AS WELL AS GETTING A BETTER CONTEXTUAL UNDERSTANDING HOW THESE OBJECTS ARE INTERACTING WITH EACH THANK YOU. >> NOW AT I BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE A MINUTE LEFT. I APOLOGIZE. WE ONLY HAVE 5 MINUTES TODAY, BUT. FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU OR ME, WHERE WOULD YOU LOOK. TITLES PROGRAMS. DEPARTMENTS REGIONS. IF YOU COULD JUST NAME. ANYTHING. AND PUT THAT IS AN OPEN QUESTION TO THE 3 OF YOU. >> I'D BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THAT AN ENCLOSED ENVIRONMENT. I CAN TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY. THANK YOU. I FAVOR. WOULD SAY AND I'VE TOLD PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHERE TO LOOK. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HOLD IT TO YOU BECAUSE THE CLASSIFICATION LEVELS. BUT IF YOU KNOW WHERE TO LOOK INTO TO TALK TO WHICH IS EXPANDING AGGRESSION POINT. YOU. >> AND YOU THEN YOU HAVE THEM. OKAY. >> MISTER GRAVES. I WAS AN OPERATOR SAW DEFENDING ON FOLKS LIKE MISTER GRESTE TO DO THAT HOMEWORK. OKAY. THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR BACK TO THE CHURCH. >> AND SO NOW IT SEEMS THE FLOODGATES HAVE OPENED AND THE RESPONSE FROM LEADING LAWMAKERS ON US. THOSE IS ABOUT AS DIRECT AS IT COULD BE. >> WE'RE GOING TO START TALKING TO PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING START NAMING NAMES. >> WHAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THESE WITNESSES TESTIFIED AND THE NEW INFORMATION THAT REPRESENTATIVE TIM BURCHETT AND ANNA PAULINA LUNA HAVE ESSENTIALLY BEEN LEADING THE CHARGE TO UNCOVER WHATEVER SECRETS THEY BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT MAY BE HIDING ABOUT UFO'S AND IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THIS WEEK'S HEARING. THEY SHARE IT EVEN MORE PLANTS. >> YOU WERE DENIED ACCESS AND SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WHAT'S GOING HAPPEN NOW IS NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE CHAIRMAN, WERE THERE TO GET A NICE LETTER FROM CONGRESS. AND AS YOU HEARD REPRESENTATIVE VOGEL SAID IT FOR TONIGHT. BRITNEY'S HOME ENROLL WILL DEFEND THE POSITION. AND THEN WHAT ABOUT OF ALL THE DATA ON IT. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO LEGISLATION COMING VERY MULTIFACETED. WE'VE GOT SO MANY IDEAS NOW. LIKE I SAID, THIS JUST THE FIRST OF MANY AND WE I MEAN, THE REASON WE GOT THIS IS WE DON'T WE. WE JUST TO THE FIELD HEARINGS AND WE'RE GOING TO FRONT YARD. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I WAS ORDER ALLOW HAMBURGERS, NOT GOING BE INVITED AND WE COULD ASK EVERYTHING WE CAN BRING EVERYBODY THERE. SO THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT. SO THEY BROUGHT US BACK HERE. SO YOU KNOW WHERE IT'S STILL AN UPHILL BATTLE, THOUGH. I MEAN, EVERY EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. IT'S BEEN. >> DOES THIS MAKE YOU REALIZE THAT WE'RE NOT ALONE. I KNOW IT BEFORE. I GOT OUT AND MADE THIS I'M NOT SAYING ENOUGH. I'VE SEEN ENOUGH AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU ALL GET THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SEE I'M SAYI THAT THE HARD ENOUGH TO I MEAN, YOU HEARD THE TESTIMONY OF SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY REPRESENTED OVALS ASKED GREAT QUESTIONS. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE. >> SENIOR MILITARY PILOTS AND OFFICIALS SAYING THAT THEIR TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS FROM FROM HUMANS. >> AND ALSO YOU'VE GOT TO REALIZE 3 UNITED STATES CONGRESSMEN WERE DENIED DENIED BY OUR MILITARY. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO, WHAT TO DO. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON THAT PATH. BUT THINK IT SHOULD BE NOTED. YOU KNOW, I POSE THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, DOES YOU AP TECHNOLOGY POTENTIALLY POSE AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT NATIONAL SECURITY. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ALL 3 OF THE WITNESSES ANSWERED. YES, CONGRESS HAS A RESPONSIBILITY. NOW TO MOVE FORWARD AGGRESSIVELY TO GET IT DIDN'T GET TO THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS, EVEN IF IT'S IN A SECURE ENVIRONMENT WE NEED RIVERS AND GUYS WANT TO HEAR WHAT WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE SITUATION AT REVERSE ENGINEERING. OF COURSE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING WE HAVE NO SO IT'S LIKE I'M A MOTORCYCLE GAS ABOUT TO CARLI DAVIDSON ARE 1 OF THE NEW INDIANS AND TOOK IT BACK TO THE PEOPLE ON THE MAYFLOWER. YEAH, THEY CAN SHOUT THEY WOULD ABLE TO FIX A CARBURETOR WITH NO CHANGE I MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE GAS GOES. I MIGHT GET IT STARTED. BUT THAT'S SORT OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE REVERSE ENGINEERING. YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SO MUCH AHEAD OF US. BUT THE BUT THE QUESTION YOU HAVE TO AND IT WAS A LOAD INTO AND THERE WAS IT HAS BEEN HANDED OFF PEOPLE WITHIN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY SO THAT THERE IS NO POINT OUT THAT YOU ALL IN THE PRESS HAVE NO ACCESS. SO YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES THE LINE AND WHERE DOES IT BEGIN BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT AND BIG BUSINESS. AND I THINK IT BE WISE FOR YOU ALWAYS START LOOKING AT SOME FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES THAT SOME OF THOSE CORPORATION, SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE STONEWALLING WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE INTEL COMMUNITY'S WALKING. CONTINUE TO SEE THAT. AND QUESTION IS ABOUT YOU MENTIONED YOU LIKE PLAYING. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE LIKE. THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO GET IN THIS GIF AND GET SOME OF THOSE NAMES OF THESE FOLKS CAN STAY HEALTHY LONG ENOUGH. BUT AGAIN, HAD A PIECE OF LEGISLATION VERY SIMPLE AND JUST SAID I HAVE THAT WHEN WHEN A COMMERCIAL AIRLINE PILOT REPORTS CITING OR SOMETHING UNUSUAL ON NOT ONLY IN THE AIR. >> BUT WHEN HE REPORTS THAT THE FAA THEY REPORTED TO CONGRESS AND I WAS TOLD BY LEADERSHIP THAT IT WAS BLOCKED BY THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, NOT THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE. THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. AND THAT IS A VERY CHILLING EFFECT. IF YOU DID A GREAT SOMEONE CAN REACH TO THE VEIL OF GOVERNMENT AND PIERCE IT TO THE POINT OF WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO SOMETHING. YOU'VE GOT TO START ASKING YOURSELF WHO THE HELL'S IN CONTROL. BUT YOU ALSO SHOULD TO BE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. CAN YOU CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH AS NUMBERS. THAT'S FOR YOU RIGHT. SO PRESSURE ON WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ISLAND'S ONLY 5% OF OUR WELL, BECAUSE GATHERING MORE AND YOU'RE GOING TO WELL, MATT MATT, MATT GAETZ RELATED TO THAT KNEW WE WERE THERE AND THAT'S WHEN THE CIA FOLKS GOT A LITTLE NERVOUS WHEN WE'RE AWAY. WE WERE TALKING AND WHERE WHERE WE'RE TOLD THAT APPARENTLY THAT THEY DO DESTROY THE EVIDENCE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK AND BE PULLED OFF THE FLIGHT LINE. NOW THEY SAY THEY ARE YOU KNOW, THEIR KNEE BRACE, BUT IT'S 8 HOURS. THEY'RE INTERROGATED THERE PULL OFF THE BRIGHT LINE. THESE GUYS DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MONEY LINE UP 50 MILLION DOLLAR PIECE OF MACHINERY YET THEY'RE TREATED LIKE DOGS. AND THEN NOW ON THE BACKSIDE TO GET A BLEMISH ON THEIR RECORD. IS THIS MILITARY INTELLIGENCE. LIKE I SAID, MILITARY INTELLIGENCE IS LIKE CONGRESSIONAL ETHICS THAT DOESN'T MY OFFICE CAN ANSWER WILL GAIN INFORMATION, BUT WE GET EVERYTHING ROOM FOR US AS WELL AS MOSCOW GATES AS WELL AS REPRESENTATIVE BURCH AND YES, THAT WE WILL GET YOU THAT INFORMATION ON THIS BECOME A PARTY. I WILL. THEY. >> AND I'LL BE TALKING TO SPEAKER MCCARTHY. ACTUALLY. HE'S THE ONE GAVE THE GREEN LIGHT IN THIS AND AGE BECAUSE I WENT LOAN AND I WENT I MEAN, GOING ON WITH THE PERSON IN THERE. YOU HAVE ANY REASON TO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE FAR BUT THIS IS AIRCRAFT. AMERICANS. THIS COUNTRY HAS HAS APPARENTLY ACCORDING WITNESSES AND THEY THEY'VE RETRIEVED YET WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO IT THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS PROFITING FROM IT. >> I THINK CAN GET IN SOME. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE ESPIONAGE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I'D RATHER WE HAVE THAT THAN BEEN SHOT TO LIKE IT'S A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE TO IF THERE'S IT, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY, THIS BE REVERSE ENGINEER AND IT'S BEING DONE BY 3RD PARTY WHO ULTIMATELY OWNS AND HAS CONTROL OF THAT TECHNOLOGY. SO AGAIN, THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT CONGRESS SHOULD BE ASKING AND THAT WE GET ANSWERS TO THAT POINT. DAVID RUSH DID SAYING THERE THAT HE GAVE INFORMATION TO THE INSPECTORS GENERAL ABOUT WHE THESE THINGS ARE ALLEGED RELOCATED. >> DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. IT'S EITHER THAT'S GOING TO THAT THE MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE TODAY WILL LIKELY SIGN ON AS WELL AS ANY OTHER MEMBER, DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN TO GET THAT INFORMATION IN THE DISCO THAT THE TENSION. VISIT THOSE SITES WERE HAPPY. YEAH. 1 100% BEYOND WE'RE GOING TO FORMULATE SOME MORE MORE GET SOME LEGISLATION OUT OF BUT WHAT I HOPE HONESTLY WAS I WAS I'M SHOCKED, ACTUALLY JUST THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT CAME OUT BECAUSE ALL THE ROADBLOCKS THAT WE WERE PUT UP AGAINST SO YOU CAN HAVE I THINK WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NOW. THE FLOODGATES, OTHER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT SOME INFORMATION. I'D LIKE TO COME SWEAR IN. >> AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO START DOING. WE'RE GOING TO START TALKING TO PEOPLE. WE'RE GOING TO START NAMING NAMES. I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS. THINK ABOUT HAS BEEN ON SOMETHING WITH THE CAPABILITIES AND TRAVELING LIGHT YEARS NOT HEAT SIGNATURE AND THE ENERGY CAPABILITIES AND THAT THAT WOULD PUT THE PENTAGON OUT OF BUSINESS. WE WANT ME FIGHTING HIS WORK WAS WARS OVERSEAS OVER OIL AND AMERICAN BOYS AND GIRLS WOULDN'T BE DYED. IT WOULD PUT THE WAR PIGS OUT OF BUSINESS AND THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND I'M ALL FOR I'M ALL FOR ALL RIGHT, GUYS, THAT GOOD. >> IT'S I SEE HIM THERE STANDING BY ALONG WITH OUR PANEL OF LEADING EXPERTS. WE'VE GOT REPRESENTATIVE BURCH. IT WILL ALSO HAVE JOURNALISTS ROSCOE PART. JOINING US AMONG OTHERS AS WE SHARE BRAND NEW DOCUMENTS ENTERED INTO THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD ON RUSSIAN ENCOUNTERS WITH UFO'S. THEY'RE DOWNRIGHT CHILLING THERE. SO MUCH MORE TO CALM. NEW INTERVIEWS. COMING UP BAD. >> WELCOME BACK TO OUR SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS. WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE MAJOR MOMENTS FROM THIS WEEK'S HEARINGS. IT'S A LOT TO PROCESS SO MUCH HAS EVEN HAPPENED SINCE THEN, THOUGH, INCLUDING NEW ALLEGATIONS THAT RUSSIA ALSO HAS A SECRET U F O PROGRAM AND HAS EVEN SHOT AT UF OWES. I WANT TO WELCOME CONGRESSMAN TIM BURCHETT WHO IS REALLY AT THE FOREFRONT OF MAKING THE HEARINGS HAPPENED. YOU SAW HIM OVER THE LAST HOUR. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US, CONGRESSMAN, I WANT TO START WITH THIS NEW LETTER THAT WAS ENTERED INTO THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD FROM GEORGE KNAPP. THE INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST WITH THESE REALLY UNBELIEVABLE CLAIMS WITH RUSSIA AND THEIR U F O PROGRAM. HE HAS INFORMATION FROM A PROGRAM HEAD IN RUSSIA CALLED I NEED COLONEL BORIS SOKOLOV. IT SAYS SOKOLOV SAID THERE HAD BEEN 45 INCIDENTS IN WHICH RUSSIAN WARPLANES ENGAGE WITH PHONES. CHASE THEM, EVEN SHOT AT THEM. IN MOST RECENT INCIDENTS. THE UF OWNS SHOT AWAY AT UNBELIEVABLE SPEEDS. BEEN 3 INCIDENTS. THE RUIAN WARPLANES WERE DOUBLED AND CRASHED 2 OF THE PILOTS WERE KILLED. AND AFTER THOSE INCIDENTS. I THINK GO ON TO SAY THAT THERE WAS THIS NATIONWIDE ORDER THAT YOU SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE BECAUSE IN THE WORDS OF THE TOP AIR DEFENSE OFFICIAL. THEY HAVE INCREDIBLE CAPACITIES FOR RETALIATION. THAT'S A NEW EYE LETTER THAT'S BEEN ENTERED SINCE THE HEARINGS. CONGRESSMAN, I HAD HEARD THAT UP PRETTY UNBELIEVABLE. DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS, THIS RUSSIAN CONNECTION. WELL, AS YOU KNOW, , GEORGE KPP IS PROBABLY FOR MOST. >> EXPERT IN YOUR FIELD ON THIS ISSUE OF GRAHAM WE WOULD KNOW ABOUT. AREA 51 JUST THE RUMORS THAT WERE ABOUT IT. WE HE ACTUALLY BROKE THAT STORY AND MANY OTHERS AND HE'S STILL AN ACTIVE JOURNALIST. ANYTHING GEORGE COMES UP WITH. I'M NOT SURPRISED ABOUT. GEORGE IS ALSO A FRIEND OF MINE. I GUESS I SHOULD. SHOULD A SAY THAT TO THE RECORD. BUT YEAH, I THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN TALK ABOUT RUSSIA. OF COURSE, THE SECRECY AROUND IT. THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER THERE. BUT SURE. IT'S A LOT OF THAT AND THEY COVER A LOT OF GROUND OVER THERE. SO OBVIOUSLY THEY HAD SOME INSTANCES AND THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR IS A GREAT INTEREST YEAH. IT'S INTERESTING TO HEAR THAT THEY HAD THIS PROGRAM VERY, INTENSE PROGRAM SOPHISTICATED WHERE THEY WERE STUDYING US THOSE FOR YEARS. >> HE SAID THERE WAS A OTHER EVIDENCE ABOUT THE SECRET RUSSIAN THAT HE RECEIVED FROM FORMER SENATE MAJORITY LEADER HARRY REID. THEY WERE VERY, VERY CLOSE FOR YEARS AND GIVING EACH OTHER INFORMATION. HE SAYS YOU HAVE THOSE APPEARED OVER A RUSSIAN MISSILE BASE. THIS WAS ALSO INTERESTING AGAIN. NOW IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD YOU HAVE APPEARED OVER THE BASE PERFORMED ASTONISHING MANEUVERS IN FRONT OF STUNNED EYEWITNESSES AND THEN SOMEHOW TOOK CONTROL OF THE LAUNCH SYSTEM. THE MISSILES AIMED AT THE U.S. WAS SUDDENLY FIRED UP LAUNCH CONTROL CODES WERE SOMEHOW ENTERED IN THE BASE WAS UNABLE TO STOP WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN INITIATED WORLD WAR 3, THEN JUST AS SUDDENLY THE UFO DISAPPEARED AND THE LAUNCH CONTROL SYSTEM SHUT DOWN. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT NATIONAL SECURITY WITH THIS ISSUE. I MEAN THAT THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT UP RIGHT YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S ALL TRUE. AND AGAIN, YOU TALK ABOUT GEORGE IT'S REALLY ALARMING. WELL. >> WELL AND ODDLY ENOUGH IN A BIT LIKE THAT HAPPENED AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. YOU CAN RESEARCH AND I CAN'T RECALL THE THE NAME OF IT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S PRETTY BEEN PRETTY WELL DOCUMENTED THAT YOU HAVE CLOSURE CITED OVER A NUCLEAR INSTALLATION AND IT WAS COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN AND I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH IT. AND TO THIS DAY THEY'RE NOT SURE OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT BUT THERE ARE LINE AROUND IT. AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY ALLUDED TO AND AND INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES ONLY OPEN MEETING THAT THEY HAD CONCERNING THIS ISSUE WAS ASKED BY 1, 1, OF THE CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC INCIDENT. OF COURSE, THE GENTLEMAN WHO ARE HEADING UP THAT PROGRAM FOR THE PENTAGON COULD SPELL. YES, I WAS MUCH LESS PAY. THEY HAD NO CLUE WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. I'M SURE THEY WENT BACK AND AS THEIR GRANDKIDS AND THEIR GRANDKIDS 5 AGO GRANDDAD WE JUST SPENT THE LAST HOUR GOING OVER ALL OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE HEARING FROM WEDNESDAY. BUT WE TALK ABOUT THE NUCLEAR SITE, THERE'S SO MUCH THE DISH OR NOT. IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG. >> VERY MUCH SO. YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE GOING TO START. I WOULD HOPE THAT SPEAKER MCCARTHY AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WHAT I WOULD CONTACT THEIR LEGISLATORS AND SAY, HEY, ARE CONGRESSIONAL LEGISLATORS AND THEIR SENATORS SAY THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THE SERIOUS NATURE. WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE HECK'S GOING ON AND WHY ARE Y'ALL COVERING IT UP AND WHY DO WE KEEP FUNDING THE PENTAGON THAT LIVES OVER A BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR THAT IS NEVER PASSED. AN AUDIT. YEAH. THEY'RE COMING TO US NOW, WHICH BRING IN SOME MEMBERS HERE. HEY, WE NEED TO STUDY THIS. WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF THIS. SEND US MORE MONEY WHEN IN FACT THEY'VE BEEN ASLEEP AT THE SWITCH AND NOT WELL, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ASLEEP AT THE SWITCH. THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON THERE ARE ALREADY FOR LIKE THEY'RE ALREADY ASKING FOR MORE MONEY AFTER THE HEARINGS. WASHER. THEY'VE ALREADY WELL, LOOK AT CHUCK SCHUMER'S BILL THAT'S GOING TO COST MONEY. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO COST MONEY. I'VE SAID ALL ALONG NASA PENTAGON. OF OUR DEPART DEPARTMENT OF STANCE. TURNLEY SURE. FILES QUIT SENDING A REDACTED FILES. IT LOOK LIKE A PIECE OF SWISS CHEESE LIKE SOMEBODY SHOT IT WITH A 12 GAUGE SHOTGUN. YOU CAN'T MAKE OUT HEADS OR TAILS. MAYBE THAT DAY. AND THAT'S ABOUT IT ON IT. AND THEY DON'T YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT JUST CONTINUED. THEY COVERED UP THE LEGISLATION. I HAD TO JUST SAID IF YOU'RE A COMMERCIAL AIRLINE PILOT AND YOU I'M GOING TO SEND REPORT. FAA NAMO CITING ARE YOU A WHAT HAD TO BE THAT REPORT BE SENT TO CONGRESS YET. IT WAS BLOCKED BY THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. THESE PEOPLE THAT DO NOT. I HAVEN'T ELECTED OR NOT ELECTED APPOINTED PERCENT 9 SOME DESK OVER THERE AT THE PENTAGON OR SOMEWHERE AND THEY'RE MAKING THE DECISIONS AND THEY'RE LAUGHING AT US. THEY'RE LAUGHING AT US BECAUSE I KNOW WE DO LISTEN, I WHAT HAVE HEARD IN CONGRESS. THERE'S A COUPLE JIM JORDAN MYSELF IN SOME MATTERS THAT IN SAID AND GATES. WE'VE ALL SAID THAT. THAT WE NEED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PENTAGON. BUT YOU KNOW, SOME POINT WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT TO CUT OFF THEIR MONEY. YES, INTEREST IN CONGRESS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SEEMS TO STRUCK A NERVE WITH PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. WE DON'T SEE AGREEMENT A LOT, BUT IT IS WITH THIS IS THE POSSIBILITY OF THIS SECRET GOVERNMENT PROGRAM IN THE MONEY WHERE THE FUNDS COMING ALEXANDRIA OCASIO CORTEZ SOMEONE THAT YOU DON'T NORMALLY AGREE WITH. SHE SPOKE OUT ON ON WEDNESDAY. ALSO, SHE THEN WENT ON SOCIAL MEDIA VERY CONCERNED. >> WHO'S FUNDING THESE PROGRAMS. I WANT TO PLAY WHAT WHAT SHE SAID SOCIAL MEDIA AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT. >> DO I THINK SOMETHING IS GOING ON. YES, THERE WERE SPECIFIC DEFENSE CONTRACTOR'S NAME. THERE WERE PROGRAMS THAT WERE BEING ABUSED THAT WERE NAMED. DO I THINK THERE ARE GROUNDS TO PULL ON THAT THREAD. YES, I DO. AND I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE PULLED FURTHER. DO I KNOW WHAT IT IS. NOW. ALWAYS INTERESTED IN CORRECTION AND COVER UPS. LIKE THAT'S MY THING. >> I SAW YOUR TWEET THIS MORNING, CONGRESSMAN, WE RE TWEETED THAT YOU SAID YOUR FRIEND WAS ON ON TO SOMETHING THAT THERE'S SOMETHING SHADY GOING ON. YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF HEAT FROM FROM SOME OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS, CALLING HER YOUR FRIEND. BUT IT IS INTERESTING THAT HAVE AGREED HAVE AGREEMENT ON THIS ISSUE. >> YEAH. WE'RE DONE. BUT HE SAID WE BOTH KIND OF CONGRESS THE SAME TIME, I COLOR COURT AS SHE COMES CHAT. WE'RE FINE. I DON'T YOU KNOW, I I'M NOT GOING TO GO TO NEW YORK CITY AND GET HER MAKE SURE TEACHERS AT GUN COMPANIES TENNESSEE A BAIT AND SO WE'RE FRIENDS. AND IT'S IT'S A IT'S A GOOD RELATIONSHIP. YOU AND I WAS ENCOURAGED BY HER LOT OF QUESTIONS AND YOU SAW MY SECOND OR LOT OF QUESTIONS. I JUST WENT DOWN THAT LIST AND I AND I GOT DOWN TO THE POINT OF WHERE. THAT THAT EXACTLY IS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. MAYOR MAYOR. ADDING MONEY OR WHAT HAVE YOU, IT'S UNCHECKED MONEY. THEY'RE OVERCHARGING PEOPLE FOR STAFF AND THEY'RE USING THAT MONEY FOR SOMETHING ELSE. AND WHAT THE THEY'RE USING IT FOR. WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S COVERING UP THE BIGGEST ISSUE. THAT'S THAT WILL FACE US IN OUR LIFETIME. AND THAT IS IS THERE LIFE OUT THERE AND DO WE KNOW ABOUT IT. YEAH. IT'S IT'S THE QUESTION THAT HAS FASCINATED. YOU MENTIONED DURING THE HEARINGS THAT YOU WANTED TO GET DAVID AGGRESSION TO A SKIFF. >> TO GET MORE INFORMATION ARE THEIR PLANS AND THAT HAPPEN. YEAH. AS YOU MY FRIEND REPRESENTATIVE LEARNED FROM FROM FLORIDA. AND YOU KNOW, SHE THAT WAS HER HER SHE WAS IN CHARGE OF THAT AND SHE WAS DENIED IT TO NO AROUND. AND I I'M TRYING TO GET AN APPOTMENT WITH THE SPEAKER SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THE HECK'S GOING ON. WE'VE GOT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS. YOU KNOW, YOU, KATE, BRUSH THIS UNDER THE CARPET. IT'S NOT IT'S GOING TO STAKE AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME UNGLUED AND THEY SHOULD FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WE'LL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. EVENTUALLY I JUST HOPE IT'S IN MY LIFETIME. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE GOVERNMENT CONTRACTORS, NEWSNATION. WE REACHED OUT TO EVERY GOVERNMENT CONTRACTOR. WE COULD THINK OF LOCKHEED MARTIN IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY KNOW ABOUT YOU AP STARTED BEING FUNDED. LOCKHEED MARTIN DID WRITE US BACK VERY SIMPLE STATEMENT JUST SAID QUESTIONS ABOUT PEAS ARE BEST ADDRESSED BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WHAT GET THAT. >> WELL, I MAY. YOU CAN'T DO IT FOR YOUR QUESTION FOR FOLKS WATCHING. THAT'S A FREEDOM OF YOU CAN ASK FOR THAT FROM A PRIVATE BUSINESS NEWARK AND I AS A CONGRESSMAN. SO WHAT THEY DO IS IT'S KIND OF HAND IN GLOVE. IT'S BEEN HANDED OFF TO THESE BUSINESSES. >> SINCE THE 40'S. I GUESS. AND THAT THAT SORT OF SHIELDS IT FROM FROM US AND THEY GET THE SWEETHEART CONTRACTS DOING. WHO KNOWS WHAT AND THEY'RE THE ONES RESEARCHING SO COMPARTMENTALIZE THE PEOPLE OUT WORKING ON IT PROBABLY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON THEIR WORKING ON ANALYZING A PIECE OF METAL WORK. SOME OTHER. MY LOGICAL. AND TODAY THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH. YEAH. AND SO IF IT KEEPS IT VERY COMPARTMENTALIZED. AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO START IN THE MAY START IS PUBLIC RECORD AND AND THE PUBLIC TO START LOOKING AT THESE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES OF THESE ELECTED OFFICIALS, THE ONES THAT ARE TOP POSITIONS AND JUST SEE WHAT GRAVY TRAIN THEIR ON AND STAND. MIGHT SEE WHY THEY DON'T PUSH PUSH THE ENVELOPE ON ANY OF THESE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. WHAT'S INTERESTING, IT'S NOT HARD TO FIGURE OUT THE ONES THAT DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT OR DON'T WRITE US BACK OR DON'T WANT TO DO. THE INTERVIEWS ARE NOWHERE THE HEARING ROOM WHEN THESE THINGS GO GO ON AND YOU KNOW, DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO FIGURE THAT OUT. ONE QUICK NOTE. I WONDERED ABOUT CONGRESSMAN, I INTERVIEWED YOU ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE THE HEARINGS AND YOU SAID YOU THOUGHT THERE WAS GOING TO ABOUT HALF A DOZEN WITNESSES. 6 WITNESSES. >> WE ENDED UP SEEING THE 3 DEMANDS IS WAS THERE A PLAN TO HAVE MORE. ABSOLUTELY. WE HAD ONE TELL US THAT HE'D RECEIVED A CALL FROM. I GUESS MAYBE TAKE THE AND HE DECIDED HERE SHE DECIDED THAT MAYBE IT WASN'T BEST THAT THEY ARE ON THERE. WE HAD SOMEBODY WAS AN AFFILIATION WITH NASA AND NATIONAL SAY, WELL, THEY DID WORK FOR NASA. AND THIS IS NOT THIS IS NEWS TO US, BUT. >> IT WAS ONE OF THEIR I SOMETHING I DO NOW. BUT ANYWAY AND THEY THEY TURNED US OR THEY BACKED OUT AT THE END. AND THEN WE HAD WE HAD ONE MORE. I THINK THAT BACKED OUT AND YOU KNOW, JUST HAD SO MANY ROADBLOCKS ARE MADE IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE. YOU KNOW, WE WERE GOING TO A PRESS CONFERENCE TO TALK ABOUT THIS MYSELF AND 3 OTHERS AND IREPORTER. ACTUALLY ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES PUT HIS MICROPHONE DOWNIT'S OBVIOUSLY BEEN A REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE AND SAID, HEY, ARE YOU ALL HAVE IT. YOU HAVE THIS PRESS CONFERENCE, RIGHT. I SAID, TOMORROW. I THINK WHENEVER HE SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY PUT YOU IN A ROOM THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND THAT IS IN HIS TINY. I SAID THIS IS THIS IS A BIG DEAL. YOU NEED TO PAY IN THE MINOR AND THAT'S THE HECK'S GOING ON. SO I GOT TO CHECK. AND SURE ENOUGH AND YOU KNOW, AND STAFF MEMBERS BLOCKED, YOU KNOW, TELL US IT. DAVID WASN'T RELIABLE. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THEIR POSITION TO DO THAT. SO THAT IS THE SWAMP. YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY WHISPERING IN THEIR EAR. SOME CONTRACTOR, SOME FOR AND ARE OR SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, IN CONGRESS IS COMPROMISED BECAUSE OF THE DAY THEY WENT ON A TRIP OVERSEAS AND LET THEIR GUARD DOWN ENDED UP GETTING FILM DOING SOMETHING THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN AND THAT'S EXACTLY. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE RUSSIANS WOULD DO WHEN HONEY POTS IN OUR OWN PEOPLE WOULD DO IT JUST AS WELL. THEY'RE JUST AND AND SO I YOU KNOW. IT'S THING JUST STINKS FROM TOP TO BOTTOM AROUND EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. THEY FOUGHT US WHAT JUST I'M JUST CURIOUS IS ONE OF THAT WHAT YOU SAID BECAUSE I'M VERY INTERESTED >> ONE OF THE WITNESSES THAT BACKED OUT AT THE LAST SECOND. YOU SAID THE PENTAGON MADE A CALL WAS THAT SOMEONE WHO WAS ALSO A WHISTLEBLOWER. SOME OF YOU HAD LIKE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF SOMETHING. >> YEAH. WE THOUGHT THEY DID. YOU KNOW, WE GET THESE NAMES AND I GET NAMES BECAUSE I'M IN. I MEANT ON THIS. THIS ISSUE FOR YEARS MAYBE 40 SURE I WAS A KID 50 YEARS. I GUESS. AND SO THESE NAMES KEEP POPPING UP IN THE EU. YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT ANY RESEARCH IN THERE. THEY'RE DECORATED VETERANS AND THEY WANT TO TALK AND THEY MIGHT WANT TO TALK AND THEN YOU YOU GET A HOLD OF THEM. I SAY INTACT, YES, I DO WANT TO COME TALK AND THEN I LO AND BEHOLD, THEY START BACKING OUT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M I'M TOLD BY RELIABLE PEOPLE I NEED TO BE CAREFUL AND AND, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING. AND AND YOU KNOW, THEIR CONGRESS MEMBERS TELLING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY THAT ACTUALLY HAD SEVERAL CONGRESSMAN. WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE CONGRESSMAN TELLING THEY'VE HAD SIGHTINGS AND THERE THEY DESCRIBE SOME. PRETTY INTERESTING THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED TO THEM IN AND YOU KNOW, AND AND BUT THEY THEY WANT TO AS THEY WANT TO COME TALK ABOUT. AND I SAID NOW WE WANT TO BE ANONYMOUS. BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M I'M NOT AGAINST YOU ON THIS SAME BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT I THINK I COULD NOT DESCRIBE THINK THERE'S STILL AN EMBARRASSMENT FACTOR, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S CHANGE. CONGRESSMAN GOING NOT JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR COMING ON TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR BEING SO OPEN WITH US THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS. >> AND AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING MORE IN CONTINUING DEBT TO COVER THE TOPIC. THANKS FOR COMING ON. THANK YOU, BRIAN. YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL ME INTO ONE FOR YOU ALL AT NEWS NATION, THIS THING WILL PROBABLY WHAT NUMBER OAK BECOME SEVERE PERSISTENT. >> NATURE ON THIS ISSUE. AND IT IS VERY OVER HALF OF AMERICANS THINKS WE'RE NOT ALONE. AND I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE IN GOD'S GREAT INCREDIBLE UNIVERSE WHERE THE BEST HE CAN DO. YEAH, WELL, WE'LL STAY ON. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT ELSE COMES OUT. I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING ON. CONGRESSMAN, I WANT TO BRING IN OUR PANEL DISCUSS ALL THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN PO PORCH FOR THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATING UFO'S AND THEN HANSEN IS A FORMER FBI AGENT ALSO INVESTIGATES UFO SIGHTINGS. THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING WITH GREAT TO SEE YOU IN PERSON FOR ONCE. I WAS YOU GUYS, SAW SOME FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO ASK YOU, VERY INTERESTING. THAT'S THE FIRST I'VE HEAEARD HIM SAY THAT. >> I WAS WONDERING BECAUSE HE TOLD ME A WEEK BEFORE THE HEARINGS. THEY WERE EXPECTING 6 AND THEN IT WENT DOWN TO 3 AND I WAS WONDERING, CAN SOMEONE GET INTIMIDATED AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. >> AND THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR THAT KIND OF BEHIND THE WE ALWAYS HEAR THE RUMORS OF WHO THE WITNESSES MIGHT BE BECAUSE WE KNOW OTHERS WERE INTERVIEWED. I MEAN BOTH NICK AND I KNOW BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF ACT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. WE'RE EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM THE MOUNTS FROM CASE. AND WITNESSES THERE THAT WITNESS TO THE 1967 MISSILE SHUT DOWN. ALL RIGHT. THAT DOVETAILS EXACTLY GEORGE NOT JUST CAME I DO BELIEVE, THOUGH, THERE IS PLENTY OF FOR THE NEXT HEARINGS. WE'RE GOING HEAR FROM SOME OF THESE OTHER WITNESSES. >> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF NICK THIS THIS NEW INFORMATION THAT CAME OUT OF GEORGE NAPS LETTER INVOLVING RUSSIA. I MEAN, THAT REALLY TAKES IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL THAT THEY'VE HAD 47 COUNTERS, THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAD A U F O SHUT DOWN. I MISSILE BASE AT 1 POINT REALLY ALARMING STUFF. YEAH. IT'S A TIMELY REMINDER THAT THIS IS A GLOBAL PHENOMENON AND SETTING LEE RUSSIA HAD AND STILL HAS A PROGRAM LOOKING AT THIS. CHINA HAS A PROGRAM LOOKING AT IT. THE UK, OF COURSE, WE'RE RIGHT. >> I WORKED. I MEAN, I ENTREAT THAT THERE ARE MISSILES BEING SHOT DOWN THERE ARE MISSILES BEING PUT INTO THAT PRE LAUNCH SEQUENCE. MOST DISTURBING. WELL, ALMOST ALMOST AS DISTURBING. THESE SHUTDOWNS. ALL THESE ATTEMPTED SHOOT TOWNS. I'VE HEARD 3 PREVIOUS STORIES BUT NOT FROM RUSSIA. ONE ACTUALLY FROM THE UK OF A COUGH OR TO TO SHOOT DOWN THE MOVED OFF ONCE FROM IRAN. WAY AT THE CROFT SYSTEMS WITH DISABLED AND 1 FROM PERU WHERE HE DID SHOOT THE THING AND HE SAID THE ROUNDS IT HIT IT. BUT GOD, I'M SO FASCINATED TO HIT THE RUSSIAN CASES TO ITS INTERESTING ON THE HEAD OF ARROW, WHICH IS THE ALL-DOMAIN ANOMALY RESOLUTION OFFICE. THE PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INVESTIGATING. FOES. >> THEY APPARENTLY DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY THEY CAME ACROSS DURING THIS HEARING AND DOCTOR PARKER. PATRICK WAS THE HEAD OF PUT OUT A PERSONAL STATEMENT. IT WAS IN A STATEMENT OFFICIALLY THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT WAS ACTUALLY ON HIS LINKEDIN, WHICH IS KIND OF INCHING PUT THIS PERSON THAT I WANT TO READ YOU A PART OF IT BECAUSE HE SEEMED VERY, VERY UPSET ABOUT THE HEARING IS THAT I'M DEEPLY DISAPPOINTED AT THE DENIGRATION OF ARROWS. A DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN HANDLING FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND CIVIL PARTNERS. WE'RE POURING THEIR HEARTS OUT WORKING THIS ISSUE ON BEHALF OF CONGRESS FINALLY, TO BE CLEAR, ARROW HAS YET TO FIND ANY CREDIBLE EVIDENCE SUPPORT. THE ALLEGATIONS OF ANY REVERSE ENGINEERING PROGRAM FOR NOT HUMAN TECHNOLOGY. SEEMS LIKE HE WAS PERSONALLY OFFENDED BY WHAT THE WITNESSES SAID. WHEN YOU MAKE SO I WANT TO FOR A COUPLE DAYS NOW. AND I'M TRYING TO PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE BECAUSE I DO THINK IT HEART PATRICK IS DOING THE BEST HE KNOWS HOW RIGHT. BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER HE CAME OUT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. >> CALL PAPER WITHOUT THE LOVE. THE HARVARD PROFESSOR RIGHT. MAINSTREAM MEDIA TALKED A LOT OF THEM AND SAID THE HEADLINE WAS, YOU KNOW, HARVARD PROFESSOR AND DIRECTOR OF OF ARROW CLAIM THAT THERE'S A MOTHER SHIP, POSSIBLY ORBITI EARTH THAT WAS AND WHAT THE THE PREMISE OF THE PAPER WAS. AND SO THAT WAS HIS INITIATION INTO THIS. AND SO NOW HE FEELS LIKE THIS IS BASICALLY AN EX PARTE HEARING. SO THE OTHER PRESIDENT AND THEY SAY SOME THINGS HE FELT OFFENDED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS IT IN HIS MIND. BUT I THINK HE SPOKE OUT OF DEFENSE AND THEY'RE WALKING IT BACK. JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS A GOOD LOVE COMING WHEN THAT'S NOT. THAT'S WE'VE GOT TO GO TO A QUICK BREAK ON. WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE TO OVER THE >> HALF AN HOUR OR MORE WHISTLEBLOWERS. COULD THEY BE COMING FOR THE SPECIAL PILOTS KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT COMING UP NEXT. RYAN GRAVES, A FIGHTER PILOT TESTIFIE >> RECOGNIZE THE SKEPTICISM SURROUNDING THIS TOPIC. IF EVERYONE CAN SEE THE CENTER AND VIDEO DATA EYEWITNESS OUR NATIONAL CONVERSATION WITH CHANGE. OR JUST PUT ASIDE STATEMENT ADDRESSED THE SECURITY AND SAFETY ISSUE. THIS TOPIC REPRESENTS IF YOU APPEAR FOREIGN DRONES IS AN URGENT NATIONAL SECURITY PROBLEM. IF IT IS SOMETHING ELSE IS AN ISSUE FOR SCIENCE. >> TAKES A LOT OF BRAVERY TO COME FORWARD, ESPECIALLY AS A MEMBER OF THE MILITARY AND SPEAK PUBLICLY ABOUT SEEN UF. ALRIGHT NEXT GUEST. RYAN GRAVES TESTIFIED AT WEDNESDAY'S HEARING. SHE'S ON THERE. WHAT HE SAW WHILE PILOTING AN F 18. HE'S BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN ENCOURAGING OTHER PILOTS I TO SPEAK OUT. RYAN JOINS ME LIVE NOW. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. RYAN AND I'M SURE BEEN A FEW DAYS SINCE THE HEARINGS PILOTS FEEL COMFORTABLE COMING TO YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION. HAVE YOU SEEN AN INCREASE IN PEOPLE COMING FORWARD WITH STORIES. HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ESPECIALLY INTERESTING IN THE LAST COUPLE DAYS. >> ABSOLUTELY. YOU'RE CORRECT. SO YES, NC HEARING THERE HAVE BEEN AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE COMING TO SAY PARENTS BASED ON OREGON AND JOINING BOTH. AS PILOTS AS PEOPLE JUST WANT TO SUPPORT THIS CONVERSATION AND ALL THOSE PILOTS HAVE SHARED THEIR THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF COMMERCIAL PILOTS HAVE RECENTLY SIGNED UP TO HAVE AND CONFIRMING SOME OF THE SIGHTINGS THAT I SPOKE ABOUT AS WELL SHARING SOME NEW DATA ABOUT POTENTIALLY SOME NEW CASES. SO WE CERTAINLY HAVE WORK CUT OUT FOR US. >> AN INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT SINCE THE HEARINGS. RYAN THE ARROWHEAD DOCTOR KIRKPATRICK COMING FORWARD WITH THIS. THE STATEMENT THAT I JUST READ A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO. REALLY NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE HEARINGS CALLING OUT DAVID DID THAT SURPRISE YOU. WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THAT. LIKE HERE. HERE'S THE STATEMENT AGAIN SAYING HE WAS DEEPLY WERE YOU SURPRISED TO SEE HIM COME OUT WITH THAT STATEMENT ON HIS LEAD IN. >> JUST POINTED TO TO SEE HIM COME OUT THAT WHAT I'M I BE DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR IF HE I THOUGHT THAT HEARING ANYWAY WAS A SLIGHT ON ANY OF THE MAN OR WOMAN THAT WE'RE SERVING UNDER ARROW, THAT HE'S WORKED WITH. I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD WOULD SPEAK POORLY TO ANY OF THE STAFF. I INK THERE'S PROBABLY JUST VACATIONING FOR CAUSING CALLING IMPROVEMENT TO THE OFFICE AND THERE ARE OTHER THAT THEY DON'T SHARE THUS FAR. SO I HOPE THAT THAT MESSAGE GOT THROUGH. CLEARLY, I'M JUST CURIOUS. YOU'VE BEEN OUTSPOKEN. YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF INTERVIEWS OVER THE YEARS. >> WHAT DID IT FEEL LIKE? YOU KNOW, TESTIFYING IN CONGRESS, FEEL I MEAN, YOU TOLD THE STORY MANY TIMES, BUT DID IT FEEL DIFFERENT BEING UNDER OATH AND ON THE RECORD. I MEAN, IT WAS IT WAS OBVIOUSLY JUST SUCH A HISTORIC MOMENT. I IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DESCRIBE IT WAS IT WAS QUITE THE EVEN JUST FROM THE MOMENT WE OPEN THE BACK DOORS AND CAME OUT. >> HONESTLY KIND OF LOST MY BREATH FOR MOMENT. BUT, YOU KNOW, SITTING THERE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAD SPOKEN TO THE FOREIGN FOR ME IT WAS. A STORY THAT I HAD CONSIDERED FOR A WHILE AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH SO FOR ME TO BE OATH IN A WAY WAS ALMOST EMPOWERING THAT I COULD SHOW PEOPLE THAT I WAS BEING AS HONEST AS I FELL. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. MATT GAETZ, YOU HEARD HIM TALK AP INCIDENT. GLENN AIR FORCE BASE SAID HE SAW A RADAR IMAGE NOW WANTS THAT IMAGE TO BE RELEASED IS ASKING FOR A SUBPOENA TO FORCE THEM TO RELEASE THAT IMAGE DOES. DOES THAT SOUND AT ALL LIKE WHAT YOU SAW. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF REPRESENTATIVE GAETZ STORY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT THE AT THE BASE. THERE. >> THOUGHT WAS VERY INTERESTING IN ACTUALLY DID REMIND ME VERY MUCH OF THE FLEET OF OBJECTS THAT WAS SE IN THE VICINITY OF THE GIMBAL INCIDENT. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WASN'T SEEN ON THE FLIR FOOTAGE BUT WAS SEEN ON THE RADAR DATA ON THE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS PAGE. AND YOU CAN HEAR THE PILOTS SPEAK TO IT. REPRESENTATIVE GAETZ SPOKE TO THAT PARTICULAR IN FLORIDA. IT REMIND ME OF THE SAME INTO WHAT WAS EVEN MORE INTERESTING IS JUST HOW HOW POSITIVE THE CONGRESSMAN WAS THAT WHAT HE IS SEEING. IMAGE WAS OF WAS WAS NOT OURS. >> ONE THING I WONDER, TOO. I HEARD DAVID OVER AND OVER AGAIN. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION THAT HE CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT WITH THEM AND A SKIFF YOU KNOW, CONFIDENTIAL ENVINMENT IS THERE STUFF THAT, YOU KNOW, INSIDE THAT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO TALK ABOUT HER BECAUSE IT WAS SORT OF A FIRSTHAND ACCOUNT. WHEN YOU WERE PILOTING F 18, IT'S ALL JUST OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. >> WHEN I FIRST THAT'S FIGHT MY CASE AND I SPOKE ABOUT BEHIND CLOSED DOOR. THERE WAS CLASSIFIED INFORMATION RELATING TO OUR WEAPONS AND RANGES WERE BE CONSIDERERED CLASSIFIED NOW, HOWEVER, THERE WOULD BE NO INFORMATION RELATED TO P OR RELATED TO THE SECURITY CLASSIFICATION GUIDELINES OR TO FIND THROUGH SECURITY CLASSIFICATION GUIDELINES SPECIFICALLY FOR UP THEMSELVES. SO I WAS NEVER READ INTO ANY AP PROGRAM OR ANYTHING LIKE LIKE MISTER GRGRESH IS EXPERIENCED MAKE SENSE. WILL RYAN. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING ON TONIGHT. IT WAS REALLY SOMETHING TO SEE YOU TESTIFYING ON WEDNESDAY. HOPEFULLY YOU'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT OF REST OF THAT. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU WORK ALL THE THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING ON WITH US TONIGHT. >> OK. PERHAPS ONE OF THE MOST ALARMING THINGS TO COME OUT OF THE HEARINGS WAS THAT YOUR PHONES MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE FRIENDLY. IN FACT, THERE'S EVIDENCE. >> THAT THEY HAVE EVEN SHOWN AGGRESSION AT CERTAIN TIMES IN >> WELL, SOMEONE CAN REACH TO THE VEIL OF GOVERNMENT AND PIERCE IT TO THE POINT OF WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO SOMETHING. YOU'VE GOT TO START ASKING YOURSELF WHO THE HELL'S IN CONTROL. >> CALLS TO UNCOVER AN ALLEGED COVER UP ON CAPITOL HILL. WELCOME BACK TO OUR SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE HERE. I WANT TO BRING BACK OUR PANEL. I'M NICK POPE WORKED FOR THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATING UFO'S AND BEN HANSEN ALSO FORMER FBI AGENT NOW ALSO INVESTIGATE SIGHTINGS. I WILL START WITH YOU, NIC. YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A LOT OF FRIENDS AND FAMILY OPENED FOLLOWING OUR COVERAGE OF THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS WHO JUST SAY LOOK LIKE UNTIL I CAN SEE THE EVIDENCE FOR MYSELF UNTIL I CAN SEE THE PICTURES. I JUST THEY DON'T BELIEVE JUST, YOU KNOW, HEARING PEOPLE, PEOPLE STORIES. >> I GET A LOT. I MEAN, I FEEL THE SAME. BUT I MEAN, STILL EVEN IN THESE DAYS OF FORENSICS AND DNA EVIDENCE EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY STILL LIES AT THE HEART OF THE CRIMINALAL JUSTICEYSTEM. SO WE WE CAN YOU KNOW, WE MUST LISTEN TO THAT. BUT YEAH, CONGRESS IS WORKING TO TRY AND VALIDATE I WAS INTRIGUED IN THE HEARING WET DAVID CRUSH WAS VERY SPECIFIC. AND AND WHEN HE WAS AUST, WHO DO WE NEED TO GET IN THE ROOM. WHO DO WE NEED TO WITH AREA AGENCIES CORPORATIONS. HE SAID I WILL GIVE YOU A LIST OF HOSTILE AND FRIENDLY WITNESS. IT WAS A GOOD QUESTION. IT WAS A GREAT AND HE SAID HE WILL DO IT OFF TO THE HEARING. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT LIST BECAUSE THAT WILL TELL US WHERE TO LOOK FOR THESE PROGRAMS. YEAH. ASKED MYSELF OVER AND OVER WHY WOULD THESE GUYS LIKE ME WITH THEIR HISTORY. >> YOU KNOW, TOP MILITARY OFFICIALS DOES DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT THEY WOULD JUST SUDDENLY MAKE ALL THIS UP. I WANT PLAY A SOUND BITE FROM THE DAVID GRESH INTERVIEW HE DID WITH US. SOMETHING THAT WAS KIND OF ALARMING WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL THAT THAT YOU A PIECE COULD ACTUALLY BE AGGRESSIVE WILL LISTEN TO AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. >> I THINK TOLD THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TAPES TO BRING DOWN. WE'VE ACTED DEFENSIVELY AGAINST KNOWN HUMAN CRACK. >> THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES IN. THERE ARE A CERTAIN TECHNIQUES HAVE HUMAN BEINGS BEING WHO KILLED. WELL, I HUMAN INTELLIGENCE WHILE I CAN'T GET INTO THE SPECIFICS BECAUSE THAT WOULD REVEAL A CERTAIN US CLASSIFIED AND OPERATIONS. I WAS BRIEFED BY A FEW INDIVIDUALS ON THE PROGRAM THAT THERE A LEVEL OF EVENTS LIKE THAT. >> I MEAN, BEN, THAT THAT'S SCARY TO HEAR. I MEAN, YEAH, IT'S SCARY. YOU KNOW, DON'T WANT IT TO BE TRUE. I MEAN, IS IS THIS SOMETHING WE'VE KNOWN. YOU'VE BEEN STUDYING THIS FOR A LONG TIME. LONG BEFORE ME IS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT. >> WELL, THE PROBLEM IS A LOT OF THIS IS RUMORED THAT WE CAN'T DOCUMENT. AND SO IF IF DAVID RUSH HAS INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE SPECTACULAR, BUT WE CAN GO BACK AS FAR AS WHAT WE CALL THE RED ALERT, DC AND 52 ALL RIGHT. 2 WEEKENDS OVER JULY. THESE OBJECTS WOULD SHOW UP AND THEN SCATTER WOMEN SCRAMBLE JETS. I HAVE INFORMATION I CAN'T VERIFY YET, BUT THE WE ACTUALLY LOST A JET THAT NIGHT. NOW EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT SHOOTING THEM DOWN. THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS. IT'S NO GAME WHEN YOU SCRAMBLE JETS, YOU KNOW ALREADY TO GO AFTER SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU'RE FLYING EXTREME SPEEDS THAT ALONE IS DANGEROUS RIGHT NOW. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT THAT MIGHT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN SHOT DOWN. BURCHETT SAID HE SAW SOMETHING THAT MADE HIM FEEL AS IF THEY HAVE THE WEAPONRY TO TURN US INTO. I THINK YOU SAID BEARCATS. YEAH. CHARCOAL. YEAH, RIGHT. SO THAT AUTOMATICALLY SHOULD MAKE THIS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE INTENTIONS OF WHOEVER THEY ARE. WHAT'S THIS NUCLEAR ON THE INCIDENT, NICK, THAT THAT WE HEAR PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT WAS THERE AN INCIDENT IN THE NUCLEAR PLANT. >> THE CONGRESSMEN KIND OF AL. YEAH IT. IT'S LONG BEEN CLAIMED THAT THERE'S A CONNECTION BETWEEN UEFA AND UK WEAPONS AND UP IN A SERIES OF INCIDENTS WHERE THE HAVE BEEN SIGHTINGS OF A. >> A NUCLEAR POWER PALMS MISSILE SILOS AND SUCH LIKE AND ONE OF THE MEN MALSTROM FORCE BASE IN 1967 A NUMBER OF THE MISSILES WHEN THERE WAS A U F O OVER THE FACILITY APPARENTLY WENT OFFLINE. WELL, WHATEVER WE THINK COURSE THAT THEY WILL BE A PAPER TRAIL AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT. I MEAN, WE THOUGHT WE QUESTIONS ABOUT DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY. THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT. THEY LOOPED INTO THIS. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT THAT WE GET THIS INFORMATION DECLASSIFIED AND OF COURSE THATS ONE OF THE THINGS GOING FORWARD THAT'S GOING TO BE IN AMENDMENT TO THE NEW DEFENSE BILL. >> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. BROUGHT THIS LETTER OUT AGAIN FROM GEORGE KNAPP. WHAT YOU PUT INTO THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD TALK ABOUT THIS ADVANCED WEAPON SYSTEM APPLICATION PROGRAM. IT'S THIS SECRET PROGRAM THAT APPARENTLY HARRY REID KNEW ABOUT AND HE'S SAYING LIKE GO BACK AND GET ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS NOW LIKE THAT. THESE PEOPLE NEED TO GO BACK AND GET THE DOCUMENTS. I'M CURIOUS, BEEN YOU'VE BEEN AT A LIKE A PILOT'S CONFERENCE ESSENTIALLY IN WISCONSIN FOR THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS TALKING THE PILOTS WE HAD YOU ON BANFIELD A COUPLE OF NIGHTS. WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED FROM THE ARE ARE MORE PILOTS COMING FORWARD WITH STORIES SALUTE. SO I GOT THERE WEDNESDAY. SO RIGHT AFTER THE HEARING, TOPPING THE MORNING. >> AND WE HAD A WE HAD A LINE OF PEOPLE. SEVERAL PEOPLE DEEP EVERY 5 MINUTES I WAS GETTING REPORTS FROM PEOPLE IN SOME OF THEM REALLY EXTRAORDINARY. I'M TALKING ABOUT STUFF THAT I'M GOING TO BE TALKING TO RYAN GRAVES THIS WEEK. I'M GOING TO BE TALKING HOPEFULLY TO BURCHETT PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BECOME WHISTLEBLOWERS BECAUSE SOME OF THESE HAPPENED. THERE ARE NAVY SHIPS, SOME OF THESE THINGS HAPPENED WITH COMMERCIAL PILOTS. REALLY EXTRAORDINARY. JUST NEEDED SOME TIME TO VET THE INFORMATION BECAUSE IT'S LIKE DRINKING FROM A FIREHOSE. YEAH. IT WAS ONLY AT TIMES LIKE IN THE LONG. AND YOU MENTIONED THERE WAS EVEN U.S. COAST GUARD MEMBER. BUT SOMETHING INTEREST THERE. THERE IS. AND I THINK WHEN I FINALLY BE ABLE TO VET THAT HE'S WILLING TO COME I CAN SAY THIS POINT. IT INVOLVES A UNDER WATER A SUBMERGED OBJECT. YEAH. PROVIDE SUMMER JOBS WHICH THAT TIC TAC VIDEO FROM NOT MISTAKEN ALMOST LOOKED LIKE, DIDN'T IT KIND OF LOOKED LIKE IT WENT IN AND OUT OF THE WATER AT I THINK OF THE RIGHT IT. THERE'S THAT YOU THERE ARE SEVERAL ACTUALLY ON THIS SOMETHING DOES APPEAR TO GO INTO THE WATER MEN COME OUT. BUT ABSOLUTELY WITH THE TAKE TIGHT. >> INCIDENT. THERE ARE ALLEGATIONS THAT THIS IS THIS SO-CALLED TRAVEL THE APPARENT ABILITY OF THESE OBJECTS, WHATEVER THEY OUGHT TO MOVE. SEAMLESSLY SAY BETWEEN SPACE AND AND THE ATMOSPHERE AND THE ATMOSPHERE IT ON THE WALL TO US. >> AND THE THING WITH THE TIC TAC, IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SOME MY WHAT WE DO KNOW THAT KING FROM. YEAH, WE DO. IT ACTUALLY CAME FROM THE MILITARY LIKE YOU CAN'T DISPUTE WITH THE VIDEO CAME THAT'S OBVIOUSLY 1 OF THE MOST ALARMING ONES DON'T GO ANYWHERE. WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS YOU MORE TIME WITH YOU. THE MINUTE WE HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT ABOUT YOU KNOW, THIS THIS ONLY. IN THE HEARINGS AND WE HEAR WHAT HAPPENED IN THE HEARINGS AND WE HAVEN'T GOT A LOT MORE INFORMATION ON THE OUTSIDE FROM WHAT'S HAPPENING NEXT. WHAT'S PLANNED NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO OUR NEXT GUEST. KNOWS ALL ABOUT THIS LITERALLY BROKE THE STORY. THE AREA'S ROSS COLTART STANDING BY WITH >> IF THERE'S ONE PERSON WHO DESERVES A TON OF CREDIT FOR SPARKING RECENT INTEREST IN YOU OPPOSE THAT LED TO THE HEARINGS. IT IS OUR NEXT GUEST INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST ROSS COLD HEART WHO BROKE THE DAVID GROSS STORY RIGHT HERE ON NEWS NATION ABOUT 2 MONTHS AGO. ROSS JOINS US LIVE NOW. IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT SOURCES IN CONGRESS. WHAT ARE YOUR SOURCES SAYING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ANOTHER U F O HEARING. >> YES, WELL, GOOD EVENING BROUGHT. CONCERNED AT THE MOMENT. WE'VE GOT GREAT WITH WHAT'S BEEN ACHIEVED WITH THE HEARING, THE SIGNIFICANT MEDIA ARE INTERESTED IN. IT'S REFRESHING QUITE LOVELY TO SEE THE BIPARTISAN APPROACH BEING MADE BY DIFFERENT POLITICIANS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE. BUT WHAT HEARING IS THAT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO TAKE PLACE, WHICH IS A VERY DIFFERENT PROPOSITION FROM THE PRIVATE HEARINGS IN SICK. WE'LL SEE INCIDENT COME POP MITAD INFORMATION FACILITY, SKIFFS TH HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE FOR THE LAST TO USE IN ORDER FOR THAT KIND OF PUBLIC HEARING TO TAKE PLACE AND IN QUIZ THAT ORIOLE HEARING WITH SUBPOENAS COOL BEFORE A PUBLIC COMMITTEE AND ASKED TO GIVE EVIDENCE UNDER OATH, INCLUDING HOPEFULLY FIRST-HAND WITNESSES FROM THE LEGACY PROGRAM. IT REALLY DOES RICK WAS THE SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE AND PARTICULARLY SENATOR GILLIBRAND, THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK TO STEP UP AND HE'D GROWING PUBLIC OPINION ON THIS ISSUE. I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT SHE'S CERTAINLY MOTIVATED TO DO THAT. THE WITH THAT THIS IS SIGNIFICANT PUSH BANK GOING ON AT THE MOMENT FROM THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT AND SECTIONS OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WHO FRANKLY DO KNOW WANTS THE STERILIZING DISINFECTANT OF SOME LIGHT. SEAN ON SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. TELL ME ABOUT THIS PUSH BACK BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WHEN YOU TALK TO BIRCH ENTER OTHERS AND SAY THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE HEARINGS MEAN. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM YOUR SOURCES ABOUT THE PUSHBACK. HOW DOES THAT WORK? >> BRYANT AS YOU KNOW, DAVID BRUSHES RAISED VERY SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS OF POSSIBLE CRIMINALITY SIT-LIE ILLEGALITY CERTAINLY MISAPPROPRIATION IF MILK IDEA WITH GOVERNMENT FUNDS. >> THE ALLEGATION IS THAT ESSENTIALLY THE WOOL HAS BEEN PULLED OVER THE AUNT OF CONGRESS TO 15 LIES TOLD TO EITHER SIDE COMMITTEES. BUT EVEN POTENTIALLY PRESIDENTS HAVE BEEN MISLEAD. IT REALLY DOESN'T GET MUCH MORE SERIOUS THAN THIS. AND THAT'S WHY LIKE I ALWAYS SEE TO DO A CHANCE EVEN SENATOR MARCO RUBIO, THE TALKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF ACCOUNTABILITY OF RESTORING CONGRESS IS TRANSPARENCY AND CONTROL AND OVERSIGHT OVER THESE PROGRAMS. IF I HAD A REAL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY FULLY COMPLY WITH THE CONGRESSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND THE DIFFICULTY IS PEOPLE WHO ARE OBVIOUSLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. WHO PRESUMABLY A JURY HIGH POSITIONS IN BOTH THE DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND WHO WILL SIDE AND A VERY INFLUENTIAL INSIDE SOME OF THE BIGGEST AEROSPACE CONTRACTORS. I'VE JUST HAD A CONVERSATION THIS MORNING WITH SOMEBODY WHO APPROACHED ME ON BEHALF OF THE WITNESS, A POTENTIAL WITNESS FROM WITHIN THE LEGACY PROGRAM. SOMEBODY WHO PURPORTS TO HAVE DIRECT KNOWLEDGE OF THE VERY SAME PROGRAM THAT DAVID BRUSHES TALKING AT A ASKING MY ADVICE ABOUT HOW TO APPROACH AND FRANKLY, ONE OF THE ISSUES AT THE MOMENT IS TO BE THE PENTAGON'S YOU IF OU AP INVESTIGATION OFFICE. I WROTE IT'S A SENDING OUT A SHOCKING SIGNAL. IT DOESN'T HAVE A PHONE NUMBER. IT DOESN'T HAVE ADDRESS. IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A WEBSITE AND ITS TWITTER PAGE HASN'T PUSHED A TWEET SINCE THE VERY FIRST TWEET. IT POSTED LAST YEAR. SO IF THIS IS IF TRULY IS IF THIS TRULY IS AN AGENCY INSIDE THE PENTAGON THAT SERIOUSLY AND INTERESTED IN PROACTIVELY INVESTIGATING AND HEARING FOR WITNESSES. IT'S NOT SENDING THAT MESSAGE AND SO I'M IN THE DELIBERATE THE VIOLENT WAY. DO I SEEM TO THESE POOR PEOPLE AND I'M ENCOURAGING THEM TO CONSIDER GOING FORWARD TO WHY INSPECTOR GENERAL OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WITH THE INSPECTOR GENERAL THAT THE DEFENSE FORCE TOO FRANKLY JUST COME FORWARD TO THE SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMIEE WITH THE EVIDENCE THEY HAVE BECAUSE I HAVE TO SAY, NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN THE CURRENT BODY THAT THE PENTAGON HE'S INTERESTED IN THAT CONGRESS HAS MANDATED TO DO THESE KIND OF INVESTIGATIONS. AND WE KNOW THAT FIRSTHAND. >> WHISTLEBLOWERS ARE COMING FOR IMMEDIATE AGGRESSION MENTIONED IT IN HIS TESTIMONY THAT THERE WAS SOMEONE ELSE WITH FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF A CRASH RETRIEVAL PROGRAM WHO WHO DID GO TO INSPECTOR GENERAL WITH A DOCUMENT WITH TESTIMONY OF WHAT WHAT THEY SAW SO THAT THERE IS MORE TO COME. ROSS INCREDIBLE REPORTING ON. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING ON WITH US TONIGHT. WE'LL TALK TO YOU SOON. >> OK. STILL TO COME, IS THERE NO TURNING BACK NOW WHEN IT COMES TO QUEST TO LOOK INTO A POSSIBLE U F O COME COVER UP WAS IT POSSIBLE THAT ALL FADES AWAY. YOU HEARD ROB SAY IT IS POSSIBLE THERE ARE POWERFUL PEOPLE. >> I DON'T WANT THIS TO MOVE FORWARD AND IT'S GOING TO GET SHUT DOWN. WE'LL TALK TO OUR PANEL ABOUT THE FINAL COMING UP. >> WELCOME BACK TO OUR SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE HEARINGS. I WANT TO BRING BACK IN OUR PANEL. NICK POPE WORKED FOR THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATING UFO'S AND BEN HANSEN IS A FORMER FBI AGENT NOW ALSO INVESTIGATE UFO SIGHTINGS. I WANT TO ASK YOU BOTH, NICK, I WANT TO START WITH YOU. IT'S INTERESTING WHAT ROSS SAID, YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE BEHIND THE SCENES. YES OR SAYS PEOPLE ARE SAYING LIKE NO MORE NEED TO SHUT THIS DOWN. YOU HAVE TO KIND OF WONDERING IS THERE SOMEONE BEHIND THE SCENES SAYING THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT TIME. WHATEVER REASON, WE'VE GOT A WAR GOING ON RUSSIA-UKRAINE GOT A BAD RELATIONSHIP OF RIGHT. NOT RIGHT NOW. CHINA IS THERE SOMEONE SAYING LIKE NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR THIS. >> WELL, WHAT WE'VE SEEN THIS WEEK WITH THE WITH THE FROM DOCTOR CHECK TRICK. AND AND THE STATEMENT FROM A SU GOLF DOT. WE SEE THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK AND THEN, YOU OF COURSE, THE GOVERNMENT WILL TRY TO CONTROL THE NARRATIVE AND THAT'S THE STRUGGLE FOR OUT OF CONTROL GOING ON RIGHT NOW. BUT YOU CAN GET THE TOOTHPASTE BACK INTO THE TUBE. AND ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A THERE'S A CRITICAL MASS THAT HAS BUILT TOP HERE. TOO MUCH INTEREST TOO MUCH AT STAGE. I MEAN, THERE ARE ALLEGATIONS OFF WHAT MAY WELL BE CRIMINAL OFFENSES. CONGRESS BEING MISLED. CONGRESS IS NOT GOING TO LET DROP WE GOT MOST THINGS COMING. OF COURSE, THE NASA REPORT IS DUE NEXT MONTH AT THIS. YEAH. COMING UP SOON. YEAH. MORE HEARINGS, OF COURSE. AND THEN NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT 2024 IS GOING TO HAVE TO EVEN STRONGER 5 PROVISIONS INCLUDING EMINENT DOMAIN SO THE GOVERNMENT CAN TAKE BACK ANYTHING THAT HAS FOUND ITS WAY INTO THE PRIVATE SECTOR. INTERESTING. BEN, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I MEAN, IS IT IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE BEHIND THE SCENES SAYING LET'S JUST DRIP A LITTLE BIT OUT. SEE IF PEOPLE CAN PROCESS IT. GIVE IT SOME TIME LET SLIP YOUR QUESTION AROUND A LITTLE BIT, OK. AND YOU'RE SAYING IS IT A GOOD TIME. IS IT THE PERFECT TIME AND WE HAVE SO MUCH GOING ON IN THE COUNTRY IF THEY SLIP SOMETHING IN THERE. WHAT WE CALL, YOU KNOW, LIKE A BIG DEAL. DISCLOSURE COMES OUT. A LOT OF YOU KNOW, MIGHT KIND OF MISS WHAT WE REALLY SAID. >> RIGHT IN THE WE'RE NOT ALONE. AND SO YOU'VE GOT THOSE OTHER DISTRACTIONS. BUT I DO THINK AND BASED ON SOME REACH RESEARCH. I'VE DONE THAT. YOU THE BEST STRATEGY IS A SLOW DRIP METHOD. SO AS MUCH AS I HATE IT AS MUCH AS I WANT IT OUT RIGHT NOW. I THINK THE RATIONAL THING TO DO IS TO SLOWLY RELEASE LIKE NICK SAID. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T PUT IT BACK TO READING HISTORY BOOKS, BUT IT MIGHT TAKE THAT MAKES ME KIND MAKES YOU THINK OF COVID LIKE WHEN THEY HIT STUFF FROM US, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU WANT TO TELL US EVERYTHING IT'S LIKE. >> YOU KNOW, WE'RE HUMANS. WE, YOU KNOW, DON'T HIDE STEPHEN COLBERT IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE IN THE PROBLEM IS THERE WAS HORRIBLE RISK MESSAGING COVID, WE'RE TOLD COMPLETELY OPPOSITE THINGS ON SOMETHING. WE KNEW A LOT ABOUT THE PANDEMIC WE'VE BEEN PLANNING FOR PANDEMICS. BUT LOOK AT THIS. WHAT WE KNOW SO LITTLE ABOUT SOMETHING SUCH AS THIS AND WHO ARE THE EXPERTS. IF THIS COMES OUT, THERE'S GOING TO BE MASS CONFUSION POTENTIAL. AND I THINK THEY NEED TO STAY AHEAD OF THE GAME OR IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE SOCIAL WE MOVE FROM ONE STORY TO THE NEXT. ONLY ABOUT 30 SECONDS LEFT, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE THAT PEOPLE JUST PROCESS IT AND MOVE ON. I THINK SO. BUT I THINK BEN'S POINT ABOUT COVID IS A GOOD 1. YOU KNOW, SOCIETAL PANIC. WE SOAR IT. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU PANIC, YOU DON'T MAKE GOOD DECISIONS WHETHER IT'S GOVERNMENT HEALTH AUTHORITIES, THE MEDIA OR THE PUBLIC. >> NICK POPE, BEN HANSEN, YOU BOTH THAT HELP US PROCESS ALL THIS FOR THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS. I THINK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING ON TONIGHT. THANKS. FRIENDLY. APPRECIATE U KNOW, IT'S IT'S CRAZY TO THINK THAT WAS 55 DAYS AGO THAT WE AIRED THE STORY WITH UEFA WHISTLEBLOWER, DAVID GRESH HERE ON NEWS NATION. WE THAT IT IT. >> WE VETTED HIM. WE KNEW HE WAS LEGIT. WE ALSO KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING INTO UNCHARTED TERRITORY. I DON'T THINK ANY OF US EXPECTED JUST 55 DAYS LATER, WE'LL BE COVERING CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS. BUT HERE WE ARE. WHAT FEELS LIKE A MOMENT WE COULD BE UP ON THE CUSP OF LEARNING A LOT MORE NEWS NATION. HOPEFULLY YOU'VE FIGURED OUT. WE HAVE NO AGENDA. WE'RE NOT A NETWORK OF U F O BELIEVERS OR OF SKEPTICS. WE'RE JOURNALISTS COMMITTED TO FOLLOWING THE TRUTH WHEREVER IT TAKES US WHERE NEW NETWORK OR OUT OF A NEED TO BE DIFFERENT AND COVER STORIES THAT NO ONE ELSE IS COVERING AND YOU CAN COUNT ON US TO KEEP PUSHING AND DEMANDING THE TRUTH FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND FOR THE WORLD. THANKS SO MUCH FOR WATCHING TONIGHT.

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Keywords: WatchPrime, UAPs, UFOs, we are not alone, david grusch

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Length: 84min 13sec (5053 seconds)

Published: Mon Jul 31 2023