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but we begin tonight with a crisis that is impossible to ignore now I often start this show with the most recent assault on American democracy at the hands of the modern Republican party or the Supreme Court well tonight I want to talk to you about a different type of existential threat we all know it's hot some of you in Arizona spent the day trying to avoid 115 day heat and next week it might hit 120. earlier this week I shared some really terrifying news some scientists believe that July 4th of this year may have been one of the hottest days on Earth in 125 000 years guess what we keep breaking those records the Earth's average temperature set a new unofficial record on Thursday the third such milestone in a week that already was rated as the hottest on record the Earth's planetary average surpassed the 62.9 degree Mark now mind you half the globe is in their winter season right now and until Monday no day had passed a 62.6 degree average in the 44 years since such records have been kept these mind-blowing facts because climate change isn't an opinion are largely due to a dangerous combination of surging temperatures and the return of El Nino but that is not all the oceans are warmer and sea ice levels in Antarctica are dropping to an unparalleled level here are some recent examples of what's Happening beijing's temperature hit 104 degrees putting the city on track for one of its most severe heat waves on record last week a scorching heat wave in two of India's most populous states overwhelmed hospitals and filled a morgue to capacity in Spain temperatures have exceeded 110 degrees 100 people died in Mexico because of their heat wave and here in the United States more than 20 million Americans were under heat alerts in the midwest a place many assume is a climate Haven because of its location and Water Resources they are suffering through a near record drought crisping Fields across the Corn Belt in Texas temperatures have reached 120 degrees and caused at least a dozen deaths including a postal worker and a utility worker they die days before Governor Greg Abbott signed a sweeping new law eliminating mandated water breaks for certain laborers including construction workers the law doesn't go into effect until September 1st but for those having to work outside Abbott's law is grotesque here's what one welder told NPR you know you can't just tell a construction worker that's working in 100 degree heat the heat index being 112 15 that they can't stop and take water that's cruel and unusual punishment I believe we've also seen unprecedented wildfires burned through Canada sending bands of choking smoke down to the United States the director of Europe's climate change service told the Washington Post we have never seen anything like this before we are in Uncharted Territory but as Vox points out none of this is surprising it is what scientists have been warning us about for decades and they say that it will only get worse one of those experts is Chris glonsner the gloninger who was the chief meteorologist for CBS affiliate it for the CBS affiliate in Des Moines Iowa gloninger has spent nearly two decades warning his viewers that the extreme weather incidents that were that we were experiencing were linked to The Climate crisis if you look at the summer that we've seen so far as her Planet continues to warm the third warmest just released today the third warmest summer on record and that is a data set of 128 years here's why it is important to be stewards of the earth we have now reached our 529th consecutive month with temperatures globally above that 20th century average we have some low 90s two in the mix and also poor air quality because of those fires again as the planet warms a lot of these fires are gaining Steam and seeing explosive growth because of the warning planet he recently told NPR news that it Remains the existential crisis of our lifetime but not everybody wants to hear that yesterday he ended his career as a TV meteorologist citing in part A String of death threats from one person and the resulting PTSD the viewer sent him a series of hostile emails telling him to stop spreading a quote liberal conspiracy theory which is nothing but a quote Biden hoax glonninger will now Focus entirely on finding ways to help communities to deal with the climate crisis and joining me now is Chris glonninger after leaving television he joined the Woods Hole group as senior scientist also joining me is Jeff Goodell contributing writer for Rolling Stone and author of the new book The Heat will kill you first life and death on a scorched Planet a very apropos title for today um Mr loninger I do want to start with you because it seems pretty frightening that um our favorite person usually in local news I used to work in local news and everybody's favorite person was always the weatherman the meteorologist was always like the most popular person maybe the sports guys were like a close second just walk us through what was happening I mean you're telling the truth it's your job it's your expertise and you're getting death threats please explain Joy thanks for having me you know I started this this journey back in Boston at NBC where I started the country's first weekly series on climate change and it kind of gained some steam uh I got picked up by a couple of news directors who wanted to have me bring that message out to the Midwest where we are at the mercy of Mother Nature right 11 the GDP in Iowa is agriculture we produce 64 wind power that is what powers our grid true renewable energy but yet the second I started mentioning it the pushback started to to stream in very different from Boston but at that point I was preaching to the choir here it was kind of going into the lions den and you know it escalated to a point where I received a death threat and the gentleman pled guilty and received a whopping 150 fine but after 2016 that was the Tipping Point where people felt like that they were entitled to just unleash hate and that is exactly what we saw as journalists and as scientists and did you did have you had pushback before and there are certain Parts on tree where there is this sort of weird Duality where people they care about nature right because they care about being able to hunt they want nature to remain pristine for the things they like to do outside but there also is this resistance to the idea that what used to be called global warming which I think was a not maybe not a term that worked so well but climate change the climate crisis is real is that did you get pushed back before from people who just were like I don't like you talking about climate crisis sure I mean you get the typical responses the climate's always been changing and you kind of have to laugh at those responses but even in Boston I did this documentary for NBC uh Boston where I looked at environmental justice communities and the impact that the climate crisis was having on black and brown communities and I received pushback even in Boston right and that was almost like taking two hot topics fusing them together and I expected it I welcome did right but here it was much more dialed down um and we were talking about data all I was doing was providing those Trends and used that clip and just before introducing me where we were talking about how many more 90 degree days we're seeing how much wind power we're generating how many homes can that power this was exciting stuff and and not really overly controversial and you know what started as just kind of like ebbing and flowing of the criticism again reached that Peak last June and it ended up up in in a year of therapy trying to work through some of these emotions we work wild hours from three to eleven my wife is home alone those thoughts weigh in the back your mind so yeah absolutely no I totally get it um Jeff cadell thank you for being here your book is titled the heat will kill you first I mean yeah I mean the heat is killing people there are people who are literally dying while their governor is saying you have to work outside without a water break but let me just show a few a little data um and so this is surface air temperatures and it's scary when you just look at it as a graph where you see it just Spike and Spike and Spike up from 1979 to 2000. um there's another graph here um that talks about a side by side of the coverage of sea ice in the Northern Hemisphere and you can just sort of visually see it change over time this is data it's Science Why do you think there is such an emotional resistance to believing that the climate crisis is real oh that's a very good question I think that you know it the problem is the climate crisis is it is affects everything right and people don't want to think that you know their actions what they're doing um can have this kind of a profound impact on the world we live in you know people deniers often side oh this is just a small percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere how could that possibly have such an impact you know this is some kind of conspiracy with you know Bill Gates or whoever else is you know and we're all profiting off this and this is some kind of you know kind of scam that everybody is running and you know it connects with the Andy vac stuff and a lot of other things in the sort of partisan you know Warfare right now but you know what we're seeing now in real time is this is this is playing out and it's playing out faster than even the most kind of supposedly alarmist climate scientists were talking about a decade ago during the January to a white house meeting that took place six weeks after Donald Trump lost the 2020 election a meeting former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson called unhinged well first of all the Overstock person I've never never entered into the Sky Plus actually the first thing I did I walked in and I looked at him and I said who are you tripolini and Hershman and uh whoever the other guy was should nothing but contempt and disdain uh of the president what they were proposing I thought was nuts let's have the federal government sees voting machines it's a terrible idea some comment about like Nest thermostats being hooked up to the Internet Flynn screamed at me that I was a quitter and everything kept on standing up and turning around and screaming at me I'll get a categorically describe it as you guys are not Tough Enough or maybe I put it another way you're a bunch the motley crew of Trump's outside sycophans Trump lawyer and the Kraken lady Sidney Powell disgraced former National Security adviser Michael Flynn who previously pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about contacts with the Kremlin and Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne basically the Couch's version of the pillow guy also floated proposals like naming Powell special counsel to investigate non-existent voter fraud according to CNN Special counsel Jack Smith is now questioning Witnesses about that six hour meeting which took place on the night of December 18 2020. four days after the legitimate electors had met and finalized the election results in each of their states the White House meeting ended after midnight after which the soon-to-be ex-president fired off his Infamous big protest in DC on January 6th be there will be wild tweet in the wee hours of the morning on December 19th joining me now is MSNBC legal analyst Andrew Weissman former FBI general counsel and former senior member of the Mueller probe and and I have thought great to see you as always Andrew that that tweet always to me was the most important moment before January 6th itself right because this is when Donald Trump makes January 6 the thing most Americans didn't know what January 6 was only as super Geeks knew that it was the important day in every you know election uh presidential election year he made it a thing called people to the Capitol so for you when you look at that meeting and all the people that were there what does the Jack Smith's interest in that meeting there's the Tweet say to you so I it is a very important meeting and the Tweet is very important um but as Zoe Lofgren said earlier uh in commenting about this it is important to keep this in context because there's so much more to what Donald Trump was doing because he had engaged in pressuring the Department of Justice he engaged in pressure and pressuring on state electors um he had tried all sorts of ways so this he was coming down to the last possible ways of overturning the election and the will of the people so it's obviously very important that that context um around it should not be forgotten obviously what happened at the meeting is you alluded to is is just it's completely antithetical to a democracy you have people talking about taking over the Department of Justice uh with the likes of Sydney Powell of all people uh you have the idea that the military with no facts whatsoever would seize voting machines and redo the election again completely antithetical to a democratic process and the Tweet really fits in with that that theme which is that one of the things that the president was trying to do is say okay here's another way to pressure uh Congress uh if none of this works so um to me this suggests that it's both looking at Donald Trump and his activity at that meeting but also the other people who are there who are definitely not you know off the radar screen well right now let's put them back up again because you have in that room you have Donald Trump obviously Sydney Powell Michael Flynn Rudy Giuliani we talked about that we have the Overstock CEO which God only knows why he was there and some of them wondered the same thing Emily Newman who's a trump Administration official Pat cipolloni who's the White House counsel who also talks the January 6th committee you have Trump advisor Eric hershon is the one who said that's nuts all this is bananas Derek Lyons who's the staff secretary Mark Meadows who keeps coming up and um Matt Morgan who is a trump campaign Lauren Robert O'Brien National Security advisor afterwards Cassidy Hutchinson snaps a photo of literally Mark Meadows walking Giuliani out to make sure he leaves okay so all that happens Trump then tweets sometime after that it's Gonna Be Wild I I note that because the two key dates Andrew had passed December 8th which is when they have the formal sort of finalization of the Electoral count process and then this uh December 14th date which is when the electors have have set it up in all of their states the real electors have done what they're going to do and yet Trump comes out of this six hour meeting saying something's gonna happen on January 6th it seems like that's the key right because the question is well what did he say is going to happen what did he conclude from that meeting was going to happen because you've got a lot of January 6th defendants saying Trump is who brought me here Trump is who made me do this violence yeah absolutely I would add to that that list that's that's excellent um Joy I would add to that list that they'd gone to court and lost everything so the challenge is a reason those dates are so critical is that they actually had their opportunity to be heard and they lost all of those cases and Pennsylvania to the January 6th committee said something that I thought was right on point um he said you know what there's a certain place and time where yet it's put up or shut up and it's like you have evidence this is the time to tell us and to this day there is no evidence I mean we just have to look at the recommendation of the DC bar today that Rudy Giuliani should be disbarred because he had no evidence to support the claim that he made in federal court that the election should be overturned and to me it's all of the peace there is no factual evidence um so you know that is really the key to the reason why I think there will be a criminal case by Jack Smith is because there's to the state no factual support for any of the steps that they were taking um and the thing is that it that I can't get out of my mind is that they they meet for six hours with these the sort of Looney Tune crew but somehow Donald Trump and not just him Steve Bannon on January 5th says basically watch your butt something's gonna happen tomorrow they came out of that meeting with something of a plan we don't know what it was but it's hard for me to believe that they didn't come away or at least Donald Trump didn't come away believing that after all those legal failures after they had exhausted the the true electoral college process what is it he think they could do it was all over and yet he believed if he marked to the capital something was going to happen I feel like it's so incriminating I would be shocked if uh he wasn't indicted and how shocked would you be if he's not I I just don't think I mean I don't even go there because I just think it's going to happen and to your answer your question of what do I think the strategy was I think the strategy was and still is might makes right um this was just a simple question of I don't care about the facts I don't care about the law this is a question of whoever can just have power and can keep it regardless of principles regardless of the fact that we have a long history of a peaceful transition of power in this country yeah so I just think that is what was going on was just what is the next step which is why they were talking about having the ordering the military to redo a vote it would be like storming the Oscar stage when the only purpose of the people on the stage is to read what's in the envelope literally the vice president at that point is the guy on the Oscar stage reading the envelope everything is over and so for them to think that somehow they could make him do something that he didn't have any power to do I'm with you it tells me that they thought that something violent was going to happen in my opinion alone but Andrew Weissman it's always great to have you on your opinion matters much more than mine because you're actually an actual expert thank you very much [Music] foreign thank you

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Published: Sat Jul 08 2023