New secret audio: Trump World is armed with ‘lawyers, judges, technology’ to challenge 2024 election

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DECIDE ON THE BASIS OF OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE OF FRAUD TO SEND ELECTORS TO THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE WHO ACCURATELY REFLECT THE PRESIDENT'S LEGITIMATE VICTORY IN THEIR STATE, WHICH WAS ILLEGALLY DENIED HIM THROUGH FRAUD. >>> WE MUST BE PREPARED TO LOBBY OUR REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURES. >> IS THAT WAS LONGTIME REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST AND TRUMP ALLY ROGER STONE ON NOVEMBER 5th, 2020, TWO DAYS AFTER THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, AFTER VOTES HAD BEEN CAST BUT BEFORE THE RACE HAD BEEN CALLED. WHAT YOU HEARD IS STONE LAYING OUT THE PLAN FOR HOW REPUBLICANS WERE GOING TO ATTEMPT TO STEAL THAT ELECTION, PUSHING THE FAKE ELECTORS' PLOT. NOW STONE IS BACK AND GIVING UP THE PLAYBOOK ONCE AGAIN ON HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE IT ANOTHER TRY DURING THIS YEAR'S LE LECZ. IT COMES IN A SECRET RECORDING FROM PROGRESSIVE ACTIVIST AND DOCUMENTARYIAN LAUREN WINDSOR. THIS ONE IS FROM A CATHOLIC EVENT IN MARCH AT MAR-A-LAGO WHERE STONE WAS THE KEYNOTE SPEAKER. >> WE'RE WORKING ON IT. LAWYERS, JUDGES, TECHNOLOGY. WHAT STAPPS THEM FROM JUST LIKE VOTER FRAUD? LIKE BALLOT HAR VEFTING? >> IN SOME STATES IT'LL BE EASIER TO STOP. IN OTHER PLACES, IT WON'T. BUT AT LEAST THIS TIME WHEN THEY DO IT, YOU'LL HAVE A PLACE TO STOP IT. WE SHOULD BE SEEING IN A HALF DOZEN PLACES. I MEAN WE'RE FINALLY -- >> AND THERE IT IS. THEY'RE GOING TO TRY AND GET THE JUDGES IN ON THE GAME, AND WHILE TRUMP LOST OVER 60 LAWSUITS SINCE THE LAST ELECTION, THEY'VE LEARNED A LOT SINCE THAT TIME, AND THEY KNOW NOW HOW BEST TO UTILIZE THE MORE THAN 200 JUDGES TRUMP PUT IN PLACE LIKE LITTLE TICKING TIME BOMBS TO AID IN THEIR EFFORTS. NOW, THAT'S NOT TO SAY EACH OF THOSE APPOINTED JUDGES WOULD BE WILLING TO DO TRUMP'S BIDDING, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON IN TRUMP'S CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS CASE IN FLORIDA WITH WITH TRUMP-APPOINTED AILEEN CANNON, THERE'S A QUESTION OF WHO ELSE MAY BE THERE. HE SAYS THEY SHOULD BE PERFECTLY LEAGUE AND PART OF ANY SECURITY BALLOTINGEST. HE HAS CLAIMED IN THE PAST HIS EFFORTS IN THE 2020 ELECTION WERE LEGAL TOO. THIS LEADS TO ANOTHER QUESTION, WHICH IS WHAT WILL DEMOCRATS DO NOW THAT THEY KNOW THE PLAN AND IT'S OUT THERE. JOINING ME NOW IS A FORMER MEMBER OF THE JANUARY 6th SELECT COMMITTEE. CONGRESSMAN, IT'S SUCH A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU. THERE'S SO MUCH I WOULD LOVE TO GET. WHEN THEY TELL YOU WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, YOU SHOULD BELIEVE THEM TOO. SO KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW NOW AND HAVE LEARNED, HOW DO DEMOCRATS CREATE THE NECESSARY LEVELS OF ENGAGEMENT TO PUSH BACK, FURTHER EXPOSE, AND DEFEAT THESE EFFORTS TO USE OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM TO STEAL THE ELECTION? >> MICHAEL, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THEY'VE SHOWN UD US. THEY'D TRIED ONCE BEFORE. STONE IS SAYING WE'LL SUCCEED IN OVERTURNING THE ELECTION IF WE LOSE, AND I THINK WE'RE IN A MORE DANGEROUS, FRAUGHT POSITION IN THIS UPCOMING ELECTION THAN THE LAST ONE BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TRAGICALLY HAS CONSOLIDATED AROUND THE BIG LIE AND THE BIG LIAR, AND THEY HAVE HAD TIME ESSENTIALLY TO PUT IN PLACE DIFFERENT ELECTORS AS WELL AS DIFFERENT LAWS AT THE STATE LEVEL TO TRY TO DISENFRANCHISE VOTERS ON THE FROND END, BUT ALSO THAT THEY CAN TAP SHOULD THEY LOSE THE ELECTION. THEY'RE GOING TO RUN IT THIS TIME. THE VERY BEST WE CAN DO TO TRY TO THWART THE EFFORT TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION IS MAKE SURE THE ELECTION IS NOT CLOSE. THE OTHER THINGS WE COULD EMPLOY IF WE HAD TO APPEAL THROUGH THE COURTS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN'T TRUST THE SUPREME COURT, AND SO THE ONLY REMEDY WE REALLY HAVE ASIDE FROM INFORMING THE ELECTION TORATE, THE VOTERS, THAT E'RE RUNNING THE SAME PLAYBOOK, FOLKS, THAT EVERYTHING THEY RUN THE DAY AFTER IS SOMEHOW FRAUDULENT, KNOWING THAT ABSENTEE VOTES ARE SOMETIMES DIFFERENT VOTERS, THAT IS, IT MAY BE ONE DEMOGRAPHIC VOTE THAT VOTES ON ELECTION DAY AND ANOTHER THAT VOTES BY ABSENTEE BALLOT, THEY'RE GOING TO RUN THE SAME FALSE PLAYBOOK, AND WE NEED TO INFORM PEOPLE ABOUT IT AND TURN PEOPLE OUT SO THIS ELECTION ISN'T CLOSE. >> YOU HAVE LARA TRUMP WHO WAS AT TURNING POINT USA'S ACTION DETROIT CONVENTION, AND SHE HAD THIS TO SAY ABOUT THE MESSAGE THEY WANT TO PUT OUT ON THE STREET. >> WE'RE ALSO SENDING A LOUD AND CLEAR MESSAGE OUT THERE TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO CHEAT THE ELECTION, WE'LL TRACK YOU DOWN AND PROSECUTE YOU TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW. >> I WOULD SAY THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF PROJECTION, BALL OF THAT COULD BE APPLIED TO WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO. THEY'VE ALREADY MADE A BIG DEAL ABOUT AMASSING OVER 100,000 PEOPLE WHO WILL BE POLL WATCHERS, WHICH IS NOTHING MORE THAN JUST VOTER INTIMIDATION AT VARIOUS POLLING PLACES. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING AND SEEING COMING OUT OF THE RANKS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ACROSS THE COUNTRY, CREATING THE COALITIONS AND THE EFFORTS TO ALSO SAFEGUARD AGAINST WHAT IS CLEARLY A STATED EFFORT TO CATCH CHEATING BY REPUBLICANS BUT INSTEAD REALLY CLAIMING DEMOCRATS ARE THE ONES DOING THE CHEATING? >> WELL, THAT STATEMENT YOU JUST PLAYED WAS VERY RICH CONSIDERING THAT WITH THEIR WHOLE FAKE ELECTOR PLOT, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO, DEFRAUD VOTERS OF THEIR LEGITIMATELY CAST BALLOTS. BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS HEARING, DOING, WE'RE VERY CONCERNED THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO SUPPRESS THE VOTE IN MANY WAYS WITH THESE VOTER SUPPRESSION LAWS BUT ALSO SUPPRESS IT WITH HAVING PEOPLE INTIMIDATE OTHERS AT THE POLLING PLACES AND PUTTING OUT MESSAGES THAT ESSENTIALLY TRY TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN IN CALIFORNIA AND CERTAINLY IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY AS WELL EFFORTS IN PARTICULAR TO DISCOURAGE VOTERS OF COLOR FROM GOING TO THE POLLING PLACE THROUGH INTIMIDATION AND SCARE TACTICS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PUSH BACK AGAINST THAT, THAT WE HAVE LEGITIMATE EFFORTS AT VOTER PROTECTION, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THINKING OF MARSHALLING EXPERT ELECTORS AND VOLUNTEERS TO MAKE SURE THAT KIND OF INTIMIDATION IS NOT GOING ON. IN THE STATES WHERE THEY HAVE PURGED VOTER ROLLS THAT WERE MAKING IT 45RDER TO VOTE, GET PEOPLE REREGISTERED, WE'RE TAKING THIS AS SERIOUS AS A HEART ATTACK BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, MICHAEL, AS YOU'VE OFTEN POINTED OUT, THIS IS GOING TO BE CLOSE AND IT CLOSES DOWN TO WHO TURNS OUT. IT ALSO COMES DOWN TO WHETHER THEY SUCCEED IN VALIDATING THE LEGITIMATE VOTES OF PEOPLE. >> JUST REAL QUICKLY BEFORE WE LET YOU GO, CONGRESSMAN, IN YOUR RACE FOR THE UNITED STATES SENATE, THERE ARE RACES LIKE YOURS AROUND THE COUNTRY IN BLUE AND RED STATES. WHAT CONCERNS YOU RIGHT NOW AS WE ARE FOUR MONTHS OUT ABOUT OUR ELECTION PROCESS AND WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BELIEVE OR THINK ABOUT IT? >> WELL, I'M ACTUALLY QUITE OPTIMISTIC. AS YOU WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER ON THE SHOW, OUR SENATE CANDIDATES, THE DEMOCRATIC SENATE CANDIDATES ARE RUNNING AHEAD IN EACH OF THESE ELECTIONS. WE DO HAVE TO RUN THE TABLE TO HOLD ONTO THE SENATE, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO RUN THE TABLE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE BEST CANDIDATES IN THESE STATES, AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE, A LOT OF THE MAGA PEOPLE WHO WON REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES ARE GOING TO BE FAIRLY WEAK OPPONENTS. I TOTALLY CONCUR WITH THE POINT THAT WAS MADE EARLIER THAT WHEN THESE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES FAIL AGAIN, WHEN DONALD TRUMP FAILS AGAIN, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WILL FINALLY MOVE ON NOT FOR THE SAKE OF OUR COUNTRY, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF THEIR OWN PARTY. THEY JUST CAN'T KEEP LOSING AS THEY HAVE WITH THEIR BIG
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Channel: MSNBC
Views: 72,342
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Keywords: Joy Reid
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Length: 10min 24sec (624 seconds)
Published: Thu Jun 20 2024
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