UPS for Your Synology or QNAP NAS - 8 Things You Need to Know & Recommend UPS' to Buy

foreign [Music] today I want to talk about these UPS's used in conjunction with these over-year network attached storage devices and in today's video I want to go through all of the things that you need to know before you buy yourself a ups for your now server but before we go any further we have a whole bunch of disclaimers to get out the way number one I'm not going to really talk about recommended UPS's for your Nas setup until the end of the video I've got a whole detailed video in the works right now where I'm going to look at one and two bays and four bays and six and eight bays and recommended different UPS's for those and it's a much much bigger video than this but at the end of this video I will quickly summarize all of those recommendations right at the end of the video so if you're looking at the bottom of the video on the time bar there there should be a chapter there at the end that will tell you the exact recommendations if you come to the video for specific UPS recommendations head there this the rest of the video is about giving you a lot of things you need to know to before you buy UPS all the things that you may forget all the things that people always Overlook when they're buying a UPS not just when they're getting the ups for Nas but just generally when they spend too much or they buy the wrong ups for their needs as well as this I've also done a video where I've detailed a lot more about the mathematics behind UPS's so for example this whole business of when you see them online and they're listed with the Via voltage amps there and a lot of times the devices we use are listed by watts in terms of their power consumption and the overall P issues they use you have to do a bunch of maths there I've already worked out in another video that's Linked In the description along with an article below that we'll break that down for you but don't worry all of the Nazis all of the UPS's I'm going to talk about are going to make sure to break them down into the what coverage there that they include it can be very very important indeed but again this video is about detailing the things that people always forget about UPS's as well as helping you understand not only what a UPS is but also how to choose the right one for your home or office environment there let's cut on to number one so straight off the bat this is a common one and this is to do with that number whenever you see UPS is being displayed they always have that V8 number there at the front it'll be 1 000 V8 850 or 650 or whatever V like that voltage amps numbers there but it's you should be more concerned with the Watts that that translates into now there are loads of calculators online that allow you to work that out but the majority with the exception weirdly of APC the majority of the brands out there that produce UPS's and lots of brands have risen to the front including Amazon themselves that I'll touch on later on um have arrived on the scene they publish the uh conversion um to what's for you you don't have to do that maths anymore so you can if you want use calculators if you like working in voltage amps which is an odd way to work when everything else is in Watts but still nonetheless right now you don't have to go down that road most of these Brands particularly cyberpower for their credit publish the what um the what coverage and draw on their systems on their main pages and indeed if you break down into a lot of the product pages they actually break that down quite well into different devices as well [Music] often overlooked and something that isn't quite as cut and dry as people think a lot of the devices we buy have a PSU that PSU is what's effectively taking direct Mains current that's going into your home or office and making it ready available to the operational features within any of our technology however the number that stayed on there is a maximum number so in the case for example of all of these Nazis here I've got next to me they all arrive with external psus of different sizes so there's a 36 watt PSU with this one this device down here is a 100 watt PSU this device here has a 90 watt PSU all of them arrive with external power bricks there that are rated to that power however that is not the power they are using all the time it is a maximum number and much like when you buy a two liter bottle of soda or Coke or any soft drink that you want if you buy a two liter bottle of something yes there's two liters in there but if you keep using it it can hold old less than that it doesn't always have two leads in it you can fill it up halfway if you choose and ultimately when it comes to the psus the power supply unit internal or external for your PCS for your laptops for your phones and your natives that number represents a maximum and just because it's the maximum doesn't mean it's going to be drawing that all of the time so when you factor in devices for your UPS it is sensible to work with those as maximums so if a PSU on analysis say 90 Watts it is sensible to provision that NASA's 90 Watts as a block because that is the maximum potential draw but it's worth remembering when push comes to shove then unless you are flat out using all of its build little features drives pcis and everything you're not going to be drawing that full sum and it's about having that channel of um what bandwidth if you will open between the Nas and the UPS do bear that in mind now this next one may seem a little bit counter to what I just spoke about there with regards to maximum coverage of those psus that these devices arrive within what but it is incredibly important that you over provision that power because whether you are utilizing your UPS to keep these devices running for an indefinite period so you can continue using them or just enough time to safely save docs and let the device automatically or manually shut down you need to over provision so say for example you're going for a UPS of um when it's converted after VA into what conversion that it covers 500 or 600 watts now say for example you are utilizing a NASA at 120 or 100 watt PSU so you've got 100 watt PSU to factor in these still got 400 or so to play with there on that UPS right well if you're going to be connecting PCS to that device as well some of those might be ranked at a 250 watt PSU if you're a laptop you're lucky it might be smaller using efficient processes but they'll add those up and what you might find is you've already got 100 to 150 watts left to play with now it is very important that you have sufficient extra power on top of what you kind of provisioned and blocked for for your devices to allow for these devices to run for an indefinite period after the event of a power failure now of course that goes to intermittent power your failure and stuff like that that we've talked about before like brownouts and stuff like that but depending on your own setup and what you intend to do in the event of a power shutdown whether it is that you're thinking it's just going to be a temporary one minute or 10 second drop or longer you need to provision ahead and what I recommend is when you are adding up all of your devices and if you've got a 250 watt PC or 100 watt laptop a bunch of miscellaneous devices at around 50 watt Aggregate and 100 watt PSU take whatever that number is and then add 50 to 70 50 if you intend for the devices to safely save documents and shut down and 70 if you want to run checks and making sure everything's running fine before you manually shut it down or use some UPS's auto shutdown where it's it's running out of power itself and then forces devices to shut down but always over provision for that power don't just add up the wattage of all the devices you've got connected and then get a ups for that exact number [Music] this is another point that often gets overlooked in one specific way but just because a UPS has a higher rating in terms of v i and therefore what coverage than another UPS doesn't mean they're equal in terms of plugs and outputs now you think the bigger the VA of what rating the more Port it's going to have but that's just simply not the case and because a lot of the time these are the same similar chassis being used by these Brands and then they add more batteries to add more coverage in therefore more power the result is the chassis space never really changes and therefore the number of plug points very rarely increases that much now for example in the case of this device here this 1500 VA rated cyberpower this one here has eight sockets there on the rear whereas this device is 750 VI we turn it around these are not like devices this has six plugs there on the rear only two plug difference but twice the coverage in terms of va there and on top of that it's worth highlighting that when you do get a device that's got multiple plugs some of them will be surgery protected and some of them not some devices they get more more complex as you can see here some of them have individual surge protection and other features that the others don't and it divert and divide certain features between the plugs for more higher or lower priority devices so sometimes what you see between two UPS's of near identical power on their identical price point is that the plug coverage differs between them so always make sure there's enough plug points obviously for all the devices you're going to connect you would have thought that but also check if that although it may say six to eight plugs that some of them are better than others and therefore will there be enough plugs to cover the more for high priority devices for the features you need now technically most users will afford this but the sad point is not everyone has and it will affect by the way your buying decision when you're going for a UPS not just for an house but just generally because a lot of people used to assume that you'd get a UPS in case the power fails in your home or office environment if the power fails you can carry on doing your work and either shut down the devices or keep working until the power comes back on Fair and well but things aren't that simple there are things such as intermittent power so what you end up with is although the power going into your home or office environment is fine the actual wiring or current in your building isn't a one and the result is you may have slightly faky flaky power allowing the power adoption and circuitry in your home or business environment some of which may be beyond your control because you don't own it and you're letting or rent in the office space then the result is you may not even be aware of just how flaky that on what is and that's another great reason to have that running into an ass and then into a UPS and all the other devices running from the UPS where they're directly into it or using power Splitters coming out of this device with like extensions and more on top of that there is a term that is growing in utilization and that's brown out to other like unlike a blackout where it all goes away Brown air again is about that slightly wavy electric um support but outside of your office environment and becoming a great deal more Regional if you're living in more rural areas or currently due to uh power energy price crisis and energy availability crisis in area of Europe in areas of Europe due to the Russia Ukraine conflict still persisting at this time the result is that we're seeing a lot of power access um kind of failures and dips all across Europe that again will be served to be kind of avoided with the right UPS now a lot of that you may know if you're going to get UPS anyway you might be thinking oh who cares I'm going to get the UPS anyway I'm covered you might not be because not all UPS's working that way and what you don't want to go for is a particularly cheap ups that although it has surge protection to protect you from a massive delivery of power it doesn't have the intelligence to understand low power injection and the result is you may have a UPS that when you have small or intermittent dips in your power it will switch over and send incorrect signals to your devices to shut them down when you don't want them to or it will be a device that when it's charging the batteries it will actually be detrimental to the batteries because it's not intelligent enough to understand the difference between a blackout or a brown out so do bear that in mind if you're getting a UPS because you are in a home office environment where you are getting it less because of all out power cut and more because of intermittent wavy power make sure you go through ups that is intelligent enough to understand the difference between them and therefore be a great deal more effective and efficient in its deployment when needed [Music] you know how they say how expensive printer ink is well another area of I.T where there is kind of an artificial pricing in place is to do with replacement batteries on UPS devices now this is going to slightly tread on the toes of the pawn I'm going to make after this so I'll leave it there just wanted to add that point but when it comes to getting a UPS that has either replaceable batteries in its lifetime or has battery expansion packs that you can put in these work out tremendously expensive and they are based on the idea that when you do set up a UPS in your home or office environment that you it's not really convenient you just completely Chuck the device and get a brand new one you want to keep the setup keep the rig and all you want to do is take out the batteries that may have gone beyond their 100 effective lifespan and generally batteries inside a UPS come with between a two and three year guaranteed warranty supported replacement period and then they kind of built around the idea that it's is going to be so difficult to remove the UPS in its current environment that you buy the battery packs or an expansion pack of power to bolster its coverage in terms of uh volt amps and watts now the reason I talk about the expense there is because you are sort of being taken for a ride because of the convenience of those those packs much like network attached storage devices and expansions when you get a Nas this Nas here for example this is the ds920 you can pick it up for about 500 knicker it's a four by there it's got intelligence with CPU remember it runs the whole thing you know it's got its own right it does everything an expansion for that is to add five Bays onto it the dx517 a five back expansion it has no brain no raid no network connectivity that is an eSATA jbod which have existed for about 15 years and that device is about 400 pounds it is almost the cost of another Nas but you are paying for the convenience of adding five drives to an existing setup that methodology exists here with UPS's that require that bike that I've built around the idea of buying battery packs over charging substantially so do bear that in mind if you're going for a UPS device and you have been convinced or at least slightly won over by the idea that you can keep the unit and add in new batteries for the sake of sustainability do bear in mind that those extra batteries and add-on packs come with a hefty cost indeed [Music] however one way to get around the cost of those batteries of course is to double down on power early doors yes you're still going to be contending with that idea of how much power the batteries are going to be able how long they're going to last for but when you buy what these devices early doors as much as those battery expansions and add-on packs cost later to continue your existing machine when you look at a lot of these series from the beginning such as this the Cyber power Eye Series here available in 750 1000 and 1500 and I believe it's gone up to 2000 as well in terms of voltage amps I will state that each tier of those 750 1000 1500 Etc is very very small and if you try to buy those little modules of batteries later as add-ons it's going to cost you substantially more so what I'm saying is if you think you're going to go for a UPS that's 750 VA you may find that just paint just a little bit more for a 1000 is so small that given that this system is going to last for a number of years in the amount of effectiveness of those batteries even after two years or three years when those batteries might say we're not running at 100 efficiency there's still going to be a larger capacity overall because you spent less early on so the depreciating factor of 1000 VA when you should when you were originally looking at 750 will mean that even at lower efficiency there it should over it should compensate and find a balance there so it's cheaper to buy the bigger version of the UPS earlier than it will be to buy the smaller UPS now and go for battery packs later or replacement batteries down the line you are going to have to balance that of course just a little bit in little factors like uh whether you're going to need increased plug points or if they're there at all and of course the actual cost of charging this up each time if it is going to to be a depreciating Factor but overall I would still recommend if you're concerned about the overcast of those extra batteries to in in swappable UPS's or battery packs I would say overshoot on the early UPS you go for because the extra couple of years it may give you will kind of balance out rather than spending more on those packs down the line [Music] once again this next Point may seem counter-intuitive but because of the market for UPS's has opened up substantially over the last few years to introduce other brands and other providers into the market and again we aren't going to look at ones that provide batteries that die after a year we're only talking about brands that will supply at least two years of coverage on those individual batteries there and two to three years on system warranty as well but because the market has got a lot more contenders in it the actual pricing of UPS's has become a great deal more attractive than just a handful of years ago when APC were largely dominating the whole Market they still have the line share but I would not say their position is as dominant as ever and the result is that in some cases and more often than you think it actually works out more cost effective and better overall to go for a small and a medium sized UPS than to go for one larger one overall and by that what I mean is yes there's going to be devices in your home or network environment that are a priority maybe the PC you use for work may be your ups and other devices that are priorities that are really low power like your router like a switch and these devices don't all have to draw from the same UPS do they and rather than going for a larger UPS what you can go for is an incredibly low end 30 to 50 pound UPS to run switches routers and stuff like that all of these devices that have 12 watt and 20 watt psus that once again won't be added capacity and then get a separate 350 to 500 watt PSU uh UPS to support those more priority devices again like NASA's that maybe have 100 watt PSU like your home PC or laptop that has two to 250 watt PSU now again the reason you make a saving compared with going for one larger uh UPS there is because all of those are going to be running from the same plug Point all of them you're going to be separating that power and over compensating them accordingly but your router can run for an exceptionally long amount of time on that low power and the way that you're Nas you'll want to auto shutdown and some kind in some cases you won't want all the devices to shut down you're certainly not going to want your router to shut down that's going to be one of the last things you want to shut down so that's another conventional not just the fact that you can make that saving but you want to make sure that some devices are on a circuit where you don't want them or don't need them to safely power down and other and others you do want to safely shut down so again the saving isn't huge but it can actually be quite effective to run a small and a medium UPS rather than a large one this last point isn't really one of those things people forget points but really just something of housekeeping but a lot of users aren't aware that Amazon have their own Basics range of UPS's that cover between 350 and 500 watts and they are by far the cheapest in the market they still provide the warranty and coverage that I would definitely say is a minimum that you expect from these devices but for those of you out there that are running very very modest setups and we're not just talking about you know one or two days I'm talking ones that are running on real Tech processes there or analysis that are really only being used for multimedia or you live on like a houseboat or something or you're living on a mobile home these UPS's have very good very good reviews they are built by the brands that we've talked about but re-badged and ultimately these are a much much more cost effective ups that a lot of users still don't really know about and I recommend if you're gonna go for an incredibly cost effective ups and you aren't any kind of hybrid business user maybe check those out I'll link to a couple of them in the description but there isn't a huge range and their stock is really really light due to them just being very very popular but weirdly unknown [Music] which brings us now to the UPS's I would recommend for different Nas setups again as mentioned I'm going to do a much much more detailed version of this particular segment of the video in its own Standalone video very soon but for those of you that came to this video where you've bought a Nas or you're on the verge of buying a Nas and you want to know the right UPS out for your needs let me go through them so I haven't just broken this down into the nas size but no one's going to own a NASA not other equipment so let's start off with the first entry point there this will be people that go for a one or two by Nas these are users that have at least one uh standard PC so I'm going to say a 250 watt desktop PC you can have a router let's go really greedy and say a 30 watt PSU router there and miscellaneous equipment you know monitors uh bits and Bobs and maybe some sort of office peripheral we're going to give that maybe 50 watt on top there so if your setup is a one or two Bay now so again that's going to be 60 to 90 Watts hopefully this is all on screen if you're in the UK I would still recommend going for this iupc it's the APC 8 Port it's the be 650 G2 this will give coverage up to about 400 watts and again much like I mentioned earlier in this video as it's part of a series range it actually scales you can get one as low as 150 watts of coverage up to 520 watts of coverage within that scale but I would say for a one or two base setup plate safe and go for the 400 watt one there the 650 G2 because that will give you ample coverage for safe shutdown and maybe even running some of the stuff there in the background um on top of that I'd say if you're in the US things are slightly different when it comes to buying a UPS between the UK and Europe and the US not only because of the presentation of these uh but also how devices are advertised with their power usage um and for you guys still within the APC but I would recommend going for the be 600 M1 and that is it's a seven Port switch there um and this seven uh not seven ports with seven port EPs and it's again it scales as low as 330 watts of coverage up to 520 Watts there and again both of these ups as I've discussed here they both knock around for about 80 to 100 maybe 110 of your local currency there so again if you're running a one or two by those are the two what I'd recommend right now and I will detail this in the article below so don't worry about writing down those epoxy model IDs they'll be listed now for four to six base this is where things can get a little bit tricky because most four Bays arrive with an external PSU whereas six Bays that's where you start to see a lot more desktop Nas devices that have got internal psus and internal psus generally the you know for the sake of cost efficiency they're going to be higher so for the four bay we're going to scale for between 100 watt 100 watt PSU and 250 watt for this four to six by Nas device there now alongside that if you're going to go for a four or six by you're going to be a slightly bigger setup there so I'd say two PCS at least a 251 again you can scale that laptops will be less you might be running a Macbook that's super efficient or you know tablets and stuff like that but I'm going to give 500 watt that's two 250 watt PCS I'm going to say uh Boca router and a switch so again uh 30 watt and 20 25 watt respectively then on top of that for your miscellaneous equipment basically double what I talked about just now so we're going to give that 100 watt on top also if you're running that kind of setup with those kind of machines you're going to expect a little bit more than just auto shutdown so I'm going to say around 5 to 10 minutes um of run time on those devices and an auto shutdown at low power on the UPS now for those two of you in the UK I would recommend the Cyber power follow-up to this one uh that is the PFC series uh that has a again a range of coverage between 780 watts and 900 watts I'm sorry I keep looking at my notes but there's a lot to take in retailing uh for as low as 200 odd knicker depending on the watch you go for it goes up to about 252 80 um and that is a six outlet six plug all all of those ports from what I understand are all search protected as well there and again all of the UPS's I'm talking about today have either full or partial network communication as well either by a UPS connection or just general Network keep because they've got a land port attached now if you're in the US you actually do quite well did the same product series from cyberpower is available but due to improvements in the pricing uh and particularly towards the batteries that are included you can pick up the 12 Outlet version the CP 1500 for a very similar price and it's got uh there's a more choices of different uh voltage amps which of course converts into wattage but if you're gonna go for a four to six by you're gonna need to aim somewhere at that between uh five maybe 750 watts have coverage there to have that extra compensation and if you are running a pro setup there particularly if you're running fours or six base that are running more aggressive CPUs and therefore have um better pcie upgrade options on there then do spring a little bit extra and go for the higher NCP 1500 there that will cover up to 900 watts now for 8 to 12 Days that's where things get really complex not so much in the nas department but more towards people people that buy 8 to 12 by Nazis that is the rack mount entry point there so not only are you running Nazis that are going to have between 250 and 500 watt psus but also with the rack mounts you may even be factoring in redundant psus as well on top of this the setup you're going to have an 8 to 12 byte is mostly always business or at this point we've moved out of small business and into medium business and even entering the tippy toes of high the result is at least four PCS communicating with it so we're gonna go again with our 250 Watts you're going to have a thousand watt PSU consideration for your PCS and then on top of that alongside the router you're probably going to be factoring in 10 GBE due to the throughput of those Nazis and a lot of 10 GBE switches have got enhanced pan a lot of 10g switches have external PSU for that matter as well so you can have to scale that up I'm going for 100 watt PSU keeping the router one as well and then finally miscellaneous equipment we're going to quadruple what we started with and get to 2 250 watt for the individual accessories so at this point not only have you got all that additional power but because you've got so many bits of client Hardware in the mix on top of that you're going to have to take into consideration the length of time you need them to run because that much Hardware it's not going to be convenient for a nice auto shutdown on all of them as soon as the UPS kicks in so you're going to have to factor in and provision a decent amount of extra time to factor all that in the result is that the UPS's we're looking at now we've got to exceed 2000 ba and if you're a UK user and thinking about going you know future proofing on this and desktop ones are hard to come by I would recommend apc's um smart synwave supported version there it should be on screen and this is available in as low as 750 VI which again isn't really appropriate to this but goes all the way up to 3 000 VA which roughly translates to about two and a half close to 2700 Watts depending on each one of the individual tiers you go for now not all good news the price tag is going to be between 1200 and 1700 I say dollars because it actually translates to both pounds and dollars pretty evenly currency hasn't had a blinding looking here at all also this device has eight Outlet points there to cover all the devices that I've spoke about but if you need more Outlet points that's where you're going to have to start looking into those rack mount devices as well there and again when you reach this tier once you exceed about 2000 VA that's when you want to make sure the UPS devices you look at have got support of say um in short client insurance cover APC includes that on some of their devices but also that whole kind of guarantee on the batteries of two to three years so if they do start sharing any signs of inefficiency or loss of production do you get them replaced within that period there now I could talk about rack mounts but when we do get into the recommends of 1624 bays and higher that's when you're talking about multiple UPS's or you're talking about two three four you rap man UPS's that are kind of built to order to a degree and that's when you suddenly see price tags of you know 1700 2000 jump to four five ten and higher so do bear that in mind but this has been a before you buy and should you buy a helpful guide on UPS's four Nas and I hope you found this helpful this is a tremendously mystifying subject for a number of users out there and I've tried to keep this as chewable as possible but as I say there'll be a follow-up guide to this detailing a lot more on those recommendations of UPS's as well as below a link to a full breakdown and guide to all of the UPS's I've recommended for different scales and I'll factor in a few other options for different preset scenarios there too click like if you've enjoyed the video subscribe if you want to learn more use the free advice and guides over at NAS Compares free advice blue button on the 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Length: 32min 54sec (1974 seconds)

Published: Mon Jan 23 2023