U.Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor: 2018 National Book Festival

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[ Applause ] >> CARLA HAYDEN: Wow. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: This so exciting. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Isn't it? >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: I wish every kid in this room could come up to the stage and see what I'm seeing. And I want to remind every kid in this stage that when you grow up, you can do this too. [ Applause ] >> CARLA HAYDEN: Well, I'm just kerplump. But I am Carla Hayden, the Library of Congress. Thanks. [ Applause ] As you can imagine, Justice, this is one of my favorite times of the year to be at the festival. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: this is amazing. >> CARLA HAYDEN: And to have you. And I have a bio, I think when they talk about a person who needs no introduction, you might be that person. But I would like to read just a little bit, if you don't mind. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: I don't mind. CHP: How about it? >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: They might mind. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Well, Justice Sotomayor is an associate justice of the US Supreme Court and she was born in the Bronx. Well. [Audience] She earned a BA from Princeton University and a JD -- oh, little applause, little applause. And a JD from Yale Law school. And in 1991 President George H. W. Bush nominated her to the US District Court, Southern District of New York. In 1997, President Bill Clinton nominated her to the US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit. And then President Barrack Obama nominated her to the Supreme Court. [ Applause ] On May 26, 2009, and she was confirmed on August the 8, 2009. Becoming the first Latina on the high court. [ Applause ] And she's a bestselling author. "My Beloved World," among others. However, Justice, you have done something remarkable, a first for the book festival. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: And how many years has this been going on now? >> CARLA HAYDEN: 18 years. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: That's a long time. >> CARLA HAYDEN: In 18 years we've never had on the main stage books that were written for young people. But because of you and -- >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Carla, kids are powerful. They are. >> Carla Hayden: I know, but it took you to get us on the main stage. And, so that really intrigued me, because I'm a former children's librarian and we know about the power of books, but what motivated you? With all the things that you could do and people asking you to write other books, why would you write for young people, what was it? >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Well, with respect to the middle school book, "The Beloved World of Sonia Sotomayor," kids you're going to meet my cousin Miriam. She's six months younger than I am and I tortured her always telling her I was older. Now we're older and she tortures me telling me I'm younger. But, she's a middle school bilingual education teacher. And when I wrote my parent book, "My Beloved World," she asked me immediately to start writing a middle school book. But, you know, I have a day job. And sometimes I'm very very busy and it took me a number of years to try to make the time to write this. So, I decided to write this, as I was thinking about writing it I thought, "But really, how about young readers, this may not quite be appropriate for them yet." So, if I'm going to do one I should do the other, shouldn't i? And then I thought, "It's a real challenge, how do I tell my story to young readers in a way that they can understand in words, but that they could see as well?" So, I thought about it and I said, "Ah, an illustrated book." And then I had the pure fortuity to find an illustrator, Lulu Delacre, who could turn my story into pictures. And beautiful pictures. And, so, "Turning Pages," was born. And that's me walking up the steps of the Supreme Court. >> CARLA HAYDEN: I understand she's here. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: That's me with the high heels. Not today. But I have worn high heels. I like them. And there's a little frog, the Coqui, which is a symbol of Puerto Rico. [ Applause ] And in my hands there's a key. And that's what this book is about, the key to success in my life. It's the secret that I want to share with kids. It tells and explains this book how I became successful. And what's the answer -- I could tell you to read the book. I hope you will anyway. But what I know is that I'm here as a Supreme Court Justice only because of books. Because reading books [ Applause ] Opened the world to me. So, that's what this is about. >> CARLA HAYDEN: And, Justice, and I'm going to tell everybody, I don't get to endorse books much now or anything like that, but let's just say, I love this book. I got an advance copy, that's one of the perks. And I couldn't -- it was just so evocative of what the power of reading can do. You started with your grandmother and I had a grandmother that read to me or did words, and tell us about that. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Well, I'm going to start by telling you that probably the most important person in my life was my abuelita, my grandmother. When I started writing my parent book, it was because one day during the confirmation process my mother turned to me and said, "Sonia, they forgotten about Midseres [assumed spelling]. That was my abuelita's name. And I said, "I know, mom, because thankfully you're here with me and you've been so important in my life, but I will find a way that everybody will know about abuelita." And my way was to put her into my adult book. So, I then created this children's book and I include a picture of her at my high school graduation. And, so, that's my abuelita. And the first scene that you see in "Turning Pages," is me walking with her, going on Saturday morning to buy a chicken for dinner Saturday night. So, she's very much a part of this book, and in fact, I dedicated this book to her, my mother and the role model women in my life, because they have really set the stage for who I became. >> CARLA HAYDEN: And then you talked about -- sorry, but I know this book by heart now. And librarians and teachers and anyone that believes in the power of books and reading and literacy is going to get so much, because you talk about seeing yourself or not seeing yourself in books. Books were a lifeline for you and you need to see yourself. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: books, you know, most of us, not all of us, but most of us, and especially those of us who come from modest backgrounds, we don't get to see much of the world when we're growing up as kids. We all -- anyway, tend to live within a few blocks of our home. That's where we usually play, most of our friends are there, unless you live in big cities like New York, and everybody has to travel when they're in New York. But for most people your world is very small or at least the world that you inhabit. The bigger world is something you have to explore with time and age often. And, so, books give you a chance to do that in a way nothing else does. You see, television and movies, and even the internet, they present you with pictures, but what they don't let you do is imagine. The power of words is in creating pictures in your mind and when you can do that without television or movies or real pictures telling you what you should imagine, it can become more special. And, so, for me I explored the world as a child through books and I saw the possibilities of things that I never could have imagined without reading. I could never have imagined traveling to faraway places. And now I do it, but it was that wish to do it, that lust to meet other people in the world, came from reading about where other people lived and wanting to see it. >> CARLA HAYDEN: What about the thinking about a legal profession or law and how reading helped you get into that? >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Well, mothers and fathers are not going to like this. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Uht oh. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Look, in my life there were no lawyers. I grew up in a housing project, which is a place where people without resources, the government helps them find housing. And, so, there were no lawyers in the projects. And there were no lawyers anywhere in my life. And, so, I had no opportunities to know about really the law, except in a bad way. A lot of my cousins and a lot of people I knew got arrested by the police. Andi knew they went to court and it was very painful for our families and friends. But that's not a good sort of image of what law is all about. However, through television I found a TV lawyer, the first one, Perry Mason. [ Applause ] And he showed me that lawyers could help people. And, so, my first childhood understanding of lawyers and law was that they help people. And that seemed like a really good thing for me to do. But it took a lot longer, my getting a little older, going to college and doing other things to realize that what law helps people do is live together. You see, laws help our relationships with one another. The laws tell us certain limits of what we can do with and to and for each other. Laws are not morality, they're not right and wrong, they are a way of regulating our relationships so we can manage our competing interests. You know? When your mother tells you, "You can't borrow your brother or sister's toys without asking them for permission." That's the first seed of teaching you what laws do. You can't steal other people's property. You can't take that without them saying it's okay. That is regulating our competing interest and telling us how we can live better together. And I wanted to be a part of that. I wanted to be a part or a voice in how we live with each other. And that became my reality by reading about what law did and does and the good it's done in society. You know, I was born on May 25, 1954, one month before a very important Supreme Court case was decided, Brown versus Board of Education. [ Applause ] We are sitting in this room, one collection of people of all races, of all backgrounds, of all -- of both genders, because of Brown. Before this our society was segregated. And segregated right here in the nation's capital. When I was born I have friends who tell me stories of traveling south to Florida, getting on the train and stopping in Washington DC and having to go into a segregated car. Brown changed my life and all of our lives for the better. Now, there are some laws that are not very good. They're not good because you don't like them, right? You can find one, I'm sure. But, laws are made by people and we can change laws that we don't like. And we can work hard to do that. [applause] The point is that the law can't get it right all of the time. Some very good laws are passed and as society changes they have to be amended or altered, because they're not doing what people thought they would do. And sometimes the society sits back and says, "There are some things that are not constitutional, like segregation and we have to change that." And, so, for me, books again were the key to my deciding to become what I am today. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Now, you also though, liked comic books. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Oh, yeah. >> CARLA HAYDEN: And you wanted to be a superhero. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Oh, yeah. >> CARLA HAYDEN: See, that's in here too. And Nancy Drew. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Can I show that picture? >> CARLA HAYDEN: Oh, yeah, show them that picture. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: All right. >> CARLA HAYDEN: And Nancy Drew. Shout out to Nancy Drew. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Hold on. That's me when I was diagnosed with diabetes. Can I read that passage to them? >> CARLA HAYDEN: Sure, the beauty of the words tell about this story. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: When I was 7 I got sick and was diagnosed with diabetes. I was so afraid of the big needle used to take my blood for testing at the hospital, that I ran outside and hid under a parked car. That's me under the car. I would have to get shots every day to stay alive. All those needles were scary. I found my courage in an unlikely place, comic books. After reading stories of regular people who had secret super powers that could save the world, I imagined being as brave and powerful as they were. Then I learned how to give myself the shots and in time I got used to it. Books that seemed were magic potions that could fuel me with the bravery of superheroes. So, me as Supergirl. [ Applause ] Lulu did such an incredible job on every scene, but yes, even comic books. >> CARLA HAYDEN: And I think that she's here, Lulu is here. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Lulu DeLacre. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Oh, would you please stand up. [ Applause ] And for Nancy Drew fans, you really were evocative of Nancy Drew during them. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Now, there were no annex in my life back then. I lived in a project and then in a big building complex later in life. I've only lived in a house once. And that house creaked all the time and it came from the roof -- not the roof, but the ceiling of the house and I really thought that my friend was keeping something -- someone prisoner in the attic. It took ages before I admitted this to her and she took me up there and said, "No, Sonia, there's no people up there, it's only because it's a tin roof and it sounds like there's footsteps up there." But Lulu put me in a staircase, which was much more familiar to me. >> CARLA HAYDEN: She also showed you being delighted with the delivery of a box of encyclopedias. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: The most beautiful thing in the world. Now, the encyclopedias today are online, they're not selling them as books anymore. And I actually know there's some value sometimes to online reading. Those encyclopedias, if you click on them, on something they're describing, they do a sort of 3D image and move it around. And that's pretty interesting I think. And I kind of like it, but I love the encyclopedias. The things I could feel in my hands and turn the pages. I actually believe that if I read every book, that I would be the smartest person in the world. Well, it didn't quite work that way, but I did try to read every book and I got through most of them. I didn't understand a lot of them, but I tried. And they introduced me to things that were very important later. When I got to college and I was taking courses on things that were new to me, I might have read something about it in an encyclopedia and it made me feel a little more comfortable that I could learn more in college. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Do you get a chance to read anything for pleasure now? I know -- >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Hardly not. I get to a little bit, so, I was in Canada on vacation for a week. And -- some nice Canadians in here, right? Anyway, they told me that the former Chief Justice of the Canadian Supreme Court had written a crime thriller. So, I read that. >> CARLA HAYDEN: An escape. Still a story. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: it was an escape. >> CARLA HAYDEN: When you, also mentioned reading about Puerto Rico. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: I did. >> CARLA HAYDEN: But not seeing people that looked like you in books. I remember when I first saw myself in a book and what it meant to me. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: When I was little -- first of all, my family had come from Puerto Rico during World War II, I was born in 1954, many of them, my father and my grandmother and most of my aunts included and uncles, didn't yet speak English. So, I didn't have guidance on what I should be reading in English. And because of that there may have been books on biographies or biographies, but it wasn't something I was exposed to. And because of that I didn't have the opportunity to read about people who were like me. And I know now, because I know there are so many books about people from so many different backgrounds for kids, that they can see themselves like you did. But we were a new migration to the United States. Not new, because we've been a part of the United States since 1988, but coming over in significant numbers, Puerto Ricans didn't start until the 1950s. And, so, as a result of that there weren't a lot of books about people like me with curly hair and who spoke Spanish. Now there are. And you can meet one of them -- >> CARLA HAYDEN: In this book. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: In my translation. >> Carla Hayden: I have it -- [ Applause ] >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: "Pasando Paginas." It's very important to me that everything I write be translated into Spanish. [ Applause ] >> CARLA HAYDEN: And published simultaneously. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Yes. Now the middle school book we're a little behind, but I'm told in a couple of months we're going to have the Spanish version. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Right, yeah. But to have the picture book come out in both languages at the same time is important. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Very important to me. I can give you a secret, for those of you who are teaching yourselves or your kids Spanish, buy both versions. They can read them side by side. >> CARLA HAYDEN: You're a librarian in hiding. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Carla, you know that I get very tired of sitting down. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Well. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Right, I know. >> CARLA HAYDEN: We have a treat and I had the wonderful experience of being part of your first book tour when I was in Baltimore. And you said, "You know, I get a little feisty and I want to be out with people." And the -- I guess I could say, the security people that accompany you kind of blanch when she does that. But that's what she's going to do. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: That's what I'm going to do. [inaudible] >> CARLA HAYDEN: Because we're going to start with question and answers. And I forgot to say that at the beginning, because I was kind of excited. We have questions from the audience that you have filled out and I'm going to read them, and, Justice, you wanted me to ask and say the names. Oh, and the first one is Maria, who is a 9 year old girl. And where is Maria? >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Oh. Can I say one thing, Carla? I will walk around. It's not fair to all those people back there that they can't see me. So, I'm going to go say hello to people. You will see a lot of people with little things in their ears. >> CARLA HAYDEN: A lot. >> Justice Sonia Sotomayor: A lot of them. They are here to protect me from me. They don't like me doing this, I do it anyway. >> CARLA HAYDEN: She does it. I've seen it. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: But, if you jump up unexpectedly, they get scared. >> CARLA HAYDEN: No, sudden moves. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: And if too many of you do it, they'll pull me back onto the stage. I don't want that. So, stay seated please. But I'm going to walk and whoever asks the question, would you raise your hand. And if you're little jump up and down or come to the middle so we can see where you are, okay? >> CARLA HAYDEN: Okay, we're going to start with Maria. Who's a 9 year old girl and who wants to be president. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Oh, wow. [ Applause ] >> CARLA HAYDEN: And Maria wants to know, what is your advice about what I should do now. Thank you, Maria Tarzere [assumed spelling]. At 9 years old. So, Maria, where are you, Maria. There she is. Oh. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Oh, this side. All right, I'm coming down. >> CARLA HAYDEN: I'm going to stay here and the Justice is going to see you. Oh, Maria, you are so smart to ask this now. At 9. Because that's -- >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Hola. >> CARLA HAYDEN: It's never too early. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: will you give me a hug. Thank you. Thank you. Look at those guys. [ Applause ] Well, are you here -- who are you hear with? >> Maria: My mom and dad. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Can we go back there so I can meet them? All right, let's go take a walk. Now, Maria, I walk and talk. Thank you. I'm so proud of you for having big dreams. That is so important, because, you see, if you don't dream big, you can't become something big. You have to dream big to want to work hard to get there. And you have to start by studying, because anything you want to be requires hard work and a lot of study. Nothing in life that you do where you're successful, can you do without hard work. Even athletes, and a lot of people think, "Oh, they just get up and throw that basketball." They don't do that. They practice and practice and practice until they get really good. That's their study, practicing. But they also have to read about basketball, they have to know how to play it, so they have to read all these things that tell them, how do I form this line, how do I protect against somebody getting passed me. That's what it will be like in your life. So you have to read a lot about a lot of things. Especially if you're president, because you have to know -- [ Applause ] You tell me where your mom and dad are, okay? So, you know the President not only has to know American history, he has to know -- all right, oh, you're here. Hello. I'm so proud of you. >> Jenny Gordon: It's a pleasure to meet you. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Hello, hello. >> Anthony Tarzere: Hello, nice to meet you. >> Justice Sonia Sotomayor: Tell me your names. >> Jenny Gordon: I'm Jenny Gordon. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Jenny. >> Anthony Tarzere: Anthony Tarzere. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Hello. Anyway, you have to -- he has to know about the world, he has to know about politics, but he also has to know about the economy. What? She. You're right, thank you. She has to know about everything. But you know something, the most interesting people I know in the whole world are curious people. >> Anthony Tarzere: That is so true. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: People who want to learn about things, just because learning is fun. Because, you see, the people that are most anxious to learn are the people who tend to do the most in life. So, that's my answer to how you become president. [ Applause ] >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: You're welcome. Now, I'm not supposed to do this and people are going to tell me I'm very forward for doing it, but if you become president, will you ask me to be there, please? [ Applause ] Bye, Maria. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Wow. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for asking your question. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Well. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Okay, Carla. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Well, Justice. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: You look so tiny up there. Boy, you guys [inaudible]. >> CARLA HAYDEN: This is wonderful, because I feel like a talk show person, because we have more advice. The next question. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Yes. >> CARLA HAYDEN: From a feminist dad. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Wow. All right, which dad is that? >> CARLA HAYDEN: My 14 year old son is currently not identifying with feminism and female empowerment. Can you help? Where is the feminist dad and is the son here? Oh, here's the feminist dad. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Which way is he? Over there? >> CARLA HAYDEN: Feminist dad. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: All right, I'm coming this way. >> CARLA HAYDEN: And is the 14 year old son here? Good. Live streaming TV, teenager, oxymoron. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Which way? Over here, okay. Gee, you don't have an older sister, do you? And if you do, she didn't beat you up enough when you were a kid. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Dad, you're going to get advice. How can you help? Does he have a sister? >> CARLA HAYDEN: There's the sister. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: All right. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Okay, good. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: You're the younger sister, huh? >> CARLA HAYDEN: Maybe you need to go straight to the Justice. You can all help. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: No, I was just joking about that. Not a lot, because I spent a lot of time beating up my brother when he was little. Daughter: Hi. Dad: My daughter. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: How are you? Daughter: I'm good. It's so good to meet you. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: It's a pleasure to meet you. Now, with my brother I figured out at a certain point when we were growing into our teenage years that he stayed little only so long and he was going to be bigger than me at some point, that's when I went to him and said, "We have to stop fighting. We're too big to fight anymore, we have to argue and we have to show how our mind can beat each other." He's to this day he still regrets he was waiting to beat me up some day and I stopped the game. It is hard, isn't it, because there are so many cultural influences. Even when kids are small, about what toys they should like, you know, the boy toys versus the girl toys. All of those things. But I think feminism rightly defined is respect for women. And -- [ Applause ] That requires your insistence. It requires making sure that when women talk or men talk, your child learns how not to interrupt. It means, teaching him that listening to people's ideas, requiring letting them talk those ideas out. It requires teaching him by example and otherwise that women do powerful things. And you can show him a Supreme Court with three women. [ Applause ] And I can say something that I'm going to be chided for, probably have my hand slapped and I'm going to do it anyway, there's a movie called RBG. [ Applause ] It's about my friend and I'm privileged to call her my friend, but she was an advocate for women's rights. And I don't know that any other movie I have ever seen might teach your son why equality of women is so important. [ Applause ] Don't give up on him. They all grow up. >> Father: Thank you. And I teach government in high school Maryland, which is 70% Hispanic population, and it's so great have your picture up on my wall and say, "Look, this is, you know, what you can do for you." >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Thank you. Be very proud of him. All right, let's take a picture with him. Come on back. Come on. All right. Where's my -- Okay. All right, you guys. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: I think he has a -- now, one of you has to get the picture to him, okay, that's your job. >> Father: Thank you. >> Daughter: Thank you so much. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Thank you. Thank you. [ Applause ] >> CARLA HAYDEN: Wow. And he has a Baltimore Orioles cap. Woops. Baltimore. Justice, now, this question is from a 4th grade teacher and I think it's something that all of us would like to hear you talk about. When you have felt discouraged, what has helped you power through that feeling. And this is a teacher. Ms. Dorothy Cokalin [assumed spelling], who's asking for a 4th grade student. And teachers are so important in terms of being able to help outside in the home. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: So, who's that teacher? >> CARLA HAYDEN: And this is the teacher. Dorothy, Dorothy, why don't you go and see -- >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Come on down with me so I can keep walking into the back. Thank you. >> CARLA HAYDEN: You would care to ask for your students. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: How about we take a picture for your students. You know, I think wrongly now, but what I was thinking about what i would be when I grew up, I didn't think I had the patience to be a teacher. I still don't know if I could have that patience. >> Dorothy: It takes a lot. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: But I know one thing, which is the strength of our country is in our teachers. And -- [ Applause ] I, for one, really thank you, from the bottom of my heart, to every teacher whose patience seems endless and whose sacrifice on all our behalves is so great. You're never paid enough and you're never admired enough, so thank you. [ Applause ] It took me a very very long time to figure out that the best way for me to become less discouraged was to talk to people about how I felt. You know, for a lot of my life I would have self-doubt, I would be afraid, I would be sort of anxiety ridden about something. And I would try to power through it and almost ignore it. And it really eats you up. It's like your stomach's constantly churning. And in the end, when you're discouraged, you can't find the good in things, because you're discouraged. And, so, it took me a long time to realize I have to share what I'm feeling with other people. Now, that's not so easy, because sometimes you look at your parents and they may be unhappy about something and you don't want to make them more unhappy, right? So, maybe they're not the best person to share it with at that moment. Although I learned and it took me a long, long, long, long time in my life that when I share things with my mom, she made such a big difference in helping me deal with what I was dealing. But, if that doesn't or can't work for you, there's always a teacher. Sometimes there's the parent of a neighbor or one of your best friends, sometimes it's someone in your Sunday or Saturday school religious experience. And sometimes it's just another friend. And if you're a good friend and somebody comes to you who's a friend and says, "I'm in trouble, you have to help them find an adult to help you." That's what being a good friend is when you're little. But, in the end, I think it's important for every child to know that they're not alone. That what they feel are things that other children have felt, even children like me when I was little. And, so, to me, that's the first lesson. Learn how to share what's bothering you. Good luck to you. >> Dorothy: Thank you. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Take care. [ Applause ] >> CARLA HAYDEN: And, Justice, I think is another question. Well, this is a three part. First, do you anticipate writing another book in the future? You rock. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: What a great question. >> Saw you first in '76. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: My gosh. How are you. >> Good to see you. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: it's good to see you. Thank you. >> It's been a long time. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: it has been too long. I have another children's book coming out next September. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Oh, great. Good. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: And who asked that question? Over there? Okay, come on back here with me. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Come on back, because we -- it's also what book or books have been important to you personally? >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Oh, what was the second part of that question? >> CARLA HAYDEN: What book or books have been important to you? >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Well, you're going to have to read the children's book, because everything in that tells you about a book that was important to me in a different stage in my life. And even now I read book that always -- every book brings you a different insight, they bring you a different way of looking at things. I find virtually, I can't say all, but a lot of books do that for me. That's why I read. So, I learned a lot about the Canadian legal system from that thriller, you know. More than I knew, because I knew a lot about their appellate practice, because that's what I do now, but I didn't know that much about their trial practice and how similar it was to ours. But, the next children's book is about kids with life challenges. And it starts with me as a little girl being diagnosed -- and is aid, I'm a diabetic, that's why I took that shot. You shouldn't assume bad things about people. And the working title, it may have another title before we finish, is "Just Facts." I want people to know that kids who are look different or may be doing things in a different way, that they're not strange, they're just like you and me and they have a condition that they have to take medicine for or accommodate for, but they're just as important as anybody else. And that difference enriches our lives. So, I have kids who are blind and I have kids in wheelchairs, I have kids with attention deficit and Tourette syndrome and downs syndrome, and each of them has a vignette where they describe their condition and they describe how that condition has made them stronger. And it's set in a garden, and in that garden scene I point out to kids, some trees need shade, some need life. Some plants need water, and some plants need very little. And yet together all of those plants and trees create a beautiful garden. And together all of us who are different create a better world. Thank you. Thank you for asking your question. >> You're doing such good work. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Thank you. [ Applause ] >> CARLA HAYDEN: And, Justice, the -- >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: they promise you a picture. >> Thank you. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Thank you. >> CARLA HAYDEN: This was the three part question. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Oh my gosh. >> CARLA HAYDEN: With, "You Rock," after each one. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Okay. >> CARLA HAYDEN: How do you maintain your hopeful outlook in these challenging times? You rock. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: All right, who's this three part question? >> CARLA HAYDEN: Who asked that and wrote, "You rock." >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Nobody's going to own up to it? >> CARLA HAYDEN: They're still there, this is three parts. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Oh, okay. We don't have a choice, do we? We don't. We have to make the world better. I started by saying to you, "We're not bystanders in life, we can't be." We can't let things happen to us. Our responsibility is to be make a better world. And when the time gets tough, that's when the tough have to stand up. That's when we have to get up and do something. And that's the whole mission of my being a Supreme Court Justice and why I go speaking to audiences all the time. I believe in civic participation. And I believe that that's a job not just for people interested in politics. It's a job for every person who wants to live in the kind of world that they think is a fair and just world. And, so, for me when it gets hard, I know I have a job to do. It's your job and my job. I can do mine this way, because I'm a Justice and I can't get involved in politics. But you can. So, get out there and make a better world please. [ Applause ] Carla, I have to come up sit, whenever like 10 minutes before, so you have to tell me. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Well, Kelly Tansy wants to know, our last question, and there are more questions about advice, but there's the last one, Kelly Tansy, "What is your biggest piece of advice for our next generation of girls?" With a smiley face. Next generation of girls, Kelly. Where's Kelly. Oh, there's Kelly. Justice, could you go -- Kelly could you go to the Justice. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Where's Kelly? >> CARLA HAYDEN: Kelly's coming. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Kelly's coming, okay. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Because another -- >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Hello, how are you? >> CARLA HAYDEN: What advice would you give to women who aspire to be Supreme Court Justices? >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Don't ever let someone tell you you can't do it. >> CARLA HAYDEN: But Kelly wanted to -- >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: All right, Kelly, where are you? >> CARLA HAYDEN: Biggest piece of advice.' >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: We can become anything we want to through hard work, getting yourself educated and as I said before, practice. But there's a lot of naysayers who will pop up in your world. People who will tell you, "You're a woman, you can't do that." Or you can't do that because -- are you Latina? No. You look very Mediterranean, you do. But they'll tell you you can't do it because you're black. People told me I couldn't do it because I'm Latina. You know, there was some writers who said when I was nominated for the Supreme Court, you're not smart enough. Those things hurt. When people show a lack of confidence in you, it sometimes scares you away from trying, but you can't. Because you know you and you know how strong you can be, and you know how hard you can work. And you just have to look at people who say that to you and say, "That's what you think. It's not what I think." Good luck. [ Applause ] >> It's an honor to be in your presence. I'm going to tell all my -- I'm a teacher, I'm going to tell all my girls. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Thank you. [ Applause ] One of them better get you the picture. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Justice. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Yes? >> CARLA HAYDEN: I know that we have run out of time. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Uht oh, I have to go up there. Hold on. I'm going to walk around, okay? >> CARLA HAYDEN: I know you want to talk and shake hands and come back this way. Would you mind if I read a little bit from the last part of your book as you come. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: I'm going to come up, I promise you. >> CARLA HAYDEN: You come on up. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: I'll get around. How you guys up there? You're too far up, I'm sorry. Hi. Hello. Thank you, thank you. >> CARLA HAYDEN: I'm going to read the book. Because this is the very last part. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: All right, why don't you read while I walk up. >> CARLA HAYDEN: I'm reading, because -- and your beautiful illustration at the last is a puzzle piece and it's gorgeous. And the words are, flame, electricity, magic potion, friend, boat, snorkel, time machine, launch pad, lens, teacher, life preserver, mirror, map, key. The written word has been all of these things to me and more for as long as I can remember. Like flagstones on a path, every book I ever read took me the next step I needed to go and school and in life. Even if I didn't know exactly where the trail would lead. Piece by piece the puzzle came together. Where will your journey lead you? And there's a timeline of your life. And people can follow your life through reading and books as they look at the wonderful, wonderful illustrations. Now, I have to say that one of my favorite pages was describing the fact that I was lucky to have a library that was in my neighborhood. Walking distance from the home, from my home. For hours I would sail away to the wondrous lands and the stories I would choose from the stacks. The library was my harbor and books were little boats that helped me escape the sadness at home. You can see -- >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Carla, could you hold up that page with the little boat? >> CARLA HAYDEN: The one about the library? >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: The one about the library. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Yes. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: My library card is stuck in the boat. Lulu did research and found an example with the library card I had as a child. >> CARLA HAYDEN: She has a library card and it's interesting because in this illustration -- >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: And I assume every child in this room has a library card. >> CARLA HAYDEN: In this illustration the dark colors represent a time in your life when you were 9 years old. And you felt sad and confused and you needed to find a place where you could find comfort. And that was the library and that was the harbor. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: And that's still a place. Not just with quiet, but with a sense of peace, because there you have the key I found to life, the key of books. [ Applause ] >> CARLA HAYDEN: And for book lovers everywhere, you said, "Books were my loyal friends, they made it so I never felt lonely." And, Justice, thank you for -- for everything. For sharing your journey with us. [ Applause and Inaudible Talking ] >> CARLA HAYDEN: Well, I think that we have -- had truly an honor and a living testament to the power of words and books and reading. Thank all of you for waiting and being here. [ Applause ] Did you want to say anything at the end? >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Thank you, everybody. >> CARLA HAYDEN: Brava. >> JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Thank you, seriously, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you all, thank you. [ Applause ]
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