CASE IN DELAWARE. JOSE? >> RYAN NOBLES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>> WELL, PRESIDENT BIDEN AND DONALD TRUMP ARE SHARPENING THEIR ATTACKS AGAINST EACH OTHER. IN A NEW AD, THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN SLAMS THE FORMER PRESIDENT AS A CONVICTED CRIMINAL. IN BATTLEGROUND MICHIGAN OVER THE WEEKEND, THE FORMER PRESIDENT BOASTED ABOUT HIS LEGAL TROUBLES WHILE TARGETING THE PRESIDENT ON INFLATION AND THE BORDER. >> I'M THE ONLY ONE IN HISTORY WHO GOT INDICTED AND MY NUMBERS WENT UP. I'M THE ONLY ONE IN HISTORY WHO GOT IMPEACHED AND MY NUMBERS WENT UP. >> NEXT HOUR, THE FORMER PRESIDENT HOSTING REPUBLICAN SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON AT MAR-A-LAGO IN FLORIDA AS HE SOLIDIFIES HIS GRIP OVER THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. THE JOCKEYING TO BE TRUMP'S VICE PRESIDENT CONTINUES WITH MARCO RUBIO HELPING WITH DEBATE PREP AND BYRON DONALDS GETTING TEASED A BIT BY THE FORMER PRESIDENT ON SATURDAY. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE VP? HUH? TELL YOU ONE THING, HE'D BE A GOOD ONE, TOO. >> AT A STAR STUDDED DEMOCRATIC FUND-RAISER, PRESIDENT BIDEN AND OBAMA PAINTING TRUMP AS A MAJOR THREAT. >> THE NEXT PRESIDENT IS LIKELY TO HAVE TWO NEW SUPREME COURT NOMINEES. TWO MORE. HE'S GOING TO APPOINT TWO MORE FLYING FLAGS UPSIDE DOWN. THE SUPREME COURT HAS NEVER BEEN AS OUT OF KILTER AS IT IS TODAY. >> JOINING US NOW, NBC NEWS CORRESPONDENT, VAUGHN HILLYARD AND ALI VITALI AND JEREMY PETERS, "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTER. PRESIDENT BIDEN AND TRUMP ARE DRAWING THEIR BATTLE LINES. HOW ARE THEY TRYING TO FRAME THEIR OPPONENT AHEAD OF THE FIRST DEBATE NEXT WEEK? >> WE'RE JUST TEN DAYS AWAY FROM THAT FIRST DEBATE IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA, ONE OF THE REFRAINS WE SHOULD EXPECT FROM BIDEN IS THE FACT THAT ANOTHER TRUMP ADMINISTRATION COULD LEAD TO TWO CONSERVATIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES NOMINATED BY DONALD TRUMP. OF COURSE DURING HIS FIRST ADMINISTRATION, HE NOMINATED AND SUCCESSFULLY WAS ABLE TO PLACE THREE CONSERVATIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES ON THE BENCH. YOU SHOULD ALSO EXPECT JOE BIDEN TO FOCUS ON THE IDEA THAT THE PROGRESS MADE UNDER THE DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATION WAS ABLED BY DONALD TRUMP AND THAT THE U.S.' ROLE IN THE GLOBAL ORDER COULD COME INTO QUESTION WITH ALLIES WHO HAVE HEARD DONALD TRUMP REPEATEDLY OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS CALL INTO QUESTION U.S. AID AND RESOURCES. NOT ONLY GOING TO RUSSIA, OR UKRAINE, EXCUSE ME, BUT POTENTIALLY TO SUPPORT OTHER ALLIES OF THE UNITED STATES AND OTHER NATO MEMBERS IN THE EVENT RUSSIA WERE TO INVADE AND USE AGGRESSION. BUT ALSO FOR DONALD TRUMP, YOU SHOULD EXPECT NEXT WEEK FOR HIM TO FOCUS ON IMMIGRATION AND THE CONTRAST BETWEEN HIS ADMINISTRATION AND THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS THE PRICE ON GOODS UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION PRACTICALLY OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. WHAT WE EXPECT NEXT WEEK, NUMBER ONE, NO CROWD. CNN HAS ROLLED OUT THE AGREEMENT THAT BOTH SIDES, BOTH CAMPS MADE, THAT WILL INCLUDE NO STUDIO AUDIENCE, BUT MICROPHONES. WILL BE TURNED OFF WHILE THE OTHER IS SPEAKING. THERE WILL BE NO PROBLEMS ALLOWED. A PAD AND PAPER AND CAN MAKE NOTES. THEY WILL ALSO BE PROVIDED WATER. 90 MINUTES, TWO COMMERCIAL BREAKS. BOTH MEN AREN'T GOING TO TALK TO THEIR CAMPAIGN TEAMS DURING THE 90 MINUTES. >> MEANWHILE, TRUMP IS HOSTING MIKE JOHNSON IN MAR-A-LAGO TODAY. WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE MEETING AND WHAT'S THE LATEST ON THE RACE TO BE TRUMP'S RUNNING MATE? >> THE FORMER PRESIDENT TRYING TO SHOW HE HAS POWER OVER HIS PARTY. HE DID THAT LAST WEEK IN HIS FIRST APPEARANCE ON CAPITOL HILL SINCE THE JANUARY 6th INSURRECTION. BY AND LARGE, THEY CALLED IT A PEP RALLY. SOURCES TELL ME THE MEETING WITH FORMER PRESIDENT IS HAVING AT MAR-A-LAGO WITH THE SPEAKER AND HEAD OF THE NRCC, THE HOUSE'S CAMPAIGN ARM IN CHARGE OF KEEPING THE MAJORITY FOR HOUSE REPUBLICANS HERE, THIS MEETING IS SUPPOSED TO BE A CONTINUATION OF SORTS OF THE MEETING TRUMP HAD WITH THE FULL HOUSE REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE LAST WEEK. NOW OF COURSE HE'S DOING IT WITH TWO SENIOR LEADERSHIP MEMBERS AS THEY TRY TO CHART A PATH FORWARD TOWARDS ANOTHER HOUSE MAJORITY HERE ON THE HOUSE SIDE. ON THE SENATE SIDE OF THIS BUILDING, THEY'RE ALSO TRYING TO TAKE BACK THAT MAJORITY. AS FAR AS THE VEEPSTAKES GO, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF CONGRESS, HOUSE AND SENATE, VYING FOR THAT POSITION. HEARING FROM THEM OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FEW DAYS AS THEY TRY TO AUDITION ON TELEVISION. WATCH. >> DONALD TRUMP J. TRUMP IS LEADING IN POLLS ALL OVER. EVERY TIME A POLL COMES OUT. >> HE'S COMMITTED, SMART, FUNNY. NOTHING LIKE HE'S PORTRAYED IN THE PRESS. >> WE NEED A VISIONARY LEADER AND I BELIEVE THAT DONALD TRUMP IS THAT VISIONARY LEADER. >> PRAISE WILL GET YOU EVERYWHERE, OR AT LEAST IN THIS CASE, SOMEWHERE IN THESE VEEPSTAKES. WE'RE WATCHING THE WAYS THESE POTENTIAL VICE PRESIDENT CONTENDERS ARE TRYING TO GET ON TV AS MUCH THEY CAN. WE KNOW IMAGE AND WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MEDIA MATTERS GREATLY TO THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE CLOSE TO THIS VEEPSTAKES PROCESS, IT LOOKS LIKE THE MORE WE SEE OF THESE FOLKS ON TV, THE MORE IT COULD HAVE IMPACT ON THE ACTUAL STANDING IN THIS ONGOING VEEPSTAKES CONTEST AS IT CONTINUES DOWN TO THE CONVENTION. >> AND JEREMY, BACK TO WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING HAVE VAUGHN WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN BEING ASKED DURING HIS CAMPAIGN EVENT. DO YOU THINK THE SUPREME COURT COULD BE AN ISSUE THAT COULD MOTIVATE PEOPLE TO COME OUT IN NOVEMBER? >> I THINK, JOSE, THAT IT IS MUCH MORE OF A GALVANIZING FACTOR FOR DEMOCRATS THIS TIME AROUND. NOT JUST BECAUSE OF ROE V. WADE BEING OVERTURNED, BUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE POSSIBILITY THAT SHOULD CLARENCE THOMAS OR ALITO RETIRE, WHO ARE IN THEIR ADVANCED AGE, THEIR 70s, THAT WOULD GIVE DONALD TRUMP THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPOINT MORE YOUNG CONSERVATIVES. THEREFORE, SOLIDIFYING THE CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY ON THE COURT FOR ANOTHER TWO GENERATIONS OR SO. I THINK THOUGH THAT THE ISSUE OF THE COURT FOR REPUBLICANS IS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME IN YOU KNOW, A HALF A CENTURY BASICALLY THAT ROE V. WADE WON'T BE A MOTIVATING FACTOR FOR THEM. AND WE SAW IN 2022, WHEN AMY CONEY BARRETT WAS CONFIRMED AND THAT REALLY CEMENTED THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY AT 6-3 ON THE COURT. THE REPUBLICANS DIDN'T DO SO WELL IN THOSE MIDTERMS BECAUSE BARRETT WAS CONFIRMED RIGHT BEFORE THESE MIDTERMED. I'VE HEARD SOME REPUBLICAN STRATEGISTS SAY THAT A LITTLE BIT OF AN IMPACT ON VOTER ENTHUSIASM. ONE SAID TO ME AT THE TIME THAT SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES, RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVES, AFTER THE BARRETT CONFIRMATION, FELT QUOTE FAT, HAPPY, AND LAZY. SO, WITHOUT ROE V. WADE, THE COURT ISN'T AS MUCH OF A FACTOR FOR REPUBLICANS. NOW, AS FOR THE ISSUE OF ABORTION, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED THAN PEOPLE ARE MAKING IT OUT TO BE. IN STATES LIKE MICHIGAN AND WISCONSIN WHERE IT'S IN PLAY AS A POLITICAL ISSUE, I THINK DEMOCRATS WILL BE ENERGIZED BY IT.
