>> AS DONALD TRUMP SET A NEW
YORK COURTROOM IN HIS 2016 ELECTION INTERFERENCE TRIAL.
ONE OF HIS OTHER LEGAL TEAMS IN WASHINGTON, D.C., ARGUING
BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT THAT HE SHOULD HAVE IMMUNITY FROM
HIS 2020 ELECTION INTERFERENCE CASE. NOW, AS WE SAID LAST NIGHT ON
OUR SPECIAL PROGRAM LAST NIGHT, THE ARGUMENTS WERE FRANKLY
SHOCKING, MANY LEGAL OBSERVERS, PEOPLE I KNOW PERSONALLY WHO OR
WHAT NO ILLUSIONS ABOUT THIS COURT GENUINELY TAKEN ABACK BY THE FACT THE CONSERVATIVE
JUSTICES SEEMED TO BE ALMOST OPENLY COLLUDING WITH DONALD
TRUMP. REALLY CONCEPTUALIZE IN THE PRESIDENT IN REAL TIME AS A
SORT OF LAWLESS DICTATOR AND JUST IGNORING ALL THE
CONSTITUTIONAL TEXTUAL HISTORICAL EVIDENCE THAT POINTS
IN THE OTHER DIRECTION. TO MY MIND, ONE OF THE MOST
GALLING THINGS AND DIDN'T GET MENTIONED YESTERDAY DURING ORAL
ARGUMENTS. BUT IT'S IT'S WORTH MENTIONING HERE IS THAT DURING
DONALD TRUMP'S OWN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL FOR THIS VERY MATTER, HIS
ATTEMPTS TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION, HIS OWN LAWYER BEFORE THE NATION BEFORE THE
SENATE ARGUED THE LITERAL OPPOSITE OF WHAT HIS LAWYER IS
NOW ARGUING TO THE SUPREME COURT. >> THE SENATOR FROM TEXAS
QUESTION RAISES A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT POINT. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A
JANUARY EXCEPTION TO IMPEACHMENT. THERE IS ONLY THE TEXT OF THE
CONSTITUTION WHICH MAKES VERY CLEAR THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT
IS SUBJECT TO CRIMINAL SANCTION AFTER HIS PRESIDENCY FOR ANY ILLEGAL ACTUALLY
COMMITS. >> YOU DID NOT LOOSENING THAT.
THAT WAS DONALD TRUMP'S LAWYER IN THE SENATE SAYING THE
FOLLOWING. THE TEXT OF THE CONSTITUTION MAKES VERY CLEAR
THAT OUR FORMER PRESIDENT IS SUBJECT TO CRIMINAL SANCTION
AFTER HIS PRESIDENCY FOR ANY LEGAL ILLEGAL ACTS HE COMMITS. THAT WAS THE ARGUMENT TRUMP'S
LAWYERS USE IN 2021 TO HELP AVOID CONVICTION. THE SENATE
DON'T WORRY. YOU CAN VOTE TO ACQUIT HIM. AND WE ALL STILL
KNOW BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUS THAT HE COULD FACE CRIMINAL
SANCTIONS. NOW HIS LAWYERS ACROSS THE
STREET IN THE SUPREME COURT 3 YEARS LATER ARE MAKING
LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE ARGUMENT. 2 ARE RECEPTIVE SUPREME COURT, AS YOU KNOW, BUT WE PUT IT IN
THE NEW YORK TIMES. TRUMP HAS ASKED THE SUPREME COURT IF HE
IS IN EFFECT KING AND AT LEAST 4 MEMBER OF THE COURT. AMONG
THEM, THE SO-CALLED REAL ISSA SAID IN ESSENCE, A LOT TO THINK
ABOUT. ALTHOUGH OPINION COLUMNIST FOR
THE NEW YORK TIMES JOINS ME NOW TO ABOUT I LOVE YOUR COLUMN
TODAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY FANTASTIC WORKED.
ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKED ABOUT IT WAS ALL THE HISTORICAL
EVIDENCE YOU ENTERED, WHICH WAS BIZARRE. LEE, ABSENT
FROM ALL THE ORIGINAL LISTENING, YOU GOT TRUMP'S
LAWYER CLEANING AT THE LIFE RAFT TO ONE BEN FRANKLIN QUOTE,
WHICH HE KEEPS THROWING OUT THERE EVERY TIME WHEN THERE'S
JUST AN ENORMOUS CORPUS OF WRITING FROM FOLKS WHO ARE
ACTUALLY AT THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION WERE AT STATE
CONVENTION SAYING EARLY SUPREME COURT JUSTICE SAYING LIKE
OBVIOUSLY THE PRESENCE AND YOU. >> I PULLED OUT FROM THE GREAT
HISTORIAN SPREE FROM THE GRAND KIND OF I THE COLLECTION OF
REALLY ACTS. AND HISTORIANS PUT TOGETHER A BRIEF WITH THE
BRENNAN CENTER BASICALLY KIND OF LAYING OUT HERE IS ALL THE
EVIDENCE. AND SO THE CLAIM THAT THE PRESIDENT IS SORT OF
CRIMINALLY IMMUNE, BUT ON IT CAN BE FULLY HONEST WITH YOU.
I EVEN DOING THAT FEELS LIKE AN ACTION LIKE A SILLY EXERCISE IS
YES, TO SOME EXTENT BECAUSE BECAUSE IT'S JUST TO ME AT
LEAST SELF EVIDENT THAT THE PRESIDENT IS CRIMINALLY LIABLE
FOR ILLEGAL ACTS LIKE PRESIDENT DEFENDED THE PRESIDENT WHO HAS
CRIMINAL IMMUNITY. SO THE PRESIDENT IS A CIVIL OFFICER
UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. IF THAT PERSON'S CRIMINAL OF UNITY,
THERE ARE NO LONGER PRESIDENT BY DEFINITION THEY THEY ARE
KING THERE. SOME OTHER THING THAT STANDS ABOVE THE ENTIRE
SYSTEM. BUT THEY'RE NOT THE PRESIDENT INTO CERTAINLY SYSTEM
BREAKING TO SUPPOSE THAT THE PRESIDENT IT'S ABOVE THE LAW IN ANY ANY
ANY SENSE. AND SO YOU CAN MARSHAL ALL THIS HISTORICAL
EVIDENCE. I THINK IT'S WORTH DOING. IT'S WORTH SHOWING IN
DETAIL, RIGHT THAT THE PEOPLE WHO CONSTRUCTED THIS THING
THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT THE SPECIFIC QUESTION AND DAVIS,
PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD INJURIES. AND THAT REALLY
REQUIRE ANY INTERPRETATION. BUT ALSO BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING
THAT WAS SON BY DEFINITION, THE PRESIDENT
HAS TO BE RIGHTLY ACCOUNTABLE. >> YEAH, THIS REALLY IS A KIND
OF GO WITH YOUR GUT SITUATION. WHAT IS YOUR INTUITION ABOUT?
THIS IS CORRECT. AS AN AMERICAN, AS YOU KNOW, THE WE
THREW OFF FROM THE TYRANNY OF THE MONARCH LIKE NO ONE IS
ABOVE THE LAW LIKE THAT IS CORRECT. AND THAT'S WHAT THE
LOWER COURTS FOUND THE OTHER WAY. I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT'S
IT FEELS LIKE SHADOW BOXING IS. AND THIS I THINK WAS WHAT WAS
SO APPALLING ABOUT OUR NEWS YESTERDAY AS THEY DO. IT FEELS
LIKE THE FIX IS IN THAT IT'S IT'S COOKED. YOU KNOW, THAT
THEY DON'T THEY'RE NOT REALLY LISTENING OR OR OR REASONING LEGALLY WHAT
THEY'RE DOING IS TRYING TO FIND OUT. >> FOR HIM, RIGHT, RIGHT.
I MEAN, I THINK IT MEANT THE BIG THE BIG TELL THE GIVEAWAY
THAT THEY REFUSE TO DEAL WITH THE FACTS AND QUESTION IF YOU
REFUSE TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL SITUATION, YES, THAT WE'RE
FACING, THAT THEY'RE SPENDING THESE HYPOTHETICAL. WHAT IF
PRESIDENT, YOU KNOW, IS AFRAID OF BIG PROSECUTED AND THEY'RE
GOING TO STAY IN OFFICE. IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT?
IT'S NOT LIKE WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IS THAT THE PRESIDENT
THAT WAS DEFEATED IN AN ELECTION AND THEN REFUSED TO
LEAVE AND SOME OF THE MOB TO OVERTURN THE THE PROCESS.
I WISH HE IS SUPPOSED TO LEAVE AND THAT WASN'T BECAUSE HE WAS
AFRAID OF PROSECUTION AND DONALD TRUMP AND JUST LIKE WHEN
GENTLY OFF INTO THE NIGHT AFTER LOSING, HE COULD STILL ROOM FOR REAL
RUN AGAIN, LIKE NO ONE WOULD KNOW HIM WITH CARE RIDE.
THERE WOULDN'T BE A PROSECUTION. THIS IS HAPPENING
BECAUSE HE TRIED TO OVERTURN THE PROCESS INTO THIS ISN'T
SOME SORT OF A VENGEFUL, YOU KNOW, BY AND SOME VENGEFUL
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT GOING AFTER TRUMP BECAUSE THE SIGNS OF
BILLS THEY DIDN'T LIKE. IT'S BECAUSE HE HE HE DID SOMETHING
GENUINELY TRANSGRESSIVE AND SYSTEM THREATENING. AND THE
FACT THAT THE COURT JUST DECIDED THAT THIS DIDN'T
MATTER, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ATTRACTIONS IN
HYPOTHETICALS LIKE THIS IS A LAW SCHOOL CLASS IS. I THINK
YOU'RE RIGHT. IT IS THE TELL IT IS TELLING US THAT THE FIX
ISN'T THAT THEY THAT THE DISTRICT TRYING TO FIND A WAY
TO NOT HAVE TO COME DOWN H*** O* TRUMP. >> I WILL. BUT IT ALSO FELL A
LITTLE BIT LIKE I WAS IN A IN A SORT OF LIKE LEFTY, POSTMODERN
UNDERGRAD CLASSROOM, WHERE LIKE, YEAH, THERE THERE ARE
CERTAIN LIKE, WELL, WHO DO WHAT PRESIDENT DOESN'T BREAK THE
LAW? THEY'RE ALL CROOKS. REALLY. IT'S LIKE TO BELIEVE
THAT SUPREME COURT BY CAR AND THEY ALL CORRECT, LIKE, OH, NO,
I DON'T KNOW THAT. THAT'S NOT WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE THEY
UP. THE LAST THING HERE JUST BRIEFLY IS I THINK YOU AND I
SHARE THAT PART OF WHAT WAS UPSETTING TO IS THAT THIS ISN'T OVER YET. AND I'M
WORRIED ABOUT THIS COURT LIKE DEFINITELY WORRIED ABOUT WHAT
THEY HAVE SET UP FOR US IN THE FUTURE. >> YOU KNOW, AT THE VERY LEAST, THEY BELIEVE THAT THE DELAY,
THE TRIAL, THE TRIAL WILL BE DELAYED. THE PUBLIC WILL NOT BE
ABLE TO GET A SENSE KNOW THAT IF A JURY OF CITIZENS RIGHT
BESIDE THAT TRUMP IS GUILTY HERE TO THINK IS IMPORTANT
INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW. AND IT'S ALSO IN THE
TRUMP COULD WIN IN NOVEMBER. IT'S SETTING UP A
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS. STARTED SETTING UP A SITUATION IN WHICH
TRUMP HILLS AND TRIED TO KILL THE
INVESTIGATION. YEAH, THAT THAT THEY WERE ENTERING A WHOLE NEW,
A WHOLE NEW CHAPTER OF AMERICAN HISTORY AND A BAD WAY. YEAH,
ALTHOUGH I AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU, SIR. >> AS WE'VE NOTED MANY TIMES ON
THIS SHOW, TEXAS REPUBLICAN TED CRUZ SEEMS TO HAVE ONE FOOT OUT
OF THE DOOR OF THE U.S. SENATE. HE'S TURNED HIS POWERFUL
ELECTED POSITION INTO ESSENTIALLY A PART-TIME JOB.
WELL, HE FOCUSES HIS EFFORTS ON MORE SATISFIED WORK. OF COURSE
I'M TALKING ABOUT IS PODCAST THE BIG COMFY CHAIR WITH TED
CRUZ. SENATOR RECORDS 3 EPISODES A
WEEK WHICH IS NOT NOTHING. CERTAINLY SOUNDS LIKE A LOT
FROM A SENATOR FROM THE SECOND MOST POPULOUS STATE IN THE
COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE OF A TIGHT RACE FOR REELECTION NOW BE ON THE WEIRDNESS
DEVOTING SO MUCH OF HIS TIME TO HIS SIDE. HUSTLE CRUISE'S PODCASTING HABIT
RAISES SOME SERIOUS ETHICAL AND LEGAL QUESTIONS WHO IS ACTUALLY PRODUCING THE
PROGRAM AND WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE MONEY IT GENERATES.
WE HAVE SOME FASCINATING NEW ANSWERS BACK IN 2022. CREWS
PARTNERED WITH IHEARTRADIO THE NUMBER ONCE INDICATOR OF U.S.
RADIO PROGRAMMING REACHING 245 MILLION PEOPLE. EACH MONTH
I HEART WOULD BANKROLL THE WHOLE OPERATION. ALTHOUGH CRUZ
AIDES AND I HEARD EXECUTIVES DIDN'T PROVIDE DETAILS OF THE
DEAL INCLUDING HOW MUCH CREWS WILL BE PAID FOR THE RIGHTS TO
THE PODCAST. IT WAS A MURKY BUT IMPORTANT
ISSUE CONCERNING THE SENATE'S STRICT RULES ON OUTSIDE
EMPLOYMENT. YOU CAN'T JUST LIKE HAVE ANOTHER JOB. THERE ARE
WHOLE PAGES ABOUT THIS IN THE SENATE CODE OF CONDUCT. SO HOW
DO YOU GET AROUND THAT? AS WE RECENTLY LEARNED, YOU PAY TED
CRUZ'S SUPER PAC RATHER THAN TED CRUZ AND STUFF AS THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS
EXPLAINS SINCE MARCH 2023, THE PRO CRUZ TRUTH AND COURAGE
PAC HAS RECEIVED A SERIES OF INCREASINGLY LARGER PAYMENTS
FROM I HEART MEDIA MANAGEMENT SERVICES INC. THE TOTAL MORE
THAN $630,000. THAT'S ABOUT A 3RD OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF
MONEY. THE PACK REPORTS RAISING SINCE THE BEGINNING OF 2023, A
SPOKESPERSON FOR AN I HEART SUBSIDIARY CALLED PREMIERE
NETWORKS SAID IN A STATEMENT THAT CREWS VOLUNTEERS HIS TIME
TO HOST A PODCAST AND ISN'T COMPENSATED FOR IT. SHE FURTHER EXPLAINED THEY SELL
ADVERTISING TIME FOR THE PODCAST AND THE MONEY BEING
DIRECTED TO THE TRUTH. AND COURAGE PACK IS, QUOTE,
ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE ADVERTISING SALES AND A LOCAL NEWS OUTLET
CONFRONTED CREWS WITH THIS INFORMATION. THE SENATOR GOT
VERY DEFENSIVE. >> SO EVEN ENTITY WHICH EMPLOYS
LOBBYISTS IS GIVING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR TO
YEAR RE-ELECTION EFFORTS. HOW CAN YOU SAY YOU'RE NOT
BEING COMPENSATED? >> YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IS SAD WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THE MEDIA,
WHICH IS THE MEDIA EXIST RIGHT NOW SEEMINGLY TO AND LEFT-WING
DEMOCRAT ATTACKS. THE GROUP THAT BROUGHT THAT ATTACK IS A
LEFT-WING DEMOCRAT ATTACK GROUP. >> MAKES SENSE IS TOUCHY
BECAUSE THE ARRANGEMENT MAY WELL VIOLATE ELECTION LAWS.
CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAWYER EXPLAINS INDEPENDENT SUPER PACS
ARE BARRED FROM COORDINATING WITH CANDIDATES AND CAMPAIGNS.
THEY SUPPORT CANDIDATES ARE ALSO LIMITED IN HOW MUCH MONEY
THEY CAN SOLICIT FOR SUPER PACS AND ARE PROHIBITED FROM
SOLICITING CORPORATE DONATIONS TO THEM. IT'S HARD TO SEE HOW
TED CRUZ'S THRICE WEEKLY PODCAST OWNED AND PRODUCED BY
HIS SUPER PAC, WHICH TAKES IN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS FROM IT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE COURTNEY ASIAN OR
SOLICITING DONATIONS. THAT'S GOT EVERYONE ASKING. WHY IS
THIS HAPPENING? NO, I'M SORRY. THAT'S MY
PODCAST. ACTUALLY. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH
THE QR CODE THERE OR EVER GET YOUR PODCAST. BUT I DIGRESS. THE TED CRUZ
DEAL THAT DEAL MAY ALSO BE IN VIOLATION OF THE ETHICS IN
GOVERNMENT ACT. IN FACT, THE CAMPAIGN LEGAL CENTER FILED
A COMPLAINT WITH THE SENATE ETHICS COMMITTEE ASKING IT TO
INVESTIGATE WHETHER CRUZ'S DISGUISING SPEAKING FEES AS
PAYMENTS TO A SUPER PAC IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW AND SENATE
RULES. SO NOT ONLY TED CRUZ'S
PODCASTING HABIT. WEIRD, I THINK A LITTLE
INSULTING TO THE 30 MILLION TEXANS HE REPRESENTS PRESUMABLY
FULL TIME. IT ALSO APPEARS TO BE A SERIOUS ETHICAL AND
CAMPAIGN FINANCE SCANDAL IN THE MAKING
