Was Silk Road Founder Framed for Murder By Corrupt Cops?

the jurogan experience and nobody quite knows okay who is it that inherited it and there are those people who say hey this wasn't ross that ordered these hits you know this was like nobody knows who's behind the keys at the time anything has happened so there are those people who who completely deny you know his family completely denies the culpability and who knows we'll never know that is a problem when you're dealing with corrupt cops too right like they literally could have faked him doing that we don't know what has he denied that he called hits we should explain to people that haven't seen the film spoiler alert uh it goes off the rails for ross for young ross and uh at one point in time one of his the guy he's working with gets busted and rats him out and then the cops are using that guy's account and communicating with him and he orders a hit on that guy and the guy gets to see it and it's like holy [ __ ] i can't believe this who knows how much of that is real and how much is not but the problem is you're dealing with corrupt cops and if the corrupt cops wanted to frame him for something that's going to put him away for a long time just running the website and allowing people a portal where they can do this and sell things is not quite good enough but if you can get a guy to literally call for murder not once but twice then you've really got him locked up we don't know though did he deny that he called those well and not only not only did he deny it but um what happened was so so to back up a step basically the the corrupt cop you know in the movie the corrupt cop at a certain point sets out to bust ross and then as at a certain point he's like kind of getting [ __ ] blocked by his superiors and whatever and so he's he says okay i'm going to rip this kid off instead if i can't bust him i'm going to steal the money and i'm going to use it for my own purposes but what ends up happening is and all of that information by the way the the fake murder of his employee and the photographs that were taken of it all that stuff is true that's all in the real story and as we're shooting the movie we have access to the actual faked murder photos where what does it look like it looks like it's available online can we see it yeah it's available online oh we need to see that right now see if you can find the curtis clark green uh murder photos fake murder photos what was his uh online name chronic pain appropriately enough did he look like that guy the fat guy with the creature he does and i love that and that actor is amazing amazing he was in uh eastwood put him in um richard jewell and he was in spike lee's last movie um he's just he's one of those guys richard jewell yeah he played richard jewell and he's fantastic really good i mean he seemed like the quintessential internet couch monster working with that guy was so fun you know because like again we had the you know we had information about the real guy and what happened was when that guy gets busted when chronic pain gets busted in this article it said he had a chihuahua and the chihuahua's going bat [ __ ] barking crazy as the feds are kicking in the door or whatever and we're sitting there and i'm thinking like man chihuahua going bat [ __ ] on set that's going to screw up the dialogue what do we do so i'm talking to paul and paul's like what if we give him a ferret instead and i'm like ferret dude let's go ferret you know and then the other the other brilliant thing that paul did was he said you know all of this like you know all this online chatter where it's you know you're typing on the computer and then the other person types back he's like what if the dude's a mumbler so he's kind of saying this [ __ ] out loud the whole time that he's talking and he starts talking to himself so once he had the ferret and made the guy a mumbler he had like the keys to the character um yeah he nailed it it was great everything down to the fanny pack it was beautiful the um the the so the dialogue between all the dialogue that you show on on screen was actually real dialogue yeah so in the movie you have ross calling for this guy's murder did did you struggle with that at all if ross says he never did that and he believe did what what was his theory well i think okay so there's a couple of important points one is the feds never charged him with attempted murder they put it you know ross ended up getting sentenced to two life sentences plus 40 years without the possibility of parole and this is a crazy fact which is considerably harsher than what el chapo was sentenced to right jesus christ and so they really you know they threw the book at this guy and buried him and yeah for a plea he had he did he was offered a deal at a certain point and he turned it down because i think it was 10 years jesus christ kid i know and that well and here this is a crazy so this is a crazy story so starting out with um you know you had asked me if i had reached out to him so i reached out to him when he was locked up in mcc new york awaiting sentencing and then all the way through he was hoping to you know waiting the case was working its way through the appeals process so um and then finally he was hoping that trump was going to pardon him and there was a big kind of hullabaloo okay is trump going to pardon this pardon him on his last day in office and he didn't and i will and i was sitting there watching the news waiting to see if he would and i woke up the next day and i was like man i'm going to look i'm going to look it up and so i went on to the bureau of prison's website and i typed in ross's name and it comes up you know tucson penitentiary and then it said release date colon life and it just like it hit me you know this kid's 36 years old he's 10 years younger than i am and just staring down the barrel of that and so i sat down even though the movie's you know coming out or whatever at the time and i decide you know what i owe this guy and some fun like just human being man to man so i write him a letter and i said listen man i've made this movie and this is my portrait of you and my portrait of your story and of silk road um and it's you know it's coming out into the world but if you ever want to tell your version of the story in any form or fashion you want to do it as a rolling stone interview you want to do it as a documentary you want to do it any way you want you tell me and i will be there in person to sit down with you because i do feel like there's some kind of i don't know i guess like spiritual contract between me and him like when you enter into a story like this you're you're in somebody else's life in a real way yeah we it's almost like we do need to hear his version of it right and we don't we just and especially when you're dealing with lawyers in a court case where it's you know they're withholding some testimony if they think it'd be detrimental to his case or you know once all said and done i wonder why trump didn't pardon him i don't know and then who knows you know the way it was reported that um he was closely considering it um but in the kind of last days of the you know chaotic into the administration or whatever it didn't happen but i was i was you know because no matter what you think of ross's politics or what he did as a you know or silk road even there is this thing where like i'm a believer in second chances man you know i've screwed up a million things in my lifetime and um and i feel like somebody like that hopefully has something to give the world you know and isn't thrown away it's just crazy that they were offering him 10 years and instead they gave him two life sentences plus 40 years with no possibility of parole like why you know there's this there's such a disparity well it's i think in some way or another it was like this changed the drug war right it changed the way the drug game happened and it changed the way the drug war was fought suddenly it's like it's almost an existential threat to the drug war when it's not by busts and hand to hand and all the street stuff that we've seen you know since you know nixon unleashes dea you know in 73 or whatever the year is suddenly it's wait a minute all happening online anonymous dhl usps people are delivering it nobody even knows that they're carrying it so it was like it was an existential threat to the us government to the dea to the drug war and so he got the book thrown at him crazy so what was the motivation for offering him 10 years as a plea you know i don't know and and i wonder you know looking back on it it's always kind of hindsight is 2020 but he had been beating the system for a long time right he was like one dude with a laptop that unleashed this thing that kind of metastasized and went over the whole world and um and he was winning for a while he was ahead of the feds he was ahead of the u.s attorney's office he had chuck schumer there you know calling for his head and yet he continued to kind of game the system and beat him by just being nimble and being able to throw his laptop and his backpack and roll on to the next location so maybe you know maybe he thought he'd be able to continue beating the system i don't know god just i mean i just he'd be out he'd be out he'd be out now full 10 years later well and the crazy thing you know we did this two hours ago kind of convenient i put silk road on the top sorry on the tor network about 10 years ago i've been thinking about what was going through the mind of my 26 year old self back then in 2011. so much has changed if only i could turn back time wow so he's got a twitter account catch new episodes of the joe rogan experience for free only on spotify watch back catalog jre videos on spotify including clips easily seamlessly switch between video and audio experience on spotify you can listen to the jre in the background while using other apps and can download episodes to save on data cost all for free spotify is absolutely 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Length: 10min 28sec (628 seconds)

Published: Wed Mar 03 2021