>> THEY COULD HAVE WHEEL THAT RAMBLING ONTO THE HOUSE FLOOR TODAY, GIVEN EVERYONE IN THE
CHAMBER AGO AND STILL ELECTIVE REPUBLICANS WOULD HAVE USED
THEIR TIME AND ENERGY MORE PRODUCTIVELY THAN THEY HAVE IN
THEIR LATEST ADVENTURE BECAUSE NOW APPARENTLY THE PEOPLE'S
BUSINESS INCLUDES KEEPING PARDONED STEVE BANNON AND OUT
OF PRISON. SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON SAYING
HOUSE REPUBLICANS ARE WORKING TO FILE AN AMICUS BRIEF IN
BANNON'S EMERGENCY APPEAL TO THE UNITED STATES SUPREME
COURT. HARD TO SAY WHICH PART OF THAT DECISION IS MORE
DEGRADING. THE FACT THAT THE GOP IS STICKING ITS NECK OUT
FOR A TRUMP ALLY WHO IGNORED A SUBPOENA FROM THEIR BODY HAVING
TO DO WITH THE DEADLY ATTACK ON THEIR OWN PLACE OF WORK OR THE
BY ARGUING BEN AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO IGNORE THE
SUBPOENA. THEY'RE EFFECTIVELY ENDORSING A DIMINISHED VERSION
OF THEIR OWN CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY. STEVE BANNON IS DUE
TO REPORT TO PRISON BY JULY TO START A 4 MONTH SENTENCE FOR A
CRIME HE DID COMMIT. WE'RE BACK WITH DAVID JOLLY AND CHARLIE
SITES. CHARLIE, IT'S IT'S MIKE TYSON
IS IS IS SORT OF AN AMAZING MAGA UNDERWORLD, UNDERBELLY
FIGURE TALK ABOUT THIS SERIES OF CHOICES HE'S MAKING AROUND
STEVE BANNON. >> WELL, IT'S IT'S THE SAME
SERIES OF CHOICES HE'S MADE AROUND. WHAT IS WHAT WE DO FOR
DONALD TRUMP, WHAT HE'S WILLING TO SAY, HOW HE'S WILLING TO
HAVE THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TURNED INTO AN
INSTRUMENT OF THE OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. IT'S IT'S BIZARRE
AND I'M SORRY, REPEAT THAT PHRASE. IT IS NOT NORMAL FOR
CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS FACED WITH SERIOUS ISSUES TO SPEND
THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS MUCH TIME TRYING TO KEEP SOMEBODY LIKE
STEVE BEEN OUT OF JAIL. BUT IT IS AN INDICATION OF WHAT THE
CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICAN PARTY IS AND WHAT THEY FEEL THEY NEED
TO DO TO TO, YOU KNOW, TOO, TO THROW SOPS TO BOTH DONALD
TRUMP AND THE MAGA WORLD. AND IT'S AN INDICATION OF WHAT
YOU WOULD GET IF THERE WAS A TRUMP 2 POINT. OH, PRESIDENT'S.
IF ANYBODY THINKS THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY RESISTANCE ON THE
PART OF CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS TO THE WORST ABUSES OF THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, LOOK AT THE WAY THEY'RE BEHAVING RIGHT
NOW WHEN HE'S NOT EVEN IN POWER THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO THIS
SORT OF THING. >> YOU KNOW, AND THE SUPREME
COURT IS IS ONCE AGAIN ANOTHER CHARACTER IN THE STORY. STEVE
BANNON BAG FOR A PARDON AND THE FINAL
POWERS AND DAYS OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY FOR ANOTHER CRIME
THAT WASN'T REALLY IN DISPUTE. HE SCAMMED HIS SUPPORTERS AND
TRUMP'S WHEN IT CAME TO BUILDING A WALL. HE HE HE
SOLICITED DONATIONS. THEY DIDN'T GO TOWARD THE WALL OR
ANYTHING REMOTELY RESEMBLING THE WALL. THEY FATTEN HIS
POCKETS AND HE'S NOW IN TROUBLE AGAIN. I MEAN, THE ISSUE OF CRIMINAL SERVICE, IT IS IS
ANOTHER PLOT POINT THAT KEEPS REPEATING ITSELF IN TRUMP'S
INNERMOST CIRCLE. DAVID JOLLY. >> YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. AND
WE'RE SEEING THE LAW CATCH UP WITH STEVE BANNON AND SO YOU
SEE, YOU KNOW, THE BIDEN FISH FLOP AROUND BEFORE THEY EXPIRE.
BUT WHAT HE'S HOPING FOR AND WHAT ALL OTHER TRUMP A CRIMINAL
NETWORK PEOPLE ARE HOPING FOR. I GUESS IF YOU CAN CALL THEM
THAT IS A TRUMP WINS AND SOMEHOW IS ABLE TO ALLEVIATE
THAT ACCOUNTABILITY THEY'RE FACING. BUT I THINK THERE'S
THIS. THERE'S THAT A BEHAVIOR THAT WE SEE AND
STEVE BANNON THAT DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF HAS NORMALIZED AND IT
IS THE REFUSAL TO EVEN RECOGNIZE THE AUTHORITY OF
BASIC INSTITUTIONS. STEVE BANNON WOULD NOT BE IN
THIS PLACE OF HAVING TO REPORT TO PRISON. IF YOU HAD JUST
SHOWN UP, YOU COULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO COOPERATE WITH
CONGRESS. HE JUST HAD TO RESPOND TO THE SUBPOENA AND
SHOW UP AND THEN SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, NOT ANSWERING YOUR
QUESTIONS FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS WERE AND PLEADING THE
5TH WORKS OR OTHER PRIVILEGES AND STEADY, JUST NOTIONALLY
THROUGHOUT THIS EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE AND THEN SAID SCREW
YOU GUYS TO CONGRESS IN CONGRESS THAT WILL THAT DOESN'T
WORK. THAT'S NOT THE WAY THIS WORKS. AND SO WHEN THEY MADE
THE REFERRAL DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE SAID THERE'S BEEN 0
COOPERATION. CONTRAST THAT, FOR INSTANCE, WITH THE HUNTER
BIDEN A SCENARIO WITH THE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS, IF
AN ADVERSE WITNESS WHO REALLY DOES NOT WANT TO REPORT AT
LEAST SHOWS SOME LEVEL OF COOPERATION AND SOME LEVEL OF
MAKING LEGAL CLAIMS IN THEIR OWN DEFENSE TO CONGRESS.
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE DOES NOT WANT TO TOUCH CONTEMPT OF
CONGRESS CLAIMS. BUT WITH STEVE BANNON, HE JUST SAID I DON'T
CARE WHO YOU GUYS ARE. I DON'T RECOGNIZE YOUR AUTHORITY.
I'M NOT GOING TO COOPERATE WITH THE STUPID PART FOR STEVE
BANNON IS ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS SHOW UP AND SHUT UP BUT HE
DIDN'T DO IT AND NOW HE'S GOING TO JAIL. >> YEAH. I MEAN, IT IS THE
HUBRIS. IT IS THE SORT OF FEW THAT HAS THEM IN THIS POSITION.
LET LET ME TURN, THOUGH, TO THE SUBSTANCE OF HIS ROLE ON
JANUARY SEX. LET ME SHOW THIS. THIS IS A PRESENTATION FROM
CARSON AND ZOE LOFGREN CHILI. >> BUT THE EVIDENCE INDICATES
THAT MISTER BANNON HAD ADVANCE KNOWLEDGE OF MISTER TRUMP'S
INTENT TO CLEAR VICTORY FALSELY ON ELECTION NIGHT. BUT ALSO THAT MISTER BANNON
KNEW ABOUT MISTER TRUMP'S PLANNING FOR JANUARY 6. HERE'S
WHAT BANNON SAID ON JANUARY 5TH. >> ALL H*** IS GOING TO BREAK
LOOSE TOMORROW. ALL CONVERGING AND NOW WE'RE ON IS THEY SAY
THE POINT OF ATTACK, RIGHT? THE POINT OF ATTACK TO MORE. I'LL TELL YOU THIS. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN LIKE
YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, OK? IT'S GOING TO BE QUITE
EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFERENT. AND ALL I CAN SAY IS STRAPPED
IN. YOU HAVE MADE THIS HAPPEN AND TOMORROW IT'S GAME DAY.
SO STRAP IN. LET'S GET READY. >> LET'S TALK FOR A STATE DOWN
IN. HE IS A SINGULAR FIGURE IN BOTH AND AS I'M SORT OF
MALEVOLENT ROLE HE PLAYS IN ATTACKING THE ESTABLISHMENT AND
HIS SUCCOP OR TO THE ESTABLISHMENT. HE'S A PROLIFIC
SOURCE TO MAINSTREAM MEDIA OUTLETS COVERING THE MAGA
MOVEMENT, VERY PROUD OF HIS CONTRIBUTIONS TO IT. AND THIS
JUST FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE MOMENT CATCHING UP WITH HIM
TRAVELING. >> WILL IT WILL? IT IS. AND HE
IS THE END OF THE MAGA MOVEMENT AT THIS POINT. BUT BUT KEEP IN
MIND THAT HE IS DOING THE BIDDING OF THE FORMER
PRESIDENT, UNITED STATES, THE FUTURE PRESIDENT NIGHT
STATES. AND LET'S GO BACK TO MIKE JOHNSON THAT MIKE JOHNSON
IS LOOKING AT HIM AND SAYS THIS IS OUR GUY. THIS IS SOMEBODY
THAT WE WANT TO DEFEND. THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO WAS A VICTIM.
SO THE LARGER PICTURE HERE IS THE ASSAULT ON ON ANY SORT OF
LEGAL ACCOUNTABILITY FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED WITH WITH
DANIEL IN JANUARY, SAYING THIS IS PART OF OF THIS REVISIONIST
HISTORY, TURNING JANUARY 6TH INTO SOME SORT OF LEGITIMATE
PROTESTS AND REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS ARE NOW ALL IN ON ALL
OF THIS. YOU KNOW THAT DONALD TRUMP IS OUT ON A REGULAR BASIS
JOINING HIMSELF WITH THE JANUARY 6, RIOTERS UP PLEDGING
THE HE WILL PARDON ALL OF THEM. AND IN MANY WAYS, YOU KNOW,
STEVE BANNON IS JUST A SYMBOL OF ALL OF THAT. WHAT'S
EXTRAORDINARY IS THAT MIKE JOHNSON HAS A CHOICE TO MAKE.
HE COULD DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM THAT DEAL WITH THE BUSINESS OF
THE COUNTRY, PUT THE COUNTRY OVER THIS AND MOVE ON INSTEAD
BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP IS DEMANDING IT. HE HAS TO GO AND
USE HIS AUTHORITY TO TRY TO DEFEND STEPHEN WHO WAS
OBVIOUSLY IN DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THE CONSPIRACY TO TRY TO
OVERTURN THIS ELECTION. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ALL PART OF THIS
CONTINUING THIS ATTACK ON THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.
THIS THIS THIS INSISTENCE THAT THAT THEY ARE ALL VICTIMS AND
THE FACT THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THE PARTY OF LAW AND
ORDER, I CAN'T GET OVER THIS ENTRY. DAVID CANDIED, THE PARTY
OF LAW AND ORDER. YOU GO NOW TO A TRUMP RALLY, PEOPLE GOING.
I'M VOTING FOR THE CONVICTED FELON. THE CHAIRMAN OF THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY, A COUNTY THAT I'M SITTING IN RIGHT NOW HAD AN
OP-ED PIECE. I AM VOTING FOR THE CONVICTED FELON AND THE
MORE FELONS THEY ARE, THE MORE ZEALOUS I'M GOING TO BE IN
SUPPORTING THEM. I MEAN, THIS IS WE ARE IN A REALLY
WEIRD MOMENT IN AMERICAN POLITICS. AND IT'S NOT JUST
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DEMOCRACY, BUT THERE'S A REAL ASSAULT ON
THE CONCEPT OF THE RULE OF LAW. IF YOU DO, YOU LEGITIMIZE THE
ENTIRE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND IN TURN FROM, IT'LL BE A
BIT LIKE STEVE BANNON'S INTO SOME SORT OF A MARTYRED. >> HI THERE, EVERYONE. IT'S 4
O'CLOCK IN THE EAST. ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER ISSUE SURROUNDING
THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT'S TRANSPARENCY
CONFIDENCE. THE COURT WHICH STILL HAS DECISIONS ON A DOZEN
ARGUED CASE YET TO BE ANNOUNCED THIS TERM. >> TODAY INADVERTENTLY POSTED
ONLINE A DOCUMENT RELATED TO AN ABORTION CASE WHICH WAS
OBTAINED BY BLOOMBERG LAW. A SUPREME COURT SPOKESWOMAN
CONFIRMED THAT THE DOCUMENT WAS, QUOTE, INADVERTENTLY HIM
BRIEFLY UP LOADED BUT NOTED THAT THE RULING HAS NOT BEEN
RELEASED AND WOULD BE IN DUE COURSE. NBC NEWS HAS NOT
INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIED THE DOCUMENT. IT IS NOT KNOWN.
IT IS A DRAFT DECISION. THE ACTUAL DECISION OR NEITHER OF
THOSE THINGS. THE DOCUMENT HAS SINCE BEEN REMOVED FROM ITS
WEBSITE. BUT THE DOCUMENT DID SING ALL
WAS THAT THE COURT APPEARS SET TO ALLOW EMERGENCY ROOM DOCTORS
IN THE STATE OF IDAHO TO PERFORM LIFE-SAVING ABORTIONS,
WHICH THEY ARE UNABLE TO DO UNDER THAT STATE'S DEFENSIVE
LIFE ACT THAT PASSED IN AUGUST OF 2022, THE LAW IS ONE OF THE
MOST EXTREME ABORTION BANS IN THE COUNTRY. IT PROHIBITS
NEARLY ALL ABORTIONS AND DOES NOT ALLOW FOR EXCEPTIONS WHEN
THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER IS AT RISK. WELL, THIS POTENTIAL
RULING BY THE SUPREME COURT SOUNDS AND FEELS LIKE GOOD NEWS
LIKE A WIN FOR ABORTION RIGHTS ADVOCATES. IN ACTUALITY, IT
AMOUNTS TO A PUNCH BY THE HIGHEST COURT. IT SIMPLY MEANS
THAT A RULING FROM THE LOWER COURT WHICH HAD PAUSED IDAHO'S
BAN ON ABORTION, HEALTH CARE WOULD BE REINSTATED AND THAT
THE COURT DID NOT RULE ON ANY OF THE MERITS OF THIS CASE.
JUSTICE KETANJI BROWN JACKSON MAKES ALL OF THESE POINTS IN
WRITING THIS QUOTE, TODAY'S DECISION IS NOT A VICTORY FOR
PREGNANT PATIENTS IN IDAHO. IT IS DELAY WHILE THIS COURT
DONNELL'S AND THE COUNTRY WAITS PREGNANT PEOPLE EXPERIENCING
EMERGENCY MEDICAL CONDITIONS REMAIN IN A PRECARIOUS POSITION
AS THEIR DOCTORS ARE KEPT IN THE DARK ABOUT WHAT THE LAW
REQUIRES. NOW, THIS COMES JUST ONE DAY
AHEAD OF THE FIRST 2024 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE AS
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN HAS MADE THE PROTECTION OF WOMEN'S
REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM, A CENTERPIECE OF HIS CAMPAIGN. >> DECADES OF PROGRESS
SHATTERED JUST BECAUSE THE LAST GUY GOT 4 YEARS TO WAIT OUT.
YOU KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO BE GETS ANOTHER SPORT, NOT
REPUBLICANS ROSE YESTERDAY. AGAIN, WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO
BAN THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE NATIONWIDE FOR COMING TO TRY VS
AND BIRTH CONTROL NEXT. PRODUCE EXTREME AND SEND ME BACK TO WHY
THE NATIONAL FIGHT LIKE H*** TO RESTORE ROE V WADE AND PROTECT
AMERICAN FREE NOW. >> NOW IN ADDITION TO THE
IMPACT ON ABORTION RIGHTS HERE IN AMERICA, THE TEMPORARY
POSTING OF THE DOCUMENT ON THE SUPREME COURT'S WEBSITE ALSO
RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY A SECOND ABORTION-RELATED CASE
AFTER DOBBS REACH THE PUBLIC INADVERTENTLY ITS AIMS BEFORE
THE COURT OFFICIALLY RELEASED IT AS WELL AS WHAT OTHER
DECISIONS FROM THE COURT THAT ARE DONE AND READY OR JUST
SITTING THERE. IT'S WHERE WE START THE HOUR. SOME OF OUR
MOST FAVORITE REPORTERS AND FRIENDS, SENIOR EDITOR FOR
SLATE HOST OF THE ED BECAUSE PODCAST VALUE LEFTWICH IS HERE.
PLUS, THE PRESIDENT OF REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM FOR ALL
MANY TIM RICE WHO IS HERE AND THAT'S NBC LEGAL ANALYSTS.
NYU LAW PROFESSOR MELISSA MURRAY IS BACK AND FORMER OBAMA
WHITE HOUSE POLICY DIRECTOR AT MSNBC MEDICAL CONTRIBUTOR,
DOCTOR KAVITA. PATEL US HERE. THE 4 OF YOU COULDN'T ARE
CHANGING THE WORLD. IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE ALL OF YOU HERE
WITH US. I MEAN, DO YOU HELP ME SIFT THROUGH WHAT THIS IS WHAT
WE THINK HAPPENED? >> I MEAN, I THINK THAT THIS
UNLIKE THE DOBBS LEAK, WAS PROBABLY A KIND OF THE
TECHNICAL SCREW UP THAT HAPPENED. SOMEBODY UP LOADED AN
OPINION THAT WAS NOT CLEARLY NOT READY BY ITS THE PARENTS TO
BE SORT OF RELEASED TODAY IN SOMEBODY LOADED IT ONTO THE
COURT WEB SITE AND THE GOOD PEOPLE AT BLOOMBERG LAW SAID,
HEY, WE SEE IT BECAUSE ALL OF US ARE BUSY GOING REFRESH,
REFRESH, REFRESH TO SEE WHAT ELSE IS COMING. AND SO WE'VE
GOT A DRAFT OPINION. BUT I THINK THIS IS MORE IN THE
BUCKET OF IF THE SUPREME COURT BEHAVED LIKE AN ORDINARY,
TRANSPARENT INSTITUTION, EMBARRASSING THINGS LIKE THIS
WOULDN'T HAPPEN. AND IF THEY HAPPEN, THEY GET CORRECTED
QUICKLY. THEN IN THE BUCKET OF THE CATASTROPHIC CUPS, LIKE
IT'S STILL VERY IMPACTS. >> YEAH, I MEAN, I GUESS THE
PROBLEM WITH AN INSTITUTION WHOSE PUBLIC APPROVAL IS
PLUNGING FARTHER AND FASTER THAN ANY OTHER INSTITUTION IN
CIVIC LIFE IS THE INABILITY TO OWN A MISTAKE. I MEAN, WHY NOT
MANDATE? AND IF IT'S READY, WHY NOT RELEASE IT TODAY,
DALIA? >> I MEAN, IT IS HARD NOT TO
THINK THAT IF IT WAS READY, IT SHOULD BE RELEASED TODAY.
WE'RE ALWAYS TOLD THAT THERE'S NO PARTISAN VALENCE OR
POLITICAL VALENCE TO WIN CASES COME DOWN. WE'RE TOLD, IN FACT,
OR SCHOOL ID THAT IT'S ALL JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY COME DOWN
WHEN THEY'RE READY. SO THIS CERTAINLY SUGGESTS EITHER THAT
SOMEONE IS STILL DRAFTING SOMETHING IN WHICH CASE IT
WASN'T READY OR THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COURT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE
POLITICAL IN ITS RELEASE OF CASES THAN ANY OF US THOUGHT.
BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW. AND AGAIN, THE FACT THAT THE
COURT THAT JUST SORT OF TURNED OUT THE LIGHTS AT 11 O'CLOCK
INSTEAD, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT TOMORROW. REALLY, I THINK
SPEAKS TO THIS AGAIN, IMPERIAL VIEW OF ITSELF AS BEYOND
REPROACH. I'M SURE WE'RE MINUTES AWAY FROM HEARING THAT.
IT'S THE PRESIDENT'S FAULT AGAIN. >> I'M I'M PRETTY PREDICTABLE,
BUT THAT THE DEPRESSING AND CERTAINLY NOT HELPFUL TO THE
COURT. LET'S DEAL WITH THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS POSTED.
TODAY'S DOCUMENT HAS THIS FROM SAM ALITO AND THAT DECIDE TO
OBVIOUSLY THE RIGHT TO REFUSE MEDICAL TREATMENT WITHOUT
CONSENT IS NOT UNTIL THE RIGHT TO DEMAND TREATMENT THAT IS
PROHIBITED BY LAW. CANCER PATIENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO
REFUSE TREATMENT THAT THEIR DOCTORS RECOMMEND THAT THEY DO
NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO OBTAIN WHATEVER TREATMENT THEY WANT,
SUCH AS THE ADMINISTRATION OF A DRUG THAT CANNOT LEGALLY BE
USED IN THE COUNTRY GRANTING TERMINAL PATIENTS THE RIGHT TO
TRY EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS. LIKEWISE HERE, A WOMAN'S RIGHT
TO WITHHOLD CONSENT TO TREATMENT RELATED TO HER
PREGNANCY DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU CAN DEMAND AN ABORTION.
I MEAN, DOCTOR COULD DOCTOR PATEL. THERE IS STILL THIS
DELUSION. >> THAT WOMEN ARE OUT THERE
DEMANDING ABORTIONS LIKE THEY DEMAND, YOU KNOW, SPANX
UNDERGARMENTS OR MELLOW ON IT. IT'S IT'S A IT'S A FEW
OBVIOUSLY SEEMINGLY SHARED IN THE HOUSEHOLD. IT'S WRAPPED AND
THAT THIS INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PEDDLED BY THE EXTREME
WEIGHING OF THE PRO LIFE MOVEMENT FOR DECADES. IT'S
INCREDIBLY HONEST APP WITH AMERICAN PUBLIC OPINION AND
IT'S INCREDIBLY HAVE THE STAFF WITH ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS
INSIDE A DOCTORS OFFICE BETWEEN PATIENT AND A DOCTOR. TELL ME
WHAT YOU THINK OF OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THIS DOCUMENT.
WE AGAIN, DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE FINAL OPINION. >> YET, NICOLE, IT MIGHT BE
EASIER TO ACTUALLY TELL TELL PEOPLE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE
GROUND. SO A PREGNANT PATIENT MIGHT COME TO THE EMERGENCY
ROOM OR THEIR DOCTOR'S OFFICE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, BLEEDING. ONE OF THE MOST COMMON THINGS
IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM. IT HAPPENED 54 TIMES AT SAINT
LUKE'S BOISE, IDAHO HOSPITAL LAST YEAR IS THAT A PATIENT'S
WATER BREAKS BEFORE A FETUS CAN LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE WOMB AROUND
OR BEFORE 20 TO 22 WEEKS OF GESTATION AFTER THE WATER, IT'S
THERE'S USUALLY A FETAL HEARTBEAT, BUT YOU CAN HAVE AN
INFECTION QUICKLY SPREAD. WHEN I TALK ABOUT SEPSIS, WHICH
IS LIFE THREATENING WITHOUT A BAN IN PLACE, WHAT NORMALLY
WOULD HAPPEN IS A DOCTOR WOULD LIKELY RECOMMEND TERMINATION TO
THE PREGNANCY TO AVOID SEPSIS AND THE DEATH OR POTENTIAL
DEATH OF THE MOTHER AND THE FETUS WITH THIS BAND. WHAT IS
HAPPENING TODAY AS IT SPECIALIST ARE HAVING TO MAKE A
JUDGMENT CALL, HAVING TO THINK ABOUT TALKING TO THE
ADMINISTRATION AND IN MANY CASES HAVING TO SEND A PATIENTS
OUT OF STATE. KEEP IN MIND THE NEAREST PLACE THEY CAN SEND
THEM TO HIS PORTLAND OR SEATTLE. THAT'S ABOUT 8 HOURS
AWAY THAT CAN FREELY OFFER MEDICAL CARE THAT I'M OFFERING
ABORTIONS ON DEMAND. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MEDICAL CARE.
SO THOSE COMMENTS BY JUSTICE ALITO AND AND IT JUST MAKES MY
BLOOD BOIL BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ON DEMAND
HEALTHCARE, MAKING THAT ANALOGY TO CANCERS, DISRESPECTFUL TO
CANCER PATIENTS AND TO PEOPLE. AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING
ABOUT IS JUST ACCESS TO CARE. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK YOU SAW
THAT OUTRAGE IN JUSTICE JACKSON STATEMENT WHICH IS ONLY THE TIP
OF THE ICEBERG OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE GROUND. >> YEAH, MANY LET ME READ MORE
FROM AGAIN THIS DOCUMENT IN THIS DOCUMENT. THIS IS FROM
JUSTICE KETANJI BROWN JACKSON WHO WROTE A CONCURRING AND
DISSENTING OPINION. QUOTE, WE CANNOT SIMPLY WIND BACK THE
CLOCK TO HOW THINGS WERE BEFORE THE COURT INJECTED ITSELF INTO
THIS MATTER. OUR INTERVENTION HAS ALREADY DISTORTED THIS
LITIGATION PROCESS. WE PERMITTED IDAHO'S LAW TO GO
INTO EFFECT BY STAYING THE DISTRICT COURT'S INJUNCTION IN
THE FIRST PLACE THAT ALLOW THIS MATTER TO SIT ON OUR MERITS
DOCKET FOR 5 MONTHS, WE CONSIDERED THE QUESTION
PRESENTED. IT IS TOO LITTLE TOO LATE FOR THE COURT TO TAKE A
MULLIGAN AND JUST TELL THE LOWER COURTS TO CARRY ON AS IF
NONE OF THIS HAS HAPPENED. AS THE OLD ADAGE GOES, THE
COURT HAS MADE THIS BED SO NOW MUST LIE IN IT. WOW. >> BUT NOT AGREE WITH HER MORE.
I MEAN, LOOK, THIS IS THE COURT HAD A CHANCE TO DO THE RIGHT
THING HERE. THE COURT HAD A CHANCE TO RESOLVE THIS. YOU
KNOW, THIS CASE WAS ALL ABOUT PREEMPTION. YOU KNOW, THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE SAVE
WOMEN'S LIVES IN STATES WITH ABORTION BANS. HOW DO WE
PROVIDE AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE CRITICAL CARE LIFESAVING
CARE THEY NEED. IN THE CASES. THE DOCTOR PATEL JUST OUTLINED
THE COURT COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING ABOUT IT. INSTEAD,
IT'S COMPLETELY UNCONSCIONABLE THAT THEY'VE COME TO THIS.
IT IS IN SOME WAYS PROBABLY A BETTER OUTCOME THAN WHAT MANY
OF US EXPECTED FROM THIS COURT. BUT IT IS A SHORT TERM WHEN
ULTIMATELY WHAT WE NEED TO SEE HAPPEN IS ABORTION BANS LIFTED.
YOU KNOW, THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS DOING
EVERYTHING THEY CAN IN THE MARGINS TO PROTECT WOMEN'S
LIVES, BUT IT IS JUST SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH. THIS COURT IS NOT
TO BE TRUSTED. WE HAVE ASKED TO WIN A FEDERAL TRIFECTA TO
RE-ESTABLISH A RIGHT TO ABORTION IS THE ONLY SOLUTION.
IT IS DANGEROUS TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO GO TO THIS COURT.
AND THIS COURT HAS NOT SHOWN THE MAJORITY OF THIS COURT, ANY
WILLINGNESS TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THIS IS SO SIMILAR TO
THE MEDICATION ABORTIONS SITUATION AS WELL. YOU KNOW,
WHERE THEY JUST DISMISS THE CASE ON STANDING. BUT JUDGE
KAVANAUGH, A JUSTICE KAVANAUGH, A LAID OUT HOW TO CHALLENGE
MEDICAL MEDICATION, ABORTION THE NEXT TIME THEY ARE JUST NOT
WILLING TO MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS AFTER THE DEVASTATION
THAT THEY CREATED IN OVERTURNING ROE. >> I'M A PROUD CONSERVATIVE.
I ALWAYS HAVE THAT AS A PROUD CONSERVATIVE, I ALWAYS PUT
DEMOCRACY AND OUR CONSTITUTION ABOVE ALL ELSE. AND IT'S
BECAUSE OF MY UNWAVERING SUPPORT FOR DEMOCRACY THAT
TODAY AS A PROUD CONSERVATIVE, I'M ENDORSING JOE BIDEN FOR
REELECTION. >> HI AGAIN, EVERYONE. IT'S NOW
5 O'CLOCK IN THE EAST WORDS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
UNIMAGINABLE. JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, A STALWART SELF-DESCRIBED
CONSERVATIVE, A ONE-TIME TEA PARTY DARLING, CROSSING THE
POLITICAL AISLE TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY AS HE PUTS IT.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN HEADING INTO AN HISTORIC DEBATE
TOMORROW NIGHT AGAINST THE MAN WHO SOUGHT TO END DEMOCRACY. >> WINDS IN HIS SALES THANKS TO
AN ENDORSEMENT FROM A MEMBER OF THE OTHER POLITICAL PARTY.
FORMER CONGRESSMAN ADAM KINZINGER TELLING VOTERS THAT
DONALD TRUMP IS JUST TOO DANGEROUS TO BE SENT BACK TO
THE WHITE HOUSE. >> DONALD TRUMP POSES A DIRECT
THREAT TO EVERY FUNDAMENTAL AMERICAN VALUE ME LIKE HE
DOESN'T CARE ABOUT. OUR COUNTRY DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOU. HE ONLY
CARES ABOUT HIMSELF AND HE'LL HURT ANYONE OR ANYTHING IN
PURSUIT OF POWER GETS HACKED. THE FOUNDATION OF THIS NATION, COURAGE IN A VIOLENT MOB, HIS
SUPPORTERS TO MARCH ON THE CAPITAL TO PREVENT THE PEACEFUL
TRANSITION OF POWER. NOW HE'S BECOME EVEN MORE DANGEROUS.
HE'S CALLED FOR DETERMINATION OF THE CONSTITUTION. HE WANTS
TO BE A DICTATOR ON DAY ONE. HE ACTUALLY SAID THAT HE'S
CONTINUING TO STOKE THE FLAMES OF POLITICAL VIOLENCE. NOW'S
THE TIME TO UNITE BEHIND JOE BIDEN AND SHOULD DONALD TRUMP
OFF THE STAGE ONCE AND FOR ALL? >> PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN
RETREATING ADAM KINZINGER'S ENDORSEMENT AND SAYING THIS,
QUOTE, THIS IS WHAT PUTTING YOUR COUNTRY BEFORE YOUR PARTY
LOOKS LIKE. I'M GRATEFUL FOR YOUR ENDORSEMENT. ADAM. THIS
FULL-THROATED REPUDIATION OF DONALD TRUMP AND ENTHUSIASTIC
ENDORSEMENT OF PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN COMES FROM ONE OF THE 10
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO DID MORE THAN MERELY ANYONE ELSE IN
REVEALING THE INNER WORKINGS OF THE TRUMP COUP PLOT OF
TWENTY-TWENTY SHOWING THE ENTIRE NATION AND THE WORLD
THAT WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6 WASN'T SOME TRAGIC ACCIDENT.
IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT JUST WENT TOO FAR. IT WAS THE RESULT
OF MONTHS OF DELIBERATE PLOTTING ON THE PART OF DONALD
TRUMP AND SEEDING ALLY ON THE PART OF DONALD TRUMP THAT THE
ELECTION HE LOST WAS STOLEN FROM HIM. PUTTING THAT LINE THE
MINDS OF MILLIONS OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS AND THAT AS THE MOB
STORMED THE CAPITOL, TRUMP SAT BACK AND WATCHED HIS WORK. >> AT THE SAME TIME, THE
PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS ACKNOWLEDGING PRIVATELY THAT HE
LOST THE ELECTION. HE WAS HEARING THAT THERE WAS
NO EVIDENCE OF FRAUD OR IRREGULARITIES SUFFICIENT TO
CHANGE THE OUTCOME. THE PRESIDENT AND HIS ALLIES BECAME
KEENLY AWARE THAT WITH LEGAL CHALLENGES EXHAUSTED AND
ELECTORAL VOTES CERTIFIED, THEIR ONLY HOPE WOULD BE A LAST-DITCH SCHEME TO
PREVENT CONGRESS FROM CERTIFYING THE WIN THUS
THROWING THE ENTIRE SYSTEM IN THE CONSTITUTIONAL CHAOS.
PRESIDENT TRUMP ULTIMATELY ONE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO
SAY THE ELECTION WAS, QUOTE, CORRUPT AND QUOTE, LEAVE THE
REST TO ME. AND THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN, WE KNOW MANY OF
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S VOCAL SUPPORTERS ON JANUARY 6, ALSO
ONE OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO DO WHAT EVERY ASK AS LONG AS
IT MEANT HE COULD STAY IN POWER. PRESIDENT TRUMP DID NOT
FAIL TO ACT DURING THE 187 MINUTES BETWEEN LEAVING THE
ELLIPSE AND TELLING THE MOB TO GO HOME. HE CHOSE NOT TO ACT. >> HIS WORK ON THE JANUARY 6
SELECT COMMITTEE OR NOT AND CAN SINGER DONALD TRUMP'S OF RAS
BECAME ITS DEATH THREATS. THE ARC OF KINZINGER'S TIME IN
PUBLIC LIFE AFTER JANUARY, SEX STANDS IN STARK CONTRAST TO
SO MANY OF HIS FELLOW REPUBLICANS TO CHOOSE INSTEAD
TO OVERLOOK TRUMP'S ROLE IN PLOTTING THE INSURRECTION OR
MAKE EXCUSES OR GO STRAIGHT DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE OF TRUMP'S
CONSPIRACIES AROUND THE TRAIN 20 ELECTION. NOW ADAM KINZINGER
IS SPEAKING TO MANY OF HIS FELLOW REPUBLICANS OUT THERE
WHO MAY BE LOOKING FOR THAT PERMISSION STRUCTURE TO PULL
THE LEVER AND CROSSOVER AND VOTE JUST THIS ONE TIME MAYBE
FOR PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN SAYING, QUOTE, THERE'S TOO MUCH AT
STAKE TO SIT ON THE SIDELINES. THAT'S WHERE WE START THE HOUR.
SOME OF OUR FAVORITE EXPERTS AND FRIENDS, FORMER REPUBLICAN
CONGRESSMAN MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST DAVID JOLLY'S HERE.
ALSO JOINING US, MSNBC COLUMNIST AND CONTRIBUTOR
CHARLIE SYKES IS HERE AND DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST AND
PRESIDENT OF BRILLIANT CORNERS RESEARCH, MSNBC POLITICAL
ALICE. CORNELL BELCHER IS HERE. I WANT TO START WITH YOU, DAVID
JOLLY AND I WANT TO DISPEL THE NOTION
THAT PEOPLE LIKE ADAM KINZINGER ARE JUDGE ALLUDED ARE LIZ
CHENEY OR SQUISHY AND COULD GO EITHER WAY POLICY. THE 3 OF
THEM IN PARTICULAR, HARD-CORE RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVES TO SEE
A CONSTITUTIONAL AND A DEMOCRACY ARGUMENT IN NOT JUST
ABANDONING JOE BIDEN, I'M ABANDONING DONALD TRUMP BUT
EMBRACING AND ENDORSING A CANDIDATE. LIZ CHENEY HASN'T
TAKEN THAT STEP YET, BUT SHE CERTAINLY SEEMS TO BE INCHING
IN THAT DIRECTION AS THIS JUDGE LOOTED. BUT JUST TALK ABOUT
TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT OF OF NOT JUST SORT OF WEARING THE NEVER
TRUMP JERSEY BUT OF BECOMING A FIGHT AND SUPPORTER FOR ADAM
KINZINGER. >> YEAH, I LOVE YOUR FRAMING
THE COLD BECAUSE NOT ALL NEVER TRUMPERS OR DISAFFECTED
REPUBLICANS ARE HARD RIGHT CONSERVATIVES, RIGHT? I I WAS
INITIALLY A SQUISHY MODERATE. I I'M STILL SQUISHY MODERATE.
HAPPY TO ALLY WITH WITH DEMOCRATS AND JOE BIDEN.
BUT THE LIKES OF ADAM KINZINGER AND LIZ CHENEY AND LOADED AND
OTHERS. THEY HAVE A REAL IDEOLOGICAL RESERVATIONS.
THEY OPPOSE A LOT OF WHAT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION DOES.
THESE ARE NOT SQUISHY MODERATE. AND SO THE THE IMPORT OF THAT
IS THEY'RE ACTING ON CONVICTIONS AND PUT DEMOCRACY
IN THE COUNTRY FIRST AND THEIR VIEW OF THE WORLD. AND IT'S YOU
KNOW WHAT, YOU OFTEN TALK ABOUT THE PERMISSION STRUCTURE FOR
HARD-RIGHT CONSERVATIVES WHO MAY HAVE POSED ON A JOE BIDEN
ON POLICY, RECOGNIZING THAT IN THEIR VIEW OF THE WORLD OR
SOMETHING GREATER. I THINK THE OTHER IMPORTANT THING THAT
WE'RE SEEING HERE AND IT'S BEEN WELL REPORTED THAT ADAMS,
FORMER CHIEF HAS GONE OVER TO THE BIDEN CAMP TO HELP
ORGANIZING COALESCE DISAFFECTED REPUBLICANS. WE SEE THE
ENDORSEMENT NOW OF THE FORMER CONGRESSMAN ABSOLUTELY LIVING
IN THAT FORMER REPUBLICAN MEMBER WORLD. I CAN TELL YOU
THE UPTICK IN ACTIVITY AMONG THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN TO REACH OUT
TO DISAFFECTED REPUBLICANS, EVEN CURRENTLY REGISTERED
REPUBLICANS THAT UPTICK IN ISRAEL. AND IF WE'RE SEEING IT
AT THE GRASS TOPS, IF YOU WILL, THE FORMER ELECTED, YOU KNOW,
THEY ALSO HAVE A PLAN FOR DIGITAL TARGETED TO REACH THAT
NIKKI HALEY VOTER WHO WHO SAID I CAN'T VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP
AT THE BIDEN CAMP IS REACHING OUT AND KENSINGER. THEY'RE
REACHING ADAM KINZINGER'S COUSINS DOWN THERE. THE OTHER
DISAFFECTED VOTERS IN YOU MAY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF. AND THAT'S
AN IMPORTANT MOMENT FOR THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN TO MAKE THAT
MOVE. >> I MEAN, CHARLIE, THE RIGHT
CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE SORT OF NEVER TRUMP
COALITION I I TO SQUISH AND WAS NEVER SUPER COMFORTABLE WITH
THE HARD-RIGHT POSITIONS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. VOTING FOR
HILLARY CLINTON WAS THE EASIEST VOTE I EVER CAST A LOT OF
REPUBLICANS, THOUGH, THE HARDEST THING I'VE EVER DONE IS
THAT ONE LOOK AT DONALD TRUMP. IT WAS THE EASIEST VOTE I EVER
CAST FOLLOWED VERY CLOSELY BY FAYAD THAT, YOU KNOW, TIE FOR
THE EASIEST VOTE I EVER CAST FOR JOE BIDEN AND DONALD TRUMP
IS SUCH A GLARING THREAT TO ANY REPUBLICAN HAS BEEN ACTIVE IN
THE LAST 20 YEARS WHO SAW DEMOCRACY IS AS THIS CAUSE
WORTHY OF TRYING TO EXPORT MEAN THE HYPOCRISY, THE RANK
HYPOCRISY NEWS THAT REPUBLICANS OWE MORE TO THE COUNTRY, THEY
OWE MORE TO THE DEMOCRACY TO TRY TO UNDO REPUBLICAN SUPPORT
FOR TRUMP. >> WELL, ANAND, ADAM IS SO
CLEAR HIS MESS THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS REALLY STRUCK BY THE
CLARITY OF HIS MESSAGE ABOUT THE DANGER THAT DONALD TRUMP
POSES. YOU KNOW, AND TO TO DAVID'S POINT, THOUGH, THIS IS
NOT EASY FOR PEOPLE LIKE ADAM CAN TO GET ON EVEN THE LATE
JUDGE LOOTING AND AND LIZ CHENEY, BECAUSE THEY ARE
CONSERVATIVES, THEY DO NOT EMBRACE THE ENTIRE BIDEN
AGENDA. YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT WAVING
POMPOMS HERE. BUT THEY HAVE LOOK AT EXACTLY WHAT DONALD
TRUMP HAS DONE, WHAT HE IS SAYING HE'S GOING TO DO IN THE
PROSPECTS OF ANOTHER TRUMP PRESIDENCY. AND SO I DO THINK
THAT IT'S SIGNIFICANT. AND I DO THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE
MORE OF MORE REPUBLICANS JOIN. AND AGAIN, THE FACT THAT THESE
ARE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS IS CRUCIAL FOR PROVIDING THAT
PERMISSION THAT THAT YOU'LL GO TO CONSERVATIVES WILL LIST ALL
THE THINGS THEY DON'T LIKE ABOUT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
AND SAY, OK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AND
LEFT RIGHT NOW. THIS IS ABOUT THAT VERTICAL, YOU KNOW, THAT
THAT THAT THE VERTICAL LINE OF DEMOCRACY AND AUTHORITARIANISM.
AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND THINK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE YOU
KNOW, ADAM KINZINGER FALLS IN ALL OF THIS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD
SO MANY OTHER REPUBLICANS SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING
TO VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP AGAIN NOW, MIKE PENCE HASN'T GONE AS
FAR AS AND CONSIDER, BUT IT IS EXTRAORDINARY THAT YOU HAVE THE
DONALD TRUMP'S FORMER VICE PRESIDENT SAYING HE WILL NOT
VOTE FOR HIM. IT IS EXTRAORDINARY WHEN YOU HAVE
KNOWN OF MEMBERS OF THE THE TRUMP CABINET SAYING WE DO NOT
WANT HIM BACK IN POWER AGAIN AND THERE WILL BE MORE. AND I
WOULD EXPECT THAT YOU'RE GOING HEAR FROM LIZ CHENEY AND SO
GOING INTO NOVEMBER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMPELLING CASE
OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OF OUR CROSSING THE LINES AND SAYING,
LOOK, WE'RE PUTTING OUR IDEOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES ASIDE
FOR THIS MOMENT BECAUSE OF WHAT DONALD TRUMP REPRESENTS AND
BEING IN THE THREAT TO OUR REPUBLICAN SYSTEM OF
GOVERNMENT, THE REPRESENTS. >> WHY WOULD AMERICANS ASSUME
THAT OUR CONSTITUTION AND OUR INSTITUTIONS IN OUR REPUBLIC
ARE INVULNERABLE TO ANOTHER ATTACK? A KEY LESSON OF THIS
INVESTIGATION IS THIS. OUR INSTITUTIONS ONLY HOLD WHEN
MEN AND WOMEN OF GOOD FAITH MAKE THEM HOLD REGARDLESS OF
THE POLITICAL COST. WE HAVE NO GUARANTEE THAT THESE
MEN AND WOMEN WILL BE IN PLACE NEXT TIME. ANY FUTURE PRESIDENT INCLINED
TO ATTEMPT WHAT DONALD TRUMP DID IN 2020 HAS NOW LEARNED NOT TO INSTALL
PEOPLE WHO COULD STAND IN THE WAY. >> AS FORMER CONGRESSWOMAN AND
JANUARY 6 SELECT COMMITTEE, VICE CHAIR LIZ CHENEY SOUNDING
THE ALARM ABOUT THE ALL TOO DANGEROUS LESSONS THAT THE
DISGRACED EX PRESIDENT AND HIS ALLIES LEARNED FROM THEIR FIRST
FAILED ATTEMPT TO STEAL AN ELECTION. NOW BRAND NEW
REPORTING THE WASHINGTON POST HAS UNCOVERED A WIDESPREAD
EFFORT BY GOP OFFICIALS TO BLOCK CERTIFICATION OF ELECTION
RESULTS IN KEY BATTLEGROUND STATES. POST RIGHT SAYS QUOTE,
SINCE 2020 COUNTY LEVEL ELECTION OFFICIALS IN 5 KEY
BATTLEGROUND STATES, GEORGIA, ARIZONA, MICHIGAN, NEVADA AND
PENNSYLVANIA HAVE TRIED TO BLOCK THE CERTIFICATION OF VOTE
TALLIES IN BOTH PRIMARIES AND GENERAL ELECTIONS. WELL, SO FAR
THESE EFFORTS HAVE FAILED. THEY COULD UPEND THE NEXT
ELECTION QUOTE. BUT IN RIGHTS ADVOCATES BELIEVE THAT
UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS OF FRAUD BY TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES ARE
SOWING EVEN DEEPER MISTRUST IN THE FALL ELECTION RESULTS.
AND THEY DID 4 YEARS AGO RAISING THE POTENTIAL FOR
UNREST AND EVEN VIOLENCE ON A GREATER SCALE, TOO. AND AS LIZ
CHENEY WARNS, MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO STOP TRUMP IN 2020
ARE NO LONGER THERE HAD BEEN REPLACED WITH TRUE BELIEVERS OF
DONALD TRUMP AND THE BIG LIE. 20 US NOW BOATING RIGHTS
ATTORNEY, THE FOUNDER OF THE SITE, DEMOCRACY DOCKET, MARC
ELIAS. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS JUST THIS WEEK
ABOUT ONE THIS SORT OF LOWELL AND THE CHATTER AROUND DOMESTIC
VIOLENT EXTREMISM TIED TO THE BIG LIE. WE DUG INTO WHAT'S
BEING PADDLES TO TRUMP SUPPORTERS ON FOX NEWS AND IT'S
THE CERTAINTY THAT TRUMP WILL WIN AND IF HE DOESN'T, IT'S
FRAUD THAT FEELS LIKE AN EVEN DEEPER AND MORE DANGEROUS LINE
THAN WHAT THEY TOWED IN 2020, WHICH WAS MORE. WE THINK WE'RE
GOING TO WIN. IF WE DOUBT WILL GO LOOK AND MANUFACTURE FRAUD.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE TRACKS THAT ARE BEING LAID BY
TRUMP? >> I AM VERY, VERY WORD.
THE FACT IS THAT AFTER THE VIOLENT INSURRECTION ON JANUARY
6 REPUBLICANS HAD A CHOICE. THEY COULD EITHER BACK AWAY
FROM THE BRINK. IT COULD DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM DONALD
TRUMP AND HIS LIES. THEY COULD TELL THE TRUTH, WHICH WAS THAT
DONALD TRUMP LOST THE TWENTY-TWENTY ELECTION FAIR AND
SQUARE OR THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY EVENTUALLY DID, WHICH IS TO
DOUBLE DOWN ON THE LIES, WHICH IS TO SAY WITH MORE
CERTAINTY THAT DONALD TRUMP WON 2021, HE GET IT AND TO INSIST
THAT THERE IS SOME BROAD, DEEP STATE CONSPIRACY, WHATEVER
THAT MEANS TO DENY DONALD TRUMP THE THE ELECTION AGAIN IN 2024.
AND SO THIS HAS BEEN BUILDING SLOWLY. YOU KNOW, THE
WASHINGTON POST TALKS ABOUT THE ATTACKS ON CERTIFICATION.
LET'S REMEMBER, IT WAS RONNA MCDANIEL AND DONALD TRUMP GOT
ON THE PHONE WITH THE 2 REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE WAYNE
COUNTY CANVASSING BOARD IN 2020 TO TRY TO CONVINCE THEM NOT TO
CERTIFY THE ELECTION RESULTS WHEN THAT FAILED, THEY THE
REPUBLICANS TRIED TO GET THE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE
STATEWIDE CANVASSING BOARD NOT TO CERTIFY THAT ALMOST
SUCCEEDED, BUT IT FAILED IN 2022. COCHISE COUNTY, ARIZONA,
REFUTE CERTIFIED THE ELECTION RESULTS WITH MY LAW FIRM AND IT
SUED THEM TO FORCE THEM TO CERTIFY THOSE ELECTION.
OFFICIALS HAVE NOW BEEN INDICTED BY THE STATE'S IN
PENNSYLVANIA. 3, 3, COUNTIES REFUSED TO CERTIFY IN THE
PRIMARY ELECTION. ONE COUNTY LUZERNE COUNTY REFUSED TO
CERTIFY IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. WE SUED THEM AND
FORCE THEM TO CERTIFY THIS HAS BEEN BUILDING OVER AND OVER
AGAIN BUILDING UP AND UP RATHER. BUT IT'S MUCH MORE
DANGEROUS FOR 2024 BECAUSE THE TRUE BELIEVERS, AS YOU POINT
OUT, ARE NOW MORE FIRMLY IN CONTROL OF THESE OFFICES.
