♪ >> MORE QUESTIONS REMAIN OVER TWO JORDANIAN NATIONALS IN ICE COUNTRY WHO ATTEMPTED TO GAIN ENTRY INTO QUANTICO IN A BOX TRUCK. THEY WERE IN THE U.S. ILLEGALLY AND OFFICIALS ARE REFUSING TO RELEASE THEIR IDENTITIES. NEITHER THE WHITE HOUSE OR PENTAGON HAVE OFFERED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. FOR MORE ON THIS, LET'S BRING IN FORMER DHS ACTING CHIEF OF STAFF, LORI REESE AND SAN DIEGO COUNTY SUPERVISOR JIM DESMOND. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THE STORY HAS JUST COME TO LIGHT IN THE LAST 24 TO 48 HOURS, BUT OFFICIALS HAVE KNOWN, LORI, FOR THE BETTER PART OF TWO WEEKS ABOUT THIS INCIDENT, WHICH CERTAINLY RAISES NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERNS. I JUST WANT TO PLAY FOR YOU WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE IN AN EXCHANGE PARTICULARLY WITH OUR REPORTER LUCAS TOMLINSON WHO PRESSED THE FOLKS AT THE PENTAGON. WATCH HERE. >> SO GOING TO BE REALLY MINDFUL OF THESE TWO JORDANIANS WHO YOU'RE SPEAKING OF REMAIN IN ICE CUSTODY AND GIVING IT'S AN ACTIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT MATTER. I'M AWARE OF THE REPORTS I JUST DON'T HAVE MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU. >> THIS INCIDENT HAPPENED ALMOST TWO WEEKS AGO. >> YEAH. >> YOU MAKE IT SOUND LIKE YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OF THIS INCIDENT BEFORE. >> I CAN ASSURE YOU, LUCAS, THAT WE GET UPDATES FROM ALL OF OUR BASES ALL AROUND THE WORLD AND ARE AWARE OF INCIDENTS. GRIFF: LORI, WHY DON'T THEY HAVE MORE TO SAY? >> WELL, THIS IS BAD OPTICS FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION AND THEY REFUSE TO GIVE OUT INFORMATION ABOUT THIS. AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST BASE BREACH THAT WE'VE HAD. WE HAD TWO IN MARCH AT DIFFERENT BASES IN CALIFORNIA, INCLUDING ONE BY A CHINESE NATIONAL. AND SO, THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE. ARE THESE DRY RUNS FOR TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS? AND MEANWHILE, WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE STATE ALERT THAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED IN YOUR LAST SEGMENT THAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT IS FLUSH WITH BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BRING IN REFUGEES AMONG VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THE ADMINISTRATION HAS A POOR RECORD AT VETTING THESE MIGRANTS AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING MORE THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR IN ADDITION TO PEOPLE CROSSING OUR VERY OPEN BORDER THROUGH THE BACK DOOR. GRIFF: YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT, LORI. TO BE FAIR NO TERROR RELATED MOTIVES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED OR SURFACED THIS THIS STORY, YET, WE HAVE HAD THE WARNINGS CONSTANTLY FROM FBI DIRECTOR CHRIS WRAY IN PARTICULAR ABOUT RED LIGHTS GOING OFF AND A THREAT LEVEL BEING AT A POINT HE'S NEVER SEEN, BUT YOU ALSO RAISED THE CHINESE NATIONALS AND SUPERVISOR DESMOND, I WANT TO GET TO THAT WITH YOU, BECAUSE YOU'RE AT GROUND ZERO IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY WHERE THAT'S HAPPENING. TO SHOW OUR VIEWERS THIS FISCAL YEAR PAST SEVEN MONTHS THERE HAVE BEEN 27,583 CHINESE NATIONALS COMING ACROSS. BREAK IT DOWN, 85% OR JUST UNDER 24,000 WERE SINGLE ADULTS. AND IF YOU COMPARE THIS, JUST BACK TO TWO YEARS TO FISCAL YEAR 2021, IT'S A NEARLY 8,000% INCREASE. JIM, WHY? >> WELL, THE WELCOME MAT IS OUT HERE, UNFORTUNATELY, HERE IN CALIFORNIA AND SAN DIEGO, WE'RE THE NUMBER ONE AREA NOW FOR BORDER ENCOUNTERS, AND ABOUT 10% OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE CHINESE NATIONALS NOW. IT DIDN'T USED TO BE THAT WAY. UNFORTUNATELY, CALIFORNIA, WE GIVE FREE -- WE GIVE FREE HEALTH CARE OUT. OUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN'T ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE CHINESE NATIONALS, THEY'VE GOT THIS FIGURED OUT AND UNFORTUNATELY, FENTANYL, THE CHEMICALS FOR FENTANYL ARE PRIMARILY PRODUCED IN CHINA. SO THAT'S ALSO COMING ACROSS OUR BORDERS. AND I THINK THIS IS MORE OF AN ISSUE OF PUBLIC SAFETY NOT ONLY FOR SAN DIEGO, BUT FOR THE COUNTRY AND THE FACT THAT THE PEOPLE COMING ACROSS THE BORDER ARE NOT PROPERLY VETTED. THE BORDER PATROL AGENTS ARE OVERWHELMED. THEY DO NOT TIME TO VET THESE PEOPLE AND ALSO, IN SAN DIEGO, WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE BOATS JUST BEING GROUNDED OR BEACHED ON OUR BEACHES, WHERE DOZENS OF PEOPLE WILL JUMP OUT OF THE BOATS, WALK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, GET PICKED UP. LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN'T DO A THING AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING. THIS IS MORE OF AN ISSUE, I THINK OF SAFETY FOR OUR COUNTRY, AND INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING FROM CHINA, AS YOU HAD MENTIONED, AND A LOT OF THEM ARE MOSTLY ADULT MALES BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18 TO 35. GRIFF: AND LORI, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE VETTING AND I THINK BOTH OF YOU REALLY PUT YOUR FINGER ON THE CHALLENGE FROM A NATIONAL SECURITY OR PUBLIC SAFETY RISK FRONT, AND THAT IS THE VETTING PROCESS, NOT ONLY TO A TERROR THREAT WITH THESE CHINESE, PARTICULARLY, SURGING, LORI, THE CHALLENGE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY MAY SIMPLY BE HERE TO HAVE TIES-- AND HAVE TIES FROM THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY. >> RIGHT, THEY'RE COMING FROM COUNTRIES THAT WE DON'T HAVE GREAT RELATIONS, IF ANY RELATIONS WITH. THOSE COUNTRIES, THOSE GOVERNMENTS ARE NOT GOING TO COOPERATE AND GIVE PAST CRIMINAL HISTORIES OR NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE HISTORIES FOR OUR GOVERNMENT. AND ALSO, WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CRUSH OF NUMBERS, THE BORDER AGENTS DO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE TIME TO VET WHO IS CROSSING THE BORDER AND THE ADMINISTRATION WILL JUST KIND OF WHISTLE PAST THE GRAVEYARD AS TO THE RESULTS FROM IT. MEANWHILE, SENATOR SCHUMER IS ABOUT TO RETURN TO HIS BILL AND BRING IT UP AGAIN THIS WEEK, SUPPOSED BORDER SECURITY. IT FAILED IN FEBRUARY AND IT SHOULD FAIL AGAIN BECAUSE IT WOULD CODIFY BIDEN'S OPEN BORDER TOOLS AND MAKE US EVEN MORE INSECURE. GRIFF: THAT'S A GREAT POINT, LAURA. AND JIM, I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD AND THAT IS TO TALK ABOUT, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN BRAZENNESS. THE MIGRANT WAS SHOT IN EAGLE PASS, TEXAS JUST A FEW DAYS AGO BECAUSE OF ASSAULTING A BORDER PATROL AGENT. WE'VE SEEN IT MULTIPLE TIMES. ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT WITH SO MANY MIGRANTS BEING RELEASED ON YOUR STREETS THAT IT'S PUTTING YOUR COMMUNITY AT GREATER RISK? >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. AND LIKE, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE VETTING IS NOT TAKING PLACE. I TALKED TO OUR BORDER PATROL AGENTS AND THEY TOLD US THAT IF THEY'RE ABLE TO DO ANY VETTING, THEY ONLY VET AGAINST OUR DATA BASE AND NOT FROM THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN AND IT'S FUTILE. THE ONES THAT ARE COMING ACROSS THE BORDER ENGAGED WITH BORDER PATROL AGENTS, THEY ARE FINGERPRINTED, BUT THE PEOPLE COMING IN BOATS AND JUMPING OVER THE FENCE AND GOT -AWAYS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO THEY ARE, WHERE THEY'RE GOING, WHAT ARE THEIR INTENTIONS. FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE IT'S NOT SAFE FOR OUR CITIZENS TO HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE ENTERING THE COUNTRY AND WITHOUT KNOWING WHO THEY ARE AND BACKGROUNDS. GRIFF: AND IT'S THE GOT-AWAYS THAT THE CHIEF SAYS KEEPS HIM UP AT NIGHT. MORE THA