UNNERFS and a week of the Weirdest Meta Ever!

welcome to the meadowbreakers podcast episode 50. this is a special episode because it is a number that is a derivative of 100. so this is a fantastic day welcome to the 50th meta breakers podcast starring your three hosts as usual d money games warshack and myself dracocat i hope you guys are having an amazing weekend how are you doing today boys i'm actually kind of sad i was hoping for like a little bit more with like my introduction in specific but i don't know it's just like d money you know i was like i was usually there's some adjectives beforehand but uh i felt like this one we could be a little bit more like hands-off you know if we don't if we do something crazy every time then there's no control you know it's [Laughter] doing pretty good though good to see everybody in chat and and and on my screen as well these these two beautiful co-hosts here how's it going war shack it's going pretty good uh i haven't played too much uh hearthstone this week uh due to everything you know the upcoming stuff which we'll be covering in just a little bit but i have uh been able to squeeze out quite a few bike rides these past like one to two weeks and my legs are hurting which is a good thing normally after the bike rides the legs don't hurt because i'm pretty used to them but like 20 miles for like eight days in a row nine days in a row now like i'm feeling the burn the tush is on fire [Music] how many how many miles do you do like it's anywhere between um like 15 to 25 uh depending on how many laps i do around this lake so from my house to this park it's roughly like three and a half four miles and then once you get to the park there's like all these bars and like restaurants and then there's this trail um which is pretty big around the lake and it's about a two and a half mile circle and there's like all these things to like there's like a dog park and then there's like docks there's benches there's like places to stop and there's like statues so there's like stuff all around this lake so it's pretty pretty nice to just ride around i'll do like maybe like three or four laps and then you know stop and get beer and then ride home so sounds like a nice adventure oh yeah i mean every time you go there's like new stuff and there's so many doodles oh my god the amount of dogs people walk they're cats like it is just like every time you go there's some like thing that you're just like yep so it's nice it's very nice yeah that's that must be nice i haven't left the house in a long time um but yeah just just getting to experience just seeing everything outside you know just getting exercise that sounds that sounds wonderful um i mean when you say miles 20 miles like that i have no idea what that means really like that seems like a lot just because like i don't know i don't ride bikes but it's really not too bad it sounds a lot worse than what it is but once you're riding like it kind of just goes like you're paying attention to other things you're listening to music you're looking at you know possibly joggers that look nice so it's it's the time the time it's it's very like leisurely but you know it's not leisurely this matter right now boom they murdered my boy we're all the way at the bottom oh my god uh yeah what happened there yeah man you've been taking time off draco you haven't been streaming as much so the demon hunter is vomiting you have you're not posting your your 55 60 win rate demon hunter x so everybody's scrounging for scraps right now and currently they're hovering at 48 they can't do it without you man they need you in the fight i thought it was crazy reading the vicious syndicate report where they were like they said they didn't have enough data to do anything on any deck other than otk demon hunter i was like wow it's like everything i play um they had no data on it you got to stream again man i mean i i streamed on thursday that counts right like that's not like a long time ago in the streaming world that's like three whole days yeah you're right dude three whole days is insane [ __ ] yeah i mean i do i do see that uh i mean in top legend at least i only play like it's like 95 percent chance that it um that is otk demon hunter um and then like the the like you still don't even play against even hunter that much overall so uh yeah i could see it being that low because there's just so many other decks that are just like very powerful and like otk demon hunter i feel like you have to be in like a mood to play it you know are you gonna like yeah i don't know probably uh do it's crazy that this if you read the report though they talked about like how ogre manser's good and ogre manser is kind of good um it's kind of crazy that no one played that card until yeah like the last couple of weeks but it just locks a lot of decks up yeah yeah it's weird because you'd get it off what it was probably mostly seen from bear off when it hits a five drop right then you get ogre manser and then you're like damn this is amazing but no one actually had played the card but when you ever whenever you got it it felt really good right so that's like a weird correlation that you would just like it was a fantastic card to get but yet no one ever gets it into their deck so now you just run it yeah it's actually it's actually good against like every class yeah seven health is a ton yeah seven health is already like it's a decent amount of health and like uh almost every single class maybe with the exception of warrior um they run so many spells like uh like mage there's there's a lot of mage spells there's a lot of uh a lot of paladin spells a lot of uh priest like to deal with this like you have to you're a rogue like rogue is not the main one right yeah you have to deal with it with spells so like it's it's actually it's actually a nuisance and like it's very strong and and it's cool that like people found like this hidden kind of uh metabreaker there i say in in the in there you know it's really good against demon hunter too because like you can't use your twin slices you can't skull into it you basically are relying on like top decking into kanye if like you even play any spell into it because there's no way to do it unless you're running immolation aura which is not that's so difficult you know it's just to have that just so you can play spells i don't know man it's it's incredibly frustrating what a good card you played it against me today and i was like i can't deal with this thing and i ended up having you created like a bunch of tutus against me and i was like okay well this is obnoxious it was good in that situation too and you were playing like combo druid it didn't make any sense but you were just like uh what am i gonna do [Laughter] that's it's funny well oh yeah it doesn't look like there's anything too new in like the the movement of classes right here paladin stills up top rogue is still up top hunter i'm assuming highlander's still up top uh do we want to move into the one atop 1k to see if anything has shaken up since last week sure let's do it let's take a look see here oh we do have some some movement i think i think i remember rogue all three of those rogues being below res priest so now they have overtaken raspberries wow how exciting [Laughter] all right i can't wait to be back to playing ladder today yeah so it looks like rogue is performing well yeah um so there there is uh there are going to be changes to standard very soon i don't know if there's an exact date for them yet but um what is going to happen is there's going to be or we're going to go over these unnerfed soon but there's going to be a bunch of unnerfs to a bunch of cards and then there's also going to be nerfs to potentially like some burst cards maybe maybe some road cars there was a leak that um nitro boost poison is going to cost two mana um don't know if it's it's not completely confirmed yet but it was in a deck recipe put out by blizzard i believe yeah so they corrected it really fast which kind of solidifies the point that it was an accident that they leaked that you know what i mean when they corrected on their website immediately when people noticed um so uh you have a lot of changes coming up soon but until then yeah this is probably what you're going to be looking at um but i mean now with the masters tour going on uh people might be playing more of the decks that they see in the master store um so we might see a little like we might see some popularity for uh maybe like secret mage secret mage did perform well like the one guy that brought it he did do very well with secret mage he ended up going 7-2 i believe um just missed top 16 and uh yeah we might we might see a little changes like like some changes or people trying out some other decks that they maybe haven't played before just because they're excited to play it after watching them tournament but yeah i think this is like exactly what it's been for like the past three weeks these decks here yeah i mean there wasn't a lot of viewers watching the masters tour so it's kind of crazy to think that it would have some kind of like huge impact on the meta as a whole but i feel like that's probably from like your perspective at a high legend point where like the people that you're playing against are always people that are gonna watch that and care about what other people play and be inspired to play the things that other people played from that i feel like the general player base probably isn't going to be like oh wow that one guy brought secret mage to the masters tour and almost got top eight with it so that means i'm gonna do great with it on ladder most people probably won't make that connect right i mean the secret mage is also like a more affordable deck i guess and uh something that maybe like the lower elo player would want to play or like maybe even have already so then they're like oh secret mage is doing pretty well it's time to bust out my secret mage you know oh yeah he can make it to the top he can almost make it top 16 in the master store bro come on i got to get legend with this i'm topsy i know this is kind of skipping ahead to the next section but are the unnerfs gonna happen before the rotation is that confirmed uh the rotation and everything the the rotation's gonna happen on the on the 30th um okay and then the yeah the nerfs are going to happen about a week before i heard the date the 23rd being uh thrown around i'm not sure if that's correct that is correct warship i mean that's what i heard so basically how it panned out was the pre re like the pre-packs the the pre-orders they had stopped uh like they mentioned they're gonna stop having them in the 22nd which would indicate that the expansion would hit the 23rd but then blizzard has announced that the expansion is being released the week later so because of that they've delayed it a week which means our patch which they said got delayed a week so theoretically it should have pushed it back to what they're now saying is the 23rd so i mean it just kind of matches up to what they've done you know what i mean they delayed everything a week so that's how it lines up they're not being very transparent on dates and that's kind of surprising giving given that we're so close but i guess they just don't want to put it in stone because they want to make it like a hype surprise possibly like oh by the way here's your update and like like it's coming out tomorrow and then everybody's like really excited right but if you know it's coming maybe it's not like as exciting i mean i don't know there has to be a strategy here somewhere right i don't think they would be so not transparent for no reason whatsoever yeah i mean it's gonna be a crazy week when there's the unnerf week like when all of the cards that are supposed to be that are like that they get that treatment because there's so many cards that they're adjusting that the meta is going to be insane it's it's because like did you see the galacron shaman all of the nerfs are like yeah baby unnerved so we can we could go into that to that that whole thing right now let's get it let's keep going rotation yeah i mean it is going to be different uh it's definitely nice if there's gonna be something like changed up but like it's gonna be different but it's not gonna be new really like the only new thing is like yes yet you get to incorporate new the newer cards with those decks from the past uh but like i don't know for me gallicron shaman i don't want to see it bro like it's coming back dad it's not that bad do you remember day one oh yes but that's no that's only a know there shutter there were like things like zentimo and like some other stuff to make the deck really really good um but they're gone i mean there's a lot of powerful cards in the in the game still so i don't i don't know i haven't looked to see if if if that deck in particular is going to be really good but just the fact that like these old decks are coming back it's like it's cool but like it's like i don't know i just want the new stuff like at least it's something different but like i i'm sure there's gonna be some toxic stuff sure i'm sure it'll be toxic but it's only a week of whatever the hell people figure out is horrible you know again but that'll be fun yeah i mean i'm just gonna play reno mage and that's it so wow such flavor very wow um i don't think the like a one week pocket meta is not it just i don't mind it at all it's a single week uh honestly i would love a rotating format i mean we've talked about it before where every month there's like three sets that enter and you know they're just like a random three sets it's just like ranked and so any sort of like big change for a short period of time just take advantage have fun and then the new set will come out and everything will be normal well not normal but you know have fun solidified yes fun and hearthstone oh the reason this is not in english guys is because this is what d money sent me and it's what we could find for all the new changes i'm just saying where i got it from man i didn't find it uh d-money was practicing his new language and he was expecting all of you to also be interested in practicing this so y'all are just gonna have to blame the money on that one you don't know japanese chat what are you kidding me come on watch more anime chat all right all right let's keep going let's look at these unnerves okay this probably doesn't matter right um i mean it makes them substantially better for like druid like actually like a tech of like a one of for like silence because he does two damage or he silences which is nice um but yeah not not too crazy uh lord going back to draw two or heal five uh is pretty important in regards to like just it not being like the worst possible card you could have but it's still like not pretty trash yeah it's not that great a hunter this is a massive change the starving buzzard uh yes and uh is this staying in the core set uh no remember okay no it's not in the core set but they're unnerfing it which means we'll we'll have it up for a week and standard again in the old form oh face hunter is gonna be ridiculous because of the other changes like they reverted leper gnome so now leper gnome's gonna be a two one and then toxic reinforcements is gonna summon two ones instead of one ones um yeah abusive sergeant's gonna be a one mana two one so like face hunter is gonna be ridiculous for a week it's gonna be nasty yeah you're just proving my point about it not being too fun this pocket this is this meta here but no just play control decks let's play control warrior or something did you see they also confirmed i mean obviously toxic reinforcement gives you three unnerfed leper gnomes now so they're all two ones when it comes out as well so what rob just said yeah is that what you just said i'm sorry it might have been the exact words i just said all right continue this is why people call you a crackhead no he's just he was reiterizing the point that it was very powerful and he wanted chat to you know understand it was it was thank you something like that yeah um no the sorry buzzard starring buzzer that's a huge on nerf like a lot of these like on nerfs are like really they they are a big deal but like this one is specific this was a big change i mean five men of the two mana you don't even care about the stats at all um so like buzzer coming back you're gonna see a lot of hunter fans very happy and then playing their hunter again so um for those who don't know what this card does because they've never seen it because it sucks the like so every is it it's every beast you summon you draw a card correct yeah so this in combination with stuff like unleash the hounds chat which they also reverted back to two mana so for four mana you get to summon this guy summon a bunch of doggos draw a bunch of cards and in general hunter has always one of its weak points has been drawing and that's just because it's more of an aggressive deck and for certain classes to be able to have certain draw mechanics are limited looking at like shaman hunter so now this gives hunter the ability to have massive draw swing turns while also putting stuff on the board while also hitting you in the face for a low mana yeah and it's also summon not play so that does uh i don't know what other cards really work with it too well but uh the pets the the petting zoo which one yeah that works for the two um adorable infestation i think does too um there's a lot a lot that uh it's just gonna be really really good it's gonna be nuts yeah it's kind of crazy yeah with the doorbell infestation that's one mana summon a 1-1 draw card with this and then you get another one one in your hand to play to draw another card yeah so you can just pop off like with not much so dc better be happy about this i don't know how you're doing players yeah i mean it's only going to be insane for a week and then it's in wild forever so yeah i mean hunter got some really good changes as well like flare to one mana i think i think flair one minute you just play it honestly um in highlander it's it's actually just like i mean one man to draw a card is like decent and you have that potential upside which is just really nice um yeah yeah and it's good against rogues like it's good it kills secrets it it'll unstealth rogue minions which that's a big deal right now whether or not you kill the minion it just stops them from playing the gray heart stage so they can't you know they always like to draw um through their stealth so yeah i mean i don't see why you just wouldn't play flare as a nice nice one-man and draw one with only an upside yeah why not and the next card dinosaur master blanc that's it i don't like it yeah uh bran is back to his original form there i mean highlander hunter is just going to be really nice man such a short-lived nerf yeah i mean you could say the same thing about something that's coming up soon that's very toxic but uh yeah bran coming back uh highlander hunters gotta be it's gotta be good hunter's name probably makes the cut too probably one minute makes them health one great yeah you kill whatever you want for one mana seems pretty reasonable yeah a lot of good cards for hunter like you see druid with those two cards the keeper of the grove an ancient lore and then you see all these for hunter yeah not even close well hunter's already been positioned very well i mean if we look like just real quick at the meta hunter's always been number two number one number three with always over a 50 win rate and it's because of the um the highlander hunter so just making hunter cards better is only just gonna make what is an already good deck perform even more consistent so you're a hunter player happy hunter noises i'm so happy man worms going back to one though this deserved to happen i think so for the mana worm i was thinking about how it corresponds to this the conjurer lady and because she costs four and if they would have left this at three health that's such a large quantity of stats on the board for basically four mana because she's gonna have five health and then if you have two at three that's 11 health for four mana so now with it being nerfed and it comes off the lady it's definitely more easier it's it's more reasonable maybe yeah reasonable easier to deal with than it being at three health plus it's actually playable yeah the worm weave are sticking around but mana worms not yes i think that's interesting so essentially wormweaver is going to summon a wild card in standard okay yeah that's interesting dude i think she's super playable now though i think she's actually really good i thought she was good before but now i think she could be actually just like playable and i'm happy she doesn't come off barrow anymore her like her off bear off and then bear off getting like the two more mana worm so you basically get four minions off bear off the little uh a little ridiculous i don't think we've ever had a standard card summon a wild card other than the time master card oh the camera toki toki did that yeah yeah um it's interesting yeah it is uh but uh yeah i mean mana worm at one mana it still might be played it might be played in like a uh a burn mage like a spell cyclone kind of thing i'm not sure if it's good enough but um if it is like it used to be really really good so could see it being good again there's a card coming up that's called invitation of surgeon and i can't wait to see what it is it's the stalling yeah yeah it's kind of an invitation of a surgeon yeah the translations are a little off but i love it it's funny no no it's good that's what this card's called if invitation goes to three it's gonna be insane it was already yeah that car was really good in that state so yeah there's no more giant unfortunately no mountain giant but uh still really good for like highlander mage um that's why i'm saying i'm gonna play highlander mage you got the conjurers calling coming back you got dragon caster bonus six yeah that's good so you can play a box on turn five again it's just it's nice oh my god you and your mage man cheating out free [ __ ] anything else i think that's it it ends with dragon caster okay yeah so mage does get some decent stuff there as well yeah yeah those are some only gets a uh a wild card being changed but that's so funny they haven't had a nerf palette in much i guess mobilization call to arms yeah i know i know that uh there's a lot of wild players uh there's still there's there are still are a lot of people that care about wild um and i know bat maisel in particular is very unhappy with these changes i don't know if it's if this change in particular is something that people uh in wild are upset about but uh i i don't know it's nice that they are making changes to wild cards because that means that they do care about the format and they want to keep those players relatively happy um so that is cool to see hopefully these changes are good for wild i have no idea really like looking at these changes if it's going to be good for wild or not but it is nice to see if they care about it yeah yeah this is definitely the better form of that card where it draws for you yeah i don't like zero minute cards have it go back to one i was talking about call to arms way better at one yeah power shield power shield's definitely is this this is not going to be in standard though it will be for a week yeah uh isn't it already it's just it's already gone though right it's already in hall of fame it's a zero mana card as a priest player you should know this d money oh yeah yeah yeah that's fine yeah um this will be played 100 yeah i don't know where my head's at you can get it off a wand maker first it's because it's in japan i don't know you can get it off of cabal and wand maker yeah that's actually super good yeah this card's nuts in priest and always has been nuts and priests it's just a very solid one mana for those of you unfamiliar it's a one man i give a minion plus what is it two health and then draw a card they got they changed this when combo priest was the [ __ ] yeah yeah nor shower cleric coin this one man at one five draw a million cards yeah and then they would play like the circle of healing and the two three and then yeah yeah interfire you for like 26 and turn four or something mm-hmm easy yeah that's gonna be that's gonna be such a good thing to get off of if there weren't enough good things to get off spelkin and uh and wandmaker here here's another one so yeah thousand blade dance these names are so much cooler because there's so much glory it's the old one but it doesn't go face so it's it's blade dance that destroys your weapon for two and it affects everything on the board so good right probably uh yeah i mean with nitro boost in the game uh it could be good it's a gigantic ale rug yeah you also have like hook scimitar for three mana you get a 4-2 weapon i don't know they can clear like gigantic boards for nothing now if they want it's probably good yeah although most rogue decks are just killing you so yeah most rogue decks don't really care about the board or actually what you do at all they they don't yeah no they care they just keep hitting you in the face yeah and then you die yeah that's why i don't even play this card really but yeah i mean it is it is just like good and i could see it being good and wild again yeah i don't really i don't know man like in king's vain maybe that's what i'm saying yeah but i don't know man but kingsman is probably sport too so kingsman yeah the smork pirate thing now but this next card this [ __ ] i don't know no offense what they were thinking like this i don't i don't yeah i don't i don't know either man i completely agree this is insane it's just the original this is this was the original one that like everybody complained about right yes yes this is the one where you needed what was it four copies of the same card and it summons five fives and then they changed it so you needed uh five copies of a card and it summoned what four fours but now it's just like you can get this quest done on turn like two with the new pirate the one minute one one pirate that summons copies of himself so yeah that like that card alone yes this just like and then you still have i guess they they changed bore right so that doesn't have charge anymore because that was also a problem was that you'd have stone tusk bore and it'd be a five it'd be a one mana five five with charge and then it would just keep shadow stepping stone tusk are making duplicates and then you just now they can run crab that'll be crazy you know crap right i'm going to five five with rush wind fury great yeah i know a lot of people didn't like this car but also a lot of people do love this card or did love this card and you could already see it in chat everybody's everybody's loving it that it's back uh well yeah because it's easy i think they're trolling i think they're trolling they're not they're not um like i saw some people like when people were putting their all-time favorite cards on on on twitter uh bloodyface luna he uh she she put this as their favorite card one of their favorite cards um and like a bunch of other people said they love this card a bunch of people it's it's like one of those cards that you love it or you hate it and uh me personally i didn't like it but a lot of people do really love it it became like kind of the model card of an uninteractive deck because it didn't matter what your opponent was doing at all you just played minions and then you ran a whole bunch of boards in their face like yeah yeah i need i'm just i'm just telling you i don't know yeah yeah i i understand but this is a fun game for one person yeah i mean it was the only card i think in hearthstone's history for the core of the deck to be nerfed three times and then it's still see tournament play and win i mean the thing is at least in wild mode now uh there's like there's ways for you to deal with this probably yeah cry like okay sure like back when it back when it wasn't standard uh and it was broken like it was just very one of the reasons why it was so frustrating was because you didn't really have too many ways to deal with uh this onslaught of five fives but now now maybe in wild mode you do you do actually just have ways to deal with it so it's not as uh oppressive nevermind this time period the way to beat crystal core was to make them run out of their minions like clearing them all as five fives where now rogue has secret passage that's true which means they don't run out of hand space like they used to so i don't know man i don't know i still think it's probably going to be insane but we'll see yes it won't 100 percent be insane there's no way this card isn't amazing like it was when it was first printed yeah now rogue just has crazy draw too so [Music] so the death rattle rogue got i don't know if this will see play but when there was a time where the rogues would cheese this guy out with the anubisath dude buff the hand and then they would just burn you again down with stone toss boar part that seemingly continues to be popping back up but because boar is getting changed and all that good stuff do you see this card being significant i mean in the week period where it's brought back some dude like geminator's gonna definitely love the [ __ ] out of this i bet but like probably like superior david will be playing like this kind of stuff but uh i mean like i don't think it's gonna make a big difference in the week i don't think death rattle rogue in its epitome of degeneracy is gonna be brought back the only reason this deck was super good was because it was in gallicron shaman era where you basically had to deal with where you could develop this huge mid mid game finisher in your hand and that was like a way to non-interactively deal with galakron shaman and that was i don't know if it even works like it does because now there's decks in the meta that are like weapon rogue that don't even give a [ __ ] and they'll just join you down so i don't know exactly it's it's probably too slow right now like you said like in the middle of the game like yeah you have to do it like sometimes there is no middle of the game all right you're done you're done so but hey okay have fun with it while you can oh yeah yeah maybe it'll work out though because people will be playing all the old decks again right like galacrum rogue because that that's probably going to be good again with all of the rogue upgraded cards and everything back and it's og form yeah yeah velcro galactron og with the with the zero cost cards that you get i mean vorshak was about to say it uh zero cost card and you get zero cost cards they're really good and uh yeah this makes this makes a big difference this is another huge change just like just like bran or uh one of the cars we saw up there um really good i think gallicron rogue is going to be played and it's going to be boring to play against because that's how it always feels to play against but uh i know there's going to be a decent amount of highlander rogue as well especially with the dqa on earth that we'll get into a little bit later but yeah this is this is a significant change for sure we had to bring the archetype back for that week because people loved this deck when it was its thing yeah zero mana cards like the zero mana cards just make decks really really good playing a free cronks or a free dragon a dragon queen or a free whatever the hell it doesn't matter just the tempo you get from that is just insane uh we're gonna see more of those wands into galactrons yeah yeah they draw like nine zero mana cards yeah yeah absolutely fun [Laughter] edwin uh so he's going back to three but he is rotating so it's only gonna be a week of him being at three mana which is good but it's also bad because rogue is already really good right so he's going to be back in gallicron rogue he's going to be playing the the aggro weapon rogue he's just it's it'll be a week of edwin just being seen more yeah i mean we he just got changed like why why you got to do this to me welcome back eddie yeah it was it was a very short-lived nerf there short edwin vacation we had yeah i mean so many things are getting unnerved though so it's not too big of a deal but it will be very annoying again i mean it's already still annoying but uh yeah as edwin i don't even know if we have to really talk about it it's just obviously going to be good yeah this weapon was insane spirit claws and the uh the aggro burn shaman i mean it's a one man ideal nine uh yeah this isn't wild though i believe still right earth oh yeah yeah yeah it's a wild card but it's still like you know significant and it's still a really good card that is a big on nerf i literally have to it halved its cost yeah yeah all right the galactron cards this this was a really needed nerf too the five mana double invocation card with the two two ones that car was nuts yeah literally all of gallicron shaman is unnerfed and galcron shaman was one of the best decks ever uh on before before it got nerfed so kind of scary i don't think it's gonna be that good and i think the reason why is because you had shutter back when and shutter would replay all the gala stuff so you get a full board five armor two more eight eights a huge weapon you get your lackeys back you know what i mean like it had all of the early game bursts middle game burst galactron burst then shutter burst and by then your opponent had electra and zentimo yeah yeah those matter too yeah so i think with only buffing the the invoke cards i don't really see um the gallicron being other than it'll be like it'll be better but i don't i don't think it'll be a very strong deck by any means in comparison to what we're seeing done with rogue mage and you know the stuff we've seen so far i don't even think it's on the same page i agree yeah it also lost its primary draw package from back in the day which was the frog totems because you would chain like the invocations of frost into the earth and mites into the far sides into the hexes and that was kind of the way you drew all your cards and that's gone now so yeah spear to the frog yeah um i don't know it's just scary i i don't know if it's actually gonna be good but that was i'm getting a little ptsd from it vargas is still in the game to pair with the dragon's pack that is true uh it's nine mana nine mana is a lot of mana yeah nine mana for four five six taunts is still a good deal and a two six that repeats every spell you play that's probably worth it i suppose if you get there i mean how's that any different than mass resin priest and it hits vargoth i guess it is rather similar it just almost always threatens lethal though because of all the five fives you know that's true yeah yeah then there's been big priests or res priests the minions have definitely not five attack so yeah i think the the frost buffing blessing is cool the implication of frost because it'll stop rogues it'll be a good rogue stopper good warrior stopper for one minute good demon hunter yep yeah yeah you're very annoying mm-hmm like mana you can't do your turn correctly and i get to rush something into something and remove it i love the picture too it's i like the art of it a lot it's very cool dragon fang spirit i like the name this sounds way cooler it's a dragon's pack yeah um i don't know i think uh it could be good maybe we'll see questroman try to make its way back as well maybe maybe with uh with galcron i don't know um but dragonfact was a really good card when it was before it was changed so we'll see if it's good enough i guess um i mean taunts against the against like rogue that seems pretty good yeah and also freezing their face it seems like an anti-rogue kind of deck and rogue is very much in the meta but there's going to be a lot of other decks in the meta now with these with these uh unnerves here and uh one of those decks could be totem shaman yeah flametongue is back that's that's actually like really awesome in my opinion because when it got nerfed it was because even shaman was like decent and they were like doing a pre-emptive nerf back in the old days to make it so that even shaman wasn't the best deck when they nerfed other cards in like other decks in the witchwood days so this has been a long time coming yeah but yeah good for i don't know yeah you'd probably run it in that like i don't even know what you'd run this in now though i mean totally yeah i don't necessarily like it to be honest i would have i mean it might be too good but i would have liked this to be like an end of the turn effect and it gives another totem plus two attack i mean that's a whole that's a whole rework right there well i mean might as well they're reworking all kinds of stuff make it playable i don't know i just don't think this card is that great like i've played a decent amount of totem shaman and um i mean it's cool but i don't think i would play this i would rather just play like uh what is it trick totem just generate me random [ __ ] it's a warlock yeah interesting warlock is one change there yep that's the that's the translation um and uh yeah i mean it's cool it'll probably be played in gallicron warlock as like a one-off or or something but yeah not too big of a change yeah it's good your nerves are crazy though oh yeah let's go son of ruin that matters this nerf was so much more substantial than people thought it would be for galakron warrior and gallagher and warrior and wild so uh yeah because when you played galacron and you drew this it was like the most insane swing ever right you get armor you get to attack with your face draw a whole bunch of cards and then if you drew this thing you got seven something seven five rushes or something like that which was bonkers three seven five rushes or something like that nuts yeah i mean we've actually seen a little galax warrior being played kind of recently and it does pretty well actually it's just like a pretty consistent deck so um i honestly could see it being all right in the meta and like especially with like mercenary bloodsworn mercenary uh becoming a 3-3 again uh you're just getting a lot of stats so uh yeah deck seems good that's actually one uh that's actually a deck that i i kind of enjoy playing myself so it's pretty exciting this card was so good they had entire decks that were built around it like i don't know if you guys remember but there was like control warriors that basically had the galactron package in it and then they would run barista and the dragon helmet yeah and the dragon helper just to keep making like unlimited versions of these things so your opponent would have like a wave of these every single turn and that was overwhelming for a lot of decks so yep and if you wanted to be cheeky you could run vulgin and then copy all the copies of your dragons in your hand so oh yeah cause there's that one card that copies all the dragons the warrior legendary yeah yeah yeah then we have charge here uh i don't even know what this what what even is this on nerf here okay so it actually gives minions charge now for three so it basically allows a lot of crazy combos to be created now so any of the otk streamers out there saw this nerf and were probably like oh my god like i can do so many crazy things in warrior now yeah i mean this getting put on that i mean this just break this totally revitalizes the um the old worgen warrior 100 percent this with worgen inner rage and then the heroic with the mercenary i mean how much damage is that yeah so that would be three five eight eleven a le it's it would be an eleven two that has charge and wind fury so that's 44 damage for how much mana six seven and mana yeah it's insane yeah the entire otp is possible again what was that card called worgen mercenary raging yeah three minute three three uh enrage uh and when it rages it gets wind fury and two attack right or something like three attack three yeah that's not yeah i mean uh like the like a 10 minute combo really is kind of slow for wild though but not with ourselves if you are not what emperor tharson it turns it into like a five mana combo um that's true but you're you are going to need more time to assemble all these pieces probably but uh it is in warrior and warrior can stay alive for a long time so and draw a lot of cards so yeah i i am once again glad that i don't play wild let's go do you guys think someone will come up with a combo and standard with this that's more efficient than anything they have now and in rage warrior before everything's rotated actually like viable highly doubt it yeah i i think it will be why not yeah so someone will do something with it yeah i know it's gonna be more viable i think i think there will be a combo but it'll probably be i don't know do you play joy buzz it hits health screen and then you run sidekick and then you play hellscream and then you interrace it after it gets sidekicked and actually doesn't even need charge at that point how are you coming up with these so fast no yeah so you don't even need charge you just run joy buzz with hellscream then you just give it sidekick and then buff it up and then mercenary that's like 34 damage between two hellscreams anyway did you like plan this beforehand no no you just gotta think of the cards that exist i don't know this i mean that combo sucks dick i mean think about that you have to joy buzz your hell scream like what are the chances that happens but it could the name's here tomb digger big deal this was uh this was like one of the best cards in the game that was when next was out this time yeah max out boys next out max is out again so i don't know how good this will be honestly because this was back when there was only like literally the classic and the knacks out and then there wasn't like what we have today and in regards to like powerful minions in the early game aoe single target removal um so i think this is just a casual just you can play it on you can play a death rattle deck for some early game stuff but i don't think it's going to be that crazy yeah i mean well you're going to have it with leper gnome the unearthed leper gnomes so uh i don't know there's probably a lot of possibilities in wild to make this card very good um yeah undertaker was really good i mean going to standard cards like leper gnome leper gnome uh like we said before with the toxic reinforcements uh it will be quite toxic and uh it's just very strong yeah we we did not get an undead tag did we no no okay something to think about in the future guys having stuff that's like undead like this having its own category imagine like an undead warlock how cool that would be because we already have cards like ray's dead so yeah we should probably move a little uh faster through these we're almost at the hour mark we have like six minutes talking about leper gnome already already so yeah yeah keep going all right um knife juggler i it really probably not yeah it's better yeah it's just better arcane golem is just is interesting now because now it has charge again yeah and charge is uh is a hard uh mechanic to it's a hard it's a hard thing to find nowadays mm-hmm three-man and four-two charge it's a pretty good deal and shadow step is still in the game so you could see rogue doing some combos with it possibly yeah yeah uh the bird that's a big deal for me because now it gets brought back with rally and um it's definitely easier to play with so a miracle rally priest is going to be in my future which involves summoning this bird a million times creating a bunch of cards and filling my deck my opponent's deck birds should be fun yeah that'll be great it's actually really good for wild um i know we haven't been talking about that much because the highlander decks are like the most oppressive thing in wild right now so albatross going back down to three it will probably make a big impact because everyone will just run it again yeah yeah i mean it's a card that literally you'd play it has it has great stats for the mana cost and it's only upside regardless if you're even playing against a highlander deck it's still just a good card and that's what we were finding that's why they nerfed it it was just every every control deck played it some mid-range decks played it there was no reason not to play this card in your deck so agree hungry yin beast fell wing yes um yeah uh good in aggregate space hunter yeah yeah good night more face under support yep in my demon hunter decks next week oh yeah that'll be fun all right slavery in the salonite mine that's an interesting translation but sarah knight chain gang is uh yeah it's back to its original thing here what did they really change about it they made it so it summoned another saronite chain game instead of summoning a copy of it so shutter walk was broken oh great okay and if it the original got buffed the second one would not have the buff yes so this just impacts wild shutter walk yep yeah bone marrow is competitive ish yep it's back a lot a lot of a lot of good cards are back a lot like four cards from the past even though they're already in wild like they're already from the past or whatever but like now now they're becoming viable again now you can shuffle this back into your hand with that brewmaster card aliciana oh yeah dude i hated this card so much it's it's unnecessary like it's just completely unnecessary you in the old like warrior like control mirrors it was basically whoever could bounce this card so if it was at nine mana when they changed it if you had coin and brewmaster you won versus the other warrior regardless of anything now i ate mana i mean i again i don't know how often you're gonna have these you know control matchups back when dr boom was a thing that was a very popular deck and then you of course played her so it was a very common matchup and it was just it was miserable because then like you both have louisiana the game goes on 20 extra turns and then the other warriors somehow her uh arcvist would generate another arcvist when that was capable because discover could discover the card again granted they changed that but this card shouldn't exist it's one of my least favorite cards ever printed yeah i agree with that um it's honestly this is probably a big reason to why bat is like considering not playing as much wild because this is a huge odd warrior nerf because that deck really relies on this card being like in the end of it after they armor up a million times and now you can't run it in odd warrior so that's true yeah yeah some people love that with all these changes to the wild cards you do have to think about like the odd and even costs because that like even with like call to arms as well like now you can play that in even paladin and you can't run it in the odd paladin anymore so a lot of changes with with those slight kind of changes with the mana cost just uh something to think about but yeah not not really a fun card but you know it is a fun card dragon queen alex alexander this card which is it's probably okay to do this for in general now though too because the bird is so cheap and worth running you know so it's like yeah dragon queen alex straza can be insanely op again because the condition that you you get to work this is so easily played around because you just run birds yeah yeah dqa is is uh yeah zero mana dragons i mean we know rob loves his zero amount of cards and um at least you cannot get another dqa off of the dqa i mean you're still going to get it off of the discover one like if you get a yeah a dragon you're of course you're going to get if you get the as their wing or the yeah if you get the azir wing the four mana dude or you get the six mana dude you're gonna discover another one easy yeah of course um but yeah this is a big change for for dqa and uh i mean i'm a highlander player so i'll be playing i'm playing highlander decks you know it uh highlander mage probably is going to be my go-to so that's nice for me i mean people are going to be playing like decks are going to be very very strong with these on nerfs if they weren't strong enough already yeah they're going to be even stronger so gentlemen we have two options we can go to q a for one or two questions or we can finish up with our other segment which was about the master's tour payoff yes either one of those okay all right master story payouts we will not be doing q a today guys just because this has taken um a little bit of uh time so d money i'll let you uh i'll let you lay into it yeah so if you guys did not know masters tour it's actually going on right now master store iron forge um which is a big tournament uh here's the prize pool right here uh there was a reduction in the prize money or i think it might be the same uh the same amount overall like the prize pool but they did so it used to be that just for playing in the masters tour you got 800 um and now you you're not necessarily guaranteed any money you have to finish between 128th and 200th to get 500 um and then it exponentially goes up of course so uh a lot of people were very uh upset to see that they don't just get money for qualifying and that does make like i was very excited when i qualified for one master sword because that means that i do automatically get that money regardless if i get rng that of the tournament or not uh i do get that guaranteed money and that is that is a pretty big deal and like even the lowest thing is still cut by 300 um so kind of kind of sad a lot of people were sad about it but for me personally if i'm going to the tournament i am coming in with the mindset that there is i'm not coming in 200 200th place or below anyway you know like i'm trying to win this whole thing like i i don't even care about the money as much as like trying to like become a gm like now they have a point system for uh like the top finishers and you get points on top point earners get a spot in gm uh so yeah some changes to the money here and the master store is going on right now i believe they're they might be in like the semi-finals right now um but yeah that's what's going on this weekend yeah yeah we're gonna we're gonna for those of you gonna stick around we're gonna cast some uh some gm after this um but so to not counter argument ud money but to just point out so before they only had like 200 players playing total but now they have like 400 per masters tour so they've actually doubled the amount of people that are getting into the masters tour but then cutting off it halfway for you to make money so technically the players who are ending below 200 wouldn't have gotten there anyway with their old system so they're just giving you the opportunity now to be able to have more players play and if you place at the basically the point of which you would have been eligible to even enter in the prior system then you get paid out does that make sense uh yeah i don't know if it was exactly double but definitely more spots in there um i think it also i think some of it's also that uh like you'd it's also online now as opposed to like last year it was like kind of iffy because like they they were still doing uh not too long ago before the the covet of course there there was you you did have to pay for your own travel expenses and everything so that's why like giving 800 to each person made more sense because at least they they have to pay for their traveling fee uh yeah but now now it's like you guys just do it virtually through your computer so you don't have to pay you just you just play and um yeah i mean i i'm not really too mad about it it is kind of upsetting because it is so hard to qualify for these masters tournaments yeah um but uh yeah i just want to go over that that prizing there and also to say like i i have been streaming the uh the masters tour these past couple days and just like watching it and just talking with people in chat and it's been just it's been very nice to just like take a take a little step back from hearthstone like from playing it and um just be able to watch it and then like now after like watching the master story i feel like a lot of people feel the same kind of way like it gets you hyped about playing again because now you're like wow like i'm watching this high level hearthstone and like now i want to do some high-level hearthstone you know um so i'm pretty excited to just start playing again today uh it's been a couple days and that's like a long time for me so uh yeah it's been nice makes sense yeah i'm sure draco is feeling that as well maybe yeah absolutely man maybe not as excited but you yeah i know you do like watching i do yeah i watched it all yeah all right gentlemen i think that is going to wrap up the 50th 50th meta breakers pod 50th metabrake's podcast today if you happen to tune in later or you didn't catch the whole thing or would you like to have watched other ones we do have the meadowbrook's podcast youtube channel which we do keep all of the vods on to there if one of you have the links for that uh more than well here i got it there you go and it looks like d money yep thank you deku for posting dracco cats uh twitch and dmoney's twitch in there if you guys want to drop a follow if you haven't already those are our two hosts as always and uh again pleasure to have you guys thanks for having me and um i look forward to uh talking to you next week for the next podcast and hopefully we've got some more updates and uh some more new [ __ ] yeah hey have a great stream warshack it was a pleasure being on the warshack channel for another week in a row and uh you guys have an amazing day thanks for having me peace yeah screw that d money guys channel this is the this is the channel um thanks for having me uh it was good yeah really excited to talk about uh new stuff when we get it uh which actually reveals start in two days so yeah new cards is always fun new cards is always good fun that's true all right have a good sunday peace out later gator you

Channel: Metabreakers Hearthstone Podcast

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Keywords: Hearthstone, Madness at the Darkmoon Faire, Forged in the Barrens, Unnerfs, Nerfs, New meta, new cards, top tier decks, legend hearthstone, Dmoneygames, Dracocatt, Warshack, Thewarshack, Dmoney, Metabreakers, Metabreakers Podcast, Hearthstone Podcast

Id: Yb25K1DNSyU

Length: 62min 12sec (3732 seconds)

Published: Sun Mar 21 2021